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yanaginagi - Zoetrope

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Natsu
8,074 posts
Joined September 2012
Natsu
Add hitsounds :(

Extra

  1. 00:16:679 (3,4,5,6,1) - spacing looks too similar, either stack 5,6 and 1 or adjust the spacing
  2. 00:36:444 (1,2) - blanket is off
  3. 01:01:390 (4,1,2,3) - this stacks looks so bad, because of the stack leniency from 1 2 3, use a manual stack instead.
  4. 01:26:825 (1,2,3,4,1) - this jump angle looks super uncomfortable to play, also you didn't used any similar in the rest xd
Linada

  1. 01:01:879 (1,2) - using whistles here doesn't makes sense with the music.
Kyuukai

  1. 01:15:086 (4,5,1) - spacing is too similar for different gaps
Bor

  1. 00:57:314 (1) - eh this almost kill my ears, can you add a hitsound that fit the music better?
Kin

  1. 00:09:631 (7) - this should be a NC according to your NC pattern.
  2. 00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals.
  3. 00:17:583 - there is an audible beat here, so the 5% volume don't fit
  4. OD 6

Akitoshi

  1. Add hitsounds
Normal

  1. Add hitsounds
If the bold things are fixed you can call me back after this gets rebub
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
Realazy
fixed everything on my diffs + kyuukai and akitoshi, will wait for bor kin and linada to reply
Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin

Natsu wrote:

  1. 00:09:631 (7) - this should be a NC according to your NC pattern. fixed
  2. 00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals. I'll state it again & again. Ofc I'm following the vocal, but her wo from the vocal is soooooo soft, it's almost inaudible because the "to" from the vocal is way harder. Her "wo" really feel like an extension to her "to"
  3. 00:17:583 - there is an audible beat here, so the 5% volume don't fit. Moved the greenline here 00:17:764 - 1/4 earlier
  4. OD 6 I don't mind fixing it, but 6.2 is actually better between Advanced (4.5) & bor's Insane (8)
Thanks for checking! \o
But I won't fix your 2nd point. Really. sorry
Natsu
8,074 posts
Joined September 2012
Natsu

Kin wrote:

Natsu wrote:

[list]
[*]00:10:354 - makes no sense to ignore this beat, since you are following the vocals. I'll state it again & again. Ofc I'm following the vocal, but her wo from the vocal is soooooo soft, it's almost inaudible because the "to" from the vocal is way harder. Her "wo" really feel like an extension to her "to" calling it almost inaudible isn't right, it's clearly audible at normal speed and everyone else mapped it, alteast map it as slider tail, also you mapped softer beats before..
Thanks for checking! \o
But I won't fix your 2nd point. Really. sorry, that's up to you, since is your map, but I don't agree with it tbh
Kin
2,618 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin

Natsu wrote:

you mapped softer beats before..
true, but I'm mainly based on the fact her wo is almost hidden from her to because it's way too similar. Even her shimata here 00:04:932 - is more audible, since it's easier to make difference between the end of her ta here 00:04:390 - & the "reverb" shimata

that's why it's currently mapped this way, or not mapped this way
anna apple
1,245 posts
Joined March 2014
anna apple
It can be weird when syllables are slurred. Controversial about when mapping all syllables or trying to avoid the slurred ones. I used to do that, and eventually I found maps to be more true to music when mapping the syllables since most people can't care for slurring.
Linada
994 posts
Joined November 2014
Linada
Fix for me real please! :)
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
Realazy
fixed both for bor and linada
Nao Tomori
Nomination Assessment Team
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Joined December 2014
Nao Tomori
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Seijiro
osu! Alumni
3,438 posts
Joined April 2013
Seijiro
top diff:
- 00:03:848 (1) - it would be cool to make this match the actual vocal and make it end at 00:04:450 - (1/12 snap)
- 00:46:879 - 00:54:705 - it would also be cool if you were to represent that constant 1.2 rhythm in this section by avoiding 1/1 sliders like 00:48:020 (1) - 00:50:629 (1) - . You can always make those into 1/2 reverse sliders if you really want the hold feeling on vocals
- 00:57:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - since the song is calmer, I would love to see lower spacing to match that

Linada:
- 00:39:542 - you did use this beat for 00:41:662 (1,2,3,4) - on this combo using a similar rhythm

bor:
- 00:12:161 (6) - expecting vocals with this, yet 00:12:523 (1,2,3) - pattern emulating the one on the harp at the start even if there is no harp I can hear. That's inconsistent to me tbh
- 01:03:509 (6) - clap please

Kin, try to not discard vocals too much. It's fine to follow instruments but make sure to not map something less intuitive just because of the instrument choice

Aki:
- 00:16:137 (2,3) - rhythm please. There is nothing to click on 3's head, but there is on its tail
- 00:46:879 - a small SV decrease would have been cool to emphasize the change in the music tbh
- 01:02:205 (2) - circle would good for contrast with 00:59:923 (1,2,1,2) -

Normal:
- 00:05:294 (2) - on what is this falling again?
- 01:28:129 (3,4) - why not repeat instead
Linada
994 posts
Joined November 2014
Linada

MrSergio wrote:

Linada:
- 00:39:542 - you did use this beat for 00:41:662 (1,2,3,4) - on this combo using a similar rhythm there is a kick on the second quote and not the first one though
Natsu
8,074 posts
Joined September 2012
Natsu
btw i'm taking care of this map, just I'm waiting for IamKwaN to confirm metadata
Realazy
Elite Mapper
1,004 posts
Joined June 2011
Topic Starter
Realazy

MrSergio wrote:

top diff:
- 00:03:848 (1) - it would be cool to make this match the actual vocal and make it end at 00:04:450 - (1/12 snap) isnt it 1/6
- 00:57:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - since the song is calmer, I would love to see lower spacing to match that eh i believe the spacing is low enough here since the lower intensity is also marked by less dense rhythms to give more emphasis to the notes at 00:57:314 (1,3,5,7) -

Normal:
- 00:05:294 (2) - on what is this falling again? in this diff i decided to mostly prioritize the piano in the intro which constantly does groups of 3 1/2 notes separated by 1/1 beats, even if it is way quieter here, it's still there, and it wouldn't make sense for me to follow anything else because the vocals aren't as easy to follow
- 01:28:129 (3,4) - why not repeat instead i wanted to give more emphasis on the final note since it's the climax of the song but on afterthought it's stupid to have the only 1/2 in the map at the end so i made this a repeat
rest has been fixed, i'll wait for others to answer

@natsu there are some metadata sources in the first post :< idk if they're good enough though
Akitoshi
2,684 posts
Joined August 2014
Akitoshi
@MrSergio fixed all, thanks!

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:やなぎなぎ
Creator:Realazy
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Tags:Akitoshi pyroflayer borborygmos bor yaleufeu Kyuukai Linada Kin エウアル euaru アムネシア opening
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Seijiro
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Seijiro

Natsu wrote:

btw i'm taking care of this map, just I'm waiting for IamKwaN to confirm metadata
worry not, for my intervention shall stop no further away
anna apple
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Joined March 2014
anna apple

MrSergio wrote:

bor:
- 00:12:161 (6) - expecting vocals with this, yet 00:12:523 (1,2,3) - pattern emulating the one on the harp at the start even if there is no harp I can hear. That's inconsistent to me tbh that was more to emphasize that boom type sound occuring, but I changed some things to make that more clear
- 01:03:509 (6) - clap please
thanks all fixed~

https://bor.s-ul.eu/heDAEOjJ.osu
Realazy
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Realazy
alright that should be it now, updated every diff

also added _83 to tags
Smokeman
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Smokeman
bad irc
23:24 _83: anim
23:25 Smokeman: how was anme ?
23:26 _83: sweaty
23:26 Smokeman: was it hot ?
23:27 _83: indeed
23:27 Smokeman: did you cast yeezy into the anime dimension ?
23:28 _83: i don't speak german
23:28 Smokeman: understandable, have a nice day
23:28 _83: ty
23:28 *Smokeman is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1266404 yanaginagi - Zoetrope]
23:30 _83: https://bor.s-ul.eu/zrimWkCW.png
23:30 Smokeman: uuugh
23:30 Smokeman: ok i am just going to say some boring things if you dont mind
23:31 _83: some boring thing s
23:33 Smokeman: like 3 things ~
23:33 Smokeman: not really doing a lot of IRC so sorry if this gets messy 
23:33 Smokeman: the map is so clean to the point i that i could wipe my ass with it and would feel bad about it
23:34 _83: was that #1?
23:34 Smokeman: not really
23:34 Smokeman: thats a compliment i guess
23:35 Smokeman: the ending :deciduous_tree: 
23:35 Smokeman: eh
23:35 Smokeman: the ending 01:23:401 - 
23:35 _83: I don't know much about trees
23:35 _83: yes
23:35 Smokeman: why did i have that int he clip board is byond me but lets continue
23:36 _83: ok lol
23:36 Smokeman: so its pretty cool and all, but for a "medium" level insane its quite a challange to read
23:36 Smokeman: most people are going to drop there
23:36 _83: y es
23:37 Smokeman: i would suggest you do something like this to indicate how many circles you gonna click so its sight readable even for people on the level of insanes (sec need to do the pic xD)
23:39 Smokeman: https://puu.sh/x622r/9f1c5273b6.png
23:40 _83: psuedo stacks
23:40 Smokeman: https://puu.sh/x625t/5a77603e87.png
23:40 Smokeman: baisicly some gimmick like this
23:41 _83: but then I have no real point for SL 2
23:41 Smokeman: kinda
23:41 Smokeman: it still works on the rest of the diff pretty good
23:41 Smokeman: this is just a really extreme use 
23:42 Smokeman: you could use more space to help the reading aswell
23:42 Smokeman: like 01:25:520 (6,7,8) - are somewhere else from 01:24:705 (1,2,4) - 
23:42 _83: what if I want the reading to be ghey
23:43 Smokeman: but you have that minimal space usage going on aswell
23:43 Smokeman: in my book you would get away with this, but most BNs would nazi on this because its extreme :(
23:44 _83: m o s t bns
23:44 _83: (are suck)
23:45 Smokeman: in short: its quite a read heavy part which would turn off most people of the target player group (how is this only 4.2 stars)
23:45 _83: I did stack thing on purpose kind of want to keep it, plus bns who looked so far haven't really said its an issue or anything lol
23:46 Smokeman: yo than its fine \o/
23:46 _83: jej
23:46 Smokeman: i woudl nazi you on this if i was BN >:)
23:46 Smokeman: (just to get you to explain your concepts tbh)
23:47 _83: my grandfather was a nazi sympathizer
23:47 _83: great grandfather (
23:47 Smokeman: all is good in the world
23:47 _83: *
23:48 Smokeman: next thing and prolly last unless i remember what the third one was
23:48 Smokeman: 01:11:662 (1,3) - overlap nazi
23:48 Smokeman: nigga i misread
23:49 _83: n1gga
23:49 _83: ?
23:50 _83: misread? overlap ?
23:50 Smokeman: my problem is: its like the start of that dope ass stream part and its covered by that sliderbody because you use such a low AR 
23:50 _83: :b r a i n :
23:51 Smokeman: did you have someone check hitsounding ?
23:51 _83: so ur problem is the overlap
23:52 _83: define check
23:52 _83: cuz bn's looked and stuff and are almost spaghetti to qualify
23:52 Smokeman: go over it to make sure you didnt misplace some clap or smth
23:52 _83: 01:03:509 (6) - ?
23:53 _83: https://bor.s-ul.eu/OwlNqiUB.png
23:53 Smokeman: ok sec will go over it real quick
23:56 Smokeman: 00:27:640 (3) - 00:32:857 (3) - is this intended ?
23:57 Smokeman: one you have drum hitsounds and on the other auto
23:57 _83: legend
23:58 Smokeman: 01:16:553 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - nig
23:58 Smokeman: you forgot to hitsound
23:59 Smokeman: 01:23:401 (1) - and you used normal-hitwhistle
23:59 Smokeman: are. you. insane.
23:59 _83: normal-hitwhistle
23:59 Smokeman: the actual whistle sound
00:00 _83: I love thoughs
00:00 Smokeman: really stands out to me cause i hate it with every part of my body
00:00 _83: I used to have one on 00:57:314 (1) -
00:01 Smokeman: it wouldnt surprise me if i mentioned it
00:01 Smokeman: in my first mod
00:02 _83: https://bor.s-ul.eu/Qu1kjImn.png
00:02 Smokeman: mah boi smoke
00:02 Smokeman: thats me
00:02 Smokeman: also
00:02 Smokeman: 01:21:607 - add a whistle on this
00:03 _83: ey
00:03 _83: true
00:03 Smokeman: kinda wierd it doesnt have something 
00:04 _83: I'm keeping that gay whistle
00:04 _83: cuz I really like it
00:04 Smokeman: ghey
00:04 Smokeman: i am trying to understand your hitsounding pattern on that last part
00:04 Smokeman: brb
00:06 Smokeman: 01:24:705 (1) - add a finish. I think it would make the part more cohesive 
00:06 Smokeman: i know music doesnt really "support" that but yea
00:06 _83: but no cymbal
00:06 _83: report
00:06 Smokeman: ik but that long lasting TISHSHS
00:06 Smokeman: from the hitsound
00:07 Smokeman: its kinda gasm
00:07 _83: s u r
00:07 _83: I'm not hitsounding legend
00:07 Smokeman: 01:23:890 (4,5,6) - these should be the same with 01:25:194 (4,5,6) - 
00:07 Smokeman: 01:25:846 (8) - whistle mia
00:09 _83: did
00:09 Smokeman: 01:26:173 (2,2) - i dont quite get these
00:10 _83: 01:27:477 (2) -
00:10 _83: d
00:10 Smokeman: but drum-hitfinish is kinda meme to me
00:10 Smokeman: isnt it like
00:10 Smokeman: a bigger Tom or smth
00:10 _83: color stream
00:10 _83: yesh
00:11 Smokeman: lest go with do the same on both :dab:
00:11 _83: diddid
00:12 Smokeman: oh w8 i cant get kudos cause i already did mod this
00:13 _83: (agre)
00:13 Smokeman: ehm so about the map in general
00:13 Smokeman: it feels too good for an anime opening tbh
00:13 Smokeman: refined
00:13 Smokeman: ya know
00:13 _83: h m
00:13 _83: only took like hour + 30 minutes
00:13 _83: :^)
00:13 Smokeman: ya its simple
00:13 Smokeman: but not like
00:14 Smokeman: simple in construction
00:14 Smokeman: but not like
00:14 _83: did you catch the j o k e in the intro with drums stuff
00:14 Smokeman: circular flow memes
00:14 _83: 00:26:010 -
00:14 Smokeman: w8 i think i did mention this
00:14 Smokeman: but not in the mod
00:14 Smokeman: to someone else
00:15 Smokeman: the guy with the spongebob bg
00:15 _83: this was not same as befor
00:15 Smokeman: hmmm
00:15 _83: is quadrants
00:16 Smokeman: this gives me supercell flashbacks holy shit
00:16 _83: supercell
00:16 Smokeman: thisisntevenmyfinalform
00:17 _83: jej
00:17 _83: quandrant meme is something I does a lot
00:17 Smokeman: madman
00:18 Smokeman: u really dont like having objects in the center of the map doe 
00:18 Smokeman: ssomehow get that edge feeling when playing
00:18 _83: h m
00:19 Smokeman: 01:16:879 (1,2,3,4) - btw did you catch these ?
00:19 Smokeman: missing hitsounds and all
00:19 Smokeman: just to make sure
00:20 Smokeman: btw shouldnt you put _83 in the tags now ?
00:20 Smokeman: or both 
00:20 _83: ye
00:20 _83: did first thing
00:20 _83: second thing is host problem /shrug
00:21 Smokeman: 00:12:161 - can delete these aswell
00:21 Smokeman: greens
00:21 Smokeman: nazi modding: on
00:22 _83: greens : not unrankable
00:22 _83: i don't fuck with no bars
00:22 Smokeman: i can drop my bars any time
00:22 Smokeman: watch out!
00:24 _83: kek

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I LOV E AN I EME
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