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Mastodonio
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Joined October 2009
Mastodonio

Wishy22 wrote:

Any conclusion? However this is dumb already, even if he actually cheated on that map, posting here that he cheated on X map will only help him (if he is a cheater, I mean), since he can go and play it like 1000 times a day (offline) and then make a video, or say "peppy come spectate me and look how I am not cheating and get a high combo here with few tries". I seriously think there should be another sub-forum to report cheaters (one per thread) where only mods can read every topic (normal users should only be able to see their own posts).
I think you right. Moderators need to look on this situation and make their decision about this case..because we can't just always sit here and talk.
as for me,I am tired to look how mikhe is dodging from making video,because this situation is getting more suspicious..so,if he won't make it in 2 days,then we should ask moderators to ban him (nothing personal mikhe,but I don't like when someone tooks my places with fl cheats. and not only MY places).
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Wishy22 wrote:

Any conclusion? However this is dumb already, even if he actually cheated on that map, posting here that he cheated on X map will only help him (if he is a cheater, I mean), since he can go and play it like 1000 times a day (offline) and then make a video, or say "peppy come spectate me and look how I am not cheating and get a high combo here with few tries". I seriously think there should be another sub-forum to report cheaters (one per thread) where only mods can read every topic (normal users should only be able to see their own posts).
as i said time ago, NO ONE care this topic, maybe 1 time every 3 months someone read last 3 posts.. rofl

why are we posting ?
xsrsbsns
1,935 posts
Joined July 2010
xsrsbsns

Lunah wrote:

why are we posting ?
Why not? I mean, don't you just love all the drama in this thread..? ;)
Also I'm sure some of them actually bother, it's just that actions might not be taken immediately..
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

xsrsbsns wrote:

I mean, don't you just love all the drama in this thread..? ;)


Couldn't live without it XD
Ibuki Suika
1,254 posts
Joined March 2010
Ibuki Suika

Lunah wrote:

why are we posting ?
"If justice is not always an outcome, at least it is not dead yet." ----------- Julian Assange
Glass
1,522 posts
Joined January 2010
Glass

pieguy1372 wrote:

/me gets some popcorn and sits back
Wishy
2,972 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy

xsrsbsns wrote:

Lunah wrote:

why are we posting ?
Why not? I mean, don't you just love all the drama in this thread..? ;)
Also I'm sure some of them actually bother, it's just that actions might not be taken immediately..
Problem is that, no offense to any moderator, this thread is a really dumb idea. It requires a lot of work for moderators, plus by making this kind of stuff public you only generate flame wars, and make cheaters know they have been reported. By having a sub-forum for this, where normal users can only read their own threads, and mods can read all of them, you get organized denounces (is this the word?) since mods can just close/delete/move topics with solved issues, plus cheaters don't even get aware they're being accused of something, therefore it's way easier to get them.
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean

pieguy1372 wrote:

Uh oh here comes the drama train...

/me gets some popcorn and sits back
Hey, pass me some 8-)

I've never, and still don't, consider ol' mikky or any of CtB's other Flashlight experts CHEATERS... it's really not too hard to completely memorize a beatmap that has a clearly recognisable and logical pattern, especially in CtB when you only have to memorize the location of the beat on the horizontal plane. This is an absurd case against the guy, who has worked very hard to get to where he's at in the game.
Fabi
1,130 posts
Joined September 2009
Fabi


DERP, I see what you did there!
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
it's really not too hard to completely memorize a beatmap that has a clearly recognisable and logical pattern, especially in CtB when you only have to memorize the location of the beat on the horizontal plane. This is an absurd case against the guy, who has worked very hard to get to where he's at in the game.
Ah... Before saying that it's not too hard, first try yourself Dean any map with Approach Rate 9 or 10. Or just add Hardrock on Insane map with Flashlight. And try to pass 3 seconds of the song. X_X I think you know that Hardrock don't have any logical patterns, ESPECIALLY in ctb.

DERP, I see what you did there!
Even that will not help.
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean
Approach rate makes no difference if the map is COMPLETELY memorized... which like I said, isn't too hard. I checked mikhe's replays for two maps named in this topic ('NO, Thank You!' and 'Gravity') and neither score seems outside the realm of difficulty so that someone of mikhe's skill cannot Flashlight it within a reasonable amount of attempts - both follow patterns and repeat themselves often. Hard Rock would make things more difficult but it still keeps the structure of the map essentially the same...

Edit: sigh... just checked out 'Silver Dream.' Same thing applies. Especially if he had already FCed it with Hard Rock... I'm skeptical people can FC AR10 difficulty songs without at least partially memorizing the basic structure, and like he said, he got lucky once and scored a 300+ combo.

I'm not really in a position to try out the songs myself, as I am awful at this game, and on top of that loathe Flashlight. But I've been around long enough to know what is realistically achievable... and nothing mikhe's ever done has broken that. Get off the guy's back.
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Silver Flash
13 posts
Joined August 2010
Silver Flash
wait video ;)
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage

pieguy1372 wrote:

/me gets some popcorn and sits back

I just love this thread :)
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
ahahahha ctb

also this thread is not useful like 3,4 or 5 months ago i think
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
I think enough talking. Let's wait for video
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
So, 4th that i report player Kanopu


maybe he is not a cheater, but HE CHEATED in this map : IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita


so i made a video with slomotion , this is fucking autopress all 300 ,



I asked him many times to play this, but he always said me no, why?


that is not fair, who cheated should be banned/score resetted
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=2 #11

1 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

lolwut
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Lunah wrote:

So, 4th that i report player Kanopu


maybe he is not a cheater, but HE CHEATED in this map : IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita


so i made a video with slomotion , this is fucking autopress all 300 ,



I asked him many times to play this, but he always said me no, why?


that is not fair, who cheated should be banned/score resetted

Your repeated reporting does not accelerate the process any faster at all.
Diz
15 posts
Joined May 2010
Diz

pieguy1372 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=1147&m=2 #11

1 plays - IOSYS - Marisa wa Taihen na Mono wo Nusunde Ikimashita [Hard]

lolwut
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
Oh. Well never mind that, then.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

KRZY wrote:

Your repeated reporting does not accelerate the process any faster at all.
He got reported like march 2010 LOL, i guess so many time
lncognito
24 posts
Joined February 2010
lncognito
multi acc

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/532332

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/532331
TKiller
4,390 posts
Joined May 2009
TKiller
http://osu.ppy.sh/u/607321

Joined: Dec 16, 2010



ok :D
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
Kanopu is no cheater. <3

He's really accurate in general, so he probably did the four fingers on the dons technique REALLY DAMN WELL.
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

Lunah wrote:

KRZY wrote:

Your repeated reporting does not accelerate the process any faster at all.
He got reported like march 2010 LOL, i guess so many time

And what happened? Nothing.

What will happen in the future? Nothing.

Don't you think there is a reason nothing is happening about him? Is it really because mods are just not interested in kanopu?
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Hi

Jun Wakita - Shounen A

Difficulty another, first place, player EX7 Hidden + Flashlight

here screenshoots, he joined some days ago and he did it in 7 tries


SPOILER





EDIT :


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SilentWings_old
111 posts
Joined June 2009
SilentWings_old
I smell a smurf.
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
Lunah has lost first place on Jun Wakita - Shounen A [Another] (osu!)
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Oh, like 20 multiaccounts,
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old
Well 3 days ago mikhe said that he will put his video how he plays ctb here. Where is this video mikhe?
I will wait 5 hours and if he won't put it here then I think I will write to moderators.
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean

Kohzuki wrote:

Well 3 days ago mikhe said that he will put his video how he plays ctb here. Where is this video mikhe?
I will wait 5 hours and if he won't put it here then I think I will write to moderators.
Hey, chill. This is a score that is supposedly so insanely inhuman and beyond your comprehension of what is achievable, that you've accused mikhe, the CtB champion, of cheating.
You're lucky he even accepted this ridiculous request. Give him some time, he's not going to produce magic overnight. Hell, it's the middle of the week, he might even have school, work, a social life. Have patience.
Geez, fruit players complain about the most inane things...
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen

TKiller wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/607321

Joined: Dec 16, 2010



ok :D

dNextGen wrote:

totorin = ReimuSS
Mastodonio
1,118 posts
Joined October 2009
Mastodonio
o_O
this is getting really crazy
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old

Dean wrote:

Kohzuki wrote:

Well 3 days ago mikhe said that he will put his video how he plays ctb here. Where is this video mikhe?
I will wait 5 hours and if he won't put it here then I think I will write to moderators.
Hey, chill. This is a score that is supposedly so insanely inhuman and beyond your comprehension of what is achievable, that you've accused mikhe, the CtB champion, of cheating.
You're lucky he even accepted this ridiculous request. Give him some time, he's not going to produce magic overnight. Hell, it's the middle of the week, he might even have school, work, a social life. Have patience.
Geez, fruit players complain about the most inane things...
And I am working so what? As you see I try to find some free time to for this. He promised that he will make this video and not only I want to see this video. and what about his free time - Last Visit: Dec 23, 2010. I think he has it. I he doesn't play online,It doesn't mean that he is not here ^^
P.S. 4 hours left.
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean
I hate myself for continuing to respond, this us a ludicrous argument...

Kohzuki wrote:

And I am working so what? As you see I try to find some free time to for this. He promised that he will make this video and not only I want to see this video. and what about his free time - Last Visit: Dec 23, 2010. I think he has it. I he doesn't play online,It doesn't mean that he is not here ^^
P.S. 4 hours left.
I can understand you have your own commitments, and I never mentioned otherwise. However, mikhe has said that he will do this in his OWN time. He is also on record, albeit in a different topic, that the time ge can commit to osu! and CtB has been significantly reduced, as he is going through a busy period. It takes a very short amount of time to skin through a forum, and his lack of posting in both this thread (defending himself from bizarre accusations) and the Chinese CtB thread indicate he was in a hurry. On top of this, I have him on my osu! friends list, and have not seen him come online during his usual times (and I've been on A LOT recently). I admit the possibility that he may be playing offline, but that really would be an odd thing to do and is not like him.

Seriously, have some patience. Like I said in my previous post, miracles don't happen overnight. This tangent has gone on long enough, anyway - I'm going to bed and won't respond to any more posts. I hope for everyone's sake that he does provide a video and prove himself in your eyes, I really do. It just bamboozles me that you're pestering him like this.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Dean wrote:

However, mikhe has said that he will do this in his OWN time.
Yes, and be patient, now is xmass and i have things to do in my home, but i will post video as soon as i can, give me 1 week more or less.

Kohzuki wrote:

And I am working so what? As you see I try to find some free time to for this. He promised that he will make this video and not only I want to see this video. and what about his free time - Last Visit: Dec 23, 2010. I think he has it. I he doesn't play online,It doesn't mean that he is not here ^^
P.S. 4 hours left.
Firefox has me connect all the time, but i didnt connect osu or internet 2 days ago, busy with xmass, and yet I'm busy with xmass.
Give me, like i said, 1 week and i will post ^^
Before next year.
Mizu_banned
Mizu_banned
Hello. ;)
My report:

Name: lncognito http://osu.ppy.sh/u/276462
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75915&m=0 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50340&m=0 #2
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/74004 #5
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/68827 #2
Edit 15 hours ago http://osu.ppy.sh/b/72563 #1
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Osu_apple http://osu.ppy.sh/u/osu_apple
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64035 #3
^ omglol :D
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: lost_man http://osu.ppy.sh/u/152777
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64035 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/70812 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33488 #3
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Kensei_Akio http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Kensei_Akio
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52922&m=0 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/77564 #1
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Hakurei_Reimu http://osu.ppy.sh/u/230835
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/69300&m=0 #5
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15225 #3
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15818 #12
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: ratstar http://osu.ppy.sh/u/ratstar
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75915 #2
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/78965 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/72563&m=0 #3
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: kyuten http://osu.ppy.sh/u/27973
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/74032&m=0 #2
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Leyinter http://osu.ppy.sh/u/436121
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/72563 #2
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Gomo_Psivarh http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64555 #2 LESS 30 PLAYS?!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41140 #1 38 plays - Masayoshi Minoshima ft. nomico - Bad Apple!! [Normal] LOL?!
and many more.
Play Count: 2,271
Diagnosis: FLHACKER


Thank you~. (:
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Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
Do not forget to make a video on Jun - Silver Dream [Expert] with hr + fl. 300+ combo will be enough. So 2 video's. AR9 and AR10. And you're free :-)
Gomo Psivarh
584 posts
Joined December 2009
Gomo Psivarh

Mizu wrote:

Name: Gomo_Psivarh http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64555 #2 LESS 30 PLAYS?!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41140 #1 38 plays - Masayoshi Minoshima ft. nomico - Bad Apple!! [Normal] LOL?!
and many more.
Play Count: 2,271
Diagnosis: FLHACKER

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=41856
You can fc any map in 1 play :)
I use this method half a year ago. My net connection sucks so I have to play offline to avoid those damn disconnection lags. :(
lncognito
24 posts
Joined February 2010
lncognito

Mizu wrote:

Hello. ;)
My report:

Name: lncognito http://osu.ppy.sh/u/276462
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75915&m=0 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/50340&m=0 #2
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/74004 #5
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/68827 #2
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Osu_apple http://osu.ppy.sh/u/osu_apple
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64035 #3
^ omglol :D
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: lost_man http://osu.ppy.sh/u/152777
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64035 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/70812 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/33488 #3
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Kensei_Akio http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Kensei_Akio
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52922&m=0 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/77564 #1
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Hakurei_Reimu http://osu.ppy.sh/u/230835
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/69300&m=0 #5
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15225 #3
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/15818 #12
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: ratstar http://osu.ppy.sh/u/ratstar
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75915 #2
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/78965 #1
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/72563&m=0 #3
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: kyuten http://osu.ppy.sh/u/27973
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/74032&m=0 #2
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Leyinter http://osu.ppy.sh/u/436121
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/72563 #2
Diagnosis: SPINHACKER


Name: Gomo_Psivarh http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64555 #2 LESS 30 PLAYS?!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41140 #1 38 plays - Masayoshi Minoshima ft. nomico - Bad Apple!! [Normal] LOL?!
and many more.
Play Count: 2,271
Diagnosis: FLHACKER


Thank you~. (:
сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

lncognito wrote:

сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит
don't talk in russian here
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udncougfbrM

Kohzuki wrote:

I will wait 5 hours and if he won't put it here then I think I will write to moderators.
Kohzuki posted---------Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:57 pm (5 hours ago)
Mikhe posted-----------Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:55 pm

LOL, on time by 2 minutes!!
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

mikhe wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udncougfbrM
you're so sexy mikhe YEAHEYAH, now shut up whiners , he's the best
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Lunah wrote:

mikhe wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udncougfbrM
you're so sexy mikhe YEAHEYAH, now shut up whiners , he's the best
I missed but anyway, i did 300+ combo.


Now i use this thread to say something important.. I give up osu ^^
I think soon i will not enter again to this forum, finally i lost my interest to this game (thank people thought i was cheater, this is bcz of you..)
Maybe i will do a thread where i will say "bye" for my friends, but not now.. Xmass are now, and my familly need my, C U people.
Doraemon97
7 posts
Joined June 2009
Doraemon97
Mikhe is the best, no need to prove it again, and if not, look at the video that has made
HackSMW
45 posts
Joined November 2009
HackSMW
mikhe, i want to see your hand motion in that video. i think your hand motion is the most impotent thing to prove your record
because it's possible to run auto hack and you just only see the screen.

please capture it again.

and also

i wanna see your HI+HR video if possible.
flashlight is not easy to you because you did it a long time ago.
but HI+HR record is easy to you since it's your playing type now.

it is very hard to FC it and you did it.
for example http://osu.ppy.sh/b/44791

i don't think you did hack program at both. but i just wanna see your GOD play. d:
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Krzysiek
237 posts
Joined March 2010
Krzysiek
Thanks for the video. I was more into the finger work but I guess that other ppl are satisfied now ^^.
You could've posted it sooner after you made an annoucement you'll do it, keeping us waiting and dodging with weird issues like 2 camera isn't a good idea in general.

Well CtB is quite a boring game so I'm not surprised with your recent lack of interest. You've actually penetrated HR+Hidd diff pretty deep so there's nothing more to be challenged with.

Merry Xmass and stuff :->.
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old
Hahahaha ^^ Nice job,you remembered this map for 3 days. But however you didn't fc it. You told that you will make fc on this map and on Pixel Gravity. So don't be hurry with such comments like - 'mikhe you proved us your fl skill!'
So,I am still waiting..

P.S. mikhe,please tell me - what did you win with your lies? I know that you lie to me,I know that you lost a lot of time to make here 300 combo with fl..But why? Why can't you just say the truth? Are you so proud?
Hero Claw
38 posts
Joined March 2010
Hero Claw

Kohzuki wrote:

Hahahaha ^^ Nice job,you remembered this map for 3 days. But however you didn't fc it. You told that you will make fc on this map and on Pixel Gravity. So don't be hurry with such comments like - 'mikhe you proved us your fl skill!'
?
mikhe you proved us your fl skill!
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old

Hero Claw wrote:

Kohzuki wrote:

Hahahaha ^^ Nice job,you remembered this map for 3 days. But however you didn't fc it. You told that you will make fc on this map and on Pixel Gravity. So don't be hurry with such comments like - 'mikhe you proved us your fl skill!'
?
mikhe you proved us your fl skill!
haha and all his defenders are Spanish speakers ^^
well actualy I don't care. Okay I will wait untill the end of this year. Pixel Studio and HTT - fl fc videos.
I hope that some people will support me because it is hard to deal with this alone. I hope that some people inderstand me and believe me.
MrSake
29 posts
Joined February 2010
MrSake
I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre


Hahahaha. : )
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old

MrSake wrote:

I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/
Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
btw i don't know about catch the beat , but at the end the score shows an S .. how can that be if you see he missed in the song? .. well in osu standard if u miss just 1 time u get an A.


edit: or is that a B? lol >.<
Claudia_old
571 posts
Joined July 2010
Claudia_old

Salvage wrote:

btw i don't know about catch the beat , but at the end the score shows an S .. how can that be if you see he missed in the song? .. well in osu standard if u miss just 1 time u get an A.


edit: or is that a B? lol >.<
ctb calculates rank based on accuracy and not misses

definitely something that everybody should know...
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
Why's that? I don't play CtB , just osu standard , just saying .. seemed weird to me , mostly cuz i try to not get any A's at osu standard and i'm really aware of how if i miss i get em , thats y it seemed weird to me , and really i shouldn't know that if i don't play CtB at all.
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Kohzuki wrote:

Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???
"This whine doesn't look right" Thread


MrSake wrote:

I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/
about this i made a video too for youtube, and you'll not FC at first try maybe he did some retry and he cutted them


I srsly think that you're whining like hell. Just improve yourself and stop accusing skilled people in this thread. idiots.



EDIT :


Kohzuki wrote:

haha and all his defenders are Spanish speakers ^^
well actualy I don't care. Okay I will wait untill the end of this year. Pixel Studio and HTT - fl fc videos.
I hope that some people will support me because it is hard to deal with this alone. I hope that some people inderstand me and believe me.

Yes i'm spanish

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Froslass
Beatmap Nominator
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Froslass

Lunah wrote:

Kohzuki wrote:

Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???
"This whine doesn't look right" Thread


MrSake wrote:

I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/
about this i mad a video too for youtube, and you'll not FC at first try maybe he did some retry and he cutted them


I srsly think that you're whining like hell. Just improve yourself and stop accusing skilled people in this thread. idiots.
Exactly what I have to say.
This guy looks like a retard saying "OMG OMG!!! I AM RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG!!!! MIKHE IS A LIAR!! LIAR LIAR LIAR!!! CHETAER!!! U BELIEVE ME NOW??"
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
about this i mad a video too for youtube, and you'll not FC at first try maybe he did some retry and he cutted them
I srsly think that you're whining like hell. Just improve yourself and stop accusing skilled people in this thread. idiots.
Then why he cut the end of the video on 01:28? :-)

And where are his hands? :-)
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Louis Cyphre wrote:

And where are his hands? :-)
In my keyboard =.=
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Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Louis Cyphre wrote:

about this i mad a video too for youtube, and you'll not FC at first try maybe he did some retry and he cutted them
I srsly think that you're whining like hell. Just improve yourself and stop accusing skilled people in this thread. idiots.
Then why he cut the end of the video on 01:28? :-)
oh ask him for a 360° video by a satellite, rofl .. about mouse i guess he doesn't have a flying-mouse / keyboard, and you ?


Louis Cyphre wrote:

And where are his hands? :-)
He's fapping himself with your pic



EDIT : I think a live-stream video will resolve all
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
i think this video is not enough for improvement.
Seriously such camera movements are not real.

That's really sad...

He's fapping himself with your pic
Let's not make flame topic here.

EDIT : I think a live-stream video will resolve all
Agreed.
And now another map, JUN SILVER DREAM [Expert] with Hr+Fl.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Louis Cyphre wrote:

Agreed.
And now another map, JUN SILVER DREAM [Expert] with Hr+Fl.
And now shut up!! i'm not your slave, I'm so angry!!!
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
ok mikhe let's log osu, i'll explain you how make a live stream video, if you want :3
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Lunah wrote:

ok mikhe let's log osu, i'll explain you how make a live stream video, if you want :3
live stream video need a camera?? bcz i will not do any video where i will appear again, i have the right if i want to have a private live.
And sorry, i can't login on osu, i said busy and now i go again.. maybe people don't understand i have my own live and i can say "not play today" because i don't want/can't..
Claudia_old
571 posts
Joined July 2010
Claudia_old
wow some of you people are unbelieveable

fucking pigs, first you accuse him of hacking and demand solid proof which he didn't have to give, then he gives it and you bitch about how a shot looks edited blah blah, how he didn't fc it. [one person really]

quit being so damn jealous and shut your damn mouths already
like mikhe said, he ain't your slave and he doesn't have to make multiple vids just to prove to two people he doesn't hack
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
And now shut up!! i'm not your slave, I'm so angry!!!
Meh, getting angry because you don't want to improve yourself.
Well, ok. Good luck.

ITT: Everybody mad
Except me.
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LaCreme
54 posts
Joined August 2010
LaCreme
ITT: Everybody mad
Luna
2,354 posts
Joined November 2010
Luna
@mikhe: I don't think you cheated, but since you asked about the livestream/showing yourself issue, I suggest you do a livestream with picture in picture - a screencapturing program recoding osu! and a small inserted video of your camera filming just your hands. That way you wouldn't have to show yourself again, but the whiners would HAVE to accept that...
CXu
osu! Alumni
3,560 posts
Joined March 2009
CXu
You asked for:

Kohzuki wrote:

when you will play it please i want to see your face on video - i want to see how you look on the centar of your scren.
He delivered.
Oh, and his head is quite up to the top-left, which would mean that to make his face show in the video, he had to put the camera that way, and I can't see how he could've included keyboards too. You demanded his face to be shown, and now you bitch about this... really...

And so what if the beginning and end was cut? Is that the part where he played the map? nope.
Now, while there is still doubt about this, everyone is innocent until something else has been proven. I think people here got it wrong: He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING if you want to continue this. Thank you.

Just wanted to say that, lol.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

_Void_ wrote:

@mikhe: I don't think you cheated, but since you asked about the livestream/showing yourself issue, I suggest you do a livestream with picture in picture - a screencapturing program recoding osu! and a small inserted video of your camera filming just your hands. That way you wouldn't have to show yourself again, but the whiners would HAVE to accept that...
A livestream program record the screen only?? i didn't know this programs O_o.
And maybe i can do that you said, but seriously, not now.. serious busy.. Anyone understand me?!

CXu wrote:

You asked for:

Kohzuki wrote:

when you will play it please i want to see your face on video - i want to see how you look on the centar of your scren.
He delivered.
Oh, and his head is quite up to the top-left, which would mean that to make his face show in the video, he had to put the camera that way, and I can't see how he could've included keyboards too. You demanded his face to be shown, and now you bitch about this... really...

And so what if the beginning and end was cut? Is that the part where he played the map? nope.
Now, while there is still doubt about this, everyone is innocent until something else has been proven. I think people here got it wrong: He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING if you want to continue this. Thank you.

Just wanted to say that, lol.
Thanks to say that.
Shockwave
osu! Alumni
410 posts
Joined February 2010
Shockwave

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING
The fucking truth

mikhe, relax and enjoy your life. Don't be angry for this, it's just a stupid accusation.
Asenath
91 posts
Joined November 2009
Asenath

Shockwave wrote:

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING
The fucking truth

mikhe, relax and enjoy your life. Don't be angry for this, it's just a stupid accusation.
I agree, you did that silly video you were asked for, so if they want to keep saying you're cheating it's their problem.
IceBeam
osu! Alumni
1,958 posts
Joined December 2009
IceBeam
Woo..

What happened to this thread anyway?

Okay,I watched the video.
I know what mikhe could do.

But this discussion gone in the wrong way.

No one wants to kill mikhe just because he's a good opponent.
But no one wants to lose their 1-st places if someone is cheating.

Read the thread's title:
"This score doesn't look right" Thread
If someone thinks some score doesn't look right,we need to reach out the truth.
So why the hell do you pushing those people who're trying to reach out the truth?
Maybe we should start hating those who're sending reports in-game?

Just let mikhe prove his innocence.
Yeah,he mustn't do it,of course.
But if someone thinks he's dirty,you can't prove he isn't
Just can't.
Avatare
Avatare
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=46969&m=1
Taiko

1st place. he plays with no mods and apparently he thinks there are more than 246 notes on this song.

ban the f*cker
Claudia_old
571 posts
Joined July 2010
Claudia_old

Avatare wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=46969&m=1
Taiko

1st place. he plays with no mods and apparently he thinks there are more than 246 notes on this song.

ban the f*cker
easily could be a glitch, this has happened more than once before
so chill out kthx
Wishy
2,972 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
It's not like I believe mikhe is a cheater, but it's pretty much impossible to get proof of someone cheating on this game. I mean, how do you prove that he has FL hacks or anything? Only peppy can do that...
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,850 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY

KRZY wrote:

After viewing a few replays recommended by Louis Cyphre and actually trying a few maps, my stance changes. I demand a video from mikhe.

I demanded a video, and I got one. I am satisfied.

Merry christmas mikhe, sorry it had to end this way for you.
Avatare
Avatare
e-hooker , im all relaxed ...
Claudia_old
571 posts
Joined July 2010
Claudia_old

Avatare wrote:

e-hooker , im all relaxed ...
then why do you say crap like 'ban that fucker' when it's a glitch?
eru
2,885 posts
Joined November 2009
eru
good job mikhe, i know you could do it :3
and happy birthday~
youngdow
321 posts
Joined May 2009
youngdow

Shockwave wrote:

CXu wrote:

He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING
The fucking truth

mikhe, relax and enjoy your life. Don't be angry for this, it's just a stupid accusation.
I agree ^^

Anyway, good effort mikhe!
eddieee
253 posts
Joined February 2010
eddieee

CXu wrote:

You asked for:

Kohzuki wrote:

when you will play it please i want to see your face on video - i want to see how you look on the centar of your scren.
He delivered.
Oh, and his head is quite up to the top-left, which would mean that to make his face show in the video, he had to put the camera that way, and I can't see how he could've included keyboards too. You demanded his face to be shown, and now you bitch about this... really...

And so what if the beginning and end was cut? Is that the part where he played the map? nope.
Now, while there is still doubt about this, everyone is innocent until something else has been proven. I think people here got it wrong: He DO NOT NEED TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE, it's YOU THAT NEED TO PROVE HE'S CHEATING if you want to continue this. Thank you.

Just wanted to say that, lol.
gg cxu:3 Mikhe = #1 ctb SO stop cry
Miu Matsuoka
662 posts
Joined May 2008
Miu Matsuoka

lncognito wrote:

сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит
No one knows what you are talking about rofl
Plus, that spinning is really unusual, so I agree with Mizu.
That is 90% a spinner hack. >:(
hy1hy1hy
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
72 posts
Joined January 2010
hy1hy1hy
happy birthday and merry christmas, mikhe
no need to stick on this case
just enjoy your real life ^^
lncognito
24 posts
Joined February 2010
lncognito

cheukhin1985 wrote:

lncognito wrote:

сам говорил что бы я не парился о спинхакерах и тут такой столб текста, и ты кстати забыл Tenshu и Karaxu хватит их уже защищать,рас делаешь литс то хотябы внеси тех кто действительно читерит
No one knows what you are talking about rofl
Plus, that spinning is really unusual, so I agree with Mizu.
That is 90% a spinner hack. >:(
try useing a translator if you really want to know ,and if you think that the spins are unusual i can make a video as soon as i get a better camera ,the one i tryd ealyer was bad quality and you cant see shit on it.
Mizu_banned
Mizu_banned

cheukhin1985 wrote:

No one knows what you are talking about rofl
Plus, that spinning is really unusual, so I agree with Mizu.
That is 90% a spinner hack. >:(
Yeah, its really bad. :c

lncognito wrote:

try useing a translator if you really want to know ,and if you think that the spins are unusual i can make a video as soon as i get a better camera ,the one i tryd ealyer was bad quality and you cant see shit on it.
video?for that? I'm know that you spinhack. It is well visible. ;D
Mizu_banned
Mizu_banned

Gomo Psivarh wrote:

Mizu wrote:

Name: Gomo_Psivarh http://osu.ppy.sh/u/219057
Beatmaps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/64555 #2 LESS 30 PLAYS?!
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/41140 #1 38 plays - Masayoshi Minoshima ft. nomico - Bad Apple!! [Normal] LOL?!
and many more.
Play Count: 2,271
Diagnosis: FLHACKER

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=41856
You can fc any map in 1 play :)
I use this method half a year ago. My net connection sucks so I have to play offline to avoid those damn disconnection lags. :(
It's funny, really. ;)
ZHSteven
osu! Alumni
1,012 posts
Joined July 2009
ZHSteven

Kohzuki wrote:

MrSake wrote:

I hope I'm wrong, but the video seemed edited. First cut is at 0:04 where you can see how the camera angle moves a little when the song is about to start. Same happens also 1:28 at the end of the song. It seems like the playing part is from different video than the beginning and the ending.

:/
Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???
So what do you guys expect mikhe to do?
You already knows that a video cannot provide anything, then when mikhe done it , saying that it is not trustful???
What a great joke you have ever made...
joynama
Former osu!catch Champion: CWC#1
48 posts
Joined September 2009
joynama

Kohzuki wrote:

Thank you friend. I just watched it and you are right. it is a video montage. YOU ARE LIAR AS I SAID.
Now you believe me people???
Ridiculous..You have already ran into the dead end! What you need is to improve your skill, not to question the real pro player. Or its just your outlet after thousands of trying with only failure?!

I don't want to judge whether your conclusion is correct or not. I could only see who is doing his best through this issue, and who is just laughing at it.

To Louis: That's enough. FL is just memory, and if give mikhe enough time, he can do it, thats for sure. So we don't need to spend any more time on this issue.

Finally, Merry Christmas~ :)
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean
On top of what Steven said, I can't fathom how that video doesn't prove his innocence. The first edit was obviously a large cut between him setting up his camera to his first suitable playthrough of the beatmap. Unless you wished to view his several failed attempts, that is completely understandable. I don't know why he made the second cut, but it's still clearly the same playthrough - the graph on the results screen doesn't show up on replays, and it shows the same mods (FL + no video).

Whoever suggested it was Auto clearly wasn't thinking, Auto doesn't make misses. And to Kohzuki: no, he didn't full combo it, but he clearly showed that he has the potential to, that he is capable - which was the whole damn point of the video. Two misses within the first 60 or so beats means fuck all when he made a 360+ combo showcasing his skill. What's with the vendetta, did he run over your cat or something?

Louie: c'mon bro, I thought you were cooler than this. He made the video, showing he's fucking good at Flashlight. Another video is completely uneccessary, no matter if it would be on an AR10 map (which seriously makes no difference with Flashlight).

And I'd like to point out that KRZY is mad cool for knowing when to drop it.

I wish I had as much impact with words as people like Lunah, E-Hooker etc... :(
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
I wanna see some Spanish speaking, damn it.

The second cut could've just been another fast forward thing (though how three seconds affects upload time by much I don't know lol)

Anyways, http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=61450&m=1

As if it's not easy enough to tell when you look st the score, but the replay, oh lol, he must me some really pro mouse user.

(unsure if this has been mentioned already)

EDIT: WAIT, DAMN IT MY CAKE HAS BEEN BEATEN.

Oh well... uhh... I'll... find something..
Louis Cyphre
2,684 posts
Joined October 2009
Louis Cyphre
Well ok, what can i say. Say what you want,. I don't believe and that's my problem.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Ibuki Suika
1,254 posts
Joined March 2010
Ibuki Suika

Mizu wrote:

It's funny, really. ;)
you can PM this map #2

Gomo once in his demands and surveillance next once FL + HD, he can testify :roll:

Or let gomo make a video, like Sprosive that :|
Krzysiek
237 posts
Joined March 2010
Krzysiek
I think you all take different approaches looking into the video that makes you think you're each other wrong. As a neither Mikhe's friend or foe I can look at the issue without getting involved ;-).

Doing montage of the video is a big no no, no matter what you cut. Proof video is like the only kind of video that shouldn't be montaged because of its purpose (I hope you guys agree). Why? Read it and take it easy cos I'm not a hater nor troll (I think ppl from #osu think the same ^^).

Let's say I state that (play some Phoenix Wright music in the bg :->)
"What really happened is:
1. Mikhe started the game
2. Before pressing "skip" button mikhe paused game, jumped into the key macro program before the montaged 00:04 of video.
3. He started key macro program with some countdown needed to synchronize right with game, then went back to game and unpaused.
4. He resumed recording the video (the "famous" 00:04).
5. Program played throught the map doing some mistakes (well happens, I can't FC it every time with no mod and macro could've registered missed game).
6. He stopped the key macro program at 01:28 (did exactly the same pause->jump to window sequence) because it had glitches that'd make video even more confusing.
That's how it was."

It sure sounds ridiculous for ppl saying mikhe didn't cheat. But the problem is I find it hard to contradict any of those points (point 6 is for the lulz, but something like that could be possible - even thought it'd be really lame x-D) because:
-> getting in synch with countdown isn't hard for CtB players, because they have superior single timing reaction timing to osu! and taiko players. And when you mention CtB god... can't agree any more ^^.
-> there's no hand motion
-> there's no key strike/mouse operation sound
-> there's no start menu bar to show running app (even if there were one, app could've been written into tray icon and hidden)

I'm fine with video as it is, but it's completely understandable for other ppl to be not satisfied with it. That's my repeated opinion -> you shouldn't do montage of proof video no matter what.

And on the last note(s?). People, PLEASE refrain from flames just because you don't agree with each other. The only way to prove things is to provide data. Also telling who's being cool, who's being whiny is rude. It all comes to agree/disagree... come on, don't act like ur doing right now x_x.
Niva
Global Moderator
3,196 posts
Joined November 2009
Niva
Gomo Psivarh isn't a cheater >.<
Yesterday he chatted with me via in-game PM, and he said this:

21:45 <Gomo_Psivarh> : i always play maps offline :D
21:46 <Gomo_Psivarh> : so my play count is very low
21:46 <Nivalis> : i practice hard maps offline, and I only play online if I want to FC something/modding a map
21:46 <Nivalis> : good luck SS-ing no thank you xD
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : thx :D
21:47 <Gomo_Psivarh> : even i wanna submit my score i still play offline:D
21:48 <Gomo_Psivarh> : u play offline, and when u finish it, u go online immediately
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : the score will be uploaded, and count only 1 play count, no matter how many times you retried XD
21:49 <Nivalis> : yes :D
21:49 <Nivalis> : play offline, FC until last spinner, pause, turn on internet, unpause, submit score xD
21:49 <Gomo_Psivarh> : yeah XD

No wonder his playcount is very low :D
He is just a great FL player.
xsrsbsns
1,935 posts
Joined July 2010
xsrsbsns

Krzysiek wrote:

(Huge wall of text) - Excluding 1-6
Exactly. Kinda common sense for a proof video don't you think?

Oh, not that I care about the outcome. I play my own osu! and people play theirs.
The only loss I face here is not being able to see/show people some awesome ctb playing live.
Dean
145 posts
Joined November 2008
Dean
My main gripe with that and any other theories about how he cheated is that it's completely clutching at straws. Yes, the possibility exists, but it also exists for every single osu! player. The video shows within, say, a 99% possibility that he is clean, and that is good enough for me. As CXu said, it's the accusing side that need to prove that he is cheating, and there is not a single thread of evidence to suggest that.

I'm sorry if my words were inflammatory, I can assure you that it is not (and never is) my intention to make people angry. I just got a little worked up about the topic. I don't consider myself one of mikhe's closest friends, but I've seen him grow from a rankings-whore into the best Catch the Beat player in the world, and the idea of him cheating is absurd to me. Once again, my apologies.
Kohzuki_old
26 posts
Joined June 2009
Kohzuki_old
If all these people would be so smart like you Krzysiek then they understand it. some of you said that I am whining and someone even called me 'bitch'. and what about you guys? you are so smart that you can say what you want? you just say that mikhe is not a cheater and everybodyl believe it? but when I make some strong arguments nobody believes me,because some of you are such idiots that you can only talk crap about other people. and what about your arguments? I quote - 'mikhe is a god and he plays a long time so he can't cheat'. is that your argument? or 'mikhe made a video so don't cry now'. he made it yeah? with the help of video montage he made it and you say that 'his camera suddenly moved on 0:04 when he started to play and on 1:28 when he finished to play' His camera is alive that it can move? such people are disgusting for me,because you can't prove your words. but I can. so what now? mikhe is afc as he said,and now of course he can't make another live video with 'not walking camera',yeah? well he doesn't want to play because he is scared that someone will ask him another video. wise choice to go afc.
I don't want to continue this discussion anymore because of some crap talking idiots. but one day when you will understand that I said truth - I will be waiting for apologies. because I just wanted to clear this game from such proud crafty people. so if someone still believes me then he can PM me. That is all.
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe

Kohzuki wrote:

mikhe is afc as he said,and now of course he can't make another live video with 'not walking camera',yeah? well he doesn't want to play because he is scared that someone will ask him another video. wise choice to go afc.
I will Afk bcz i think real life is really MORE IMPORTANT than a game, and after holidays i will have some exams (bcz i'm in university) so i have to study hard. Scary not the word, the word is indignant.
But anyway, i really sorry if someone said you some insults or others, we have to take the respect, and i don't like to say "bad words" to someone. Sorry again for that.

Well, definitly, you argue some things, and you posted the possibility that i cheated, but i didn't see any prove (and you know that fact). I did your video, and now i request you close this (like you said) and happy bcz we are in Xmass.

Mikhe out

P.S: Thank people for say me "happy birthday"!! ^^ thanks people :D
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