Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
vote: abraker
vote: abraker
That's what I told myself when I lynched dawnsday last game. Now look at me, I'm voting for myself.johnmedina999 wrote:
Also, I agree with everyone else, if we get nowhere by the end of the mafia day, just lynch Zekks, because there is a 2/9 chance we can be lynching scum, and it's better to lynch someone than not lynch anyone at all.
But why John? And why zekks? What were your thoughts between the connection between the twoLincolm wrote:
I asked about John again because Zekks already gave his opinion about me and Foxtrot, the other one who involved was John but he didn't say anything about him, so I asked about John to Zekks again.
Something that mafia would conveniently bandwagon on without hesitation while giving a non critical reason to.Lincolm wrote:
because PoE (L-3)
What do you mean you have no choice? If you're town you would have all the reason in the world to defend yourself from being lynched, because more town = good. The only reason I see you giving up is if you're Mafia, or extremely lazy, and both of those options are anti-town. You're getting suspicious.abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
self-vote
No, you do have a choice. And that choice is not to off yourself. Are you trying to do this to make yourself more believable?abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
vote: abraker
johnmedina999 wrote:
What do you mean you have no choice? If you're town you would have all the reason in the world to defend yourself from being lynched, because more town = good. The only reason I see you giving up is if you're Mafia, or extremely lazy, and both of those options are anti-town. You're getting suspicious.abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
self-vote
Foxtrot wrote:
No, you do have a choice. And that choice is not to off yourself. Are you trying to do this to make yourself more believable?abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
vote: abraker
Dulcet wrote:
yeah, we do have PRs, but what makes you think Zekks is one and not just vanilla? Just chance?
Aight, ty anyway.Hika wrote:
Also, self voting strategy shouldn't be mentioned here. Maybe google it cause we're currently in game and dont want mafia doing anything with that information.
I don't like this.johnmedina999 wrote:
There isn't much else to work with right now so I say it's a good option.
Also, I agree with everyone else, if we get nowhere by the end of the mafia day, just lynch Zekks, because there is a 2/9 chance we can be lynching scum, and it's better to lynch someone than not lynch anyone at all.
No.Foxtrot wrote:
Honestly, I don't know. Is PoE any efficient?
Like it will achieve something if you're town. Good game, I'm sticking my vote right now. And it is L-2 with your self-vote.abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
vote: abraker
As I said already, Zekks alarmed my radar with "idc" post so I particularly need information coming out from him.abraker wrote:
But why John? And why zekks? What were your thoughts between the connection between the two
I want to know your read on everybody here.
So what? No one pressure. No one pushing. Waiting more contents. PoE is less accurate thing to find scum, but is there any accurate method to find scum without power role? Is it wrong to use PoE? Why is L-3 (or maybe you thought it was L-2) a dangerous thing for you? even rEdo (plus someone if you really thought it was L-2) doesn't tell explicitly why did he vote you.abraker wrote:
Something that mafia would conveniently bandwagon on without hesitation while giving a non critical reason to.
voting because activity is something I really don't like. Same with inactivity. Your votes seem to have little basis and just go with the bandwagon.Lincolm wrote:
If rEdo didn't vote him, I would still vote abraker because he is more active than Zexion.
*Unless it's pushing them to be more activeabraker wrote:
Same with inactivity
Slight correction: He bandwagons with no real justification, and makes it seem like it is a normal thing to do. I get it if you are trying to choke out activity or info, but it doesn't make sense otherwise.abraker wrote:
Lincolm: The only problem is that he bandwagons with no real justification. Just declare a bandwagon, he will be second to hop on it
abraker wrote:
@John
Your reads?
i'll wait for you to explain thisDawnsday wrote:
Hika - Actually one of my strongest "gut" feelings I've had in a mafia game thus far. Everything Hika posts rubs me the wrong way, I'm going to link specific posts eventually (pressed for time here atm) but a lot of what she posts just FEELS SO "LAMIST" to me, I'm willing to accept I'm probably wrong on this one and I'm just being paranoid but it's a read and I have it so that's that. Keeping in null because there's nothing I have beyond my gut.
Strikes me as a LAMIST post mainly due to the "dont want mafia doing anything with that information". Just feels like such a weird addition to the sentence in general, ending at "we're currently in game" would've been acceptable but the last bit seems to be tacked on solely to remind us you're not mafia.Hika wrote:
Also, self voting strategy shouldn't be mentioned here. Maybe google it cause we're currently in game and dont want mafia doing anything with that information.
Oh okay, I do agree with that.Hika wrote:
Also Zex, when i said anti town > scum, I meant it as a way like "sure he's anti town to me right now but I'd rather not vote for his lynch when we could be scum hunting"
hope that clears it up.
AFAIK Hika has never been too expresive, she usually goes with only a few lines per posts not explaing ideas a lot. I do agree with that statement anyways: if you have a plan which involves self-voting, you have to go to the end otherwise it will be for nothing. Same goes with reaction testing or stuff like that.Dawnsday wrote:
Strikes me as a LAMIST post mainly due to the "dont want mafia doing anything with that information". Just feels like such a weird addition to the sentence in general, ending at "we're currently in game" would've been acceptable but the last bit seems to be tacked on solely to remind us you're not mafia.Hika wrote:
Also, self voting strategy shouldn't be mentioned here. Maybe google it cause we're currently in game and dont want mafia doing anything with that information.
You're not forcing me to do anything don't worry! I'm back from drinking so I'll post a bit.Dawnsday wrote:
Strikes me as a LAMIST post mainly due to the "dont want mafia doing anything with that information". Just feels like such a weird addition to the sentence in general, ending at "we're currently in game" would've been acceptable but the last bit seems to be tacked on solely to remind us you're not mafia.
Also upon actually rereading you don't have as many posts I find questionable as I seem to have remembered. You're probably still pretty null for me honestly. Sorry for forcing you to do stuff on your drinking night, I'm just giving my honest views!
also @mod can we have a votecount
I'm probably shooting myself in the foot by latching on Zekks's claim, but it's hard because there's not much content going on. But what other choice do I have, especially on D1? Like I said, I voted Zekks to get a reaction out of them but I got nothing. I might back down if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of new players tend to lurk the game when they have a mafia role, probably because it's a bit harder to play with a role like that.Zexion wrote:
So... foxtrot was the first one to vote Zekks after he claimed no mafia can stop him. I'm really interested why he considered so much about this being scum indicative, these kind of claims can't be resolved D1 because there's just too much risk. Him not answering questions is a totally different matter tho. Are the rest of such wagon just oportunistic?
I understand that it's your night out so I won't pressure you but next time please write your thoughts in a more detailed way, and provide more information as to why you think that way. This is still rather vague to me.Hika wrote:
Lets just say in my opinion, I see it as a shitty town confirming tactic as well as a ballsy scum move. As I said before, I'd rather have an anti town than a scum deceiving me but if that anti town is being extremely counteractive in our scum hunting, I'd be willing to get rid of them D1 to save town the trouble of being confused later on down the road.
Who?Hika wrote:
I have more people in the red rather than green, sad to say
Yeah, there wasn't much more for content progression but you repeated the same thing... quite a few times. Your vote was kind of right tho, because that brought up the stronger claim. I definitely won't be up for a Zekks lynch right now, because new players also tend to be intimidated of the on-going discussion, there's a lot of question directed to him unaswered tho, but until he comes back, I can't be sure if he is still dodging them.Foxtrot wrote:
I'm probably shooting myself in the foot by latching on Zekks's claim, but it's hard because there's not much content going on. But what other choice do I have, especially on D1? Like I said, I voted Zekks to get a reaction out of them but I got nothing. I might back down if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of new players tend to lurk the game when they have a mafia role, probably because it's a bit harder to play with a role like that.Zexion wrote:
So... foxtrot was the first one to vote Zekks after he claimed no mafia can stop him. I'm really interested why he considered so much about this being scum indicative, these kind of claims can't be resolved D1 because there's just too much risk. Him not answering questions is a totally different matter tho. Are the rest of such wagon just oportunistic?
And abraker is already voting for himself for the sake of PoE and he genuinely thinks that's gonna help town in the long run, but that's just dumb. It's not worth losing two town people over this.
Unless he wants to make us think that he's town, so it'd make sense if he's scum trying to gain our trust by doing something reckless,, claiming that it's for the greater good of town. That's why he's not backing down. That possibility doesn't sound too unrealistic. I'm glad people are wary of his actions.
By good analyses I was thinking of back in the beginning of the game, but you're right about recent posts not having much content. As for why I think she's town...her posts don't seem scummy, maybe she's pushing the Zekks train too hard after most decided to leave it for now (most of her longer, more recent posts have something to do with Zekks), but again, she doesn't really seem like she's mafia.Zexion wrote:
@John, @Dawnsday: why is Foxtrot so town? Going through her ISO shows little content in her lasts posts, last thing was the accusation to Zekks which I kinda understand but I don't see how she "analyses players very well". I do agree with she moving the game forward.
That's because he's the most active in my could-be-scum-list, and I wanted to pressure him to fish out his reaction. That's how I usually (and I think that's how people should generally) use my vote. Why specifically abraker? He has shown that little information I could work him. I thought of pressuring john first, but then I realised he could scumslip by trying to get back on the Zekks wagon, because that seems like the easiest lynch scum could pull out today. And hell, that's what happened.Foxtrot wrote:
Zexion wrote:
Besides, why did abraker vote himself after rEdo if he could have just done it without someone else triggering it? I asked rEdo why he chose abraker and he asked me who would I have chosen instead. I straight up told him I don't know. But he also didn't answer my question, instead asking me another one, and that's a way to dodge a question as well.
so let me ask you again rEdo, why abraker?
loljohnmedina999 wrote:
I just noticed that quite a few people are still worried about the Zekks train so I take that bit back.
It is normal things to do in MS, but MS has 2 weeks for the day. It makes sense for me. You bandwagon people, you get his reaction, you get interaction between people why did they pressure that person initially and why didn't they pressure him. You townread him, you unvote.abraker wrote:
Slight correction: He bandwagons with no real justification, and makes it seem like it is a normal thing to do. I get it if you are trying to choke out activity or info, but it doesn't make sense otherwise.abraker wrote:
Lincolm: The only problem is that he bandwagons with no real justification. Just declare a bandwagon, he will be second to hop on it
I want you to respond this.Lincolm wrote:
So what? No one pressure. No one pushing. Waiting more contents. PoE is less accurate thing to find scum, but is there any accurate method to find scum without power role? Is it wrong to use PoE? Why is L-3 (or maybe you thought it was L-2) a dangerous thing for you? even rEdo (plus someone if you really thought it was L-2) doesn't tell explicitly why did he vote you.
Why are you suddenly referring this?Hika wrote:
also i just think it looks bad on lincolm to vote me after he sees a vote already on me, referring to an earlier page
Isn't the fact that somebody left a question unanswered also a valuable information to work with?Lincolm wrote:
Uhh.. there is also many questions to ask to you but my bet you won't respond them.