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montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Due to the nature of USB, it either works or it doesn't - there is no extra latency from a long USB cable (technically 30 nanoseconds, but that's about 100,000 times shorter than you can notice).

Is the audio coming through HDMI too? Some TVs can have atrocious input lag, and if it's handling the audio too it could explain it. If it's the audio, you may have to run a 3.5mm cable along with the rest :(

If that fails, try and look at the lights on the converter - see if they're also lagging. It could be the controller isn't sensitive enough and only registers a hit some time after you actually make it. I think this is unlikely as even bad controllers register hits on time, you just have to hit them really hard.

Good luck!
AsakuraVN
2 posts
Joined July 2009
AsakuraVN
Nvm, after configuring the universal offset in Osu to -60, the hitsound is on point now :D

The only problem left is modding my tatacon for better sensitivity...
xXxDERPFACExXx
3 posts
Joined July 2016
xXxDERPFACExXx
Adapter came in today, works great!
10/10 would recommend

ps ty for mentos
JuanWarrior
11 posts
Joined January 2015
JuanWarrior
Hi. Can I pay you now but do not ship it to me now?

I'm going to another country for at least 1 month. But I really want your USB. :p
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

JuanWarrior wrote:

Hi. Can I pay you now but do not ship it to me now?

I'm going to another country for at least 1 month. But I really want your USB. :p
No worries! Just leave a note on the payment info to let me know when to ship it out.
JuanWarrior
11 posts
Joined January 2015
JuanWarrior

montymintypie wrote:

JuanWarrior wrote:

Hi. Can I pay you now but do not ship it to me now?

I'm going to another country for at least 1 month. But I really want your USB. :p
No worries! Just leave a note on the payment info to let me know when to ship it out.
Hello, I already purchase it. I'm not leaving after all lmao.

You can ship it.

Thanks
Replicax_old
2 posts
Joined August 2015
Replicax_old
要去哪裡買? 我是Taiwan 人
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

Replicax wrote:

要去哪裡買? 我是Taiwan 人
在这里买。我全球范围内提供！

Hope that came out alright, Google Translate and all...
Replicax_old
2 posts
Joined August 2015
Replicax_old

montymintypie wrote:

Replicax wrote:

要去哪裡買? 我是Taiwan 人
在这里买。我全球范围内提供！

Hope that came out alright, Google Translate and all...
ok I know. Thank you
Tediorej
4 posts
Joined February 2014
Tediorej
Aye I think this is a sweet Idea. I am kindo late to the Taiko segment of Osu, However my sister recently got this great interest in it and would like to play with the drum set. I was wondering what I should do about it because after a ton of research it seems that the default wii drum is bad. Do I absolutely have to Mod the drum or can I buy one that works good right away? After I figure what I will do about the drum, I would love to buy one of these converters to fix the lag problem!

Thanks!
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
I would definitely say the default wii drum 100% needs modding. That being said, there are 2 other options:

Hori drum. Practically arcade spec. $270. Somewhat overkill..

$30 Chinese knockoff drum. Feels funny to play on since they use real buttons instead of capacitive sensors, but without mods it plays better than the official drum without mods.

If you mod the official drum it's the best value for money, but if you don't want to mod anything I think the knockoff wins.
Tediorej
4 posts
Joined February 2014
Tediorej
Yeeees I see, well I will more than likely be going for the mod-route then. I see the official Taiko Drum for like $50 bucks on amazon, so I figure it will be okay. I look forward to trying everything out!

Thank you for the quick response omg.
hiandbye
54 posts
Joined April 2015
hiandbye
What do you mean by modding the official drum? What are its shortcomings? Is there a guide anywhere on what you can do to make it better?
Edit: Actually, I just saw that GMMAwesome posted one just 2 pages ago: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... tcount=117

Also, thank you for all your hard work on making and distributing this converter!
Wise Guys
3 posts
Joined October 2014
Wise Guys
If I buy a Wii tatacon drum or wii U tatacon are they both compatible with osu? Also if I use a wii tatacon u to usb converter do I bypass owning a wii console or wii U console entirely?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
I can't remember off the top of my head but I'm pretty sure the Wii U drums also connect via the Nunchuck connector. If this is the case, it will work fine with my converter! You don't need a wii at all :)
captainblund
4 posts
Joined October 2014
captainblund
how long would it take to ship to Korea?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

captainblund wrote:

how long would it take to ship to Korea?
Never sent one there! It could be as fast as 1 week, Korea is quite close :)
captainblund
4 posts
Joined October 2014
captainblund
You are in Japan?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Nope, I am based in Australia. Closer than America ;)
captainblund
4 posts
Joined October 2014
captainblund
Is it possible for shipping to Korea to be cheaper than normal?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

captainblund wrote:

Is it possible for shipping to Korea to be cheaper than normal?
Because the converter is small, I get away with pretending it's a "Large letter". Because of this, cost saving of sending to Korea is only 60 cents :( PM me if you're still interested :)
captainblund
4 posts
Joined October 2014
captainblund
I have sent a Pm. :)
Canboi
241 posts
Joined June 2011
Canboi
Is it just a converter?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

fanhoho wrote:

Is it just a converter?
I'm not sure I understand the question :| It does not come with a drum, if that's what you're asking?
Canboi
241 posts
Joined June 2011
Canboi

montymintypie wrote:

fanhoho wrote:

Is it just a converter?
I'm not sure I understand the question :| It does not come with a drum, if that's what you're asking?
Actually you answered what I was trying to ask :P
I wonder if there is a set of drum in it.

So... it is just a converter...

Nevermind... I checked out a set of tatacon online
Everything are so expensive...
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

fanhoho wrote:

Everything are so expensive...
Yes, the drums are not cheap :( I am currently prototyping a "basic" version of the converter. It may be $15 instead of $25. I'm not sure if I can make it work. Shall see...
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

montymintypie wrote:

I am currently prototyping a "basic" version of the converter. It may be $15 instead of $25. I'm not sure if I can make it work. Shall see...
My prototypes arrived - due to differences in the USB and Nunchuck connector, they do not work. Oh well :\
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
Joined August 2011
karterfreak
Having remembered this is a thing, I'm highly considering picking one of these up once I have the funds to afford getting a wii drum. Possibly after the holidays depending on circumstances. Would be something great to play around with when I'm not up for really hard songs.
Jism_old
1 post
Joined November 2015
Jism_old
Will I need a wii controller for this?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

Jism wrote:

Will I need a wii controller for this?
Email notifications froze again, sorry for the delay.

No Wii controller required! The controller plugs directly into the converter as though it were a wiimote.
Rey-Don
3 posts
Joined April 2014
Rey-Don
Nice! I sent my money through paypal, hoping that this converter will be pretty good.Thanks!
Rey-Don
3 posts
Joined April 2014
Rey-Don
The adapter came in the mail in about 3 weeks, and there isn't any noticeable delay from it. The only thing I need to do is fix my tatacon's rim, the hits are not very accurate and I have to hit pretty hard for it to register. Overall I'd give the adapter a 10/10. My drum however gets a 3/10.
SugoiReborn
78 posts
Joined June 2011
SugoiReborn
Wow, that seems great!
I'll be ordering one since I was given a knock off Taiko remote, but I actually want to try and replicate your work as a side project.
Thing is, I know next to nothing about Arduino and the likes.
How do I go about making my own Tatacon to USB converter?
I'm prepared to learn whatever it takes.
Pendual
35 posts
Joined April 2013
Pendual
is this tatacon only? would this work on the wii fight stick?
karterfreak
osu! Alumni
724 posts
Joined August 2011
karterfreak
Safe assumption that this doesn't work for the wii fight stick. May want to look into a different converter for that.
Stalzak
5 posts
Joined March 2015
Stalzak
I just hoped on the taiko train, this seems really nice ~ Any updates on the refill ?

And since nobody ever asked ima ask here : can it work without installing Chrome - and ever better, can it be customised without using the Chrome app ? My toaster laptop's burning at 60°C without anything launched, so I'm not too keen on installing new softwares on top of that.
Aasheda_
140 posts
Joined December 2015
Aasheda_
is dis legit ??
cuz imma buy it when i sack someone's money
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
If I had a dollar for every missed 'new message' notification from the forums, I'd have... at least 6 dollars.

SugoiReborn wrote:

How do I go about making my own Tatacon to USB converter?
Arduino Leonardo (for keyboard emulation), nunchuck adapter for arduino ($1 off ebay) and communicate via I2C to the nunchuck. You can even use my code, just as long as you hook it up to the right pins.

Stalzak wrote:

I just hoped on the taiko train, this seems really nice ~ Any updates on the refill ?

And since nobody ever asked ima ask here : can it work without installing Chrome - and ever better, can it be customised without using the Chrome app ? My toaster laptop's burning at 60°C without anything launched, so I'm not too keen on installing new softwares on top of that.
Refill coming ~soon~, waiting for my PCB fab to ship. You do need the Chrome app to configure things, but can uninstall it once you do, since it remembers the settings.

Omenasai wrote:

is dis legit ??
110$% legit, I've almost sold 100!

Oh, and sorry to crush the colourful people, but the next batch will be black only (unless you 3D print your own case). I've had ongoing issues with getting parcels out on time, and I don't like being that guy. Making them all black lets me pre-print everything for massive gains in shipment speed.
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Far longer than promised, but back in stock! And $5 discount for the next month.
Rhythm1996
2 posts
Joined May 2017
Rhythm1996
USB adapter came in today. Works great! I have a question more so about osu. Is there any way to lower the sensitivity of drum hits? Because I feel like I have to hit really hard on the drum for it to register hits.
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
If it's an official drum, use this mod. If it's a chinese clone, you just have to hit harder :\
Rhythm1996
2 posts
Joined May 2017
Rhythm1996

montymintypie wrote:

If it's an official drum, use this mod. If it's a chinese clone, you just have to hit harder :\
Yes, it's an official drum. Thanks for the link! Definitely going to look into this.
_pulseR
6 posts
Joined August 2017
_pulseR
Does all knockoff tatacon were made the same design? the official drum is very pricey :(

thinking of buying a knockoff since there is no way i can afford the official ones..

oh btw, is the discount still available? :3 /cheapskate
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

_pulseR wrote:

Does all knockoff tatacon were made the same design? the official drum is very pricey :(

thinking of buying a knockoff since there is no way i can afford the official ones..

oh btw, is the discount still available? :3 /cheapskate

2 months late, I'm afraid. Knockoff is all the same (as far as I can tell) - design is simple and playable, you just have to hit don a little hard. And noisy. But it works well!
_pulseR
6 posts
Joined August 2017
_pulseR

montymintypie wrote:

2 months late, I'm afraid. Knockoff is all the same (as far as I can tell) - design is simple and playable, you just have to hit don a little hard. And noisy. But it works well!

aww that sucks :( very new to taiko like a few days old lol. got bored with mania and decided to try something new. but I have always been fascinated with taiko drums! (the arcade)

i see. well guess i will only get to play during the day then if i were to get it

oh btw, may i know which type of knockoff drum do you own?

is it this kind
http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Taiko-No-Tat ... xyn~pR29U5

or this one?
http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Drum-Set-for ... Swax5YxrV3
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

_pulseR wrote:

oh btw, may i know which type of knockoff drum do you own?
The second one
_pulseR
6 posts
Joined August 2017
_pulseR

montymintypie wrote:

The second one
got it. btw any idea how long will it take to courier the converter to malaysia? :D
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

_pulseR wrote:

got it. btw any idea how long will it take to courier the converter to malaysia? :D
if you're lucky, 1.5 weeks. If not, 2-3.
_pulseR
6 posts
Joined August 2017
_pulseR

montymintypie wrote:

if you're lucky, 1.5 weeks. If not, 2-3.
got it. thanks!
giopde1ste
2 posts
Joined January 2017
giopde1ste
Are they gonna be in stock again? When I tried to buy one it said it was out of stock
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

giopde1ste wrote:

Are they gonna be in stock again? When I tried to buy one it said it was out of stock
Oof, very sorry about not updating the website - more stock in 2 weeks (hopefully less)
Valky
21 posts
Joined July 2012
Valky
Any news with stock?
giopde1ste
2 posts
Joined January 2017
giopde1ste
If there is more delay that's no problem but I would like to know if you are still alive :(
TREEToTREET
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montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

Valky wrote:

Any news with stock?

giopde1ste wrote:

If there is more delay that's no problem but I would like to know if you are still alive :(

TREEToTREET wrote:

What about srock? And how many does it cost at all if its possible to send this in russia?
Sincere apologies, I've been overly busy in the leadup to Xmas - I should have posted an update sooner.

I've got all the parts, just need to print cases + solder things together. I've been having some Z-axis issues where the USB connector doesn't fit through the final print, so I've expanded tolerances and will reprint soon. I expect to have stock shortly after Christmas, maybe only a few days after boxing day.

-mon

PS: Russia is same as everywhere else, $25 delivered.
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Alright - we're finally back. Thanks again for waiting!
Valky
21 posts
Joined July 2012
Valky
Thank you, just placed my order!
TFD500
65 posts
Joined October 2015
TFD500

montymintypie wrote:

Still waiting for the parcel, but while I wait, I got hard numbers on latency.

Using my scope, I had 1 probe connected to a piezo mic, and another to the LED of the converter. This LED updates at 1KHz, the same rate as the USB update rate.

SPOILER

I then smacked the drum 50 times, and recorded the delay between the moment the piezo started to respond, and when the converter registered a hit. An example measurement:


After 50 hits, here are the results:
Average: 1.802ms
Median: 1.77ms
Std Deviation: 0.44454517
Min: 1.1ms
Max: 2.78ms

Rounding the max value up, I can confidently say that there is an absolute worst case 3ms lag. And average lag of 1.8ms. This is imperceptible. Lagfree = confirmed!
Well, I hope that this actually works :) Anyway, where can I buy dis thing :D
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

SMG3 wrote:

Well, I hope that this actually works :) Anyway, where can I buy dis thing :D
On my website: https://mon.im/tatacon/
OzzyOzrock
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Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
Never would I have thought I'd known of Mon years before getting into bemani...
GrimmyGumDrops
9 posts
Joined January 2016
GrimmyGumDrops
i am so interested in this and taiko is something i am starting to really get addicted to so i am going to buy a tatacon converter tomorrow.

so just plug it in and get the TaTaConfig on crome web store and turn on the osu! settings for it and its all set for a beating?

i hope i am lucky and they both arrive on the same day.
KonaHaruhi
4 posts
Joined September 2012
KonaHaruhi
im interested to order !

but first let me check where to buy the tatacon first...
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

GrimmyGumDrops wrote:

so just plug it in and get the TaTaConfig on crome web store and turn on the osu! settings for it and its all set for a beating?



if you're happy with the default keyboard bindings, you don't even need the config app at all! Plug and play :)
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DeletedUser_12972504
Phew.. 7 months since anyone said anything- luckily I do have a specific reason!

Does anyone know if MontyMintypie still sell these or is it completely inactive? I tried contacting the sellers email(just to ask a few questions) and PM on this community but no response, so I figure I try asking here on the forum where maybe anyone might know? xD (Worth a short!)
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie

FruitySoleil wrote:

mon is awfully quiet


Have replied to your mail - still here, still selling, still shipping!
Animaitor
5 posts
Joined June 2016
Animaitor
Hey montymintypie! Are you still selling the USB adapters? I wrote you a few weeks ago to sales@mon.im and got no resply. I would like to purchase 2 of your awesome adapters if possible...
raiyoku
10 posts
Joined April 2014
raiyoku
Hi,
I wanted to buy a Tatacon to USB converter but Paypal told me you don't have any left. So I wanted to ask if you had any left somewhere or if you would produce more of them sometimes.
Animaitor
5 posts
Joined June 2016
Animaitor
Nice, it looks like I'm not alone. Hopefully montymintypie comes back the the forum.
ScorpionGaming
5 posts
Joined April 2018
ScorpionGaming
Yo, it may be a stupid question, but can the Drum be directly connected to the adapter, or do I need a Wiimote too?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Directly connected, no wiimote required.

I'm going to produce more in the coming months, if you still want one after such a long delay...
ScorpionGaming
5 posts
Joined April 2018
ScorpionGaming
Hmm gonna buy this when it comes back to stock.

Also, Will I be able to somehow bind the keys with the TaTaConfig extension to get it to work on a PS4?
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montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
I think you might need an adapter to convert keyboard -> PS4. PS4 needs a specific controller layout if I recall correctly, that I don't supply.
ScorpionGaming
5 posts
Joined April 2018
ScorpionGaming
Ok, got it. Thanks for the extremely fast replies!

EDIT : Hey sorry for asking so much, but can You map the TaTaConfig settings to mouse keys? If Yes i would not need a Keyboard to PS4 adapter.
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montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
It's keyboard keys, but you can map them yourself.
ScorpionGaming
5 posts
Joined April 2018
ScorpionGaming

montymintypie wrote:

It's keyboard keys, but you can map them yourself.
That means that I can't map mouse buttons here?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
No, not mouse buttons.
ScorpionGaming
5 posts
Joined April 2018
ScorpionGaming

montymintypie wrote:

No, not mouse buttons.
Welp rip

Still a great product tho
Animaitor
5 posts
Joined June 2016
Animaitor
Holly crap! He's alive!!! (^_^)y I'm still interested. What should I do to order 2 adapters?
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
Simply wait - I have a new design I need to verify and Switch support I need to code for (the main blocker). I promised this over a year ago but I just haven't been able to dedicate the time after work to make it happen :|
Animaitor
5 posts
Joined June 2016
Animaitor
Great! What's the reason behind the design revision if you don't mind asking? I'm just interested on the Wii (Wii-U) adapters as those tatacon are the ones I own. Please update us once you get more in stock.
montymintypie
85 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
montymintypie
The connectors are difficult to get a hold of and fairly expensive, so I'm redesigning with PCB based connectors and a second connector since I have room.
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui
Ooo I’m still alive btw lol. I’m excited to see the revision! Might buy it just to test it out after it’s done haha
Animaitor
5 posts
Joined June 2016
Animaitor
Wow, it's been a whole year since the last message. Hope eveyone is well and healthy.


montymintypie, how is the new PCB revision going? I can see your shop still let me buy your adapters. Do you have any in stock?
Korrui
75 posts
Joined April 2014
Korrui

Animaitor wrote:

Wow, it's been a whole year since the last message. Hope eveyone is well and healthy.


montymintypie, how is the new PCB revision going? I can see your shop still let me buy your adapters. Do you have any in stock?
Last I checked with him he's really behind and works been taking up a lot of his time. He's still getting him out but the orders have gotten to a point where he needs more people to get them out but doesn't have the funds. This was about a 2 months ago though so I could DM him if he doesn't see this first.
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