exile.
Have you tried reading the comments for the map?[Taiga] wrote:
Saiya - Remote Control [Take Control!] +HD - map by Linda, barely anyone can DT this despite being low bpm, have tech aspects...... 5min map.... "farm map"
Sakamoto Maaya - Okaerinasai (tomatomerde Remix) [Return] +HD - 6min map with bursts, low complexity patterns, 1735 combo map "farm map"..............Oh, you mean the map that is literally the exact same pattern, over and over and over again, for six whole minutes? If you can do a burst of 5 notes consistently you have everything you need to 99% this map. It's a farm map copy pasted over itself four times.
Oh, but everything he said to me is apparently fine, despite being way ruder and additionally completely pointless. It's just me you criticize. Go fuck yourself. At least what I said directly relates to my point, which is that the people who are the loudest critics of "le evil pp system" are usually the biggest exploiters of it. It's all insecurity.Mio Winter wrote:
I don't think Taiga needs to be attacked for anything, even if he/she sometimes plays maps that are easier to get PP from than Imperial Circus maps. It's mean to attack someone unnecessarily.
I didn't know this was a continuation of an earlier feud. I just commented on what I saw.Philosofikal wrote:
Oh, but everything he said to me is apparently fine, despite being way ruder and additionally completely pointless. It's just me you criticize. Go fuck yourself. At least what I said directly relates to my point, which is that the people who are the loudest critics of "le evil pp system" are usually the biggest exploiters of it. It's all insecurity.Mio Winter wrote:
I don't think Taiga needs to be attacked for anything, even if he/she sometimes plays maps that are easier to get PP from than Imperial Circus maps. It's mean to attack someone unnecessarily.
I'm talking about right now. Have you even read the thread? Why is it OK for me to be called an autistic retard on drugs if you're going to take it upon yourself to single people out for their arguing tactics?Mio Winter wrote:
I didn't know this was a continuation of an earlier feud. I just commented on what I saw.
Oh yeah, lots of the things he/she said to you after you attacked him/her were really rude, and I condemn them too. Using "autistic" as a swear word is bad enough in its own right. I didn't mention these things at first because they were delivered in defence.Philosofikal wrote:
I'm talking about right now. Have you even read the thread? Why is it OK for me to be called an autistic retard on drugs if you're going to take it upon yourself to single people out for their arguing tactics?Mio Winter wrote:
I didn't know this was a continuation of an earlier feud. I just commented on what I saw.
Rayne wrote:
Well, it's mostly a "camp"-mentality, partially formed of players who want to give themselves the benefit of the doubt by not playing PP maps at all so they can say "I could be way higher but I just don't play pp maps"
Then there's also the actual pp farmers who just want to rank up to give themselves a feeling of superiority by having such a high rank in a very low time, living under the illusion they're just that talented to "improve" much faster than everyone else, usually will also condemn any non-farm map as "cancer" or "shit map", because all they did was acquire the skillset needed to play said pp-maps.v
You should first spend some time to view history of this guy in GnR and why not only me is rude towards him. Then you will understand situation.Mio Winter wrote:
Oh yeah, lots of the things he/she said to you after you attacked him/her were really rude, and I condemn them too. Using "autistic" as a swear word is bad enough in its own right. I didn't mention these things at first because they were delivered in defence.
I should make a note that if I'm going to take my moral hat on and start judging people for what they do, I ought to judge everyone for their due. : P
He was rude but he wasn't wrong, you do have a lot of farm maps in your top plays.[Taiga] wrote:
You should first spend some time to view history of this guy in GnR and why not only me is rude towards him. Then you will understand situation.
This may be just anecdotal experience or luck but I FCd that map on my first try for 257pp[Taiga] wrote:
Saiya - Remote Control [Take Control!] +HD - map by Linda, barely anyone can DT this despite being low bpm, have tech aspects...... 5min map.... "farm map"
It might have tech aspects but the map is very simple and repetitive and that outweighs the tech aspects.Well, with this mentality most maps are farm maps, ESPECIALLY 10-15min (3-6k combo) marathons due how "easy patterns they have".
No, there are many many many maps with slider speed variation, hard to read patterns, weird AR/bpm combos, mapping that accentuates the less prominent instruments etc.[Taiga] wrote:
Well, with this mentality most maps are farm maps, ESPECIALLY 10-15min (3-6k combo) marathons due how "easy patterns they have".
/shrug
Don't know about the remote control one[Taiga] wrote:
Sakamoto Maaya - Okaerinasai (tomatomerde Remix) [Return] +HD - 6min map with bursts, low complexity patterns, 1735 combo map "farm map"..............
Good example of how music used to be objectively better.L-a-m-e-y [ B ] wrote:
easy pp right over here
You need to make a distinction between farm maps and good maps that just so happen to give good PP. That map falls into the latter category, and I've FC'd it many times with and without hidden, not for PP but just because I like that map and its enjoyable (even though I think Azer is a douche).N0thingSpecial wrote:
Don't know about the remote control one[Taiga] wrote:
Sakamoto Maaya - Okaerinasai (tomatomerde Remix) [Return] +HD - 6min map with bursts, low complexity patterns, 1735 combo map "farm map"..............
But this one, I FCed this once with no mod back when I was 5 digit for them marathon pp, after entering 4 digit decided to re-FC it with HD cause it's easy, after breaking 6k pp and learning HR, decided to FC this with HDHR cause it's sweet marathon pp, and that's how I got a 294pp score from this map.
Trust me this is a pp map
Are we talking about the same okaerinasai? Cause azer's is called "collab" and the one we're talking about is called "Return"B1rd wrote:
You need to make a distinction between farm maps and good maps that just so happen to give good PP. That map falls into the latter category, and I've FC'd it many times with and without hidden, not for PP but just because I like that map and its enjoyable (even though I think Azer is a douche).
Music is nether purely subjective or objectiveB1rd wrote:
Good example of how music used to be objectively better.
I say we define our moral axioms clearly and deduce our conclusions using formal logic. It should go something like this:N0thingSpecial wrote:
Can we not turn this into a philosophy debate
That's what I did in the last thread.Mio Winter wrote:
I say we define our moral axioms clearly and deduce our conclusions using formal logic. It should go something like this:N0thingSpecial wrote:
Can we not turn this into a philosophy debate
Premise 1: Suffering is bad and happiness is good.
???
Conclusion: PP maps are bad/good. And btw music is subjective/objective.
Musical and other cultural events integrate individuals into groups (Gurvitch 1971), and at the same timeM3ATL0V3R wrote:
Music is nether purely subjective or objectiveB1rd wrote:
Good example of how music used to be objectively better.
There is objective qualities to music however the perception of it is heavily effected by social conditioning [1] just like food. [2]
Music is heavily tied to memory, just by listening to a song you can feel like you are taken back to the time in your life you listened to it. You are attracted to music that expresses your identity. [3]
Therefore it is incorrect to say music is objective, since for the most part the perception of it depends on the person.
Music is subjective
[1] https://vtechworks.lib.vt.edu/bitstream ... sequence=1
[2] http://www.acrwebsite.org/search/view-c ... px?Id=7565
[3] http://faculty.georgetown.edu/irvinem/t ... y-1996.pdf
Why? : OB1rd wrote:
By the way, looking at your blog, you really need to read Rand or something.
But I want to (try to) be.B1rd wrote:
Because you're a filthy altruist.
I have read half of the fountainhead and so far I have a few concerns with the ideas presented so far.B1rd wrote:
you really need to read Rand or something.
You find it amusing but after nearly 2k post I say it gets old real quick and I can accept the fact that people like B1rd can butcher the word subjectivity and objectivity without a problemMio Winter wrote:
I say we define our moral axioms clearly and deduce our conclusions using formal logic. It should go something like this:
Premise 1: Suffering is bad and happiness is good.
???
Conclusion: PP maps are bad/good. And btw music is subjective/objective.
Rand's books are largely formulaic. I wouldn't criticise them in that respect any more than I'd criticise 1984 for not being a perfect representation of totalitarian governments. It's not a literal interpretation of reality.M3ATL0V3R wrote:
I have read half of the fountainhead and so far I have a few concerns with the ideas presented so far.B1rd wrote:
you really need to read Rand or something.
I stopped reading after the point Roark met Dominique since the book stopped being grounded in reality and started to twist reason to the point things started seeming supernatural. People started knowing things based on "feeling" and the weird stare off between Dom and Roark and their weird coincidental meet up after Dom and Peter didn't work out was a bit much.
It tries to show that pure egoism is an ideal virtue and tries to degrade the supposed "opposite" using the character Peter. Peter is a strawman from the start, he is deeply flawed supposedly because he is the opposite of an egoist but I would argue that he is actually an egoist that is only concerned about others when it benefits him. The true difference between Peter and Roark is the congruence of their actions and their ideals. Peter is flawed not because of his lack of egoism but because of his lack of direction and the conflict of the different personas he has because of his lack of authenticity. Not to mention his shallow fascination with the superficial and his unawareness of his own ideals and emotions.
The book also portrays the two protagonists Roark and Dominique as superhuman at times. Roark is supposed to be the type who is immersed in architecture and antisocial but somehow he is able to read Peter like a book? You don't magically get social skills without being social.
Some of the ideas are good such as judging a person by the work they do but the book takes this way too far trying to paint the world in black and white rather than what it should be which is a shade of gray. Ideas are important, your interests are important but they should not be the only interest you have.
What gets tedious is arguments about semantics.N0thingSpecial wrote:
You find it amusing but after nearly 2k post I say it gets old real quick and I can accept the fact that people like B1rd can butcher the word subjectivity and objectivity without a problem
That feeling is mutualB1rd wrote:
What gets tedious is arguments about semantics.
Welcome to like 75% of philosophy, bickering about the technical details of organizational systems.B1rd wrote:
What gets tedious is arguments about semantics.
This premise is already rubbish.Mio Winter wrote:
Premise 1: Suffering is bad and happiness is good.