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MBomb

MBomb 2017-08-17T01:08:32+00:00

Absolute Zero wrote:
[MBomb's Platter]
00:06:328 (4) - At 00:06:445, there's a pretty substantial note. You're following 00:18:281 (4), which is a weaker note on a 1/4 beat. Make this a repeat 1/8 slider on 00:06:328 and a 1/2 slider on 00:06:562. - I can't hear a note on the 1/4 or 1/8?
00:21:562 (3,4,5,6,1) - I think it's a bit weird that 00:21:796 (4,5) is smaller than 00:22:031 (5,6), even though they're the same musical interval. This makes kind of a confusing pattern for a platter player, even if it is an easy back-forth-back-forth. I would standardize the spacing to that of 00:22:031 (5,6). - The stronger pitch on 4 and 6 is why they have higher distancing than 5 which is a significantly less strong pitch.
00:28:828 (4) - Same comment as 00:06:328 (4). - Same as then.
00:28:828 (4,5) - Antiflow here is a little challenging, since the musical phrase seems like it's going to end, and a player is probably going to walk that, because it also looks walkable (but most of the time it won't be exactly walkable for a platter player). - Increased it a bit to make it more obvious as a dash.
00:35:156 (4,1,2) - Think you could lower the distance more, since dashing to the hyper is quite harsh. - Done.
00:44:062 (3,4,5,6,1) - Same comment as 00:21:562 (3,4,5,6,1). - Same as then.
00:46:875 (1) - Maybe place at x=72 for symmetry. - Symmetry with what though.

Hitsounding
00:02:578 (3) - Add a whistle here. - Sure.
00:18:515 - Add a whistle here. - Alright.
00:25:078 (3) - Add a whistle here. - Done.
00:35:625 (1,2,3,4,5) - This combo whistle pattern is inconsistent with 00:13:125 (1,2,3,4), even though they're the same music. - Fixed.

Thanks for the mod!

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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-08-18T23:40:46+00:00

Hello Error-kun 👀
I hope you know throwing a lot of kudos to your map doesn't help at all and you should save it for other people sets that you may love or to reach 12sp on other sets of yours 👀

[General]

Your custom soft hitwhistle fits the song; however, it sounds very low, so low I had to reduce the music volume to actually notice it was there.
You have an obvious spread issue here. There's a big gap between Easy and Normal. Easy is mostly 1/1 and larger sliders, while Normal has a lot of 1/2 usage and doesn't leave much time for players of the Normal level to rest. Normal is not a normal level diff, it's actually an advanced diff, so what you should do is rename "Normal" to "Advanced" and make a diff that fills the gap between your Easy and your Advanced difficulties.

[Easy]

00:02:812 (4,1) - This blanket can be improved.

I'm not very satisfied with this diff. The sv feels way too low, I would suggest using at least 0.80, and you should also use a higher spacing bc the one you have right now feels too low for the speed of the song. Then, you don't have any repeat sliders, which are a basic element used in low difficulties, so I gotta say your Easy is a bit boring; you really should find some good spots to add some repeats (and be sure to be consistent with their usage). Changing sv and spacing may require a lot of movements, so I understand you may not be willing to do such huge change; maybe a remap with the new settings and ideas on where to put some repeats is a better idea and could give better results.

["Normal"]

00:41:250 (1,2,3) - The flow you create here feels a bit awkward compared to the rest of the diff, idk how to explain it, but I suggest to change the pattern to something else that you commonly used in the diff.

[Hard]

00:02:578 (3) - Move the last point to the left until it reaches its limit before breaking the slider, then move both of the middle points that make the curvature by two grids to the right each one so the curvature is right in the middle. This is the result, a neat symmetrical slider.
00:05:390 (4,1) - 00:10:781 (7,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - 00:31:875 (1,4) - 00:34:687 (4,5) - Blankets that can be improved.

[MBomb's Platter]

Nice overall, but I would suggest to... wait... idk anything about ctb :v

I may take another look at it if I see you keep working on it, and hopefully nominate it. My main concerns are the spread and the Easy diff. For now, good luck!

-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-08-19T01:13:02+00:00

ezek wrote:
Hello Error-kun 👀
I hope you know throwing a lot of kudos to your map doesn't help at all and you should save it for other people sets that you may love or to reach 12sp on other sets of yours 👀 yes I was dumb :'3

[General]
Your custom soft hitwhistle fits the song; however, it sounds very low, so low I had to reduce the music volume to actually notice it was there. should be fixed now.
You have an obvious spread issue here. There's a big gap between Easy and Normal. Easy is mostly 1/1 and larger sliders, while Normal has a lot of 1/2 usage and doesn't leave much time for players of the Normal level to rest. Normal is not a normal level diff, it's actually an advanced diff, so what you should do is rename "Normal" to "Advanced" and make a diff that fills the gap between your Easy and your Advanced difficulties. I hope its fine now :3
[Easy]
00:02:812 (4,1) - This blanket can be improved.
I'm not very satisfied with this diff. The sv feels way too low, I would suggest using at least 0.80, and you should also use a higher spacing bc the one you have right now feels too low for the speed of the song. Then, you don't have any repeat sliders, which are a basic element used in low difficulties, so I gotta say your Easy is a bit boring; you really should find some good spots to add some repeats (and be sure to be consistent with their usage). Changing sv and spacing may require a lot of movements, so I understand you may not be willing to do such huge change; maybe a remap with the new settings and ideas on where to put some repeats is a better idea and could give better results. ok remap SV0.8

["Normal"]
renamed to Advanced :v
00:41:250 (1,2,3) - The flow you create here feels a bit awkward compared to the rest of the diff, idk how to explain it, but I suggest to change the pattern to something else that you commonly used in the diff. ok fixed
[Hard]
00:02:578 (3) - Move the last point to the left until it reaches its limit before breaking the slider, then move both of the middle points that make the curvature by two grids to the right each one so the curvature is right in the middle. This is the result, a neat symmetrical slider. nice tutorial, applied :3
00:05:390 (4,1) - 00:10:781 (7,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - 00:31:875 (1,4) - 00:34:687 (4,5) - Blankets that can be improved. I tried my best ;w; applied
[MBomb's Platter]
Nice overall, but I would suggest to... wait... idk anything about ctb :v
I may take another look at it if I see you keep working on it, and hopefully nominate it. My main concerns are the spread and the Easy diff. For now, good luck!

Thanks fur the mod, ezek!

Hythes

68 posts

Joined March 2016

Hythes 2017-08-23T13:20:06+00:00

Go Ranked OwO

ABD007

563 posts

Joined August 2016

ABD007 2017-08-26T10:09:31+00:00

Hard
Ctrl+g this 00:05:625 (1) - would be nice imo
also make this 00:07:031 (4) - sliderend stacked on this circle 00:05:390 (4) - is good
make this 00:43:593 (3) - stacked on sliderend 00:42:656 (4) - is nice

Normal
00:17:812 (3) - U can make this slider become 1/1 gap of circle since it have a big loud sound at sliderend 00:17:812 (3) - than this 00:19:687 (3) - .
unsuitable rhythm i think 00:28:828 (2) - , got clap sound on body of it , here too 00:06:328 (2) -

advance & easy is fine i think xD
glgl

-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-08-26T10:31:31+00:00

Kyousukee wrote:
Hard
Ctrl+g this 00:05:625 (1) - would be nice imo ok
also make this 00:07:031 (4) - sliderend stacked on this circle 00:05:390 (4) - is good nah, I dun want it, broke the blanket
make this 00:43:593 (3) - stacked on sliderend 00:42:656 (4) - is nice broke 00:42:187 (3,4) -

Normal
00:17:812 (3) - U can make this slider become 1/1 gap of circle since it have a big loud sound at sliderend 00:17:812 (3) - than this 00:19:687 (3) - . following previous and next pattern.
unsuitable rhythm i think 00:28:828 (2) - , got clap sound on body of it , here too 00:06:328 (2) - its fine.

advance & easy is fine i think xD
glgl

thanks for the mod.

Seijiro

osu! Alumni

3,438 posts

Joined April 2013

Seijiro 2017-08-31T08:19:58+00:00

Easy has a kinda high DS compared to the SV. Consider reducing DS overall (x1.50 is big no matter what SV you use anyway)

Rest looks fine..

Senery

698 posts

Joined March 2016

Senery 2017-08-31T16:57:57+00:00

NM from my queue

[Advanced]

00:39:140 (4) - blanket is off, move it down a bit

[Hard]

00:06:328 (3) - maybe use a half beat slider here and a circle on 00:06:796 - seems to fit a bit better because of the somewhat louder sound on the slider end(same with later ones)
00:19:687 (4) - reduce the gab here, its on a 1/16th tick

sorry for the short mod, everything looks fine

-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-09-01T10:00:30+00:00

Senery wrote:
NM from my queue

[Advanced]
00:39:140 (4) - blanket is off, move it down a bit ok
[Hard]
00:06:328 (3) - maybe use a half beat slider here and a circle on 00:06:796 - seems to fit a bit better because of the somewhat louder sound on the slider end(same with later ones) following stronger sound
00:19:687 (4) - reduce the gab here, its on a 1/16th tick still readable as 1/16 tho
sorry for the short mod, everything looks fine

thanks for the mod

MrSergio wrote:
Easy has a kinda high DS compared to the SV. Consider reducing DS overall (x1.50 is big no matter what SV you use anyway)

Rest looks fine..

I'll probaly going to ask other people, as I think it's not really that high as it's a slow BPM song and it doesn't contain a huge space imo.
thanks for checking through.

JBHyperion

osu!catch Paragon

3,922 posts

Joined September 2014

JBHyperion 2017-09-02T12:00:36+00:00

Random peek at catch diff because I'm bored I guess

MBomb's Platter

Not sure if this diff is intended to have default hitsounds but the standard ones have customs so I guess maybe you want this diff to have them too
00:15:000 (1,2) - Kinda of a pain to walk this after the previous hyper + direction change, but nor really big enough to indicate a dash. I feel a slightly larger spacing would be helpful here, since I assume you wanted to emphasise the pitch difference with the antiflow already anyway. If not, maybe make it similar to 00:11:250 (1,2) - in size
00:03:750 (1,2) - 00:07:500 (1,2) - In the same vein, I'd maybe reduce these a tiny bit further still so the player can become accustomed to the spacing early on in the map, and there's a feeling of progression later on as the distances become slightly bigger. Might help alleviate some of the monotony slightly
00:37:500 (1,2) - if you increased 00:15:000 (1,2) - maybe do the same thing here since the pattern repeats with (1) - being high pitch. Also get (1) away from the left border to avoid a potential flowstop thanks. 00:36:562 (3,4) - could maybe be separated a bit more to make room

Good luck! (:

MBomb

MBomb 2017-09-03T14:52:09+00:00

JBHyperion wrote:
Random peek at catch diff because I'm bored I guess

MBomb's Platter
Not sure if this diff is intended to have default hitsounds but the standard ones have customs so I guess maybe you want this diff to have them too - Sure, why not.
00:15:000 (1,2) - Kinda of a pain to walk this after the previous hyper + direction change, but nor really big enough to indicate a dash. I feel a slightly larger spacing would be helpful here, since I assume you wanted to emphasise the pitch difference with the antiflow already anyway. If not, maybe make it similar to 00:11:250 (1,2) - in size - Sure, increased slightly.
00:03:750 (1,2) - 00:07:500 (1,2) - In the same vein, I'd maybe reduce these a tiny bit further still so the player can become accustomed to the spacing early on in the map, and there's a feeling of progression later on as the distances become slightly bigger. Might help alleviate some of the monotony slightly - Sure, done.
00:37:500 (1,2) - if you increased 00:15:000 (1,2) - maybe do the same thing here since the pattern repeats with (1) - being high pitch. Also get (1) away from the left border to avoid a potential flowstop thanks. 00:36:562 (3,4) - could maybe be separated a bit more to make room - Alright, done.
Good luck! (:

Thanks for the mod!

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Shortthu

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Shortthu 2017-09-04T12:38:54+00:00

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-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-09-05T08:27:05+00:00

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

JBHyperion wrote:
Random peek at catch diff because I'm bored I guess

MBomb's Platter
Not sure if this diff is intended to have default hitsounds but the standard ones have customs so I guess maybe you want this diff to have them too - Sure, why not.
00:15:000 (1,2) - Kinda of a pain to walk this after the previous hyper + direction change, but nor really big enough to indicate a dash. I feel a slightly larger spacing would be helpful here, since I assume you wanted to emphasise the pitch difference with the antiflow already anyway. If not, maybe make it similar to 00:11:250 (1,2) - in size - Sure, increased slightly.
00:03:750 (1,2) - 00:07:500 (1,2) - In the same vein, I'd maybe reduce these a tiny bit further still so the player can become accustomed to the spacing early on in the map, and there's a feeling of progression later on as the distances become slightly bigger. Might help alleviate some of the monotony slightly - Sure, done.
00:37:500 (1,2) - if you increased 00:15:000 (1,2) - maybe do the same thing here since the pattern repeats with (1) - being high pitch. Also get (1) away from the left border to avoid a potential flowstop thanks. 00:36:562 (3,4) - could maybe be separated a bit more to make room - Alright, done.
Good luck! (:

Thanks for the mod!

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Updated~
where's your old profile pic MBomb I like the Skycreeper- one

Shortthu wrote:
Weber wrote:
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-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-09-08T09:01:21+00:00

had discuss with SawySavvy, thanks!

15:25 SawySavvy: All diffs or just a few ?
15:25 Error-: hm? mod?
15:26 SawySavvy: Aye
15:26 SawySavvy: For your Sans take :)
15:26 Error-: its up to you, but kinda need more mods for Easy and Normal, since it just remapped.
15:28 SawySavvy: I've never modded anything below 4 star before! I will give it a look though and share thoughts ^^ Not a real mod just me trying to practise
15:32 SawySavvy: Hmmmmmmm
15:32 SawySavvy: I suck at this xd
15:32 SawySavvy: But i guess the normal version is modded to the base yh ?
15:32 SawySavvy: Feels like it
15:32 SawySavvy: Since 90% of the map follows it with a few exceptions
15:32 SawySavvy: Or am i misstaken ?
15:33 Error-: I just use a pattern, which is repeating around the song plays.
15:33 SawySavvy: Not talking pattern here
15:33 SawySavvy: Talking rythm :)
15:34 Error-: ok then, define "yh" plz
15:34 SawySavvy: yh -> short version of yhea
15:34 SawySavvy: Sorry for my slacky english
15:35 SawySavvy: Lets start over
15:35 SawySavvy: What i noticed in the normal difficulty is that it seems. Looks like...That you mapped it following what the bass player is playing
15:35 Error-: lmao I thought yh is mapping-stuff
15:35 SawySavvy: But at a few instances you suddenly do not
15:35 SawySavvy: Sorry for that :)
15:35 Error-: yea I map the bass stuff
15:36 SawySavvy: Right
15:36 SawySavvy: Since that's your theme
15:36 SawySavvy: I think following it would be the way to go
15:36 SawySavvy: There are a few points where you ''skip'' what the bass player is doing
15:36 SawySavvy: I think he would get sad knowing that
15:36 SawySavvy: Or wait...Toby fox.
15:36 SawySavvy: Anyhow
15:36 Error-: that's intended
15:36 SawySavvy: 00:25:312 (3) -
15:36 SawySavvy: Rnadom example
15:36 Error-: to skip some part of the bass
15:36 SawySavvy: The way the bass is played here
15:37 SawySavvy: You have the second note on the end of the slider representing the second note of that part
15:37 SawySavvy: And you do it a lot
15:37 SawySavvy: Makes sense overall since you repeat the pattern (though it's kinda odd to use the end of a slider to represent a new note)
15:37 SawySavvy: 00:44:062 (3,4) -
15:37 SawySavvy: But then you have that
15:37 SawySavvy: Same sound
15:37 SawySavvy: In, imo, a much better way mapped
15:37 SawySavvy: But this happens what...Twice ?
15:37 SawySavvy: That you use 2x short sliders
15:37 SawySavvy: For that sound
15:37 SawySavvy: The rest is that long slider
15:37 Error-: well, as I said, its intended that I map things like that
15:38 SawySavvy: I would call it a conistency flaw, but you might have some idea behind it
15:38 SawySavvy: 00:06:328 (2) -
15:38 SawySavvy: What about those, they who peaked my interest the most
15:38 SawySavvy: Where you slider over bass events
15:38 SawySavvy: That white tick have a new note, mid slider
15:38 Error-: ok can I explain first?
15:39 SawySavvy: Ofc, just stop me at any time, i tend to write  A LOT and fast othervise
15:39 Error-: so... here, what I'm mapping is through the bass and stronger sound.
15:39 Error-: lemme copy some examples
15:39 SawySavvy: Aye sir
15:39 Error-: 00:03:750 (1,2,3) - 
15:40 SawySavvy: ^ Those 3 makes perfect sense imo
15:40 Error-: there, the stronger sounds are playing around with the notes, but before that I did 00:01:875 (1,2,3) - 
15:40 Error-: and the 00:03:515 (4) - means that what the note plays will changes,
15:41 Error-: and it goes again, again, and again around the songs, that's the base idea.
15:41 SawySavvy: That 4 also makes sense
15:41 SawySavvy: So why did you want to explain these that i did not comment on and that are overall good atm ?
15:41 SawySavvy: :o
15:42 SawySavvy: 00:06:328 (2) -
15:42 SawySavvy: That's one of the major problems i saw
15:42 SawySavvy: Imo that 2 should be 2 single taps, the 3 behind it
15:42 Error-: well uhh, I gave ya the base idea, I thought it might change your mind XD
15:42 SawySavvy: 00:07:031 (3) -
15:42 SawySavvy: That
15:42 SawySavvy: Is a long note
15:42 SawySavvy: That imo should be a slider :D
15:42 SawySavvy: Listen to it
15:42 SawySavvy: It makes more sense
15:42 SawySavvy: Since it's 3 notes there
15:42 SawySavvy: You mapped two
15:42 SawySavvy: Having the only long note as a single tap .-.
15:42 SawySavvy: With a pause behind it to compensate
15:42 Error-: 00:05:625 (1,2,3) - still following the stronger sounds and matches it with 00:03:750 (1,2,3) - 
15:43 Error-: 00:07:500 (1,2,3) - and here the stuff resets
15:43 Error-: I'm trying to create a 1/1 gap around the diff too so I don't have problems again with BNs XD
15:43 SawySavvy: Right
15:43 SawySavvy: At those notes i pointed out, you're swapping from the bass, and focus on the guitarr sounds instead
15:43 SawySavvy: Correct ?
15:44 Error-: yea
15:44 SawySavvy: In that case i would recomend a different ''style'' more visually and rythm based to compensate
15:44 SawySavvy: Cuz the 2 long sliders now look identical to how you map the normal bass
15:44 SawySavvy: For a normal player, they wont catch up on you swapping instrument for one combo
15:44 SawySavvy: I would rather play it safe and stick to the bass 100% instead of 95% :x
15:44 SawySavvy: But that's just my thoughts mind you
15:44 SawySavvy: I'm no BN
15:45 Error-: well, that's boring to map 100% bass xD
15:45 SawySavvy: Well yah
15:45 SawySavvy: But it's normal
15:45 SawySavvy: To be fair. normal IS booring
15:45 SawySavvy: It's ment for the player who just installed the game to understand the basics
15:45 SawySavvy: And to follow the same rythm for a 1 min
15:45 Error-: you might want to refer to ezek's mod in the thread
15:45 SawySavvy: Is prolly mind blowing enougha as it is
15:45 Error-: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6199925
15:45 SawySavvy: Did not read :o
15:45 SawySavvy: I shall
15:46 SawySavvy: All he wrote was that one chain was akward `?
15:46 Error-: It was before I remapped, and yea, that Easy diff is boring af.
15:46 Error-: and basically that's too boring, I have some trouble with it when asking BNs
15:46 SawySavvy: I'm talking about the normal diff .-.
15:46 Error-: I know
15:46 SawySavvy: mhm
15:46 Error-: and that linked with the boring stuff since you mention it
15:46 Error-: if I map 100% bass
15:47 SawySavvy: It would be booring
15:47 SawySavvy: But you would gain another achivement aswel
15:47 SawySavvy: ''Consistency''
15:47 SawySavvy: Either you go 100% or perhaps swap 80/20
15:47 SawySavvy: And make sure those 20 stands out and are consistent aswell
15:48 Error-: from what I learn when I was mapping Normal, focusing on one instrument will just makes another problem
15:48 SawySavvy: I'm not trying to tell you to focus on ONLY one instrument. I agree to it being booring. But since you kinda did it already
15:48 SawySavvy: I was surprised at the seemingly ''random event'' of a swap
15:49 SawySavvy: And then again
15:49 SawySavvy: 00:28:125 (1) -
15:49 Error-: ok, its kinda linked with almost everything with the swap stuff
15:49 SawySavvy: More sounds in that slider
15:49 SawySavvy: If you wanna map the guitarr there
15:49 SawySavvy: I noticed you loop it actually rather well
15:50 SawySavvy: Sooo
15:50 SawySavvy: If you wanna show that it's a new sound
15:50 SawySavvy: Brake the long slider pattern
15:50 SawySavvy: Reduce the 1 slider shown to the red tick
15:50 SawySavvy: Ad a single tap before the second slider
15:50 SawySavvy: And bam
15:50 SawySavvy: You have the guitarr more accurately mapped
15:50 Error-: for a better explaination..
15:50 SawySavvy: And an event that stands out a little bit more from the bass sections
15:50 Error-: would you map and screenshot the part?
15:50 SawySavvy: Np
15:51 Error-: its way more detail than this stuff xD
15:51 SawySavvy: https://puu.sh/xupEF/2a20a4f0ba.png
15:51 SawySavvy: Ingore the placement of the objects
15:51 SawySavvy: Ment to show what rythm i suggest
15:52 SawySavvy: You could even make the 4 there a red tick slider like...
15:52 SawySavvy: https://puu.sh/xupGs/fa5c415848.png
15:52 SawySavvy: If you wanted
15:52 SawySavvy: Since the last guitarr sound before said pause is a long note
15:52 Error-: I like the first one
15:52 SawySavvy: But as you wrote before, you might wanna keep the pause for a normal diff
15:52 SawySavvy: To let the player reset
15:52 Error-: will the the first one
15:52 Error-: sounds kinda good to me
15:53 Error-: do*
15:53 SawySavvy: Since you're mapping the guitarr there
15:53 SawySavvy: I think you have to make something similar to what i showed rythm wise
15:53 SawySavvy: Then compansate the visualls / distances aswell ofc
15:53 SawySavvy: My picture was just a random placed note :x
15:54 Error-: I will keep some like 00:14:062 (3) - to keep it simple
15:54 SawySavvy: Notice in my pictures, that all i did was to reduce the length of the first slider
15:54 SawySavvy: And added a single tap on the white tick instead
15:54 SawySavvy: Kept the second slider as was
15:54 Error-: I get it
15:54 SawySavvy: Anyhow
15:54 SawySavvy: This event happens twice
15:55 SawySavvy: Since this is 3 sections looped twice -> Songs end
15:55 SawySavvy: And it's at the end of the first/fourth section now
15:55 SawySavvy: 00:05:625 (1) -
15:55 Error-: I know I know
15:55 SawySavvy: So that's the other one, same treatment
15:55 SawySavvy: Other than that...This looks fancy
15:55 SawySavvy: 00:21:562 (3,4) -
15:55 SawySavvy: That event happens at the same time both times
15:55 SawySavvy: Overall you follow the base
15:55 SawySavvy: So yh
15:55 SawySavvy: Basic base line with 4 events over 1 min, sounds decent for a normal map :o
15:56 SawySavvy: I dont have much more to add, since i cant read structure nor flow on this star rate, i can only nitpick on things like this haha
15:56 SawySavvy: Best of luck to your map :)
15:56 Error-: ok lemme summarize this chat, https://puu.sh/xupGs/fa5c415848.png
15:57 Error-: feel free to drop this log so you get a kudos :d
15:57 SawySavvy: That nr4 slider there.
15:57 SawySavvy: Is not a must
15:57 SawySavvy: That 4 can be a single tap
15:57 SawySavvy: If you want to keep that pause
15:58 SawySavvy: I nitpicked one event mate, it's not kudos worthy :D
15:58 Error-: yea that nr4 slider will just broke some part of the spread too btw :p
15:58 SawySavvy: I just had fun trying to understand lower star stuff
15:58 Error-: basically that changes 2 events :p
15:58 SawySavvy: Mhm
15:58 SawySavvy: I like undertale and wanted to take a look on low star stuff. Win for me
15:58 SawySavvy: That's enough
15:58 SawySavvy: No kudos
15:59 SawySavvy: Have funz
15:59 Error-: I'll put the log to the thread bymyself then, so no kudos but I have a note for later mapping.
15:59 Error-: thanks for checking through :D
15:59 SawySavvy: Your thread, do as ye please

Nowaie

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Nowaie 2017-09-09T13:42:45+00:00

Heya, you can thank ezek since he showed this set to me

General

Having custom hitsounds for sliderticks is usually considered a bad thing but having a loud sound that emphasizes the middle of a slider is extremely irritating for anyone who is playing as there is something that you bring up as important enough to be hitsounded but not important enough to be mapped and after considerting that you are using the exactly same hitsound for beats that are mapped normally, i can not see anything about these hitsounds that would make the map better in any way. After inspecting the map for a while i can see that your map is mostly following the synthesizer through rhythm choice so i think it would be much, much better to emphasize that you are indeed focusing on those and just leave out the hitsounds completely (and possibly changing the slider tick rate to 1 to support this) as bringing up stuff you do not really follow when they are not supported by the basic rhythm in any of the difficulties above easy

Tags : sans the skeleton frisk character i really don't see a point in these tags. They do not really connect to the song itself and do not really help anyone to find this song (they'd basically search for sans or undertale which are already covered), sans_the_skeleton with the underscores would be sorta fine as it would be the name of the character but frisk or character don't really make sense. Though you might want to add some tags : radiation as that is one of the aliases toby uses (and most of the ranked undertale maps have it in the tags), chiptune the "real" genre of the song and soundtrack as some people search for that instead of "OST"

Easy

Having ~1.5x DS battles with the general idea that the speed the players move from object to another would match the speed of sliders to create mapping that is really easy and simple to follow which is kinda what easy difficulties should be about.

00:15:000 (1,2,3) - Aesthetically speaking it'd look nicer if the sliders would both be equally far from the hitcircle

00:37:500 (1,2,3) - This is quite a sharp angle which kinda makes the pattern look quite tightly placed. Imo a more "perfect triangle like" pattern would work better https://puu.sh/xuTuo/b69db9551f.png

Normal

I do not know have you noticed this but some of your stacks make the spacing really inconsistent. You can compare the highest spacing i found against the lowest 00:05:625 (1,2) - 00:20:625 (1,2) -. I would not be too concerned about the stacks that are increasing the spacing as they mostly feel exactly the same as any other stack but i would be concerned about the ones that notably decrease the spacing as they create overlaps 00:09:375 (1,2) - 00:11:250 (1,2) - that you are most likely trying to avoid with the high DS in general

00:18:750 (1,3) - 00:27:187 (3,5,6) - I don't really feel this kind of small and possibly unintentional overlapping is good for the structure either

Advanced

Since you are mapping an advanced (which is supposed to have aspects from normal and hard level difficulties) that has relatively similar rhythm when compared to the normal, you could spice up the rhythm by adding a bit more clickables here and there to match the synthesizer such as mapping this 00:07:968 - kind of beats or making a triple 00:18:281 (3,4) - here

00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - and 00:05:625 (1,2) - are quite different from any other pattern in the whole difficulty as they have extremely loose flow. Most of the time your mapping makes great and sense-making patterns but i just do not think these two are really on that level. By loose flow i mean stuff like all of the objects in this 00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - pattern try to create their own circular flow while all of the other objects fail to follow that. If you don't know what i mean i can visualize it for ya, just ask me

00:20:390 - 00:42:890 - Add a hitcircle for the consistency with literally any other pattern in the difficulty 00:12:187 (3,4) - for ex.

00:43:125 (4) - NC?

Hard

OD 7 is pretty high generally for hard difficulties, would recommend 6 or 6.5 (preferably 6). AR feels a bit high aswell and i would use 7.5 or 7 for hard difficulties generally. Right now it looks more like a low end insane rather than a hard diff stat wise

The rhythm feels really awkward for a hard. I thought the highest difficulty would generally use nearly everything the song offers to create an enjoyable experience. Imo currently this is really lacking on the "using everything" part time to time as stuff such as 00:04:218 - this kind of stuff happens constantly where you pretty much ignore a really strong beat (well not exactly ignoring but not giving it appropriate emphasis through rhythm choice) while you have mapped many many similar beats 00:04:453 (2) -pretty much "normally"

Since this is a hard you could consider stuff like spacing emphasis or atleast spacing stuff so it'd follow the song. 00:08:906 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd say this is the clearest pattern/melody that could use it. Simply the synthesizer changes on the 4 into much higher pitched notes when compared to the two first notes so you can basically divide that one pattern into two sections that are actually following different type of things 00:08:906 (1,2) - 00:09:375 (3,4,5,6) - (included 3 in the second synths as it's a strong beat). Considering that i do not thing it's a good idea to use similar spacing for those two nor is it a good idea that they are in the same pattern. For example i would use this https://puu.sh/xvqtU/35e417c898.png kind of patterning to show off the change of strength and beat pattern through spacing and patterning, Though i'd be more than happy if you would come up with your own pattern but that is there as an example

Continuing on ^ 00:12:890 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - for example here it makes more sense already but start the bigger spacing from this 00:13:359 (2) - as it is the first notably higher note. Also it would be consistent with other similar beats spacing wise (The 3 and 4 for example 00:13:359 (2,3,4) - )

00:19:687 (4,5) - Sorta appropriate 1/16 usage, good job fam. It doesn't feel painful to play even on DT

00:44:300 (1,2,3) - I just feel like the spacing gets too high here considering you most of the time use spacing that is barely above 2x but here it gets nearly up to 3x. Yeah it might be the final pattern but the melody does not change like that but rather stays relatively similar to any other part of the song

[]

I think this should be pretty much ready to go but i'd highly recommend considering making the rhythm bit harder on the advanced and on the hard as it would make the spread make more sense overall and make the difficulties actually stand a bit better for the difficulty level you are portraying through the name choice

Other than that, best of luck to you!

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-09-10T02:11:02+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Heya, you can thank ezek since he showed this set to me thanks ezek

General

Having custom hitsounds for sliderticks is usually considered a bad thing but having a loud sound that emphasizes the middle of a slider is extremely irritating for anyone who is playing as there is something that you bring up as important enough to be hitsounded but not important enough to be mapped and after considerting that you are using the exactly same hitsound for beats that are mapped normally, i can not see anything about these hitsounds that would make the map better in any way. After inspecting the map for a while i can see that your map is mostly following the synthesizer through rhythm choice so i think it would be much, much better to emphasize that you are indeed focusing on those and just leave out the hitsounds completely (and possibly changing the slider tick rate to 1 to support this) as bringing up stuff you do not really follow when they are not supported by the basic rhythm in any of the difficulties above easy

I don't really sure to agree with this, since I'm (mostly) following the stronger sound here, so I create a slider instead of a 1/2 slider and a circle or a circle instead to use the basic rhythm. Also I've seen a map with a hitsound in the middle of the slider like this.

Tags : sans the skeleton frisk character i really don't see a point in these tags. They do not really connect to the song itself and do not really help anyone to find this song (they'd basically search for sans or undertale which are already covered), sans_the_skeleton with the underscores would be sorta fine as it would be the name of the character but frisk or character don't really make sense. Though you might want to add some tags : radiation as that is one of the aliases toby uses (and most of the ranked undertale maps have it in the tags), chiptune the "real" genre of the song and soundtrack as some people search for that instead of "OST"

It was taken from the taiko set but ok then removed and added.

Easy

Having ~1.5x DS battles with the general idea that the speed the players move from object to another would match the speed of sliders to create mapping that is really easy and simple to follow which is kinda what easy difficulties should be about. I'll change to 1.3x I guess

00:15:000 (1,2,3) - Aesthetically speaking it'd look nicer if the sliders would both be equally far from the hitcircle

00:37:500 (1,2,3) - This is quite a sharp angle which kinda makes the pattern look quite tightly placed. Imo a more "perfect triangle like" pattern would work better https://puu.sh/xuTuo/b69db9551f.png
fixed all.

Normal

I do not know have you noticed this but some of your stacks make the spacing really inconsistent. You can compare the highest spacing i found against the lowest 00:05:625 (1,2) - 00:20:625 (1,2) -. I would not be too concerned about the stacks that are increasing the spacing as they mostly feel exactly the same as any other stack but i would be concerned about the ones that notably decrease the spacing as they create overlaps 00:09:375 (1,2) - 00:11:250 (1,2) - that you are most likely trying to avoid with the high DS in general fixed the one with overlap

00:18:750 (1,3) - 00:27:187 (3,5,6) - I don't really feel this kind of small and possibly unintentional overlapping is good for the structure either oops, fixed.

Advanced

Since you are mapping an advanced (which is supposed to have aspects from normal and hard level difficulties) that has relatively similar rhythm when compared to the normal, you could spice up the rhythm by adding a bit more clickables here and there to match the synthesizer such as mapping this 00:07:968 - kind of beats or making a triple 00:18:281 (3,4) - here changed that part and some other part

00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - and 00:05:625 (1,2) - are quite different from any other pattern in the whole difficulty as they have extremely loose flow. Most of the time your mapping makes great and sense-making patterns but i just do not think these two are really on that level. By loose flow i mean stuff like all of the objects in this 00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - pattern try to create their own circular flow while all of the other objects fail to follow that. If you don't know what i mean i can visualize it for ya, just ask me had no idea about it, any exmaple plz? tbh I was trying to make the beat simple there

00:20:390 - 00:42:890 - Add a hitcircle for the consistency with literally any other pattern in the difficulty 00:12:187 (3,4) - for ex. sure

00:43:125 (4) - NC? oops

Hard

OD 7 is pretty high generally for hard difficulties, would recommend 6 or 6.5 (preferably 6). AR feels a bit high aswell and i would use 7.5 or 7 for hard difficulties generally. Right now it looks more like a low end insane rather than a hard diff stat wise lmao ok fixed

The rhythm feels really awkward for a hard. I thought the highest difficulty would generally use nearly everything the song offers to create an enjoyable experience. Imo currently this is really lacking on the "using everything" part time to time as stuff such as 00:04:218 - this kind of stuff happens constantly where you pretty much ignore a really strong beat (well not exactly ignoring but not giving it appropriate emphasis through rhythm choice) while you have mapped many many similar beats 00:04:453 (2) -pretty much "normally"

Since this is a hard you could consider stuff like spacing emphasis or atleast spacing stuff so it'd follow the song. 00:08:906 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'd say this is the clearest pattern/melody that could use it. Simply the synthesizer changes on the 4 into much higher pitched notes when compared to the two first notes so you can basically divide that one pattern into two sections that are actually following different type of things 00:08:906 (1,2) - 00:09:375 (3,4,5,6) - (included 3 in the second synths as it's a strong beat). Considering that i do not thing it's a good idea to use similar spacing for those two nor is it a good idea that they are in the same pattern. For example i would use this https://puu.sh/xvqtU/35e417c898.png kind of patterning to show off the change of strength and beat pattern through spacing and patterning, Though i'd be more than happy if you would come up with your own pattern but that is there as an example

Continuing on ^ 00:12:890 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - for example here it makes more sense already but start the bigger spacing from this 00:13:359 (2) - as it is the first notably higher note. Also it would be consistent with other similar beats spacing wise (The 3 and 4 for example 00:13:359 (2,3,4) - )
Rearranged based on your explaination.

00:19:687 (4,5) - Sorta appropriate 1/16 usage, good job fam. It doesn't feel painful to play even on DT Thanks~

00:44:300 (1,2,3) - I just feel like the spacing gets too high here considering you most of the time use spacing that is barely above 2x but here it gets nearly up to 3x. Yeah it might be the final pattern but the melody does not change like that but rather stays relatively similar to any other part of the song
Fixed

[]

I think this should be pretty much ready to go but i'd highly recommend considering making the rhythm bit harder on the advanced and on the hard as it would make the spread make more sense overall and make the difficulties actually stand a bit better for the difficulty level you are portraying through the name choice

Other than that, best of luck to you!

Thanks for the mod~

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2017-09-10T11:53:01+00:00

Error- wrote:
DTM9 Nowa wrote:
00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - and 00:05:625 (1,2) - are quite different from any other pattern in the whole difficulty as they have extremely loose flow. Most of the time your mapping makes great and sense-making patterns but i just do not think these two are really on that level. By loose flow i mean stuff like all of the objects in this 00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - pattern try to create their own circular flow while all of the other objects fail to follow that. If you don't know what i mean i can visualize it for ya, just ask me had no idea about it, any exmaple plz? tbh I was trying to make the beat simple there

Most of the time your mapping forms clear patterns 00:11:250 (1,2,3) - or have flow that is pretty much as good as it gets 00:28:828 (3,4) - (Visualized) but on those two patterns neither of the two points really happen. Them not exactly begin a pattern is much easier to understand but the flow may be a bit harder thing, on the first pattern i mentioned 00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - i feel the objects are all trying to create their own flow, 00:01:875 (1) - begin most blatant in this, through the sliderbodies. After more closely inspecting this 00:00:937 (3,4,2) - these three feel like they are "connected" by the way they are placed and what kind of movement you are forming with the object placement but you have completely left 00:01:875 (1) - out from that idea as it's trying to be in that same curve as the other objects but the result is much closer to this https://puu.sh/xwaID/48bb3a608e.png, 00:05:625 (1,2) - has a somewhat similar issue but it's not as visible https://puu.sh/xwaRy/bfb6533154.png. It's most of the time better to make that kind of patterns really polished in that way or completely scrap the idea of the flow continuing like that.

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-09-13T13:42:52+00:00

Will work on it this friday, school's killing me ;w;

-Keitaro

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Joined October 2013

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-Keitaro 2017-09-15T06:45:50+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
Most of the time your mapping forms clear patterns 00:11:250 (1,2,3) - or have flow that is pretty much as good as it gets 00:28:828 (3,4) - (Visualized) but on those two patterns neither of the two points really happen. Them not exactly begin a pattern is much easier to understand but the flow may be a bit harder thing, on the first pattern i mentioned 00:00:937 (3,4,1,2) - i feel the objects are all trying to create their own flow, 00:01:875 (1) - begin most blatant in this, through the sliderbodies. After more closely inspecting this 00:00:937 (3,4,2) - these three feel like they are "connected" by the way they are placed and what kind of movement you are forming with the object placement but you have completely left 00:01:875 (1) - out from that idea as it's trying to be in that same curve as the other objects but the result is much closer to this https://puu.sh/xwaID/48bb3a608e.png, 00:05:625 (1,2) - has a somewhat similar issue but it's not as visible https://puu.sh/xwaRy/bfb6533154.png. It's most of the time better to make that kind of patterns really polished in that way or completely scrap the idea of the flow continuing like that.

ok I get this stuff
edit up 00:05:625 (1) - so it looks better
change most of things in 00:00:937 (3,4,1) - so it flows better.

oh I haven't answer this

The rhythm feels really awkward for a hard. I thought the highest difficulty would generally use nearly everything the song offers to create an enjoyable experience. Imo currently this is really lacking on the "using everything" part time to time as stuff such as 00:04:218 - this kind of stuff happens constantly where you pretty much ignore a really strong beat (well not exactly ignoring but not giving it appropriate emphasis through rhythm choice) while you have mapped many many similar beats 00:04:453 (2) -pretty much "normally"

just to make sure I also map the background bass so it kinda match with something like 00:03:750 (1) - imo and I don't really sure to make 00:04:218 - clickable as it feels awkward when it comes to playing as it almost the same as others before like 00:00:937 (4) - 00:01:875 (1) - ...etc.

MBomb

MBomb 2017-10-03T22:34:16+00:00

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ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-04T05:11:35+00:00

hello again~ ezek rechecking~

[General]

There's a higher quality image provided by the artist you linked in the description, here it is.
You can use a custom diffname for your Hard if you want, as long as it is related to the song ofc~

[Easy]

00:20:156 (2,3) - 00:31:875 (3,4) - blankets that can be improved

[Normal]

00:20:625 (1,2) - Your spacing is 1.6x and here you're using 1.45x, which makes an overlap~ seems the stacking is causing it, so you should disable distance snap and use the correct spacing manually~ be sure to check
00:30:703 (2,3) - 00:35:625 (1,2) - 00:39:375 (1,2) - kinda the same, they're not overlapping but they just look too close
00:31:875 (1,2) - these ones are the opposite, you need to reduce that spacing a little~ don't forget to recheck distance everywhere after making this kind of movements~
00:05:625 (1,2) - whoa, this is already a small jump ._.

Well, have a second look by yourself, just look at the spacing object by object if you see a suspicious spacing at first glance~ It's okay if the spacing is a bit off in many notes as long as you can't actually notice~

[Advanced]

00:00:703 (2,3) - 00:27:187 (3,4) - blankets
00:05:625 (1) - check the normal diff, it's using a denser rhythm than this, you should either use a lighter rhythm on normal or at least make this one the same as in normal cuz this diff is supposed to be tougher
00:18:281 (3,4,5) - having this 1/4 triplet here would make this part of the mas just as dense as the hard diff, I believe it's okay to use that 1/4, but it would be better as a stack rather than a stream form to make more contrast with the Hard~
00:40:781 (3,4,5) - you know

[Hard]

00:10:781 (5,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - blankets

Nice overall, I'm just not a fan of the Hard diff's design somehow. I would like to hear Monstrata's opinion before I deem the map worthy of nomination, just to be sure that this is okay because even bns need second opinions sometimes, you know. He gave a star icon to this map after all~ We're close, boi!

-Keitaro

1,013 posts

Joined October 2013

Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-10-04T08:35:32+00:00

ezek wrote:
hello again~ ezek rechecking~

[General]
There's a higher quality image provided by the artist you linked in the description, here it is. skeleton boi.png
You can use a custom diffname for your Hard if you want, as long as it is related to the song ofc~ have no idea about it rip
[Easy]
00:20:156 (2,3) - 00:31:875 (3,4) - blankets that can be improved
[Normal]
00:20:625 (1,2) - Your spacing is 1.6x and here you're using 1.45x, which makes an overlap~ seems the stacking is causing it, so you should disable distance snap and use the correct spacing manually~ be sure to check
00:30:703 (2,3) - 00:35:625 (1,2) - 00:39:375 (1,2) - kinda the same, they're not overlapping but they just look too close
00:31:875 (1,2) - these ones are the opposite, you need to reduce that spacing a little~ don't forget to recheck distance everywhere after making this kind of movements~
00:05:625 (1,2) - whoa, this is already a small jump ._.
Well, have a second look by yourself, just look at the spacing object by object if you see a suspicious spacing at first glance~ It's okay if the spacing is a bit off in many notes as long as you can't actually notice~ boop I just realize this lol. Fixed all, hopefully it doesn't really a big prob now

[Advanced]
00:00:703 (2,3) - 00:27:187 (3,4) - blankets
00:05:625 (1) - check the normal diff, it's using a denser rhythm than this, you should either use a lighter rhythm on normal or at least make this one the same as in normal cuz this diff is supposed to be tougher follow normal and 2nd part
00:18:281 (3,4,5) - having this 1/4 triplet here would make this part of the mas just as dense as the hard diff, I believe it's okay to use that 1/4, but it would be better as a stack rather than a stream form to make more contrast with the Hard~
00:40:781 (3,4,5) - you know i know
[Hard]
00:10:781 (5,1) - 00:27:187 (4,5) - blankets :eyes:
Nice overall, I'm just not a fan of the Hard diff's design somehow. I would like to hear Monstrata's opinion before I deem the map worthy of nomination, just to be sure that this is okay because even bns need second opinions sometimes, you know. He gave a star icon to this map after all~ We're close, boi! Is this about the first triangle pattern lol, but yea, I would like to hear Monstrata suggestion too.

applied all
im bad at blankets
WAIT I ACCIDENTALLY GIVE KUDOS
FML will ask a mod to deny
or I guess BN's can deny kudos, right?

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

some hitsound changes with az

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16,192,28593,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,28828,2,0,L|432:192,2,100,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
504,192,29531,2,0,P|480:152|408:144,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,30000,5,8,0:0:0:0:
384,192,30468,2,0,L|272:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
488,192,30937,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,31406,2,0,L|368:192,1,100
152,192,31875,5,2,0:0:0:0:
356,192,32109,2,0,L|460:192,1,100
336,192,32578,2,0,L|448:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,192,33046,2,0,L|128:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,192,33515,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,192,33750,5,8,0:0:0:0:
80,192,34218,2,0,L|208:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,192,34687,1,2,0:0:0:0:
180,192,35156,2,0,L|292:192,1,100
88,192,35625,5,2,0:0:0:0:
384,192,35859,2,0,L|496:192,2,100,2|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,192,36562,2,0,L|288:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,192,37031,2,0,L|296:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
8,192,37500,5,8,0:0:0:0:
304,192,37968,2,0,L|424:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,192,38437,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,192,38906,2,0,L|248:192,1,100
472,192,39375,5,2,0:0:0:0:
168,192,39609,2,0,L|40:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,192,40078,2,0,L|384:192,2,100,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,192,40781,2,0,L|96:192,2,50,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
464,192,41250,5,8,0:0:0:0:
192,192,41718,2,0,L|320:192,1,100,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,192,42187,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,192,42656,2,0,L|420:192,1,100
192,192,43125,5,2,0:0:0:0:
496,192,43359,2,0,P|480:144|416:120,2,100,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,192,44062,1,2,0:0:0:0:
496,192,44296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,44531,1,2,0:0:0:0:
168,192,44765,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,192,45000,5,4,0:0:0:0:
280,192,45468,2,0,L|280:88,1,100
416,192,45937,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,192,46406,2,0,L|216:88,1,100
352,192,46875,5,2,0:0:0:0:
152,192,47343,1,0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,47812,1,2,0:0:0:0:
184,192,48280,1,0,0:0:0:0:

updated. owo

Last edited by -Keitaro 2017-10-05T09:37:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

ZekeyHache

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ZekeyHache 2017-10-04T13:53:11+00:00

well, the kudos is actually fine~ it's valid since there's a diff that wasn't here the first time I came lol (just be sure to not do it a third time 👀)
also, if you're just gonna apply everything in a mod and don't give any comments, I suggest to not quote the mod cuz you're just taking unnecessary space 👀

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-10-05T09:38:35+00:00

ezek wrote:
well, the kudos is actually fine~ it's valid since there's a diff that wasn't here the first time I came lol (just be sure to not do it a third time 👀)
also, if you're just gonna apply everything in a mod and don't give any comments, I suggest to not quote the mod cuz you're just taking unnecessary space 👀

Was about to edit but forgot
Edited with comments.
Funny how forum shows 1 edit only even I did 2 edits

Uta

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Joined December 2016

Uta 2017-10-06T07:16:05+00:00

rank thisssss fastttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Electoz

1,886 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2017-10-06T12:21:31+00:00

Requested like half a month ago

[Easy]

00:25:781 (4,1) - DS

[Normal]

00:23:437 (3,1) - 00:30:937 (3,1) - DS
00:22:500 (1) - Fix sliderend pls
00:28:125 (4) - NC
00:13:125 (1,2,3,4) - This has the same rhythm as 00:09:375 (1,2,3,4) but the song is not, so a different set of rhythms should be used in order to differentiate the whole measure 00:13:125 from 00:09:375 .
00:31:875 (1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,3) - Same as above, though I wouldn't call leaving 00:37:265 empty as a differentiation.

[Advanced]

00:02:578 (2,3) - DS
00:20:390 (4,2) - An untidy overlap, like overlaps are fine but it looks untidy/stand out when you don't usually do them anywhere else.

[Hard]

00:09:843 (3,4) - 1.4 spacing doesn't seem intentional.
00:01:875 (1,2,3) - 00:24:375 (1,2,3,4) - And I don't get why you handled spacings differently considering the rhythms are the same.
00:09:375 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:875 (1,2,3,4) - Same as above.
00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would be nice if you can have a more consistent idea on these patterns when the rhythms are the same, referring to the way you grouped up objects with combos and patterns (aka the first one you grouped the rhythm with 4 objects and the latter with 2 which idk why)
00:19:453 (3,4) - 00:41:953 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacings?
00:43:125 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Comboing aside, I don't get what's your idea on the pattern, the whole thing gave me the impression that objects are randomly placed (I'm telling you to at least try making patterns like 00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) which are more visually obvious) , also:
1. 00:20:859 (2,3,4) - Okay so you intended to group these sounds together as 3 objects but you didn't do the same at the end? And both places are like spaced in an entirely different way 00:43:359 (2,3,4) -
2. 00:42:656 (4,3) - Overlap should be cleaned up.
3. 00:44:062 (5,1) - Swap NC.

[MBomb's Platter]

00:10:546 (4) - 00:33:046 (4,5) - The song is looped two times but this is the only instance where your rhythms are different between these two loops lol in case you care
00:32:109 (2,3) - Would be nice if you can differentiate these two considering the rhythms on these sliders are not quite the same. Using 2 circles instead of 00:32:578 (3) or some changes in the flow like what you did with 00:10:078 (3) could also work.

aaa not interested + there's like 2-3 BNs already looking at this set so I don't think I have to involve in nomination process so there's that
good luck~

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-10-06T13:13:28+00:00

Electoz wrote:
Requested like half a month ago

[Hard]

00:09:843 (3,4) - 1.4 spacing doesn't seem intentional.
00:01:875 (1,2,3) - 00:24:375 (1,2,3,4) - And I don't get why you handled spacings differently considering the rhythms are the same. I tried to make the 2nd part harder than the first part becouse people will already know what will the rhythm be, so people can already adjust with the spacing for the 2nd part jumps stuffs.
00:09:375 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:875 (1,2,3,4) - Same as above. ^
00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would be nice if you can have a more consistent idea on these patterns when the rhythms are the same, referring to the way you grouped up objects with combos and patterns (aka the first one you grouped the rhythm with 4 objects and the latter with 2 which idk why) I don't really sure this is a big issue imo, since its kinda boring to have the same idea of the jump so I create a variation for it.
00:19:453 (3,4) - 00:41:953 (2,3) - Inconsistent spacings?
00:43:125 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - Comboing aside, I don't get what's your idea on the pattern, the whole thing gave me the impression that objects are randomly placed (I'm telling you to at least try making patterns like 00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) which are more visually obvious) , also:
00:20:859 (2,3,4) - Okay so you intended to group these sounds together as 3 objects but you didn't do the same at the end? And both places are like spaced in an entirely different way 00:43:359 (2,3,4) -
00:42:656 (4,3) - Overlap should be cleaned up.
00:44:062 (5,1) - Swap NC.
okay then I would use the same as 00:20:625 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - except different spacing.
aaa not interested + there's like 2-3 BNs already looking at this set so I don't think I have to involve in nomination process so there's that
good luck~

thanks for dropping by~

MBomb

MBomb 2017-10-10T20:24:29+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[MBomb's Platter]

00:10:546 (4) - 00:33:046 (4,5) - The song is looped two times but this is the only instance where your rhythms are different between these two loops lol in case you care - Essentially the same the second doesn't have a direction change and because of how sliders work, I couldn't have a reverse slider that doesn't change direction.
00:32:109 (2,3) - Would be nice if you can differentiate these two considering the rhythms on these sliders are not quite the same. Using 2 circles instead of 00:32:578 (3) or some changes in the flow like what you did with 00:10:078 (3) could also work. - I feel like the current flow change is enough to distinguish them.
aaa not interested + there's like 2-3 BNs already looking at this set so I don't think I have to involve in nomination process so there's that
good luck~

Thanks for the check!

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-10-15T04:57:44+00:00

Hello, someone's here? 👀
(is AZ already contact you MBomb?)

ZekeyHache

3,316 posts

Joined October 2009

ZekeyHache 2017-10-19T19:04:34+00:00

Error- wrote:
Hello, someone's here? 👀

yes, your mom

[Hard]

00:10:781 (5,1) - This blankets is very off, you can stop at the blue tick between the two objects to use the approach circle as reference to make it better, like this.

Let's have a look at your answer to Electoz~
Error- wrote:

Electoz wrote:

00:01:875 (1,2,3) - 00:24:375 (1,2,3,4) - And I don't get why you handled spacings differently considering the rhythms are the same. I tried to make the 2nd part harder than the first part becouse people will already know what will the rhythm be, so people can already adjust with the spacing for the 2nd part jumps stuffs.
00:09:375 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:875 (1,2,3,4) - Same as above. ^

Both points are pretty much the same. First you map a rhythm without jumps and then you do jumps on the next time the rhythm happens. This creates variety in the map, which should be good; however, I don't think making this variety in this song. You see, the song's intensity and pace is the same all the time and there's nothing that could feel like burst of intensity that supports such change. So I highly suggest to be consistent. I'd go for making them all jumps since you already have an advanced diff and there shouldn't be a problem with the spread because of the normal diff.

Then we have this
Error- wrote:

Electoz wrote:

00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would be nice if you can have a more consistent idea on these patterns when the rhythms are the same, referring to the way you grouped up objects with combos and patterns (aka the first one you grouped the rhythm with 4 objects and the latter with 2 which idk why) I don't really sure this is a big issue imo, since its kinda boring to have the same idea of the jump so I create a variation for it.

This point seems to be valid as well~ You should at least be consistent with the combos. The first pattern looks weird compared to the second one. The second one is very pretty and organized while the other has different combos and the spacing is different, so you should at least go with a similar pattern/concept on the first one if you don't wanna do the same pattern.

Electoz may be a catch only BN at the moment, but he also has the skills of a standard BN~

-Keitaro

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Topic Starter

-Keitaro 2017-10-20T06:47:02+00:00

ezek wrote:
[Hard]

Error- wrote:
Electoz wrote:
00:13:125 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 00:35:625 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Would be nice if you can have a more consistent idea on these patterns when the rhythms are the same, referring to the way you grouped up objects with combos and patterns (aka the first one you grouped the rhythm with 4 objects and the latter with 2 which idk why) I don't really sure this is a big issue imo, since its kinda boring to have the same idea of the jump so I create a variation for it.

This point seems to be valid as well~ You should at least be consistent with the combos. The first pattern looks weird compared to the second one. The second one is very pretty and organized while the other has different combos and the spacing is different, so you should at least go with a similar pattern/concept on the first one if you don't wanna do the same pattern. okay I decided to do the same with a lil bit change, but their pattern should looks the same~

Electoz may be a catch only BN at the moment, but he also has the skills of a standard BN~ Electoz std BN when

ok then, I apply all so yea, updated~