Damaree wrote:

I want to write/put my thoughts in this map:

Manga(lol no other name?)

1. 00:55:095 (55095|2,55276|2,55458|2,55640|2) - , 00:56:185 (56185|3,56367|3,56549|3,56731|3,56913|3) - , 00:58:004 (58004|1,58185|1,58367|1) - <--might ok, 00:59:276 (59276|0,59458|0,59640|0,59822|0) - , 01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) - what are your reason for doing lots, not-matched in others of stacks in here? doing 3-stacks is unevitable but 4-5 stacks? there's no repeating(pitch maybe?) sound happened in here so really confusing. In this part, I am exactly dealing with pitch stuff, and your assumption is correct. So i would like to keep
   
   but taking those stacks in consideration, im gonna also question those things. . . im gonna assume that those stacks are for vocals?
   In center part: |2|3|
2. 00:55:095 (55095|2,55276|2,55458|2,55640|2) - , 4-stacks while 00:58:004 (58004|1,58185|1,58367|1) - 3-stacks
   In L & R part: |1|4|
3. 00:56:185 (56185|3,56367|3,56549|3,56731|3,56913|3) -, 5-stacks while 00:59:276 (59276|0,59458|0,59640|0,59822|0) - 4-stacks, theyre inconsistent actually 2nd part of chorus/kiai
4. 01:06:731 (66731|3,66913|3,67095|3,67276|3) - 4-stack, 01:08:004 (68004|3,68185|3,68367|3,68549|3) - also 4, so they're in the same col now? unlike in 1st part/kiai that you do is in col3 then in col4?
5. 01:09:640 (69640|1,69822|1,70004|1) - 3-stacks, 01:10:913 (70913|0,71095|0,71276|0,71458|0) - 4-stacks, theyre following of what you do in 1st part/kiai but inconsistent in stacking i assume?
   
   OK, so if you are critically arguing about these stacks, I might be changing them, even though they dont seem to be a big issue, but considering your second part, i will change sth there.
   
   The last and confusing part
6. 01:00:913 (60913|2,61095|2,61276|2,61458|2,61640|2) - this is 1st part, u make it a 5-stack while in 2nd part 01:12:367 - the stacks are now gone and u did it in 01:12:913 (72913|1,73095|1,73276|1,73458|2,73640|2,73822|2) - and its divided now into 2 parts. . . so what are there really???
   
   01:12:367 - hsa no stack cuz 01:12:731 - here no vocal, and that's why it's divided. You can easily see it owo

Well these parts are just minor(maybe?) and suggestion

1. 01:06:367 - theres no note in here while the Hard theres one. . . and its worth to do double in it https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9065288 (Left from Mange diff and Right from Hard diff) you see, 01:06:367 - It's not as needed, but considering the fact that i indeed use doubles for such thing b4, i doubled all 4 points of LNs then.
2. 00:46:913 (46913|1,47095|2) - ctrl + h, alternation of 00:44:004 (44004|1,44185|2) - however, i am following the pitch
   Some Unmatched w/Hard diff [Left - Manga, Right - Hard]
3. 00:29:822 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9065305
4. 00:33:095 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9065309
5. 00:33:822 -
6. 00:35:640 -
7. 00:50:549 - ^^ see it for urself(out of screenshots lol)
   Dunno where's the actual problem in here, maybe discuss this even more
   
   Basically according to my understandings we have completely different mapping concepts.
   Emiria treated normal notes as drums and LNs as extra sound that add on the drum, this isnt wrong imo, so that's why you will see he might have triples, but the normal notes amount is always kept the same.
   I treated normal notes and LNs together cuz they both represent a part of the impact players will feel. So the total amount of notes on each point of mine is kept the same.
   Do you see my ideas？

Well thats it, I dont actually/usually doing this in qualify section(maybe im just bored so trying to do it lol) and im not against(slightly) with those, hope u wont hate me w/this onegaii *peace sign*. Hmm and also depends of your reply if im gonna reply back to respond those of yours or not. . .

Maxus wrote:

a lil bit chat :3

21:50 Maxus: have time now? :3
21:50 Tofu1222: yep, feel free to start owo
21:51 Maxus: 00:40:185 - for minor thing first, i think this should be double since its same sound as 00:38:185 - 
21:52 Maxus: 00:54:231 (54231|1,54322|2) - i think you started the burst wrong here, since i'm sure the piano burst started at 00:54:367 - 
21:53 Tofu1222: 00:37:276 - should i double this too?
21:53 Tofu1222: 00:38:731 - and this
21:53 Maxus: no, they both really different in volume
21:53 Maxus: its like i notice immediately 00:40:185 - is lot stronger
21:54 Maxus: 00:55:095 - may i know first how you planning on making the stack? i mean what instru you try to stack here?
21:54 Maxus: so i could grasp your idea first here
21:55 Tofu1222: OK, makes sense
21:55 Tofu1222: btw, what should i do with my hitsound in the burst if i delete some?
21:55 Tofu1222: the stacks are for vocal pitch
21:55 Tofu1222: quite easy to follow then
21:55 Maxus: make the 1/4 at 00:54:185 - 00:54:276 - no hitsound, and started piano hs at 00:54:367 - ?
21:56 Maxus: does it will connect with piano?
21:56 Maxus: for myself, 00:55:095 - doesn't really reflect the vocal stack here, it's different with 00:58:004 - where the "kimino" can be stacked
21:57 Tofu1222: 00:55:095 (55095|2,55276|2,55458|2,55640|2,55822|1,56004|0,56185|1,56367|3,56549|3,56731|3,56913|3) -
21:57 Maxus: while the very first vocal in kiai it only like have 1 syllabel at 00:55:276 - 
21:57 Tofu1222: sth i was following
21:58 Maxus: you said its for vocal pitch?
21:58 Tofu1222: yep
21:58 Maxus: bcause it does felt 00:55:095 (55095|2,55276|2,55458|2,55640|2) - doesn't sync with what the vocal said
21:59 Maxus: so it kinda bring confusion imo
21:59 Maxus: 00:58:004 - this is already fit as it is, because the vocal with jack synchronize
22:02 Maxus: well for stack only this and 01:00:913 - doesn't fit imo , the rest of your stack already fit and doesnt need change
22:03 Tofu1222: do you have any suggested patterns?
22:03 Maxus: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9067000 for 00:55:095 - 
22:04 Maxus: and for 01:01:276 (61276|2) - , move to col 4 , and 01:01:822 (61822|1) - to col 1 to synchronize with vocal
22:04 Maxus: the rest of it is already fit
22:05 Tofu1222: oh
22:05 Tofu1222: so you mean shi is a light sound so doesnt have any pitch?
22:06 Maxus: well for vocal that's light and doesn't audible enough imo
22:06 Tofu1222: such kind of light sounds should be moved to other places, right？
22:07 Maxus: yeah, but tbh only those places i find "too light" for you to jack them
22:07 Maxus: sagashite while shi quite light, but it still intertwined to connect the pattern, so i can still agree with that
22:08 Tofu1222: then how about my piano keysound lul should i delete hitsounds on them if they have no pitch?
22:08 Maxus: 00:55:458 - you can delete piano hitsound here, it provides break i think fit the map
22:09 Maxus: 01:01:276 - and also here no piano hs
22:09 Maxus: the rest of it doesn't need change
22:09 Tofu1222: OK owo
22:10 Maxus: if others question it, tell what i said xd for break coz its really small
22:12 Maxus: 01:17:549 - 01:17:640 - kinda sad you didn't map drum here.. its like really audible :<
22:12 Tofu1222: i understand your idea, it follows logic owo
22:14 Maxus: yeah your concept is great, only need some tweak so it emphasize vocal better xd
22:15 Tofu1222: i think 01:17:549 - 01:17:640 - without these two things will be more neat
22:16 Maxus: the same reason you don't want map 01:26:185 - 1/3 here too?
22:16 Maxus: since i thought the drum is the final feature in the map
22:17 Tofu1222: exactly
22:17 Maxus: 01:22:367 - well, i know there's second "A" here and you map this in other diff too, but it's a bit confusing you don't map more audible vocal xd
22:20 Maxus: ah sorry dc  again
22:20 Maxus: what i propose is http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9067125 , this way you don't need to tweak your pattern much
22:21 Maxus: and at the same time you map 3 "a a a" vocal with LN which do emphasize the artist better
22:22 Tofu1222: hmm
22:22 Tofu1222: oh
22:22 Tofu1222: yea
22:22 Tofu1222: i get your idea
22:23 Maxus: you may apply it on other of your diff as well to fit the consistency
22:23 Tofu1222: yep
22:24 Maxus: okay... now for normal diff
22:24 *Maxus is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1273381 ClariS - Hitorigoto -TV MIX- [Normal]]
22:29 Maxus: 00:14:185 (14185|3,14549|3,14913|3,15276|3,15640|3,16004|3) - personally i find the stack is too long here, compared with 00:16:731 - only 4 stack, and your stack doesn't even too long anymore at 00:19:640 - 
22:30 Maxus: 00:15:276 - i think you can break the stack here
22:30 Maxus: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9067208
22:31 Tofu1222: OK
22:31 Tofu1222: nice idea
22:32 Maxus: 00:40:185 - while i know you want to make stair here, but the 1/2 shield with 2 LN makes it an oddity to hit in normal diff imo
22:33 Maxus: i will say 4-3-4-1 will make the pattern lot more neater and nice to hit :3
22:37 Maxus: 01:02:731 (62731|1,62913|2) - i think you can make this 3-2 , this way you will make 3-1-3 trill that synchronize with the trill you made at 01:03:095 (63095|0,63276|3,63458|0) - 
22:38 Tofu1222: OK owo
22:41 Maxus: 01:13:822 - make this trill too? to make it consistent with what you did at 01:02:185 - and 01:02:913 - 
22:42 Tofu1222: done
22:43 Maxus: ok done, and for easy diff
22:43 *Maxus is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1273379 ClariS - Hitorigoto -TV MIX- [Easy]]
22:44 Maxus: 00:44:004 (44004|0,44185|1) - i think this is 2-3 is better, since these notes are exactly below 00:44:731 (44731|0,44731|1) - , so it kinda makes alternating bit difficult for lowest diff
22:47 Tofu1222: ahh yes make sense owo
22:48 Maxus: basically just that i think xd, its really solidly structure :3

Good luck for push this again, really solid map.

Julie wrote:

We have a lots of chat about the mp3 and some snap with maxus,I supose maxus already mention the snapping part, but the other concern about the mp3 is that I'm actually really suprise there is some instrument that are barely audible while it was perfectly audible on other mp3. Not saying that other mp3 are better, but it force me to check the actual mp3 from the album.
So here a view on yours vs the album one.


Since you went instant offline after asking x.x....

Damaree wrote:

Here I am again. . . for. . . another. . . check i now regret doing salty things in quali section, lot of work *cries in japanese*

As I read ur respond (i even ready Maxus post arrg mind blow again), so ur following vocal pitch things in here(if not mistaken). After checking ur new update, i did sum clarifications as u told me in PM forum owo. . .

1. 00:56:913 (56913|1,57095|1) - clearly no pitch here, what im against is the achors is this called if not mistaken? 00:56:913 (56913|1,57095|1,57276|1) - advanced players will be forced to tapped the 1/2 jacks 2 times and an LN after that, maybe u can do something about this fair points, changed for all you have mentioned
   
2. 00:58:004 (58004|1,58185|1,58367|1,58549|1) - back to this, so u do vocal ptich here(as i read the mods after mine and ur respond) so gonna analyze what the singer pronounce. . . 00:58:004 (58004|1,58185|1,58367|1) - well sure this fits a pitch coz of the 1 word "kimino" but 00:58:549 (58549|1) - doenst synch with the vocal anymore, its already changes here and it already combines w/00:58:549 (58549|1,58731|2,58913|1) - or 00:58:549 (58549|1,58731|2) - of the word "egawo-o" sorry, but i dont mean to divide them up to each words, but only on vocal pitches, as it keeps the pitch, i would stack one note of them
   
3. 01:06:731 (66731|3,66913|3,67095|3,67276|3) - 01:08:004 (68004|3,68185|3,68367|3,68549|3) - u havent done w/this, not against w/stacks(kinda) but theyre in the same column. i testplay it like twice/trice and i force my right hand (col4) to tap many time and that would cause some advanced players to get missed here, for me kinda strained, so what I suggest here is. . . 01:06:731 (66731|3,66913|3,67095|3,67276|3) - just do this in col3 like you did in the previous parts for the flow, also just do 01:06:185 (66185|2,66367|3) - ctrl + j in this and rearrange the pattern below. i know the pattern/flow u prefer would be ruined but if its for the sake of comfortability, it would still worth fixed
   
4. 01:08:549 (68549|1,68731|1) - mention in my 1st
   
5. 01:06:731 (66731|3,66913|3,67095|3) - & 01:09:640 (69640|1,69822|1,70004|1) - as stated in my 2nd
   
6. 01:08:004 (68004|3,68185|3,68367|3,68549|3) - & 01:10:913 (70913|0,71095|0,71276|0,71458|0) - ill make this once since theyre in the same situation. 01:08:185 - is the pause part of the vocal pitch since the word "aii" ends 01:08:004 - and another pitch starts 01:08:367 - like u did 01:08:367 (68367|3,68549|3) - , same as the 2nd one 01:11:095 - another pause here coz the "aii" word again ends 01:10:913 - and the pitch starts 01:11:276 (71276|0,71458|0) - . And looking back to ur 1st part, to put it simply, my explanation already interprets here 00:56:367 (56367|3,56549|3,56549|2,56731|2,56913|3) - . The pitch is 00:56:367 (56367|3,56549|3) - and 00:56:731 - the pause one. Fixed
   
7. 01:02:004 (62004|1,62185|1,62367|1) - not a vocal pitch i assume unlike 01:02:367 (62367|2,62549|2,62731|2) - fixed

So well that's all I notice, rest seems fine. Dunno if my post explained well but I think doing irc is much better for more details. . .And wont press this issue anymore as this is gonna be my last post in this thread, dont like to add more in my post forum lol. Well if u want more clear, maybe catch me online? gonna try to stay at night. Well goodluck w/your map

PS:After ur respond to this, maybe ill just PM u if its ready to g or gonna say some little suggestions.

Chaoslitz wrote:

requalified~

YashaPlay wrote:

Wait,it's again Hitorigoto non Full Size mapset?,
Really!?,
Congratulations!