EGOIST - Eiyuu Unmei no Uta (TV Edit) · forum

yf_bmp

Elite Storyboarder II / Elite Mapper

Joined December 2011

yf_bmp 2017-09-29T03:48:33+00:00

AJamez wrote:
noob modder passing through
requested from my Q

[yf]
00:52:402 (6) - intended to not add nc or intended
01:25:369 - are the notes here intended not to overlap with each other or yes intended
01:30:537 (5) - nc here mayb bad maybe

Xoul wrote:
From Mistaken/Scarlet Mod Queue

yf's Insane
Don't know if its just me but it feels like the overlapping sliders in the kiai or really hard to read. Editor wise and playing wise.

01:25:453 (1,3) - This last little slider section is what I meant in my first post. Sure it is viably playable but with the given time I dont fits to have something that jumps this much.um, sure keep this

I don't really know what much to say about this sorry. It makes confused cause I'd expect to see this style of a map in more of a wub/dubstep map. It just feels as if the kiai is a real overwhelming part of this map compared to how everything else is laid out.

-Space- wrote:
yf's Insane

00:06:131 (2,1) - Ehhhh~ spacing here. I can't understand it, the music sounds the same but you've cut spacing a lot for the pattern. Maybe try and keep the consistency, your call. keep. 00:04:097 (1) - tune here is higher than 00:06:809 (1) - so,

00:14:267 (1) - Wave nazi incoming but your first part of the wave is quite a bit ways smaller than the second one! >.> ummmmmmm. u know it isn't that necessary to fix so

00:15:623 (1) - ^

Amazing slider designs, they look very intuitive and unique, like to see more of these!

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TitleUnicode:英雄 運命の詩
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"c s 7 ♥"

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-09-29T20:36:57+00:00

-Space- wrote:
Irre's Extra

00:47:487 (1) - Trainsqueak! This is advanced tier, maybe too advanced not sure, be careful here >.< Yeah, but I feel like it compliments the song really well here.

01:31:555 (1,1,1) - I'm going to ruin your day and play with with ez mod. haha don't you dare

Nice G I M M I C K, nah it works well and I like the kiai sliders, make a challenge to follow with the high CS Thanks, I hoped to achieve an effect which wasn't achieved so far yet. Glad you liked them!

handsome wrote:
irre
01:36:131 (1) - extend repeat oki

thanks

Irreversible wrote:
00:16:301 (1) - Will be redone done
00:29:860 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ done
01:03:758 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - ^ done
01:17:318 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ^ no fix

gotta let it look like i got some mods at least XD

http://puu.sh/xM2CY/cf5dbaef88.txt

Voli

811 posts

Joined April 2013

Voli 2017-09-29T22:58:58+00:00

irre asked me to mod his diff so

00:12:911 (1,2,3) - spacing feels so large for this soft hihat sound, smth like this would feel much more appropriate so the next section doesnt feel underwhelming as a result: https://voli.s-ul.eu/VuDAaahq.png
00:14:945 (3) - the placement is rather weird, you have to make a jump from 00:14:775 (2) - but then move back and forth again. how about smth like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/kCpM1AGo.png
00:16:301 (1,1) - the shapes are cool, but i feel the rhythm is a bit lacking because you used two extended sliders after each other so the strong sound stands out less imo, perhaps a rhythm like this would work better https://voli.s-ul.eu/abcfgXuJ.png
00:17:487 (1) - move it closer to 00:16:979 (1) - (maybe blanket?) it doesnt need that spacing and this way 00:17:657 (2,3) - will be separated in a clearer manner. also i think you should remove the nc from this and add it to 00:17:657 (2) - instead
00:25:114 (1,2,3) - consider lowering the spacing on these a bit as the second one has a lower pitch compared to 00:24:436 (1,2,3) - (same goes for other instances). I really like how you did it here 00:33:928 (1,2,1,2) - but im kinda missing it on the other patterns
01:02:911 (4) - place this note somewhere else so that spacing emphasis is on 01:03:080 (1) - , it doesnt rly stand out right now
01:03:758 - maybe its just me but i feel it'd be so cool to emphasize the choir sounds in the background with SV (so increasing at 01:03:758 - , 01:04:267 (4) - and 01:04:775 (5) - )
01:35:623 (1) - hello who made this beautiful slider im still not seeing ''cute af heart by voli'' in the desc LOLjk

Shunao

1,906 posts

Joined February 2016

Shunao 2017-10-01T10:29:45+00:00

rip ppy

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-10-01T13:04:59+00:00

Voli wrote:
irre asked me to mod his diff so

00:12:911 (1,2,3) - spacing feels so large for this soft hihat sound, smth like this would feel much more appropriate so the next section doesnt feel underwhelming as a result: https://voli.s-ul.eu/VuDAaahq.png yeahh that's a good point, fixed
00:14:945 (3) - the placement is rather weird, you have to make a jump from 00:14:775 (2) - but then move back and forth again. how about smth like this? https://voli.s-ul.eu/kCpM1AGo.png i feel like the movement is justified due to her vocals.. hmm I'll prefer keeping it rn
00:16:301 (1,1) - the shapes are cool, but i feel the rhythm is a bit lacking because you used two extended sliders after each other so the strong sound stands out less imo, perhaps a rhythm like this would work better https://voli.s-ul.eu/abcfgXuJ.png added rhythm
00:17:487 (1) - move it closer to 00:16:979 (1) - (maybe blanket?) it doesnt need that spacing and this way 00:17:657 (2,3) - will be separated in a clearer manner. also i think you should remove the nc from this and add it to 00:17:657 (2) - instead this pattern has changed already D:
00:25:114 (1,2,3) - consider lowering the spacing on these a bit as the second one has a lower pitch compared to 00:24:436 (1,2,3) - (same goes for other instances). I really like how you did it here 00:33:928 (1,2,1,2) - but im kinda missing it on the other patterns Really? I feel the first pitch is more stressed hence why the bigger spacing, but maybe I'm hearing it differently. A question though, could you elaborate on the similarity between teh first pattern and the second one? I don't understand it haha
01:02:911 (4) - place this note somewhere else so that spacing emphasis is on 01:03:080 (1) - , it doesnt rly stand out right now good!
01:03:758 - maybe its just me but i feel it'd be so cool to emphasize the choir sounds in the background with SV (so increasing at 01:03:758 - , 01:04:267 (4) - and 01:04:775 (5) - ) sounds interesting, explain that to me in pm too because idk what u mean by choir sounds XD (i tried something so let me know if you meant that loool)
01:35:623 (1) - hello who made this beautiful slider im still not seeing ''cute af heart by voli'' in the desc LOLjk

irre

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Thanks to Shiro too, who also gave her input.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-10-02T20:43:43+00:00

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emilia

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emilia 2017-10-05T13:30:00+00:00

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winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-10-05T22:46:31+00:00

i don't like being gay http://puu.sh/xQXNP/76cb3dc049.osu

mindmaster107

710 posts

Joined August 2016

mindmaster107 2017-10-06T07:23:45+00:00

Here from handsome's queue.

pls get ~~ranked~~ loved xd.

I couldn't play Master, or black another diff, so I didn't mod them.

[Neilperrry's Gravity]
This is so unbelievably under weighted. 5.48 star with spaced streams, HW sliders, and slider gimmicks.

00:18:589 (1,2,3) - From everything in the map, this is one of the only things I have a qualm with. Consider in the mess of high SV, and no warning beforehand how someone is meant to read this? While playing I assumed it was a 1/8 slider, due to what surrounded it. I would ask you to maybe use something to signal that this is a 1/4 slider.

01:06:470 (2) - I am confused why this is spaced so close. Spacing it properly would make much more sense, but I assume there is a reason behind it I don't see.

01:17:148 (2,3,4) - Why is this not like 01:15:030 (2,3,4,5) ? They sound to me pretty similar.

01:18:335 (2) - Should the tail really be the one covering this vocal?

[Irre's Extra]
Nice. Real nice.

00:21:216 (1,1,1,1) - 00:23:758 (1,1,1) - Why is this NC spammed again? I would rid of this.

00:28:504 (1,2,1,2) - This needs to be NC spammed for the true SV feeling.

00:31:894 (1,2) - This sounds noticeably less intense than 00:32:233 (1,2) .
I would map 00:31:216 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) with right, left, left ,right, if left and right were the stacked jumps.

00:47:487 (1) - Have some kind of loop at the beginning of this slider, so I don't break combo every time I play your map XD.

00:58:335 (1,1,1,1) - This was unusually hard to play. I don't believe this pattern is justified in it's reading difficulty. You can keep the chaotic overlaps, but maybe fan the circles out, so it is clear where to click if one plays with a non-transparent skin. I would however ditch this for a similar pattern to 00:59:691 (1,2,3) .

01:31:555 (1,1,1,1) - cs7 <3 . One day in the future you would write a whole sentence with HW style sliders.

[Sing's Extra]
Also nice.

00:47:487 (1) - The slider coming before it ( 00:47:148 (1) ) suggested to me that the map was going to magically spike here. I broke really hard on this slider.

Even the editor broke on the slider.

[Slayed's Extreme]
Thanks for your continued breaking of pp system beyond the grave

00:12:911 (1,1) - I would go for some even weirder shapes if you are not representing the vocals with SV.

00:21:640 (3,1) - I dunno how, but please consider spacing 1 further away to emphasize the downbeat.

00:33:250 (1,2) - I would reduce this jump's size by alot, as it is the one where the violin drops unusually in intensity.

00:52:911 (1) - This needs to be spaced higher to emphasize the drum.

01:08:504 (1) - Why is the vocal being ignored?

[winber's expert]
This is one of the best maps imo, with only 1 thing I could find with my horrible modding skills.

01:35:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This doesn't feel intense enough as a closing to a 6.3 star technical map.

Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2017-10-07T04:18:18+00:00

REPLY:

bluelioness:

00:34:719 (1,1,1,1) - Cancel NC here? The NC's indicate to the player that this section will b special in terms of rhythm (1/3)

mindmaster107

00:47:487 (1) - The slider coming before it ( 00:47:148 (1) ) suggested to me that the map was going to magically spike here. I broke really hard on this slider. Highered the SV's and made slider art

also redid some stuff so it can look nicer

new .osu: https://puu.sh/xS4bX/ef620fdac0.osu

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2017-10-08T00:17:51+00:00

MaridiuS wrote:
Cheesecake's Novice
00:22:233 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - these all look weird probably because of stacking, for example look how 00:22:233 (2,3) - this has 1.14x spacing, less overlapped circles, 00:22:402 (3) - while this has the next circle on 0.88x. To tend to the auto-stack placement, I suggest placing the sliders manually to fit a distance of 1.00x ok i resnapped
00:23:589 (6) - this is also 0.93x. With this many angle switches, and auto-stack positioning, here it is fairly noticeable, in this whole pattern.
00:32:402 - since this is a strong violin hit, right before a NC, I suggest making use of it to be consistent with 00:26:979 (5,5) - these. good idea
00:43:250 (2,3,1,2) - Seems to me like you prolonged the maps stay on the right side of the grid, from 00:40:708 - 00:46:809 - which is bout 6 seconds. 00:43:250 (2,3) - This would be the ideal slider to switch the patterns over to the left side a bit, feels more satisfying imo, working with a bigger and filling up more of the screen. i dont really see any point honestly sorry
01:10:369 (3) - 0.92x for some reason. oops
01:30:030 (4,5) - 0.88x seems random. Should be kept consistent on 1.00x
01:32:233 (4) - this should be NCed like 01:33:589 (1) - , downbeat and consistency. but i use 2 measure ncs in the whole map

thanks

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Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-10-09T19:11:12+00:00

mindmaster107 wrote:
[Irre's Extra]
Nice. Real nice.

00:21:216 (1,1,1,1) - 00:23:758 (1,1,1) - Why is this NC spammed again? I would rid of this.

00:28:504 (1,2,1,2) - This needs to be NC spammed for the true SV feeling.

00:31:894 (1,2) - This sounds noticeably less intense than 00:32:233 (1,2) .
I would map 00:31:216 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) with right, left, left ,right, if left and right were the stacked jumps. all done

00:47:487 (1) - Have some kind of loop at the beginning of this slider, so I don't break combo every time I play your map XD. haha well,
I think you won't miss anymore

00:58:335 (1,1,1,1) - This was unusually hard to play. I don't believe this pattern is justified in it's reading difficulty. You can keep the chaotic overlaps, but maybe fan the circles out, so it is clear where to click if one plays with a non-transparent skin. I would however ditch this for a similar pattern to 00:59:691 (1,2,3) . You just have to click 4 times, that's not a biggie

01:31:555 (1,1,1,1) - cs7 <3 . One day in the future you would write a whole sentence with HW style sliders. <3

http://puu.sh/xU1Lf/3b504c4cef.txt

handsome could you fix the colorhaxing i think it broke

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

NeilPerry 2017-10-10T03:57:41+00:00

mindmaster107 wrote:
[Neilperrry's Gravity]
This is so unbelievably under weighted. 5.48 star with spaced streams, HW sliders, and slider gimmicks.

00:18:589 (1,2,3) - From everything in the map, this is one of the only things I have a qualm with. Consider in the mess of high SV, and no warning beforehand how someone is meant to read this? While playing I assumed it was a 1/8 slider, due to what surrounded it. I would ask you to maybe use something to signal that this is a 1/4 slider.

01:06:470 (2) - I am confused why this is spaced so close. Spacing it properly would make much more sense, but I assume there is a reason behind it I don't see. 2 reasons. firstly i need to stop movements, second, it should be visual consistence between 01:04:775 (1,2) - 01:05:792 (1,2) - them.
nvm that rythm changed

01:17:148 (2,3,4) - Why is this not like 01:15:030 (2,3,4,5) ? They sound to me pretty similar. lol very different music expression in your timelines

01:18:335 (2) - Should the tail really be the one covering this vocal? ya, it's fine

no reply - fixed

Thanks for mod!

http://puu.sh/xUnd1/7ccec4788e.osu

hehe

1,962 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

hehe 2017-10-11T12:20:01+00:00

DeviousPanda wrote:
master
00:34:606 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - this timing is quite hard to read as a stack because of the 1/4 triple stack right before it ok

01:08:504 (1) - why 1/16? doesnt hurt anybody

01:17:318 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - waaaaayyyy to much disagree

01:35:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - what disagree

hard
this looks good so i'm just gonna nitpick a small thing or two

01:19:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard to read might change if broup up more

Hope this helps!
plz dont flame me too hard for being bad at modding ;-;

fieryrage wrote:
god FUCKING dammit i LVOE handsome map

top
00:14:097 (1,2) - bro these are already like stacked on top of each other u can afford to add another 1/8 repeat to the end of these, this goes for all of this section ok
00:24:267 (1,2) - these are actually spaced .1 higher DS than they should be compared to the rest of the section lo l r u high
00:29:691 (1,1) - Give Me One Good REason for these ncs combination of i want red on triple and jump after but not the same combo
00:33:928 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - can u just not do this and at least slightly space out the 1/3 stream it makes me :angry: ya
00:35:284 (1) - spinner might be better off at a quieter volume hitsound-wise, also having like a sort of fade in effect would be cool
00:59:013 (1,2) - is there any special reason for having these end on 1/8 ticks? i don't rly care either way tho they might be better off with silenced slider ends waht
01:06:491 (1) - cant u just make this start on the blue tick like a real human bean Z mans midn once streched
01:11:216 (1) - idk about adding buzz slider here, mainly cuz i can't hear the background static as noticeably as the other two; plus it kinda ruins the stop-and-go momentum thing u got going here yes u can, the buzz slider IS THE NOSIE
01:21:386 (1,2,3) - i feel like the yellow combo stuff after this should be spaced out more cuz the vocals are more intense no wtf she articualtes on the blues
01:26:809 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - end yourself owo
01:34:267 (1) - Plz remove 10x sv its illegal to do that in a map thank u owo

MaridiuS wrote:
I'm a masochist for accepting the request...

master
00:12:911 (1,2,3,4) - so for barely audible sounds, we get 1/8 kickslider jumps on 177 bpm... I don't advise doing this at all. 00:12:826 - Also consider making use of this beat, it's at least audible as the pattern I linked. ok
00:14:097 (1) - should be 1/6 no
00:15:453 (1) - ^ noooo
00:16:470 (3,4) - mapped identically like 00:16:131 (1,2) - but it has no kicks on any of it sounds, I suggest reducing intensity on the first pattern I linked. ok
00:14:267 (2) - 00:15:623 (2) - 00:16:979 (2) - 00:18:335 (2) - with osu! limitations of slider speed movement, this isn't fully following the song: The sound that starts the impact is really loud until the next red tick, and it strongly falls down, but sliders can't really slow down in osu! so it is kinda an overmap? However, if you reduce their length, you could make use of the blue tick synth/hithat whatever it is to make interactive 1/4 gameplay. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9134017 something like this is also nice nah i think its fine rn
00:21:724 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - these are kinda weak, even with the same sounds, but increased pitch, I suggest making them have same spacing, in order to make 00:23:080 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - stand out more, since it has added synth sounds in its 1/4, and of course the following pattern. thats what im doing though, increasing spacing with pitch
00:23:758 (1,2,3,4,1) - are noticeably stronger than previous 1/4's, so I suggest to increase spacing even more (look at me trying to buff this map xdxd) it would be overkill tbh
00:24:267 (1) - suggest in making this one slider reversed, to make it stand out as it the strongest 1/8 kickslider in the grouping it seems. uh if you mean 1/16 i considered it but it would be kinda autobreak
00:27:826 (1) - Don't understand why this has the least spacing when it is arguably really loud agree but i think more of the whole melody and hwo the pitch is incresasing
00:54:606 (3,4) - where's the expressive SV at here? ok
01:09:522 (1,2,3) - firstly I see it is structured, but why does this have bigger spacing than 01:09:182 (1,2,3) - that goes for every teal vs yellow triple. Second, is the hithat really more important than the vocals. Alternatively you could also follow both by doing some 2stacks with big spacing and sliders for vocals. I don't feel them music here tbh. teal has higher spacing because vocal lands on them
01:10:877 (1,2,3) - Don't really see it justified, only this really feels more intense than preivous stuff 01:11:047 (3) - , so i suggest keep it structured. disagree
01:12:826 - make it into a stream, you missed an unplanned 1/4. break strucutre
01:19:775 - skipped, why? its not a kiock
01:20:708 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - with the rhytmh and spacing being brutal as it is, it would be kind of you to make this angles more approachable, like circular/interactive back and forth idk the point is to disconnect them
01:25:453 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - too scaled imo, I feel like 01:17:318 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - should stay the strongest spaced triples, since their 1/4 intensity is actually increasing, not some vaguely noticeable and subjectively intense pitch. consider
01:34:267 (1) - ikenai borderline.. 01:32:911 (1) - please rescale those two down a bit. Like 5.00 into 7.00 into 9.00 or less. not hard
01:35:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Are you really giving the spotlight on some random moderate intensity drums to have the biggest impact? Firstly difference in intensity between 2 and 1 is not so big to make a difference in spacing of 15 multiplier, (2) is certainly not weaker 15 times than (1) lmao. Strongly advised to reconsider this, it is also 177bpm so please. its accompanied by vocal

hard
00:20:369 (3) - Should be NCed in consistency with these 00:17:657 (1) - 00:14:945 (1) - ok
00:21:724 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - copying a pattern 4 times in a row with a crude blanket make's it pretty noticeable, so please fix. ok
00:34:182 - I recommend using this drum hit, it is audible plenty, having it ignored feels empty. dotn wanna risk teh confusion it might brin
Not using or giving special notice to these 00:25:792 (5) - 00:28:504 (5,6) - 00:31:047 (4,5) - seems bland. They are noticeably more intense and different than their previous parts in the song, and I'd say deserve special notice. Them being downbeat, they also feel more a part of this phrase 00:25:792 - to 00:27:148 - for example, and should have their seperate patterns from the previous ones, as a form of differentiation, following the music differently on differently sounding parts. I suggest you consider this and take a second look at all of these downbeats. In the song they form a buildup from the downbeat 00:25:792 - , not the specified 00:26:470 (1) - NCed sliders in the current state. i guess we intepret the song differently
00:34:606 (1) - I suggest making this into a 1/2 and reversing it twice to follow the violin followed in the whole section. This way it won't give the players awkward questions of what is going with the 1/3 in the background, since it's pretty passively done. Further more it follows the violin layer better. ok
01:29:521 (1,2,3,4) - NC's like 01:18:674 (1,2,1,2) - I suggest. nah

Venix wrote:
ok mby it's kudosu farming but i'm modding only otwo diffs xd

Beginner
00:27:148 (3,4) - I think this flow is a bit too sharp for beginners, what are you think about moving 00:28:504 (4) - this slider a bit to left? no

00:38:674 (2,3) - Similar issue to first one but here i prefer to ctrl+j this slider. no

01:34:945 (1) - Don't you think this spinner is a bit too long for easy diff? no

Hard
00:32:911 (2,3) - 00:33:589 (4,5) - 00:34:267 (6,1) - These spacings are a bit too big for hard diff I think. // 00:59:691 (1,2) - Here too ;w; fixed second

good luck

terratropic wrote:
short mod from NM

General
combo colours 4 and 5 look identical, they need to be more distict dsiagre
normal-hitfinish hitsound is over 5s in length and takes up almost 1MB in space, you might wanna make it shorter ok

Hard
00:08:165 (1) - set normal-hitfinish here, and do the same for other diffr ok
00:33:928 (5,6) - you could extend these sliders, so the kicks are mapped more accurately copfsunig
01:19:521 (3) - leave the blue tick at 01:19:775 empty, its too subtle to be mapped in hard diff imo ok

Easy
00:42:741 - feels weird to leave this part empty, its part of the vocals so you could have something here disagree i think it fits the mood

-Space- wrote:
Hey! Sorry for being a bit later than I put on the other post!

Beginner

Normal star triggers me!

00:08:165 (1) - I think you should dampen the sound of the drum here, feels overpowering loud compared to everything else. ok

00:27:148 (3) - Wow! I love the way you do these wave sliders! Very nice ok

00:28:504 (4) - Consider moving to somewhere such as (X:140 Y:276) I believe it would flow so much better with your previous wave slider. nah this is intedbnded

00:33:928 (1) - Giving the relatively slower reaction times I believe only 1 measure for a spinner is a bit short, maybe make a large slider to further accomodate the skill range for a new player. should be plenty

00:42:741 - Maybe add a note here, or make the note before a slider for better consistency with the vocals. ok

00:44:097 - ^ ok

01:18:674 (3) - Unsure if you want to do this because I believe you have probably entertained this idea, but perhaps blanket it on the sliderend of the previous slider. nah

Neat map. I really enjoyed the look you've made with this

Hard

00:16:555 (2) - Starting this on 1/4 would sound a lot better in my opinion and really open up more innovative ways to express the music whilst keeping the difficulty up for more experienced players. I would put the drum sound on 00:16:555 (2) also. cool but a little hard

01:19:521 (3) - Maybe remove a reverse, I appreciate the hard difficulty needs some more complex introductions but I believe this is a little too condensed, could just be me though! XD ok

I loved this so much! I love the patterns you make with the sliders, amazing!3

Meg

1,619 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2017-10-11T13:18:46+00:00

AJamez wrote:
noob modder passing through
requested from my Q

[meg]
01:00:877 (8,1) - swap nc here
01:11:724 (1) - just a suggestion yea maybe shorten this slider and make 01:11:979 - clickable instead cus if u listen to vocals carefully it has the same rhythm as 01:15:284 (4,5) - and not as long as 01:12:402 (1,1) - so yea
01:21:216 (7,1) - swap nc

sorry, disagreed all

-Space- wrote:
Meg's Insane

00:05:453 (1,2,3,4) - Unsure about keeping all the sliderends on the same volume as whilst the emphasis of clicking isn't there the returning volume is just as intense and it kind of pulls away from the ambiance the music sets.
changed to circles

Clean map, I like the use of your fast paced sliders especially at the end

ty

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- Frontier -

1,854 posts

Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2017-10-13T06:50:44+00:00

late q

[General]

A thing to concern here is a difficulty spread between Hard and yf's Insane is pretty big in terms of structure. Hard diff use simple patterns and less gimmick while yf's Insane has lots of gimmick using and high spacing. If it's possible, try to add a diff (Light Insane or something) between here to fill this gap with some more gimmick and spacing here.
Why do you tick on "Display storyboard in front of combo fire" while there isn't any storyboard? Is this intentional for any purpose?
I don't think "tv" in tags still necessary since it is already mentioned in title.

[Easy]

00:08:165 (1,2,3) - If this not for variety, you might make them the same as 00:02:741 (1,2,3) - for consistency.

[Cheesecake's Normal]

00:23:589 (6) - Why this note doesn't be stacked with 00:23:759 (7) - like 00:22:233 (2) - and the others do. Consider stacking this note. It still appears the same in gameplay.
01:04:775 (3) - There is no beat at 01:05:453 - but 01:05:284 -, maybe this slider should end at 01:05:284 - instead?
01:27:996 (1) - Should the color combo for this one black?
01:30:199 (5,2) - Overlap here could be avoided, it looks weird. ;w;
01:34:945 to 01:36:301 - Leaving this part doesn't seem appropriate here since there is still some instruments here. Consider mapping this part by adding some hitobjects like 01:33:589 (1,2,3) - or adding a spinner as Easy diff does also fine.

[Hard]

01:35:623 (1,2,3) - Why these aren't orange and red?

[yf's Insane]

OD 9 doesn't seem appropriate for Insane diff. It might be too hard for intermediate players to play it, also it might be too big OD gap between Hard and this diff. Might consider reducing it to around 7-8.
00:22:402 (1,1) - These don't be properly stacked with 00:21:724 (1) -. I mean, 00:21:724 (1) - ends at 145|89 while those two end at 145|90. Maybe you could make them stacked in the same spot.
00:29:182 (1,2,3) - Maybe try to make the spacing here bigger since the instrumental sound here is crescendo.
00:35:171 (3) - Inconsistent hitsound with the other diffs
00:54:267 (1) - Why there is a hitsound here since there is no beat at 00:54:267 -?
01:20:030 to 01:28:165 - Why this part is different than before since the instrumental and vocal is barely no different?

[Meg's Insane]

00:17:657 (1,2,3,4) - This part has exactly the same rhythm as 00:14:945 (1,2,3) -, but why they mapped differently? Consider making them the same. Also apply with 00:20:369 (1,2,3) -.
00:40:708 (1) - The previous hitobjects had been followed the vocals, but what does this note follow? The slider ends in nothing. If you gonna follow this note to vocal, try to end this note at 00:40:877 -.
01:35:623 (1) - Consider extending the reverses to end at 01:36:301 - for consistency among the difficulties.

[Emilia's Insane]

00:24:013 (4) - Shouldn't this slider start at 00:24:097 - instead? Maybe try to make this part like this? (Subjective: Maybe try to make the pattern like this so that 00:24:436 (1) - will be blanket with 00:24:097 (5)'s sliderend too!)
00:34:606 (1,1) - Why these aren't orange and red like the other diffs?
01:05:792 (3) - It *is* off-screen. Isn't it one-pixel off?

[Irre's Extra]

00:19:691 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe try to avoid making these perfectly overlapped, these might make players difficult to see 00:20:030 (1,2) -. Maybe try to make some slightly move like this or something so that they would be clearer for players to see.
00:22:233 (1) - Why this grey? Shouldn't this be orange?
00:33:928 (1) - Why this note exists since there is no 1/3 rhythm here?
00:35:792 (1) - Spinners must be long enough for Auto to achieve 1000 bonus score. At this state, Auto couldn't achieve 1000 bonus score here. Consider extending the spinner or reducing the OD if you don't like to extend it.
00:36:640 (1) - It's pretty pain in the ass to hear the slidertick, it is pretty loud and louder than hitobjects zzz. Also here 00:39:860 (4) -.
00:47:487 - I understand what intense this part is and how you try to express this intense, but having kiai all the part doesn't seem appropriate here. Might consider to make mountain kiai here instead.
01:31:555 (1,1,1,1) - CS7<3

[NeilPerry's Extra]

00:16:979 (2) - I think the slider movement is kinda forcing the players to move unnaturally. Maybe try to ctrl+g this slider would make the movement better here.
01:35:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why these aren't red like the other diffs?

[Regou's Extra]

00:18:165 (3,1) - These might make players confused this to be 1/4- beat gap. Maybe stack the note together?

nice gimmicks mapset. gl~

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-10-13T14:25:38+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
[Irre's Extra]
00:19:691 (1,2,1,2) - Maybe try to avoid making these perfectly overlapped, these might make players difficult to see 00:20:030 (1,2) -. Maybe try to make some slightly move like this or something so that they would be clearer for players to see. oki
00:22:233 (1) - Why this grey? Shouldn't this be orange? handsome plz
00:33:928 (1) - Why this note exists since there is no 1/3 rhythm here? hmm, i think i took this from other diffs? xD
00:35:792 (1) - Spinners must be long enough for Auto to achieve 1000 bonus score. At this state, Auto couldn't achieve 1000 bonus score here. Consider extending the spinner or reducing the OD if you don't like to extend it. oki
00:36:640 (1) - It's pretty pain in the ass to hear the slidertick, it is pretty loud and louder than hitobjects zzz. Also here 00:39:860 (4) -. oki
00:47:487 - I understand what intense this part is and how you try to express this intense, but having kiai all the part doesn't seem appropriate here. Might consider to make mountain kiai here instead. but the glow of the slider..
01:31:555 (1,1,1,1) - CS7<3 <3
thanks!![/notice]

http://puu.sh/xXaia/675be14c99.txt

hehe

1,962 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

hehe 2017-10-14T16:59:54+00:00

slayed says

mindmaster107 wrote:
np

00:12:911 (1,1) - kinda unnecessary i think, these are edgy already

00:21:640 (3,1) - dont want to ruin the pattern, should be fine i think

00:33:250 (1,2) - i wanted to emphasize the weird background sound

00:52:911 (1) - yes

01:08:504 (1) - not anymore

MaridiuS wrote:
actually i left hitsounds up to handsome, but i tried to throw some whistles here and there and it didnt look like it worked
00:19:013 (1) - decreased the spacing slightly, i still want 00:19:013 (1) - this to have a lot of spacing because music is changing
00:19:860 (2) - i dont follow violin
00:20:369 (1,2) - ^
00:24:436 - i just map what the song provides, its the most intense part of the song, so its the hardest part of the map. i cant really do anything about it, its all about song
00:27:826 (1) - sounds are different, second one should have a jump and not a triple imo
00:36:640 - same as ^
00:50:877 (3) - kinda remapped it
00:52:911 (1) - ^
01:00:369 (4) - uhh, not sure if i really want to map 1/4s in a calm part
01:01:724 (3) - remapped too
01:01:724 (3) - ^
01:02:233 (5,1) - ^
01:06:470 (1) - fixed
01:09:691 (3,4,5) - rhythm is still the same - triple + triple
01:11:894 (1,2,3) - tried smth
01:19:775 (6) - uhh dunno, kickslider will ruin the whole emphasis of this thing
01:28:080 (8) - its kinda the same as 01:26:047 (5) -, pretty close to inaudible but its not. should be fine since i map all of them

Meg

1,619 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2017-10-15T02:05:33+00:00

to - Frontier -

00:17:657 (1,2,3,4) - wanna follow chorus
00:40:708 (1) - fixed
01:35:623 (1) - same as above, for chorus

ty

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emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-10-15T08:24:53+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
[Emilia's Insane]
00:24:013 (4) - Shouldn't this slider start at 00:24:097 - instead? Maybe try to make this part like this? (Subjective: Maybe try to make the pattern like this so that 00:24:436 (1) - will be blanket with 00:24:097 (5)'s sliderend too!) no there are sounds on all beats?
00:34:606 (1,1) - Why these aren't orange and red like the other diffs? bc its 1/3
01:05:792 (3) - It *is* off-screen. Isn't it one-pixel off?

nope, that slider should be 1 pix in screen: https://puu.sh/xYyxC/4a40935f77.gif

no change

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2017-10-15T17:37:35+00:00

i wish thread subscription worked properly

- Frontier - wrote:
[Cheesecake's Normal]
00:23:589 (6) - Why this note doesn't be stacked with 00:23:759 (7) - like 00:22:233 (2) - and the others do. Consider stacking this note. It still appears the same in gameplay. fixed
01:04:775 (3) - There is no beat at 01:05:453 - but 01:05:284 -, maybe this slider should end at 01:05:284 - instead? following the vocals there
01:27:996 (1) - Should the color combo for this one black? ye
01:30:199 (5,2) - Overlap here could be avoided, it looks weird. ;w; ok these dont even touch eachother did u select the wrong objects
01:34:945 to 01:36:301 - Leaving this part doesn't seem appropriate here since there is still some instruments here. Consider mapping this part by adding some hitobjects like 01:33:589 (1,2,3) - or adding a spinner as Easy diff does also fine. ok i think i accidentally deleted this so uhhhh both blue and green..

thanks

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Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,090 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-10-16T14:32:45+00:00

[master]
whys it od10

00:57:657 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - doesnt this stream start like a beat earlier dont see why you started it here, you switched off the vocal layer anyway

01:00:369 (3,4,5) - idk seems weird 2 hav the filler triple and the vocal triple 01:00:877 (2,3,4) - the same

01:02:402 (1,2) - think circles works better here..

yea ur gonna need to explain this spaced triples part cuz i literally cant see how its related to the song at all
[winber]
00:21:047 (1,2,1,2) - i think these create a really wweird stopping motion on the slider end,if you want a constant motion i suggest moving the stacked ones up a bit instead

00:29:691 (4,1) - u could like follow the string thing instead of just 1/2 jumps

00:34:606 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - dont think its rly clear enough that its 1/3, i guess. just keeping them as 2 stacks maybe?

00:41:215 (4) - this thing kinda sticks out cuz it is the only one not on the thing you follow everywhere else. switching to vocals for this one circle is weird

01:11:724 (2) - is this even rankable

01:19:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - seems kinda unfair to introduce the spaced 1/4 this way cuz u dont do anything like it ever before
[sing]
00:16:131 (1,2) - the slider end of 1 is clearly stronger.. i think circle+1/1 works a lot better. or circle+repeat

01:04:775 (3,4) - think a slowed down 1/1 slider works better here cuz theres nothing on the red tick
[slayed]
00:18:843 (4,1) - considering there isnt a drum on 1, i think you should nerf it since all other ones do have kicks

00:49:521 (4,5,6) - doesnt it make more sense to make 4 a repeat cuz then all ur clicks are on vocals

00:51:555 (1) - same, circles works better here cuz vocal syllables

[regou]
00:11:640 (1) - wtf is this spinner even following? theres nothing in the song suggesting a spinner, plz

00:47:530 - shouldnt this part be gray colors

kiai looks like u did normal triples then accidentally ctrl g'd them

if u want to focus on back and forth movement why not flip 01:14:267 (1,2) - these things too

[neilperry]
00:05:962 (2) - the slayed diff is that way ^

nice diff lo

01:18:165 (1,2,1) - this kinda ignores what the vocals you were focusing on do tho

[irre]
00:17:657 (2,3) - uhhhhhh i think u should make all of the 3/4 clickable, it sticks out the most of anything in the section.

00:35:792 (1) - think u should start it earlier cuz ninja spinners are annoying as fuck
actually its unrankable lol

01:13:758 (1) - seems weird not to put a kickslider on this vocal but on all others

nice slider art -_

[emilia]
00:29:521 (4,1) - would b cute to follow the string flourish thing here imo

00:49:267 (2,3,4,5) - seems too intense for how calm this part is..

feel like the kickslider sections are way way way way way way way way way harder than the normal kiai parts. can u try to buff them a bit rhythmically so it isnt such a huge diff spike
[meg]
00:52:233 (1,2,3,4) - the vocal stops but the pattern is still the same? i think you should make it different tapping / pattern from 00:51:555 (1,2,3,4) - cuz there is a really clear contrast
[yf]
00:52:402 (6,7,8,9,10) - same here, the vocal stops but then 2 patterns that are more intense pop up?

01:13:081 (1) - nice uterus

[hard]
too easy compared to the various insane diffs, can u get a light insane or something that introduces triples and stuff cuz even if u consider emilias as the lowest insane the spread is shit..

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-10-17T13:05:41+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[emilia]
00:29:521 (4,1) - would b cute to follow the string flourish thing here imo but i did wym

00:49:267 (2,3,4,5) - seems too intense for how calm this part is.. ???? can u not play them lik

feel like the kickslider sections are way way way way way way way way way harder than the normal kiai parts. can u try to buff them a bit rhythmically so it isnt such a huge diff spike no Bandsome said no

NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

NeilPerry 2017-10-18T05:20:53+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
late q

[NeilPerry's Extra]
00:16:979 (2) - I think the slider movement is kinda forcing the players to move unnaturally. Maybe try to ctrl+g this slider would make the movement better here. it's works well tbh
01:35:623 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Why these aren't red like the other diffs?ok

Naotoshi wrote:
[neilperry]
00:05:962 (2) - the slayed diff is that way ^ ya im his big fan
nice diff lo

01:18:165 (1,2,1) - this kinda ignores what the vocals you were focusing on do tho uh i cant skip beats from this 01:18:674 - and dont wanna broke consistency with previous stuff 01:17:657 (1,2) - so i think it should work well as now

Thanks!

https://pastebin.com/4Ukd2tPP

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-10-18T11:58:18+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[regou]
00:11:640 (1) - wtf is this spinner even following? theres nothing in the song suggesting a spinner, plz originally im following the fading out of xylophone but fine i removed it

00:47:530 - shouldnt this part be gray colors this part is slightly more intensive then last part so i added some colours but it seems that using blue combo colour is retarded so i replaced it with light gray now

kiai looks like u did normal triples then accidentally ctrl g'd them

if u want to focus on back and forth movement why not flip 01:14:267 (1,2) - these things too triplets are the only place i can do it the sv is too high if i flip those flow will get worse by a lot

@frontier instead of stacking it i made the spacing different there

Thanks for modding!

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Sing

354 posts

Joined December 2013

Sing 2017-10-19T02:42:19+00:00

naotoshi
00:16:131 (1,2) - the slider end of 1 is clearly stronger.. i think circle+1/1 works a lot better. or circle+repeat nah ill keep for simplicity, first fast part of song anyways shud b bettr if u ease the difficulty in with simpler rhythm
01:04:775 (3,4) - think a slowed down 1/1 slider works better here cuz theres nothing on the red tick synth sound in the back

hehe

1,962 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

hehe 2017-10-19T15:30:03+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[master]
whys it od10

00:57:657 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - doesnt this stream start like a beat earlier dont see why you started it here, you switched off the vocal layer anyway considered this previously but it's more comfortable to start on the downbeat

01:00:369 (3,4,5) - idk seems weird 2 hav the filler triple and the vocal triple 01:00:877 (2,3,4) - the same not really a filler triple, i used it more as an accompaniment to the 'held' vocal too

01:02:402 (1,2) - think circles works better here.. disagree for pattern

yea ur gonna need to explain this spaced triples part cuz i literally cant see how its related to the song at all. triples accompany background precussion, blue big triples = vocal

also hard spread is perfectly fine to me

and slayed fixed all

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

4,315 posts

Joined December 2011

Irreversible 2017-10-25T18:36:59+00:00

Naotoshi:

1) I think there's enough active objects here to emphasize the song.
2) I believe that it's already fixed?
3) The vocals are lower in this section.

thank - . -

Thanks!

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-10-27T05:53:37+00:00

SPOILER

mindmaster107 wrote:
[winber's expert]
This is one of the best maps imo, with only 1 thing I could find with my horrible modding skills.

01:35:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This doesn't feel intense enough as a closing to a 6.3 star technical map.
honestly i think what handsome did it just ridiculous, but it guess it matches with the previous section. i think it's big enough considering the accuracy needed to hit them consistently anyway

Naotoshi wrote:
[winber]
00:21:047 (1,2,1,2) - i think these create a really wweird stopping motion on the slider end,if you want a constant motion i suggest moving the stacked ones up a bit instead i guess ur right, i wanted the sliders to go up, but it probably makes sense not to force it too hard

00:29:691 (4,1) - u could like follow the string thing instead of just 1/2 jumps 2 late i've commited

00:34:606 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - dont think its rly clear enough that its 1/3, i guess. just keeping them as 2 stacks maybe? i just really like the snappy motion I get out of these notes, and it matches how dramatically the intensity just drops. would like to keep if possible

00:41:215 (4) - this thing kinda sticks out cuz it is the only one not on the thing you follow everywhere else. switching to vocals for this one circle is weird i think i made it clear that i'm switching to something else considering i stopped using the slider pattern. I like how i switch between the two without anything dramatic. Peronsally thought sticking to that slider pattern for the whole section was a little too boring and missed the elegance of the vocals. i guess it's a small little gem in the midst of a pile of dirt so to speak

01:11:724 (2) - is this even rankable y not tho. rhythmically it's prety clear and the the slider path is as well

01:19:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - seems kinda unfair to introduce the spaced 1/4 this way cuz u dont do anything like it ever before i think it's a good way to indicate some change is gonna happen, and frankly i don't think it's actually that difficulty because the way the circles are spaced is very fluid. it'd be a whole diffierent story if the stream was back and forth or some other atrocity

http://puu.sh/y8fab/0a3c6ca60e.osu

yf_bmp

Elite Storyboarder II / Elite Mapper

1,630 posts

Joined December 2011

yf_bmp 2017-11-09T07:32:07+00:00

- Frontier - wrote:
[yf's Insane]
OD 9 doesn't seem appropriate for Insane diff. It might be too hard for intermediate players to play it, also it might be too big OD gap between Hard and this diff. Might consider reducing it to around 7-8. forgot
00:22:402 (1,1) - These don't be properly stacked with 00:21:724 (1) -. I mean, 00:21:724 (1) - ends at 145|89 while those two end at 145|90. Maybe you could make them stacked in the same spot. i think it's not that necessary
00:29:182 (1,2,3) - Maybe try to make the spacing here bigger since the instrumental sound here is crescendo. kk
00:35:171 (3) - Inconsistent hitsound with the other diffs no reason to be consistent
00:54:267 (1) - Why there is a hitsound here since there is no beat at 00:54:267 -? my fault, but thought it sounds ok so keep
01:20:030 to 01:28:165 - Why this part is different than before since the instrumental and vocal is barely no different? coz i just want to make a different pattern, and emphasize the air in the next part of kiai.

Naotoshi wrote:
[yf]
00:52:402 (6,7,8,9,10) - same here, the vocal stops but then 2 patterns that are more intense pop up? i change the rhythm to follow the exist sound

01:13:081 (1) - nice uterus .

thx

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Meg

1,619 posts

Joined August 2012

Meg 2017-11-10T12:10:03+00:00

naotoshi

i prefer this pattern, keep

Nao Tomori

Nomination Assessment Team

3,090 posts

Joined December 2014

Nao Tomori 2017-11-17T17:58:32+00:00

how about silencing slider tick at the start!

normal finish 1 goes on for a fucking year and a half can you cut it a bit

[mastr]
00:54:097 - kickslider?

00:57:487 - yea i kno its more comfortable but its really weird sounding when u map a sound halfway through it..

01:00:369 (3,4,5) - yea but considering how clearly your rhythm is focusing on the vocals having a triple on something that isn't in that is a bit odd clicking wise. why not a repeat slider instead

[w1]
01:19:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - hmm.. i mean i think back and forth would actually fit a lot better lol. cuz 01:18:674 (1,2,3,4) - this actually sets up a fast back and forth movement, but then you have this weird circlular thing instead of the movement from right before it .. if you want to keep the triangle i'd suggest https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9560808 since that maintains the back and forth movement for the start of it then transitions smoothly

[sing]
shorten by 1 repeat 00:44:097 (3) - thx

01:09:606 (2,3,1,2,3) - i dont rly get the density changes in the kiai, like that is a bunch of 1/4 spam then theres only 1/2 for the next measure, then 1/4 again, then 1/2.. but the song is more or less the same. how about at least making 01:10:877 (2) - these type of things filler kicksliders too so you have kickslider spam everywheere instead of just in half the kiai

[slayed]
01:29:521 (1,2,3) - meh i dont think this is a good effect, since it doesnt follow the hitsounding or the song. imo either add drum sample to the overmaped blue ticks or just do 1/2 spam lol

[regou]
00:22:911 (6,7,1) - imo this sounds a lot better if u delete 7. then it has same rhythm structure as 00:21:894 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - which is duplicated in the song

00:41:724 (1) - delete, if u switch to vocals at 00:40:708 (1,2,3,4,5) - then there isnt one here. like mapping a breath is kinda dumb imo..

01:30:708 (1,2,1) - meh u make it really clear 1/2 spam with 01:30:199 (1,2,3) - but then add a triple? it seems weird cuz the song doesn't change. i dont think that creates more emphasis or anything it just looks weird lol

[neilperry]
01:18:335 (2,1) - no i think ctrlg works a lot better lol, if u focus on vocals like that randomly ignoring it one time just sucks

[irre]
00:17:657 (2,3) - no i dont mean add more active things for the sake of it, but atm you have a click at 00:17:996 - where there is basically nothing in the song, but 00:17:911 - is a slider end, so it eems weird. a repeat slider would work well too. you do it at other places like 00:20:369 (1) - anyway

[emilia]
00:29:691 - no i mean the 1/4 thing tht starts here
its kind in the bg idk

00:49:267 (2,3,4,5) - ? do u think i cant play a 5 star map lol
think about the rhythm in the rest of the section, do you see a random quint for no reason anywhere else? no? then why is this one here? it doesn't even follow anything. just delete 2

01:18:674 (1,2,3,4,1) - dude u go from like generic base spacing stuff to literally fullscreen kickslider jumps, that is way too big of a spike. considering spread i actually suggest to nerf these since your diff would logically come after the hard. 01:30:369 (2,3,4,1) - same here
[cheesecake]
01:14:945 (2,5) - these are a bit weird putting stronger vocal + finish on the slider end. how about something of this nature instead: http://puu.sh/yo4xk/4d4e1674f4.jpg
basically just clicks on vocals

01:30:199 (5) - imo end this on the white tick, it sounds more natural with the drum sampleset there

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-11-19T07:33:12+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
how about silencing slider tick at the start!

normal finish 1 goes on for a fucking year and a half can you cut it a bit

[regou]
00:22:911 (6,7,1) - imo this sounds a lot better if u delete 7. then it has same rhythm structure as 00:21:894 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - which is duplicated in the song sure

00:41:724 (1) - delete, if u switch to vocals at 00:40:708 (1,2,3,4,5) - then there isnt one here. like mapping a breath is kinda dumb imo.. ok

01:30:708 (1,2,1) - meh u make it really clear 1/2 spam with 01:30:199 (1,2,3) - but then add a triple? it seems weird cuz the song doesn't change. i dont think that creates more emphasis or anything it just looks weird lol nope the melody clearly suggests a triplet here

ty

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NeilPerry

301 posts

Joined May 2011

NeilPerry 2017-11-19T07:40:43+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[neilperry]
01:18:335 (2,1) - no i think ctrlg works a lot better lol, if u focus on vocals like that randomly ignoring it one time just sucks okok, it's sounds better tru

thanks!

https://pastebin.com/KzpMQWGL

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-11-19T08:02:24+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[emilia]
00:29:691 - no i mean the 1/4 thing tht starts here
its kind in the bg idk its already being emphasised with the phat jump

00:49:267 (2,3,4,5) - ? do u think i cant play a 5 star map lol
think about the rhythm in the rest of the section, do you see a random quint for no reason anywhere else? no? then why is this one here? it doesn't even follow anything. just delete 2 ? the only location in the entire section that has a vocal vibrato on 1/4 and the addition of the soft cymbal in the bg constitutes the quint. if i could add more quints in this section i would, but they're most likely being covered by a vocal note or something.

01:18:674 (1,2,3,4,1) - dude u go from like generic base spacing stuff to literally fullscreen kickslider jumps, that is way too big of a spike. considering spread i actually suggest to nerf these since your diff would logically come after the hard. 01:30:369 (2,3,4,1) - same here emphasis of the most intense parts of the kiai. the drums are way stronger than in the softer vocals of the other parts of the kiai. a diff spike is not bad on its own, especially when it adheres to the music imo.

no change

winber1

4,520 posts

Joined February 2010

winber1 2017-11-19T10:07:43+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[w1]
01:19:352 (1,2,3,4,5) - hmm.. i mean i think back and forth would actually fit a lot better lol. cuz 01:18:674 (1,2,3,4) - this actually sets up a fast back and forth movement, but then you have this weird circlular thing instead of the movement from right before it .. if you want to keep the triangle i'd suggest https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9560808 since that maintains the back and forth movement for the start of it then transitions smoothly
o nigga THANKz

http://puu.sh/ypb3p/8e04cb0979.osu

Cheesecake

729 posts

Joined December 2013

Cheesecake 2017-11-19T10:36:19+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[cheesecake]
01:14:945 (2,5) - these are a bit weird putting stronger vocal + finish on the slider end. how about something of this nature instead: http://puu.sh/yo4xk/4d4e1674f4.jpg
basically just clicks on vocals id rather keep it as is, the longer slider accentuates the longer vocal which i prefer more than accentuating individual syllables

01:30:199 (5) - imo end this on the white tick, it sounds more natural with the drum sampleset there ok

thx

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469,152,90877,37,4,3:1:0:0:
442,248,91216,1,0,3:0:0:0:
364,308,91555,2,0,P|315:318|266:310,1,100,6|0,3:1|3:0,0:0:0:0:
184,252,92233,1,4,3:1:0:0:
154,156,92572,1,0,3:0:0:0:
187,61,92911,2,0,P|230:25|279:6,1,100,6|0,3:1|3:0,0:0:0:0:
293,105,93589,69,4,3:1:0:0:
271,202,93928,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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256,192,94945,12,0,96301,3:0:0:0:

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-11-22T21:16:59+00:00

Naotoshi: listen to the choir like vocals. This will tell you clearly what I was following. 00:17:996 (3) - There is a pitch increase of the vocals, but there isn't one 00:20:369 (1) - .

handsome: 00:20:369 (1,2,1) - can you stack this neater 4 me? thanks

Sing

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Joined December 2013

Sing 2017-11-25T16:55:17+00:00

Naotoshi wrote:
[sing]
shorten by 1 repeat 00:44:097 (3) - thx done

01:09:606 (2,3,1,2,3) - i dont rly get the density changes in the kiai, like that is a bunch of 1/4 spam then theres only 1/2 for the next measure, then 1/4 again, then 1/2.. but the song is more or less the same. how about at least making 01:10:877 (2) - these type of things filler kicksliders too so you have kickslider spam everywheere instead of just in half the kiai 1/4 1/2 1/4 is like response call thing lol song stays the same but the lyrics follow a pattern in rhythm, im just emulating that wid these patterns, i dont think its a problem and it stays consistent in rhythm and pattern density

new .osu: https://puu.sh/ytkOT/0b977b5591.osu

hehe

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hehe 2017-11-27T13:48:39+00:00

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