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DJ Manian - Welcome To The Club

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tieff
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tieff
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年1月4日 at 20:18:13

Artist: DJ Manian
Title: Welcome To The Club
Tags: Natteke
BPM: 150
Filesize: 3767kb
Play Time: 02:19
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.25 stars, 129 notes)
  2. Hard (4.89 stars, 414 notes)
  3. Natteke (3.5 stars, 173 notes)
Download: DJ Manian - Welcome To The Club
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Welcome
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[DBF]
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[DBF]
Star~
Natteke
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Natteke
Rokodo
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Rokodo
Welcome To The Taiko

http://puu.sh/hXn
dNextGen
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dNextGen
O:
La Cataline
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La Cataline
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Ultimate
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Ultimate
Eeh man!

Bpm really sux on this map for me.. i've got this so far:

BPM1: 150,010
Offset1: 185

BPM2: 150,060
Offset1: 67.365

BPM3: 150,000
Offset1: 115.393

I'll take a look @ it asap to readjust to 1 bpm if possible..
tieff
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tieff
Thanks you.

00:53:781 (1) - Timing is off here too.

I hope I don't need to kill this map because of timing.
wmfchris
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wmfchris
[taiko]
though the timing makes the diff changes during 0:54 and 1:54 but it's not the problem. Anyway nice.

[hard]
0:42:582 (3) make this parallel with (4)?
1:55:195 (4,5) left 1 grid?

[Natteke]
0:36:182 (3,4) left 1 grid
2:18:173 (2,1,2) unsnapped?

>w< star
Ultimate
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Ultimate

tieff wrote:

Thanks you.

00:53:781 (1) - Timing is off here too.

I hope I don't need to kill this map because of timing.
eeh man,, i'll have a few other ppl also take a look @ it.
don't let it die yet xD, song is good. we just need to take care of
the timing.

grz ultimate
deadbeat
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deadbeat
easy
i'd turn the HP drain up to 2 and lower the OD and OR. 5 it too high for a easy

also delete osb

but yeah. nice map :)
Shinde
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Shinde

deadbeat wrote:

also delete osb
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=38547

Also, Hard's really fun DT. Nice map tieff. I haven't redownloaded since more diffs were added, just wanted to stop by n say nice work.
DeadAlready
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DeadAlready
welcome :P
star~ :D
Reiji-RJ
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Reiji-RJ
star
Natteke
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Natteke
Approximate timing. Not sure if it's 100% currect.

Download: Manian - Welcome to the Club (tieff) [Timing].osu

Download: Manian - Welcome to the Club (tieff) [Natteke].osu
Andrea
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Andrea
[Overall]

Set a preview point on every difficulty.

[Difficulties]

[Easy]

01:55:341 (1) - This note is not correctly placed into the timeline.

[Natteke]

01:41:219 (1) - Never start spinners on blue ticks if not necessary.
02:06:885 (2,3,4,5) - I'm not sure about these sliders. Try something different?

[Roko-Don's Taiko]

You have 936 unsnapped notes on this difficulty. Resnap all notes and recheck them carefully.

That's all, timing seems pretty good to me since I can SS easily every difficulty without any problem.
Natteke
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Natteke
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Download: DJ Manian - Welcome To The Club (tieff) [Natteke].osu
Andrea
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Andrea
After some IRC suggestions and adjustments...

Bubbled~
Andrea
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Andrea
Since tieff forgot to remove Rokodo from the tags he updated it so I'm going to say that I'll...

Bubble Repair~
Alace
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Alace
I still think the timing is super off
LYBY HELP!!!!

the mapset is awesome
James2250
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James2250
If timing actually does need fixing can you raise hp slightly and lower AR/OD on Easy? :P

I don't really think stats like that work well, high AR/OD but 0 hp drain (you can ignore if you disagree)
Alace
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Alace
this timing is better than the old one, but it is not perfect, i think some parts are really hard to time
150.00 182
150.06 28982
150.13 41776
149.00 108927
149.98 115367

thanks for statementreply`s great help
Natteke
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Natteke
In some parts timing changes 1/2 before the red offset ._.
DJ MANIAN WHY DID YOU SCREW THIS SONG SO MUCH!?
Antu Villegas
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Antu Villegas
Star~
Legalist
Legalist
Star ;3
Hyde
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Hyde
nice. star :)
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
Unless I'm incredibly bad (which might be the case) Alace's timing seems fine.

I'll try to get a for sure ok on the timing though since I'm only able to play with mouse right now and cant really test a map. Star for now.
Alace
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Alace
i will recheck it when i go back to taipei city
Lnzr_old
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Lnzr_old

;)
SaKaS
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SaKaS
star!!!
Nadina120
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Nadina120
played easy normal hard

i think the drain is way to fast on the hard map and has no time to recover.

makes me feel like omg give up..not try harder..

fully like it in every other way inc back ground and placement of map .

found them very good all i can say is my comment about how quick the fail is on the hard map.

star.....coz may be ..I am just not good enough player
Breeze
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Breeze
Eh, timing of [Easy] is still different to other 2 diffs
Just fix that and I will back for a full mod then :s
Natteke
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Natteke
I love your ava, breeze
Agnes
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Agnes
Hi. After a bit of checking through...

Bubbled.
Come back at me if it gets popped.
tieff
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tieff
Thanks!
Aleks719
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Sorry, popped. I'll post here correct timing (wip now)
It won't take a lot of time~

1. Offset: 180ms BPM: 150,00
2. Offset: 28 983ms BPM: 150,20
3. Offset: 67 344ms BPM: 150,15
4. Offset: 102 491ms BPM: 149,00
5. Offset: 115 358ms BPM: 150,00
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tieff
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tieff
Ok, I'll be waiting.
TicClick
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TicClick
Well, that's what we've got after a conversation and series of test with Aleks719:

1. Offset: 180ms BPM: 150,00
2. Offset: 28 983ms BPM: 150,20
3. Offset: 67 344ms BPM: 150,15
4. Offset: 102 491ms BPM: 149,00
5. Offset: 115 358ms BPM: 150,00

The last one is a lil' bit earlier now, the second one has faster bpm.
Agnes
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Agnes
Looks like I have to revisit for a recheck. Checking again.

EDIT: Just come at me again when everything is fixed ffff-
or Aleks will go in for the rebub. Either way, good luck 'Teke and tieff o/
Aleks719
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Aleks719
well, all seems fine now! Бульбаед!
Agnes
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Agnes
thank god.
Natteke
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Natteke
No, thank Agnes, Aleks and TCC
lolcubes
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lolcubes
Was called on an opinion about timing and this is what I got:

150bpm 180offset
150,150bpm 28983offset
149bpm 107310offset
150bpm 115375offset
150bpm 179370offset

With your previous offsets, you can even hear parts like 01:02:804 (4,5,6,7) (in the hard diff) being too early. Same with the end of the song, from 02:16:958 onward.
Try these new offsets, I found them much better (I actually finished the map with under 10% mistimed hits with these timings with a SS :P).

Call me back once you change your stuff so I can rebubble this and someone else takes a more detailed look. :)

edit: Changed one number slightly. Also check the pic, I started playing around 1:40 or so where I intentionally missed the first note so I start on a slider (which eliminates the first click lag). Used my timings (this was hard diff btw).
SPOILER
Aleks719
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Heya, Lolcubes.
Absolutely disagree with you~
Check this map, same mp3, same timing from me and TicClick, map is bubbled. Checked by Odaril.
We worked together with TicClick and Odaril checked us, so i think that six ears better than two. Timing is fine as is.

SPOILER
i got with my/TicClick timing on normal diff. OD9 ofc, not like in diff

Edit : okay, let's wait~
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lolcubes
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Then we have a problem. This should be timed by someone really experienced in that case. You can hear/tell without trying in test mode that certain notes are just too early. I was called here because another BAT who was checking this also thought something is off. In any case, lets atleast wait what naraku has to say about all this (he was the one who called me).

If you don't believe me, try listening 02:33:758 and onward on 25%. The notes just come too early. 6 ears or not, this part is just not consistent to the beginning (where you can't hear anything too early).

edit: I have contacted Doomsday and lets see what he has to say.

edit2:

Aleks719 wrote:

We worked together with TicClick and Odaril checked us
Actually Odaril kinda gave a different timing as well and I agree with his more than with yours (which means your timing got changed over there :D). I still disagree with a certain section (the 150.2 bpm one since it screws one part over) but yeah we have to wait and see.
narakucrimson
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Actually, I was going to mod this and I noticed how the timing was very weird. I asked lolcubes to do the check, so we're two people who disagree with the timing when the map was bubbled. However, we'll try to find a correct timing asap, don't worry :P

Also:

[Easy]
  1. Slider Tick Rate = 0,5 is unrankable. Use at least 1~
tieff
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tieff
Fixed.
I've got a feeling that this map will be dead 'cos of timing.
Natteke
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Natteke
well shit
tieff
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tieff
lolcubes
Sorry, but I won't use your timing.
Natsume
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tieff wrote:

lolcubes
Sorry, but I won't use your timing.
If timing by lolcubes is really right - We should use it.
Little time better than incorrect timing, isn't it? ;)
tieff
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Ok, timing changed
I don't want to argue with BAT
Natteke
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Natteke

narakucrimson wrote:

However, we'll try to find a correct timing asap, don't worry :P
So? D:
lolcubes
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tieff wrote:

Ok, timing changed
I don't want to argue with BAT
It's not about arguing, it's about getting the correct timing.

I apologize that this is handled rather messy, but I hope you understand that this is for the better.

Natteke wrote:

So? D:
As I have said, I am still waiting on Doomsday's reply, and hopefully this is all sorted.
narakucrimson
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Also asap means what it stands for, "as soon as possible". It doesn't mean "right now" :P

Leave it to us, the map won't be dead o/
Andrea
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Current timing (lolcubes' one) is damn perfect, trust me.
lolcubes
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lolcubes
Alright, the timing is sorted I suppose. I checked the diffs and no errors were found. Some slider arrows in Natteke's diff are covered but they are visible in time, just to avoid confusion about it.

Sorry about the mess but it's better to wait a little than having to unrank a map cause of the timing.
Good luck!
TicClick
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Hm-m. Well, at least I know where I was wrong.
Хотя -10~-15 на чужом — это странно
Aleks719
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TicClick wrote:

Hm-m. Well, at least I know where I was wrong.
Хотя -10~-15 на чужом — это странно
Okay, yes.

Вотыменно, вотыменно
narakucrimson
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Congratulations to you and TakamuraRin for getting the same song ranked at the same time. =P
Breeze
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Breeze
oops, I haven't checked this map in time
Congratulations on rank!
Natsume
Natsume
Gratz! :D
Qliphoth_old
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The same songs got ranked in the same time.

Awesome.
Natteke
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tieff
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tieff
Sweet
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson

Qliphoth wrote:

The same songs got ranked in the same time.
Woooaaaaah those are so good news, I didn't know!

Lol jk :P
mancuso_JM_
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Qliphoth wrote:

The same songs got ranked in the same time.

Awesome.
haha :P Congratz!!
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