Hny wrote:

M4M https://osu.ppy.sh/s/651065 Hny's diff please.

INSANE
00:08:550 (1) - Hitsound of finish, either remove or add more at the start of each of those patterns. [00:09:140 (1) - 00:09:730 (1) - 00:10:320 (1) - ] no, i followed the songs finishes, so why i should?

00:10:320 (1,2,3,4) - The movement on this is uncomfortable, its handled way better there 00:19:131 (1) - in this part. on both parts a strong last 4 notes stream, imo they do what the are supposed to do, reflect the music, the jumps between are so little that is unnessecary in which degress the are, only the space between 1,2,3,4 matters

00:11:188 (2) - Move this one bit lower and to the right. Compensate the transition from two strong sounds to lesser one.

My suggestion

why not it was a bit weak^^

00:22:056 (7) - This feels like its very out of its place. Try placing it higher like in 00:26:809 (7) - Inconsistent. Same sound, yet this time its placed according to the straight flow, so either change the first one to be in straight line or rearrange that one. agree, changed

00:33:809 (1,2) - These two sliders are random as phucc. Also the sound these sliders are trying to represent is really weak. Hee heaaadxD!? the arent random, as u can see from this part on i mapped the lyrics first not the riff anymore

Also 00:34:105 (2) - Ranking criteria states that sliders must end on a sound of equal or less power than the beggining, and as i hear it, it ends on a stronger one. same as above, i mapped lyrcis not drums

The map after 00:35 gets really coonfusing, at least for me. i need examples xD

01:00:518 (1) - Shouldn't this be reversed two times? ye, i missed one tick,. fixed

01:04:107 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This feels kind of too diff spiky. i made it consistent, it represents the music. i mean that arent common pp jump pattern, but i dont see any reason to change it into that

01:20:140 (1,2,3,4,5) - This star gave me a disease well, this wasnt supposed to be a star, i made it more clear^^

DendyMudak wrote:

Insane

00:38:103 (7,8,1,2,3) - If you prioritise the vocal, why this objects are more focused on instrumental
01:04:107 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ^ mhh, i mapped the drumhits, vocals and that guitar riff <01:04:107 (1,2,3,1,2,3) same goes for the drumfill at 00:38:103 i allways choose the foreground sounds, that reflect the song best. I did this consistent in that parts so i guess its ok and was the best solution for me
00:42:494 (4,5) - they have to be more spaced because of strong sound agree, fix
00:43:975 (1,2) - you can change the direction of the flow, this sound is much different good idea, changed that pattern
00:52:014 (5,6) - there is no point for stack, you have a lot of space yepp, that was random
01:10:042 (1,2,3,4) - ^ no, there are only drums that was intenionelly to stack this part to represent that little break from the other instruments

Normal

00:25:037 (1,2,3,4) - looks very hard for the new players, normal and easy should be appropriate for the new players mhh i dont think so i did the same at 00:20:304 (1,2,3,4) - but i looked at some other parts and simplified 00:23:269 (2,3) -

PandaHero wrote:

Hello, m4m from my queue
Sounds like drummer was drunk af

[Parachute's Kiss]
This diff was really enjoyable to mod, gj Thanks <3

There is not so much yellow color on the bg, maybe remove it? Uhm I had a different bg but rin desu removed it so well see about that one xD
01:19:543 - you have red and green line with different volume lvl (58% and 38%)

00:18:542 (3,4) - oh, you can copy this thing - 00:17:952 (1,2), ctrl+j it and stack head of 4 slider with the end of 2 slider, I think it will be cool with your style https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8930977
00:26:513 (4) - why you stop cursor on this slider, there is nothing in music for it, what about ctrl+g this - 00:26:513 (4,5)? (don't forget that hitsounds will ctrl+g too)
00:31:556 (1,2,3) - ctrl+j and move it down? This will be more intuitive to play
00:33:809 (3,4) - what about ctr+g this rhythm? It will fit vocal better imo Idk about this one. The note changes and where it changes i make the player click the second slider so imo it fits more like it is now ^^
00:34:543 (1,2) - not a very good spacing solution for 1/2 objects, I would recommend you to make smth like this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931080 Why? I think it fits the harsh vocal sounds here pretty good with a stack so no change, also the whole "more harsh" section here with the linear pattern in the middle. I think it fits good so ill keep it for now^^
00:35:715 (3,4) - if you did this ^, I guess you'll need to make smth with these notes
00:48:755 (1) - stack this with 00:47:859 (7)? This note deserves more spacing imo
00:52:014 (5) - maybe put nc here so it will be more pleasant to read? True, its easier to read. Imo misuse of nc though /: not sure if its actually the best thing to do but i made a nc there.
00:54:080 (3) - 00:54:647 (5) - 00:55:214 (7) - it will plays more fun if you do ctrl+g for these sliders I dont think so about this one tbh.
Spacing emphasis is better right now so it would kinda ruin that and i also think its already fun like it is so i dont think this is necessary at all especiall since it would ruin the spacing emphasis ^^
01:00:481 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ...these notes are unsnapped, right? Not rlly xD, idk how else to do this while still representing the music, and this is imo the closest to get to ^^'
01:07:089 (3) - stack it with slider's head will be better, because it's the same sound as here - 01:05:908 (3)
01:16:444 (5) - what about ctrl+h, j, g and move it up for better flow?? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931165 Well you gotta explain on why that would have better flow though o.O i dont see any flow problem since it will go just up-right anyways and honestly it wouldnt make much of a difference here playwise. At least i dont see any difference ^^'

Good luck with this set

PandaHero wrote:

Hello, m4m from my queue
Sounds like drummer was drunk af How dare u xD

[Modding assistant stuff]
1. Unused hitsounds:
drum-hitclap3.wav
drum-hitfinish3.mp3
drum-hitwhistle3.wav
drum-sliderslide3.wav They are for Spaces Hard i fixed it
2. Usage of mp3 and ogg as hitsounds is not recommended (consider converting to .wav):
drum-hitfinish2.mp3
drum-hitfinish3.mp3 converted
3. Hitsound file is not 100 ms length:
drum-hitnormal2.wav 97.3ms its longer now

[Normal]
00:23:269 (2,3) - will be more understanable for newbies if you continue doing your short slider-long slider rhythm as you did here - 00:20:888 (2,3)
i rly dont know about this it doesnt reflect the music, if someone else point this out as a problem ill change it

00:45:756 (5) - this slider scared me, 1/2 slider on the vocal will be cool i tried hard to change that section but idk how to represet it and make it beginner friendly changed it a bit but not rhythmwise

[Insane]
00:33:809 (2,3) - this two sliders looks a bit random, try this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931244 i rotate them a bit so they look good togheter i wanted to represent the strong vocals, thats why i choose that strong shape
00:36:304 (1) - move it up a bit up, I think this vocal needs more spacing (like between these objects - 00:34:835 (2,3))
00:37:674 (5,6) - same as before, try to make spacing between this objects similar to spacing between these two notes - 00:37:377 (3,4) i made as before 2 and 2,2 on snare normal 1,4 made it more clear now
00:38:968 (4) - what about this - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931302? For creating difference between this slider and sliders from next part
00:43:975 (1,2,3) - just an aesthetic suggestion, copy 1 slider, put it instead of 2, ctrl+h and ctrl+g it - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931333i like the idea but the flow would be inconsitent in compare with the pattern that follow ;:/
00:45:756 (8,9) - map vocal by 1/2 slider isntead of these two notes, because you mapped vocal before? true i added sth
00:47:262 (5) - ctrl+h? Spacing between 4 and 5 is too small imo i moved a bit up instead
00:49:353 (3) - what about end this slider on the white tick? Sound on it is stronger than sound on blue tick
00:52:438 - you missed vocal sound on this tick, try to make note+slider instead of big slider? added circle
00:56:988 (5,6) - what about cirlce+1/1 slider rhythm here, I think it will emphasize vocal better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8931423
01:08:848 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - make similar angle like you did here - 01:04:107 (1,2,3,1,2,3), because it sounds pretty same? uhh lel youre right

Good luck with this set

tiffany yu tyu wrote:

Hi from my queue =!

General

I searched it up, the BPM should be 102, I think you have too many timing points, you can put more than 1 but yours has too many (well IDK maybe you are right) nah u cant handle Rhcp songs / songs w/o metronome in one bpm^^
IDK you forgot to add Kiai time or you remove it on purpose purpose^^

Normal

00:08:258 (1) - I think the spinner is too short for beginners(at least 5 beats (white ticks)), consider delete it or make it longer
00:17:657 (1) - same as this
01:19:543 (1) - same mhh auto gets 7k atleast on all my spinners, idk what else should i do in this parts, spinner reflect best here, if somebody else points this out ill change it
there is a heavy beat on 00:33:659 - add something- followed vocals complety, since its an normal i have to hold it simpel
01:15:401 - add an circle- there is a heavy beat just like this 01:10:042 (1,2,3) - not there but find sth else cuase of this^^

Insane

00:10:894 (1,2,3) - consider putting with the same DS is iot rly that hard? i mean its buildup and a little gimmick, dont consider to change it cause imo its a nice way to represent this part of this song on an insane diff
I think you should plan the DS for your map, its different sometimes so it will make players confused rechecked all find 2 notes, that could were DS random

ok GL!!

DendyMudak wrote:

Space's Hard

There is a problem in spacing, if you trying to make each object on time-distance quality, than you should work on one spacing
00:03:526 (5) - overlap overlap on what, looks fine to me
00:17:952 (1,2) - make blanket nah it feels like it will go against the downward directional flow i am emphasising here
00:36:304 (6) - if you follow the vocal, why this mapped on instrumental 00:32:758 (3,5) it is all on vocals, i didn't want to overmap it as it would be too much of a diffspike for a hard.
00:44:568 (3) - reverse wouldn't be consistent with how ive mapped this in other places.

PandaHero wrote:

[Space's Hard]
00:08:550 (1) - if you remove one reverse it will be more appropriate for this difficulty lvl imo wouldn't sound right with the guitar im mapping to.
00:40:440 (3) - this clap sounds out of place, try whistle instead yeah that sounds better, thanks for finding this!
00:54:647 (4) - ^ yeah, also agree on this. thanks!
00:43:375 (6) - remove whistles from head and end of the slider, please, it sounds like hs spam x_x alright changed
00:57:583 (5) - put clap instead of whistle, it sounds better here nah I think its current sound is fine
01:00:223 (7) - remove clap alright, changed this too
01:08:848 (3) - put nc so it will be easier to read? nah I feel it's fine as it is, due to 01:05:908 (3,4) being a similar style

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bezbashn wrote:

Overall - What is this timing points ??? Ask yourself a question "Does all this timing poinds must be here?"
yeah i think so, otherwise it would be rly hard to handle. A clean timing is essential. if i would take longer timing sections this map would feel off

[Normal]
00:24:005 - Maybe stick it somewhere around x88 y208. So it would have same distance between 2 and 4visually i agree but this atm shows timedistance perfekt there is a gap between 3 and 4 in the timeline
01:01:408 - Spinner ends here ok

[Insane]
~

In general it mapped nice, except moments i metnioned above. Good luck! Thank u
Feeling kinda dumb, because you've made a long informative mod and I'm backing with this. Meh... What can I say - your map is made better from the beginning tbh...
i know that pain too dont worry. I had alot of remaps and discussion over that 5 months on this mapset i researched a lot of stuff. in comparassion to my first attempt this looks much better from my perspective.

Thanks alot for your Mod!

DrSensei-Hugo wrote:

Hello, from mod queue
First off, why are there so many timing points? Seems weird to me... trust me they are needed
Absence of mods is easily explained by the fact that I didnt find anything major wrong in this map. If I was a bn and encouraged by others, I would bubble this.

Good luck in ranking

frogyfro wrote:

Parachute's Kiss:
overall i enjoyed the old map vibe that this one had but i feel like the concept could have been better executed on

notice how each iteration of this has a slightly different flow:
00:02:331 (2,3,4) - 4 breaks circular flow
00:04:722 (4,5,6) - all three notes follow circular flow
00:07:091 (4,5,6) - 6 breaks implied slider direction of 4
About these 3 things, i dont really understand what you mean since i wanted these flow breaks on the last notes of this pattern and i dont see how the flow is getting broken at 00:04:722 (4,5) - which btw is the same as 00:07:091 (4,5) - . The third note of these patterns should have been flowbreaks, even if the last one is a bit more of a harsh one, i think it keeps the consistency good, at least on the example you picked, and i dont really see a reason to change that. So in the end i really dont see anywhere where the flow makes the map "badly playable" or where it doesnt fit the music, and if you see any actual flowmistakes then im more then happy to look at them, but i dont really see what you mean since, honestly the flow isnt even bad on these spots or anything its just a bit of a different flow to emphasize the music a bit better at these points (:

there's a lot in this map like this. i appreciate the symmetry, but more thought needs to be put into keeping flow consistent throughout the map

00:03:825 (1,2) and 00:06:216 (1,2) is probably the best example of this. ctrl+g on the second pattern completely changes how it plays. i can appreciate striving for variety, but consistency ought never to be sacrificed for it.Yea it does change a bit how it plays. A bit. Its just barely noticeable, actually youll not even notice this while playing since the placing of these notes together are literally the same, its just ctrl+g'd on 1 slider. Its still perfectly playable, imo fits the music totally fine and is kinda consistent (since its still kinda of a turn when playing on both of these places). So unless theres a reason besides "consistency" id rather not change this since imo its still really similar playing wise, flow wise, aesthetically so yea.

00:08:550 (1,2,3,4) - why the awkward movement to 3? also, why the overlaps? i'd sooner use a pattern more like this: Because the music here is kinda weird too + theres a drum-thing-sound on this 3 note so tbh i think it fits the music like this, so no change ^^ also i dont really see what you mean with overlap? the only overlap is at 00:10:463 (2) - and yea. i do agree this could be made a bit cleaner with the next slider so, fixed that overlap (if you even meant that). if you mean 00:07:966 (6,2) - the 6 is completely gone before 2 is completed so .. uhm idk about that one especially since the music gets kinda weird here i think its fitting so ill keep it for now.

SPOILER

00:18:837 (4,5) - notice how different the movement is from 4 to 5 than any of the other ones? also, the overlaps are completely unnecessary. i'd redesign this pattern Here also i dont really get what you mean. playing wise this pattern just gets more intense with every .. lets say "part" while at 3 and 5 are new "parts" since the song gets more intense in these parts too. And tbh i dont really see how its so "different" to play 4 to 5 honestly. 5 to 6 is nearly the same just a bit more up/more of a jump. If the flow would be totally different i would get it but its literally just left/right the whole time o.O also the beginning of a new part there makes this totally reasonable. Just like i started making the 3 diagonal flow instead of the normal flow on 1 to 2. then normal flow again 3 to 4 since its kinda the same just a bit more intense (the only thing i could agree on here is to make this jump bigger but imo its not necessary here already) then i made this 180° flow to 5 since a new part starts, and then the bigger jump to 6 since it gets more intense. I dont really see at any point how this has bad overlaps or how this is supposed to be bad to play since the flow is totally fine imo and it represents the music like this so... no change ^^

00:34:077 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - this part is extremely difficult to read on account of the overlaps and completely horizontal movement. i'm not against using difficult reading as a concept in your map, but as is 90% of the map is extremely easy to read and this pattern stands out as a result. either this pattern needs to be changed to minimize the reading difficult it presents, or the rest of the map needs to be reworked to utilize difficult reading as a more central mechanic Why? the singing here is COMPLETELY different to the rest of the song so i dont see any reason not to make a "newer" pattern here, when theres a "new" part introduced in the music too?

00:45:756 (7,8,9) - cross screen wide angled jumps like this are extremely difficult to hit. what i said above applies. i'm not against the use of jumps like this, but if they are used they need to be a more central aspect of the map. they can't just appear half way through out of no where. Hmm thats something i would have agreed on. I might reconsider this one day but honestly this is just 2.3 spacing and its not hard really :/ theres way bigger jumps that are way harder to hit... i dont think any player would have a problem with this particular jump but be completely fine with the rest of the map tbh...


hopefully this helps!

frogyfro wrote:

nm from my queue

Insane:

00:08:550 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - pay attention to the angle between these. 00:09:582 (4,1) and 00:10:173 (4,1) feel totally different because one is a sharp angle and the other is wide. decide on if you want wide angle jumps or sharp angle jumps between your jump streams and stick with it
no, imo this doesnt matter at all cause they arent real jumps, angles doesnt matter in this case
00:29:329 (8,9,1,2,3) - the cursor movement along these 5 notes is completely wide angled. this doesn't really give a whole lot of emphasis to the downbeat
on 00:28:750 (6,7,8,9) - i got 2 jumps in sharp angles for the snaredrums here, 00:29:774 (1,2,3) - are vocal focused and got a sharp angle jump to the next 00:30:368 (1,2,3) pattern - and the next 00:30:962 (1,2,3) - to emphasize the snare again

at 00:29:774 (1). i'd try to make the angle between 00:29:477 (9,1,2) sharp so that 1 stands out a lot more than it currently does.
i stacked 9 at the sliderend to solve that problem i understand u there
00:39:556 (1,2,3,4,5) - i don't like how the flow for this section changes for 5. what is different about 5 that warrants breaking the pattern 1 through 4 set up? i dont know what breaks it i mean circle to linear in with the same spacing and on straight sliders, that doesnt play badly at all?

00:42:201 (3,4,5) - there's a rotation change on 5 that doesn't really make much sense to me. the only thing i can think of is the chord change but i really don't think that warrants such uncomfortable movement strong vocals + buildup imo enough to justify my choice

00:52:297 (7) - might want to cover the snare drum sound that happens inside of this slider
ye fuck that part, ill change it now my bad!
00:53:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - movement seems really sporatic here. at 00:54:931 (5) and 00:56:692 (4) the slider body moves against how the player entered the slider. there's stuff like 00:54:363 (3) and 00:56:396 (3) where the slider body moves with how the player entered the slider. i couldn't figure out why you kept changing movement on these sliders. i'd remap this part putting more thought into flow.
this was intenionelly i got again a buildupsection, directionchange is because of the vocals and the bassslide after justify the big jump and again a directionchange
01:00:863 (2) - this slider landing on a 1/12 tick is near impossible to time. remap these two sliders in an easier way for the player
testplayers never mention im fine with it too, if it caused probs ok ill change it but imo is this the easiest solution^^

01:05:609 (6,7,8,1,2) - all these big 1/2 gaps make the chorus lose a lot of intensity. i'm thinking back to the beginning where you had patterns like 00:01:435 (1,2) to go along with the guitar. wouldn't stuff like 01:07:681 (1,2) make sense to be mapped in a similar way? i'd add in some more sliders to try to keep the intensity of the map up.
why should i build intensity when there isnt any, there are a lot of break where no guitar and bass is playing i reflected that. I got a lot of intense stuff on the guitar riff parts, so no change there

hopefully this helps!

rohasshiki wrote:

Hello from M4M queue!

Insane

1. 00:10:894 (1,2) - Why not make these sliders like the rest of them? The pattern isn't any different in the music
2. 00:26:069 (5) - This slider shape doesn't really occur elsewhere in the section, feels unwarranted strong vocals
3. 00:31:706 (5,1) - Might want to decrease the stack value so that this stacks cleanly instead of sticking out
4. 00:32:607 (5,6) - imo don't see a reason for this spacing, nothing changes in the song to warrant this if you used even spacing before snare
5. 00:33:809 (2,3) - don't really see a reason for this slider shape, but it's not really an issue vocals
6. 00:35:863 (5) - again, the angled slider doesn't make a lot of sense to me because the held vocal right before it is curved instead ye, asthetics and vocals dunno its rly minor imo^^
7. 00:38:246 (8) - I think this works far better as a slider, if you change it you'd have to move the position though emphesized drumfill
8. 01:16:742 (3,4) - Right here again, lower stack distance so these stack nicely, looks ugly as is tried but i have take it down to 0 ;(
9. 01:18:064 (4,4) - For both of these, last section which is the same part musically you used curved, but switched to angled here, feels inconsistent.
   true made them curved

Normal

1. 00:08:258 (1,1) - Both of these spinners should go a little longer and end somewhere else. They don't end on a strong sound and it feels off have to take it off 2 beats before cause it is an normal diff
2. 00:10:894 (1,2,3) - This is the only time you used circles over sliders in this section, consider changing for consistency drum hits
3. 00:31:556 (4) - This is a held vocal note, should extend the slider to catch all of it
   hh would be inconsisten see: 00:36:304 (4) -
4. 01:12:717 (2) - You were using circles everywhere else, no real reason to use a slider here instead changed that part
5. In general, you have a weird thing of skipping over vocal lines even though you were mapping to vocals just moments before. You want to stay consistent imo so that players know what to play based on what they're hearing.

Good luck in ranking! The timing points seem like a hassle to work with though. M4M map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/651083

Milar001 wrote:

Hi, from my queue

[Normal]
00:22:662 (1,2,3) - It's same music section as at previous pattern, so pattern itself shouldn't change drums
00:31:556 (4) - Imo red tick here is more important sound than blue tick so end it on red
00:46:662 - Fill no did it like 00:50:214 (1,2) -
00:49:353 (2) - Instead of this slider make 1/4 slider and put a circle on 00:49:353 (2) - guess its better as it is cause of the vocals :/
01:09:445 - Fill here i agree
01:14:208 - ^
01:15:997 - ^ since its heavy riff based, no


[Insane]
00:22:056 (7) - Nc ye
00:26:809 (7) - ^ ye
01:07:089 (3,1) - Make it more clear that's a 1/4 gap dunno how and dont think its nessecary on an Insane^^
01:15:997 (5,1) - ^

Nice map, I'm really impressed with timing, hope it can be helpful

Naotoshi wrote:

shit lost half my mod
whatever

[insane]
00:08:550 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - doing this is ok but it could be more interesting to use sliders and only put circles on the drum doubles or something. dunno, up to you. i like the singletabs rly much as they are ;/ dont see any reason to change this. It has an buildup. its getting more intense in spacing.

00:22:662 (1,2) - omg parallel plz okiii

00:26:069 (5,6) - eeeeee okok found a better solution made slider round and no overlap!

00:33:359 (1) - circle+slider rhythm is a lot nicer here cuz the offbeat vocal gets highlighted i agree changed

00:34:105 (3,4) - 1/1 slider or delete circle here works better too. the filler rhythm kinda screws up the held vocal extended slider

00:42:054 (2,3) - this is actually really painful to play, ctrl g on 3 would be a bit more comfortable cuz atm it is pretty overspaced imo strgplusG 3 and 4

00:45:014 (4) - same thing with the filler rhythm here, since your rhythm is so focused on vocals having a random click on nonvocal is weird ;; oh ye that was pretty bad. changed it to 2 circles and a slider.

01:04:107 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this pattern doesn't make much sense to me. cuz it implies that something is being repeated in the song, but i don't hear anything. also there isn't really a constant 1/4 going on, something likg http://puu.sh/xyNDT/e3398e8216.jpg fits better imo ye i kinda agree that shreed guitar is kinda messy^^ i did the rhythm as u mention with an circular flow.

[normal]
00:08:258 (1) - meh i get why you put a spinner here but it doesnt really work out cuz it has to end too early. i think just mapping normally and adding some circles in would be better.

bye Spinner! hello 4 sliders to represent the buildup guitar/and bass part. Same change i applied on 00:17:657 (1) - too and replaced the spinner with it

00:33:809 (4,5) - uhh this isnt that good, i think circle + 1/2 slider works better here for the rhythm. easier for noobs too.
fixxed
00:47:262 (2) - this is pretty confusing, 1/2 works better for simplification
ok made it more beginnerfriendly changed to repeat 1/4 to a 1/2 slider as u suggested

yea biggest issue is that pattern on insane. i dont think it really fits anywhere o.o
ye rip that pattern xD
let me know when you respond!

Thanks alot for your MOD!

Naotoshi wrote:

shit lost half my mod
whatever

[parachute]
00:04:572 (3) - these overmapped circles really detract from your rhythm. having constant clicking doesn't fit the song at all imo. better to remove them all. Removed the circles that were mapped to nothing

00:08:550 (1,4) - circles on these two would be cool to follow the guitar more closely
On this one i really dont see how circles would follow the guitar better o.o 1,4 are literally the same sounds as 2,3 so i dont get how different stuff represents the same thing better.. not changed this one.

00:35:127 (2) - u can use SL 0 and perfect stack these, would look cooler imo
fixed, hope it didnt destroy something else in the map xd dont think so though

00:47:710 (6,7) - should definitely be a slider. i know it fucks your pattern up but the offbeat vocal is way too strong to ignore
Uhm fixed i guess

00:50:817 (6) - ew no, delete plz...
k.

00:56:988 (5) - same, offbeat vocal would be better
I think the repeat slider represents that good, no change ^^

01:16:742 (6) - slider + circle works better here imo
True

let me know when you respond!

Naotoshi wrote:

[hard]
00:03:526 (5,6,1) - imo space these less. it is pretty misleading cuz the spacing is so similar to 00:02:331 (3,4) - hmm, the spacing here is prevalent throughout the map and it would make less sense to make this different from the other

generally fine. good job. Thanks!

Naotoshi wrote:

few things.

insane:
01:20:140 (1,2,3,4,5) - these look kinda randomly placed, i think if u made them small spacing like parachute it'd work better cuz theres no drums or anything, just vocals.

Naotoshi wrote:

few things.

parachute:
00:08:550 (1,4) - circles on these two would be cool to follow the guitar more closely
On this one i really dont see how circles would follow the guitar better o.o 1,4 are literally the same sounds as 2,3 so i dont get how different stuff represents the same thing better.. not changed this one.
yea so if you listen closely, those 2 sliders have 2 strums in the guitar. or at least that's what i hear, maybe i'm hallucinating. so 2 clicks on them would make sense to me.
Hmmmm. I really dont hear it sorry. And if then its probably kinda silent. It would like ruin the whole pattern of this part, even though you dont rlly hear the difference most of the time and idk.. imo it wouldnt fit anymore to this section to make 1 and 4 to circles.

i think if you bump the normal to ar 5 it'd be better, some of the patterns get really dense atm

insane:
01:20:140 (1,2,3,4,5) - these look kinda randomly placed, i think if u made them small spacing like parachute it'd work better cuz theres no drums or anything, just vocals.

Rin Desu wrote:

- changed Spinner on Insane

and timing points on all diffs:

59928,590.659405940593,4,2,2,68,1,0
60502,371.799999999999,4,2,2,68,1,0
60873,375,4,2,2,68,1,0

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