18:36 Voli: also
18:36 Voli: i think pro is harder to read than rhythm master
18:37 Voli: cuz of the ar choice xdd
18:37 Arphimigon: I dont
18:38 Arphimigon: Both the top diffs have quite low AR, but if it were up to me I'd rather reduce the top one than increase pro
18:38 Voli: ya
18:38 Voli: idk the last part is really cluttered with 8
18:38 Voli: on pro
18:38 Voli: imo
18:38 Voli: if you could increase it by 0,5 already that would alleviate the problem
18:38 Voli: 4 me
18:39 Arphimigon: I find that when people play the maps, they adjust to the AR by the end of it
18:39 Arphimigon: 8.5 doesnt really help though
18:39 Arphimigon: The stacks putting everything off weirdly is still there
18:39 Arphimigon: And that's the main reading weirdness
18:41 Voli: hmm
18:41 Voli: maybe you should work with nc's there
18:41 Voli: like 04:02:104 (6) -
18:41 Voli: 04:03:878 (6) -
18:41 Arphimigon: The diffname is PRO
18:41 Arphimigon: u must be PRO READER
18:41 *Arphimigon nyabs
18:42 Arphimigon: ye I could work with NCs on those
18:42 Voli: ya i mean i just want to get it ranked
18:43 Voli: y is everything 55 volume
18:43 Arphimigon: y not
18:43 Voli: o nvm
18:43 Voli: not everything
18:44 Arphimigon: Did cute NCs
18:44 Voli: but
18:44 Voli: in
18:44 *Voli is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015267 Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle) [Rookie]]
18:44 Voli: everything is 5
18:44 Voli: 55
18:44 Voli: tho i can kinda get behind it ...
18:44 Arphimigon: I'm not sure if it was intentional or not
18:45 Voli: i mean the intensity IS kinda the same
18:45 Arphimigon: Time to JUDGE
18:45 Arphimigon: wh no it does increase
18:45 Voli: wh no
18:45 Voli: oh
18:45 Voli: u mean intensity
18:45 Arphimigon: ye
18:45 Voli: yeah i guess
18:45 Voli: but loudness
18:45 Voli: well
18:45 Voli: yeah i'd make the end louder for sure
18:45 Arphimigon: Loudness doesnt ye
18:45 Voli: see if thats the case for other diffs too
18:45 Arphimigon: hmm
18:46 Arphimigon: only from 04:01:218 - onwards though
18:46 Arphimigon: (the riiiight end)
18:47 Voli: yea
18:47 Voli: i generally agree with not making it fluctuate too much
18:47 Voli: there isnt really any point
18:47 Voli: where the song just ''stops'' its pace
18:48 Arphimigon: Made all the ends 65% from that point on
18:48 Arphimigon: ezpz
18:48 Arphimigon: Too much higher will be distracting
18:49 Arphimigon: 04:15:405 (1) - "UNRANKABRUUUUU!!!!"
18:49 Voli: where
18:49 Arphimigon: on pro/master
18:49 Voli: why o.o
18:49 Voli: i think thats fine
18:49 Arphimigon: same
18:50 Voli: 04:09:198 (2,3,4,5) -
18:50 *Voli is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1015266 Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle) [Rhythm Master]]
18:50 Arphimigon: ez arguements against it though going from "3x SV all of a sudden" to "different reading type on the last object"
18:50 Voli: what are these snaps
18:50 Voli: wat
18:50 Arphimigon: But iz cute
18:50 Arphimigon: 1/8 CUTE
18:50 Voli: but
18:50 Voli: its not 1/8
18:50 Voli: wh
18:51 Arphimigon: Yes they are
18:51 Arphimigon: which part
18:51 Voli: 04:09:198 (2,3) - these are unsnapped
18:51 Voli: i tihnk
18:51 Voli:
https://voli.s-ul.eu/8lxuto80.png18:51 Arphimigon: o
18:51 Arphimigon: that part
18:51 Arphimigon: Ya I can agree on that
18:51 Voli: theres some other unsnapped stuff too
18:51 Voli: aimod
18:51 Voli: xd
18:51 Arphimigon: The first two feel like 1/8
18:52 Voli: ya but they arent actually snapped
18:52 Voli: thats weird
18:52 Arphimigon: Oh AImod you silly
18:52 Voli: cuz aimod doesnt register them as unsnapped either
18:52 Voli: wait.
18:52 Arphimigon: to 1/8
18:52 Arphimigon: They are snapped
18:52 Voli: WTF
18:52 Voli: NO
18:52 Voli: THEYRE 1/16
18:52 Voli: LOOOOOOOOOL
18:52 Arphimigon: One is afaik
18:52 Arphimigon: oh yeah
18:53 Arphimigon: 1/16
18:53 Arphimigon: I remember now
18:53 Voli: cant this just be 1/4
18:53 Voli: xD
18:53 Voli: or no
18:53 Voli: i think it should be 1/6
18:53 Arphimigon: nope
18:53 Arphimigon: Now that I listen to it more
18:53 Arphimigon: It's even worse
18:54 Voli: im p sure its 1/6
18:54 Arphimigon: Is my OFFSET OFF OR IS THIS 1/32
18:54 Arphimigon: AAA
18:54 Voli: if i listen at 75% it lines up
18:54 Voli: perfectly
18:54 Voli: at 1/6
18:54 Arphimigon: Sounds quite clearly off for me on the last one
18:55 Voli: i'd simplify it to 1/6 anyways
18:55 Voli: theres no way you'd hear the difference
18:55 Voli: but for playing it's simpler
18:55 Arphimigon:
https://puu.sh/y65YI/f482dd99d2.png18:55 Arphimigon: Seems simple enough
18:56 Voli: what snap is that
18:56 Arphimigon: But tbh
18:56 Arphimigon: The most accurate rhythm
18:56 Arphimigon: To me is:
18:56 Arphimigon:
https://puu.sh/y660y/e9cacd7a3e.png 1/16 snaps
18:56 Voli: theres a zoom button
18:56 Voli: on the timeline
18:56 Arphimigon: And those are perfectly consistent timings between them
18:56 Voli: ;\
18:56 Arphimigon: yes ik
18:57 Arphimigon: u want EXPANDDDD?
18:57 Arphimigon: (lemme get())
18:57 Arphimigon: [https://puu.sh/y663a/a490d83c5f.png EXPAND!]
18:58 Voli: kj lemme replicate that
18:58 Arphimigon: The first sound actually comes out late
18:58 Arphimigon: Which I'm perfectly fine with making 1/16 later cuz RHYTHM MASTER GIT PRO
18:58 Voli: yeah it sounds accurate
18:59 Arphimigon: Just gotta add some inherits so it stops sounding like a garbage mess
18:59 Voli: 04:14:519 (1,1,1,1) -
19:00 Voli: imo you shouldnt make the spacing here that big baka
19:00 Voli: its a decreasing sound
19:00 Voli: and you switch from spacing every 2 notes to every single one
19:00 Voli: thats way hardr
19:00 Arphimigon: It ends quite THEMATICALLY
19:01 Arphimigon: I could be all super logical
19:01 Arphimigon: And make em decreasing and all that
19:01 Arphimigon: But this is a thematic heavy map which is about getting consistently harder
19:01 Arphimigon: Would be silly for it to end off being easier~
19:01 Arphimigon: esp when its so
19:01 Arphimigon: INTENSE
19:02 Voli:
https://voli.s-ul.eu/RdklxB8y.png19:02 Voli: ya cuz
19:02 Voli: this is so EZ?
19:02 Voli: its still harder than the doubles
19:03 Voli: and harder than any 1/4 spacin u used
19:03 Arphimigon: That's just
19:03 Arphimigon: What I did but nerfed
19:04 Voli: ya but without the overlap
19:04 Voli: full
19:04 Arphimigon: Overlap was cute ;;
19:04 Voli: ok
19:04 Voli: lets keep it
19:04 Arphimigon: nyeh
19:04 Arphimigon: It was a bit bullshitty for the end
19:04 Arphimigon:
https://puu.sh/y66p7/9e2ec0b8e9.png19:05 Voli: ye
19:05 Voli: happi
19:05 Arphimigon: (thats the most left, second most left, most right, second most right)
19:05 Arphimigon: So there's a jump in there
19:06 Voli: oh its like
19:06 Voli: cris cross?
19:06 Arphimigon: 1, 2, 4, 3
19:06 Voli: o
19:06 Arphimigon: Counting from left to right
19:06 Voli: 00:35:055 (1) - dont you wanna make these WAAAHs stand out more
19:06 Voli: sv wise
19:07 Voli: just curiou
19:07 Arphimigon: Not this early in the map no
19:07 Voli: ok
19:07 Arphimigon: It's pretty basic
19:07 Arphimigon: Just normal SV, smol jumps, ez stuff
19:08 Voli: 01:39:342 (1) -
19:08 Voli: maybe a direction change+other shape?
19:09 Voli: sound seems pretty outstanding
19:09 Voli: just like 01:14:736 (2) -
19:09 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/938824919:10 Arphimigon: works here
19:10 Voli: just make sure the end doesnt fully overlap
19:10 Voli: cuz that is unrankable ;;
19:10 Arphimigon: Only partial
19:10 Voli: k
19:10 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/938825119:10 Voli: tosti
19:10 Arphimigon: u want map to be ranked
19:10 Arphimigon: I just want to make something fun
19:10 Arphimigon: wew
19:10 Voli: well
19:11 Voli: i want it to be ranked
19:11 Voli: as close as can be to its original state
19:11 Arphimigon: original state meh ADD MORE COOL STUFFS
19:11 Voli: YA
19:11 Arphimigon: I wonder if I can add in
19:11 Arphimigon: a tosti slider
19:12 Arphimigon: Well I guess this is a square tosti
19:12 Arphimigon: And the other was a tringl tosti
19:12 Arphimigon: Both are valid tosti
19:12 Voli: i mean you could technically make a square tosti
19:12 Voli: 02:27:114 (6) -
19:12 Voli: i think you should make this note not overlap still
19:12 Voli: cuz
19:12 Voli: the overlaps r like
19:12 Voli: 02:29:775 (3,4) -
19:12 Voli: introduced here
19:12 Voli: and that one is at the end of a measure
19:13 Arphimigon: You're like
19:13 Arphimigon: 02:08:493 (3,4) -
19:13 Arphimigon: 20 seconds late
19:13 Voli: ya but
19:13 Voli: trhe rest of that pattern doesnt have overLASPS
19:13 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9388277 ez fix
19:13 Voli: ye
19:13 Voli: thats what i just wanted to screenshot
19:14 Voli: LOL
19:14 Voli: k good
19:14 Voli: cripes
19:14 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9388284 moved to middle for distance sake
19:15 Voli: what was up with the unsnapped shit
19:15 Voli: that aimod sais
19:15 Voli: said
19:15 Arphimigon: ya it was osu! putting my notes like a few ms off their snaps
19:15 Arphimigon: all fix
19:16 Arphimigon: AIMod is happy with all diffs
19:16 Arphimigon: Cute
19:17 Voli: cute
19:17 Voli: 03:26:636 (1) - why are thse ncs
19:17 Arphimigon: so that
19:17 Arphimigon: 03:26:857 (1) - could start on a 1
19:17 Voli: ya
19:17 Voli: thats cute
19:18 Arphimigon: and be like symettrical kinda with the other side
19:18 Voli: 03:45:478 (1,1) - angery
19:19 Arphimigon: o
19:19 Arphimigon: How do ppl
19:19 Arphimigon: SEE THESE THINGS
19:19 Arphimigon: Fixd
19:19 Arphimigon: 03:52:794 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - o das fast u know
19:20 Arphimigon: o yus I wanna nerf 04:05:983 (9,10) - and 04:07:756 (9,10) -
19:21 Voli: o ye
19:21 Arphimigon: (I did nerfs to thos)
19:21 Voli: k
19:21 Voli: were done with this diff
19:21 Voli: from my part, at least
19:22 Arphimigon: Cute
19:22 Arphimigon: I did some minor things, mostly inherit points and nerfs
19:23 Arphimigon: No weird shit tho
19:24 Voli: ok
19:24 Arphimigon: On rookie I removed 1 note
19:25 Arphimigon: Otherwise the rest of the set is the same
19:32 Voli: idk
19:32 Voli: i dont see the need to overly analyze the lower diffs
19:32 Voli: they seem fine as they are
19:32 Arphimigon: Nice
19:32 Voli: only thing
19:32 Voli: imo is the last part on pro
19:33 Arphimigon: 04:13:743 (1,3,4,5,1,3,4,5,1,3,4,5,1,3,1) -
19:33 Voli: can you updatre
19:33 Arphimigon: this part?
19:33 Voli: o
19:33 Voli: no
19:33 Voli: not that
19:33 Voli: the part b4 that
19:33 Arphimigon: Update is a GOING!
19:34 Arphimigon: Boom
19:34 Arphimigon: a doneness is the update
19:37 Voli: 04:10:307 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) -
19:37 Voli: its this part
19:37 Voli: thats bothering me
19:37 Voli: the reading is
19:37 Voli: suddenly hard af there
19:37 Arphimigon: o no
19:37 Arphimigon: reading problems
19:37 Arphimigon: The things I never see anymore
19:38 Voli: ok
19:38 Arphimigon: I'm guessing if
19:38 Arphimigon: I unstack the ends of
19:38 Arphimigon: 4 and 5
19:38 Arphimigon: It'll seem pretty kk
19:38 Voli: yeah
19:38 Voli: thatll help
19:39 Arphimigon: Doing a quicko update
19:42 Arphimigon: (did the quicko update, forgot to say)
19:43 Voli: o
19:43 Voli: quicko update
19:43 Arphimigon: For the advanced stack
19:43 Arphimigon: ez pz
19:43 Voli: po*
19:43 Arphimigon: wh
19:43 Arphimigon: u said
19:43 Arphimigon: ADVANCD
19:43 Arphimigon: o
19:43 Arphimigon: yes PRO
19:43 Voli: LOL
19:44 Voli: r u dumm
19:44 Voli: 04:13:188 (4) -
19:44 Arphimigon: ye Im double dum
19:44 Voli: they arent fIX
19:44 Arphimigon: cuz I fixed them in pro
19:44 Arphimigon: and thought I didnt
19:44 Voli: no
19:44 Voli: u fixed them
19:44 Voli: wait
19:44 Voli: wtf did u fix
19:44 Arphimigon: 04:10:528 (4) -
19:44 Voli: oh
19:44 Voli: i thought unstack 04:13:188 (4,5) -
19:44 Arphimigon: hnHNGNH
19:45 Arphimigon: I think thos r fine
19:45 Arphimigon: hn
19:45 Voli: i know smth u can do
19:45 Voli: stack them on 04:12:302 (4) - instead
19:45 Voli: and 04:12:523 (5) -
19:46 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/938852419:46 Arphimigon: cute new symettry
19:46 Voli: o
19:46 Voli: seems cute
19:46 Voli: ok
19:46 Arphimigon: nvrmnd theres a HORRIBLE OVERLAP
19:46 Voli: taht part is super overlappy in general
19:46 Arphimigon: its
19:46 Arphimigon: SUPER UGLY
19:46 Arphimigon: It has to be if I notice it
19:47 Voli: LOL
19:47 Arphimigon:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9388538 had to do this instead
19:47 Arphimigon: sadnesses
19:48 Voli: why is the tick rate 4
19:48 Voli: wtf
19:48 Voli: im confud
19:49 Voli: also rookie and adv use a lighter grey combo color than the top diffs
19:49 Arphimigon: wh
19:49 Voli: intentional or wat
19:49 Arphimigon: Not intentional
19:49 Arphimigon: Also
19:49 Arphimigon: tick rate 4 cuz bpm
19:49 Arphimigon: super low
19:49 Voli: 02:20:797 (7) -
19:49 *Voli is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1130379 Noisia - Groundhog (Beat Juggle) [Pro]]
19:49 Voli: unsnapped
19:49 Arphimigon: It they need to be high enough to notice the SV changes possibly on the SV change parts
19:49 Voli: drag it a bit
19:49 Arphimigon: ya
19:50 Arphimigon: k time to combo colour fix
19:50 Voli: 00:38:602 (1) - on top diff is unsnapped too apparently
19:50 Voli: tho id ont rly get it
19:50 Arphimigon: Fixed
19:51 Arphimigon: I wonder what is causing all these SUDDEN UNSNAPS
19:51 Voli: that was all tho
19:51 Arphimigon: fixd combo colorzzz
19:52 Voli: fix widescreen storyboard etc settings too
19:52 Voli: consiostent
19:52 Arphimigon: Well that literally makes no difference but kk
19:52 Voli: ya lol
19:52 Voli: just for formalities
19:52 Arphimigon: o yus
19:52 Arphimigon: remove countdowns
19:53 Arphimigon: k formalities COMPLETE
19:53 Voli: kk
19:53 Voli: update
19:53 Arphimigon: yusyus updating is a happen o7
19:54 Arphimigon: Updates did an happens