"killing different" even though symmetry came first than this free style stuff :U but ye, completely agree with you.iYiyo wrote:
totally agree with natsu about the modern mapping killing different kinds of maps.
"killing different" even though symmetry came first than this free style stuff :U but ye, completely agree with you.iYiyo wrote:
totally agree with natsu about the modern mapping killing different kinds of maps.
Monstrata wrote:
As for Gero's 5 note stream, it's still pretty obvious to me that it's 1/4
completely different sounding things into one spaced 5 note streamyes it is 1/4, but that wasn't my point
i wonder why you guys keep mentioning that lasse is trying to destroy the map concept when he already stated he's not against the map being symmetrical?Lasse wrote:
I'm not against symmetry focused mapping in general, but the way you executed it
i don't think all maps do the same, at least not to this degree but anyway this is a fallacy, you're appealing to common practice. just because everyone does it doesn't mean this specific case is acceptable.Andrea wrote:
Let's be honest, nowadays maps are all the same, random jumps in every part of the song without caring about the intensity, you are being picky on this one only because Gero is mapping it with symmetry so maybe it's more noticeable for you, but it doesn't mean that it's any different from the other maps.
i'm glad that you realize that the map doesn't accurately represent the song intensity but pointing out that the map plays fine is irrelevant. i think i never said the map plays bad? that has nothing to do with the argumentAndrea wrote:
Even though you might be right that he's not focusing the song intensity enough, the map is still fine to play.
Maybe we misinterpreted because of the long mod u did, but ye, you usually do different things which are cool.Lasse wrote:
can you stop making it sound like I'm trying to kill "different" maps when I'm probably the t2 nominating most of them, thanks
keep the baseless accusations out of this
Sorry to say this, but doing a full mod like this won't help at all imo. You just waste your own time, and the mappers time, which is... aaa x.x time is goldNaotoshi wrote:
anyway, gonna wait for your full redwall before doing more, but i hope you attempt to improve this instead. i'm happy to help, i should be fine to mod now since the most of my treatment is over.
nossa amiga amei seus mapas de 2010 muito bompimpG wrote:
nope, i didn't see any difference besides the file size.
não sou mulher. na verdade todos meus maps são de 2012 em diante, mas fico feliz que gostouMkGuh wrote:
nossa amiga amei seus mapas de 2010 muito bom
Naotoshi wrote:
[monstrata]
00:27:349 - wats this really obvious triple that got ignored for? there's even a finish on the circle after it, emphasizing that circle with a triple would be nice. I want to do a star pattern instead so i didnt map the triplet.
00:37:997 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - differentiating the claps would be really nice since this pattern kinda completely ignores them... fixed
00:46:700 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - dude i know you wanted the top diff on the set but these are completely out of sync with the rest of the map... it just makes no sense and you know it i want to keep cuz its challenging and I think this is the climax of the song
00:57:071 (1) - how come these fairly clear offbeat vocals got ignored?not important imo and I want to use some 1/1 rhythms instead of just 1/2 slider spam xP.
01:26:886 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same thing about the ending as gero, really, i mean it was even 3/4 before it was qualified right? lol i changed the hitsounding
also this is the climax, why's the spacing 1/3 that of the giant pp jumps in the middle? its not the climax, its just the ending xP.
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Naotoshi wrote:
00:34:849 (3,4) - ctrl g for the clear offbeat vocal rhythm would fit a bit better here. I'd rather to keep this like this since I'm not trying to follow the vocals in this section.
01:01:515 (3,4) - there's a very clear offbeat vocal here, which has a clap hitsound on a slider tail as well, it would be better to ctrl g 01:01:515 (3,4) - in order to show that. I'm sure that this is perfectly fine because the slider is following the first strongest vocal beat. So I think that this should be okay as it is now.
additionally, 01:13:552 (2,3) - this fullscreen spacing is completely unsupported in the song by melody, vocals, drums, whatever layer. you map similar places (drum claps) with very small spacing, like 01:20:404 (5) - or 01:15:219 (5,1,2,3) - so having the biggest possible vertical jumps on these ones seems incredibly out of place. Fixed by decreasing the spacing.
Not mentioned = Fixed
Changed them all.pimpG wrote:
i don't know if this was ever mentioned, but look at the file size of some of your background images
800kb ~ 1mb is a bit too much for 1366x768 .jpg images IMO
if you use those you will save almost 2mb file size
https://puu.sh/xjJAR/b568f57cdb.jpg
https://puu.sh/xjJAM/c3aa05cdb6.jpg
https://puu.sh/xjJB3/9f4cc847e4.jpg
Updated~iYiyo wrote:
Anyway, just a few things i'd like to mention about the top diff
00:27:256 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - esto está genial, pero siento que se nota de sobremanera la simetría con lo que viene después. No se nota tanto en la primera parte (00:15:589 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) -) donde utilizas ángulos más abierto, aparte de usar uno que otro sliders. Métele un slider a esa sección, quedaría bien. Listo.
Encuentro que el kiai está repleto de notas individuales, por lo que podrías tratar de diferenciar las secciones que hay en esta y darle una especie de refresh al gameplay, las cuales son 00:51:145 - y 00:57:071 -. Quizás hacer 00:57:997 - de estos un slider? En realidad prefiero dejar el Kiai sin muchos sliders, así que lo dejare así.
00:56:700 (1,2,3,4,1) - esta simetría con respecto al otro stream se siente algo forzado? La sugerencia que dio Komore más arriba la encuentro genial, podrías hacerlo algo parecido a eso, sino lo mismo xD Cambiado.
01:02:441 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - más espaciado para enfatizar la 2da sección del kiai? Cierto.
01:11:145 (2,3) - podrías hacer ctrl+g en estos para enfatizar 01:11:145 - y al mismo tiempo mantener la simetría. Prefiero mi patrón en realidad.
con respecto a los jumps y las cosas que dicen los demás;
00:15:774 (2,3,1) - personalmente encuentro que este tipo de variación hace que el gameplay sea entretenido. Acá ya nadie nota mucho que digamos esos cambios en el DS. Quizás lo que si fuese un "problema" es que se parece un poco a los jumps del kiai, por lo que la gente reclama que no hay diferenciación. Qué tal en reducirlos en un x0,8 aprox? Ya remapee esta sección por algo diferente.
00:22:626 (8,1) - este jump si se nota un poquito más, considera reducirlo Ya esta.
00:27:812 (5,1) - 00:29:108 (4,5) - similar a lo anterior, podrías jugar con la simetría de manera que no uses espacio que quede tan lejos :d Ya.
01:13:552 (2,3,4,5) - this is indeed way too much xd Listo.
01:22:256 (4,5,6,7) - podrías pasar la intensidad de los jumps anteriores a estos? xD Ya que cambie algunos jumps la intensidad de esta parte esta balanceada.
creo que eso sería :3
Suerte con el resto Gero, esperemos que los demás de verdad quieran ayudar, y no sea por otra cosa xD o/
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removed = fixed thxxsquirrelpascals wrote:
the way that you mapped these bits 00:51:700 (2,3,4) - with the strong vocal on slidertail is a bit odd, because the sliderhead is on a much less audible beat. consider this, but you probably see this in a way i dont because you had strong consistency in doing this only because theres much drums sound in the whole kiai, and i dont want to spam triplets xd, so i prioritized vocals
will do the others
osu file format v14
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Thxsquirrelpascals wrote:
Part. Number. Three.hazu• 00:42:997 (3) - make this wave slider symmetric, the tail is a bit less curvy a
• 00:47:441 - i'd like it if 00:47:441 - were clickable also because of the way you prioritized it with a circle on 00:46:700 (4) - Ctrl+G in 00:46:701 (4,5) -
• 01:27:441 (4,5) - rhythm here feels strange because you're not able to map to these snares like the two circles before, it would be better though if you found a way to make that sliderend clickable Replaced with a spinner to avoid strange rhythms.
when you say you'll get the rest tomorrow but you accidentally take 10 day s uuhhhh opps
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240,372,47812,2,0,P|276:368|332:364,1,70,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,320,48182,6,0,P|420:324|524:336,1,140,4|6,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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312,32,49663,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,32,49849,2,0,P|316:100|320:176,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,240,50404,2,0,P|248:232|128:224,1,140,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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144,52,51700,2,0,P|213:56|282:68,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
356,48,52256,1,4,0:0:0:0:
396,112,52441,2,0,P|392:176|388:272,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,328,52997,1,4,0:0:0:0:
236,280,53367,2,0,P|232:320|224:380,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,132,54108,6,0,P|268:92|260:32,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,24,54478,1,4,0:0:0:0:
152,88,54663,2,0,P|100:84|0:80,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
0,156,55219,2,0,P|4:196|8:248,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
64,276,55589,2,0,P|60:316|56:368,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,140,56330,2,0,P|180:96|260:104,1,140,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,132,57071,6,0,P|448:124|484:120,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
352,188,57626,2,0,P|360:252|368:336,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
308,376,58182,1,4,0:0:0:0:
196,272,58552,2,0,P|192:228|184:176,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,340,59108,2,0,P|96:356|24:296,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
4,244,59663,1,4,0:0:0:0:
112,132,60034,6,0,P|168:136|264:144,1,140,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,108,60774,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,260,61145,1,4,0:0:0:0:
280,288,61515,1,4,0:0:0:0:
280,288,61700,2,0,P|210:282|140:277,1,140,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,312,62256,1,4,0:0:0:0:
0,176,62626,2,0,L|4:96,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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332,180,64108,2,0,P|380:172|420:168,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,184,64478,2,0,P|496:148|496:104,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,44,64849,1,4,0:0:0:0:
324,56,65219,2,0,P|284:48|232:40,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,156,65960,6,0,P|474:149|508:143,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,192,66515,2,0,P|296:184|216:176,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,144,67071,1,4,0:0:0:0:
76,272,67441,2,0,P|40:268|-4:264,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,352,68182,2,0,P|256:320|264:228,1,140,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
196,108,68923,6,0,P|160:112|116:116,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
264,68,69478,2,0,P|320:72|424:76,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,48,70034,1,4,0:0:0:0:
460,200,70404,1,4,1:0:0:0:
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280,372,71330,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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260,200,71886,6,0,L|256:108,2,70,4|2|4,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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316,92,73737,1,4,0:0:0:0:
248,60,73923,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,104,74108,2,0,P|188:136|192:196,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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80,348,75960,2,0,P|132:336|172:332,1,70,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,292,76330,2,0,P|264:304|304:308,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,188,77071,2,0,P|88:112|140:60,1,140,2|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,32,77812,6,0,P|324:20|364:16,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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144,196,79663,1,4,0:0:0:0:
88,140,79849,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,88,80034,2,0,P|140:44|136:8,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,164,80774,6,0,P|276:208|272:244,2,70,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,104,81330,2,0,P|384:64|456:76,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
504,132,81886,2,0,P|500:180|496:224,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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408,104,82997,1,8,0:0:0:0:
264,156,83367,2,0,P|220:152|172:148,1,70,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,176,83737,6,0,P|116:136|108:92,2,70,4|2|4,1:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,252,84293,2,0,P|124:304|216:332,1,140,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,304,84849,2,0,P|312:308|364:316,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,296,85219,5,2,0:0:0:0:
448,228,85404,1,4,0:0:0:0:
420,156,85589,2,0,P|352:148|272:140,1,140,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,160,86330,2,0,P|136:212|140:252,1,70,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,300,86700,5,4,0:0:0:0:
256,192,86886,12,0,89478,0:0:0:0:
i changed some other minor things and decreased my hp to 6 tho, so heres my diff: clicksquirrelpascals wrote:
voli• 00:28:737 (5,2,4) - moving 2 to be even in between 00:28:737 (5,4) - will make this whole jump pattern look more rotational and neat oh but it consists of this rectangle 00:28:737 (5,1,2,3) - so that would kinda break it lol also 00:29:108 (2) - is stacked on the blanket slider haha so prefer like this
• 00:34:849 (1,2,3,4) - feels odd how you go from following vocals to following guitar with the kickslider at 00:35:404 (3,4) - randomly in this pattern. i dont think its odd considering i often switch between drums/vocals throughout the entire map
• 00:45:219 (1,1,1,1) - AAAAAAA this pattern is soo COOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL \o/ thanks!!
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