HoneyWorks meets TrySail - Senpai. [MOVIE Ver.] · forum

Pentori

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-07-25T17:04:29+00:00

heyo
[General]
offset sounds too early, most noticeable in the kiai. i'd add like +15 ms to ur timing points

hitsounding feels really bare too, since you dont have anything representing the kick drums. it makes sections like 00:37:114 - feel really empty since you only use claps throughout while there is a lot more going on instrumentally that could have feedback. i'd recommend getting a normal-hitclap and using that for any kick drums you hear, and if u do you'll need a copy of a soft whistle so you can have the kick drum + whistle together in places like 00:25:262

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[Notice me!]

00:13:966 (3) - 00:16:929 (3) - strong offbeats like these deserve to have whistles
00:17:485 (4,5,1) - flow gets pretty uncomfortable here cos of right angles, i'd try have this slightly higher and to the left https://puu.sh/wSJPX/656ea9a499.png
00:19:151 (7,8) - 00:21:373 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:24:707 (2,3,4,5,6) - should look to hitsound 1/4s appropriately too. double snare at 00:19:151 (7,8) - so claps would work, snares on 00:21:466 (2,3,4) - etc.
00:42:299 (3,4,5) - would look neater if u spaced these evenly
01:07:670 (6,7,1,2) - movement ends up being really sharp here making the jump to 01:08:411 (3) - feel really out of place because of the wider angle. try sticking to similar movement by having 3 somewhere like https://puu.sh/wSLud/f46a27bf1e.png that keeps it sharp
01:08:040 (1,2) - also should prob swap the nc here for downbeat
01:12:855 - 01:24:707 - sections like these are missing claps completely on slider ends, the snares still exist 01:13:410 - 01:13:781 - and should be hitsounded with claps
01:31:929 (5) - should be nced?
01:38:781 (1) - surprising that you end on the blue tick here and skip the downbeat, while the insane has it ending on the downbeat :d

[Insane]

00:21:373 (8) - 00:24:707 (2) - etc. 1/4s dont need to be simplified this much in an insane, especially cos the hard uses denser rhythm. mapping out the quintuplet is fine, just dont have it too spaced
00:19:151 (8,9,1) - spacing seems kinda uneven
00:24:336 (3,1,2) - using the wider angles when previous stuff was much sharper makes for really uncomfortable movement
01:07:670 (6) - try keep ur comboing strategies consistent, compared to 01:10:633 (1)
01:20:633 (3,4,5) - spacing on this stuff feels so big and make stronger beats 01:18:966 (2) - feel weaker in comparison
01:29:151 (1,2,3) - 01:34:151 (3,4,5) - eek with the angles again

you have patterns that would look so much more structured if you used the same sliders, things like 00:05:629 (2,3,4) - 00:34:707 (2,3) - look visually inconsistent because you recreate the slider each time instead of just using flipped copies. also noticed this in the top diff 00:26:744 (1,2) - 00:30:448 (3,4)

[Collab Hard]

00:00:815 - sv is rly low but spacing seems to be that of a more intense section? should probably use similar spacing to 00:25:262 - imo
00:24:336 (4,5,6,7) - 1/4s start from 00:24:707 - and end at 00:25:077 - the overmapping seems pretty unnecessary in a hard
00:29:151 (2,3,4) - problem with mapping vocals is that it doesnt represent intensity too well, the circles here make this part feel more intense compared to 00:26:744 (1,2) - cause of density, but in fact theyre the same. should try to balance out the density and simplify the vocals
00:31:003 (4) - kickslider is rly short in physical length here and can be misleading, id just stick to triplets lol
00:37:114 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - spacing on this stuff seems a bit ridiculous when compared to latter parts of the same section 00:40:077 (1,2,3)
01:33:410 (1) - unsnapped rip

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biggest room for improvement would definitely be the hitsounding, try adding on the additional layer of hitsounds that follow kick drums and also listening more closely for whenever snares are present in the music

popping for now cos unrankable stuff, poke me again whenever youve made progress and we'll see how it goes from there

Astarte

303 posts

Joined December 2014

Astarte 2017-07-25T17:35:59+00:00

oh boy

if you decide to change hitsounding pls copy it to my diff thankss o/

0109-

337 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

0109- 2017-07-25T23:46:36+00:00

~~Oh boi im on vacation again gonna back on sunday (~~

all fixed

Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2017-07-26T16:03:46+00:00

fffffff plz fix that unsnap for me if u haven't already :SS ;;

edit: if you need hitsound help i can just do it and you can copy them lololol, the current soft-hitwhistle doesnt fit imo :/

Hokichi

825 posts

Joined June 2015

Hokichi 2017-07-27T01:39:55+00:00

Pentori wrote:
heyo

[Collab Hard]
00:00:815 - sv is rly low but spacing seems to be that of a more intense section? should probably use similar spacing to 00:25:262 - imo
00:24:336 (4,5,6,7) - 1/4s start from 00:24:707 - and end at 00:25:077 - the overmapping seems pretty unnecessary in a hard
00:29:151 (2,3,4) - problem with mapping vocals is that it doesnt represent intensity too well, the circles here make this part feel more intense compared to 00:26:744 (1,2) - cause of density, but in fact theyre the same. should try to balance out the density and simplify the vocals
00:31:003 (4) - kickslider is rly short in physical length here and can be misleading, id just stick to triplets lol
00:37:114 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - spacing on this stuff seems a bit ridiculous when compared to latter parts of the same section 00:40:077 (1,2,3)
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popping for now cos unrankable stuff, poke me again whenever youve made progress and we'll see how it goes from there

All fixed. Thanks for the mod.

Fixed Gaia's unsnap object as well

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lit120

3,251 posts

Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-07-29T09:19:07+00:00

is it just me or the sb fucked up after the update?

there's a problem with the lyrics there

0109-

337 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

0109- 2017-07-30T08:18:40+00:00

lit120 wrote:
is it just me or the sb fucked up after the update?

there's a problem with the lyrics there

redownload?

Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2017-07-30T23:03:27+00:00

2 things:
- u didnt use my hitsounds? that's fine if u dun wanna use them but can u copy them onto my diff instead then, dont really want my work to be wasted (though i highly suggest u remove the soft-hitnormal cuz its kinda loud)

- slidertick and sliderslide can't both be silenced, that's unrankable

0109-

337 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

0109- 2017-07-31T00:34:17+00:00

did some in-game pm with gaia and changed some hitsounding things and changed the offset slightly...

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-08-01T08:44:52+00:00

sb\highlight.png
sb\tag.png
both still unused

00:00:830 - 00:11:015 - should just set the timing point samplesets to default to prevent ur custom hitnormal from being played. just sounds so awkward to have that much feedback
00:13:052 - here too

notice me!
01:38:792 (1,1) - try something like https://puu.sh/wYyrK/b973ed3135.png or at least have a circle on the downbeat, since the entire time you follow vocals until then

insane
00:24:718 (2) - 01:34:162 (3,4,5) - both dont seem fixed?
01:38:792 (1,1) - same as top diff

collab hard
00:26:755 (1,2,1,2) - should honestly just avoid using the consecutive 1/1 repeats, makes this part so much easier to play than 00:25:273 (1,2,3,4) - 00:29:718 (1,2,3,4,5,1)

get ur bubble back after any changes then poke me

0109-

337 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

0109- 2017-08-01T11:33:55+00:00

Pentori wrote:
sb\highlight.png
sb\tag.png
both still unused

00:00:830 - 00:11:015 - should just set the timing point samplesets to default to prevent ur custom hitnormal from being played. just sounds so awkward to have that much feedback
00:13:052 - here too

notice me!
01:38:792 (1,1) - try something like https://puu.sh/wYyrK/b973ed3135.png or at least have a circle on the downbeat, since the entire time you follow vocals until then

insane
00:24:718 (2) - 01:34:162 (3,4,5) - both dont seem fixed? the after one fixed. I did move the 00:24:718 (2) - to the left , and it seems fine imo, the angle is not that noticeable when you do the jumps
01:38:792 (1,1) - same as top diff

collab hard
00:26:755 (1,2,1,2) - should honestly just avoid using the consecutive 1/1 repeats, makes this part so much easier to play than 00:25:273 (1,2,3,4) - 00:29:718 (1,2,3,4,5,1)

get ur bubble back after any changes then poke me

others fixed
also updated for hokichi

(the collab hard)

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 2017-08-08T14:05:34+00:00

I redownloaded the mapset and somehow a difficulty called "hitsounds" was in the set even though it is not listed on the website. Try reuploading the map again please.

0109-

337 posts

Joined June 2013

Topic Starter

0109- 2017-08-08T14:51:28+00:00

Don't really understand why but yeah reuploaded

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-08-09T13:34:35+00:00

Kurai wrote:
I redownloaded the mapset and somehow a difficulty called "hitsounds" was in the set even though it is not listed on the website. Try reuploading the map again please.

~~actually got the same issues too. No idea why that happened. Lemme try again, see if it's still there~~ it's gone

Kurai

osu! Alumni

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Kurai 2017-08-09T13:49:05+00:00

Here's your rebub

Pentori

1,157 posts

Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-08-11T04:02:49+00:00

do u have a source for current title? honeyworks website has it listed using dashes http://honeyworks.jp/discography/