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Aleks719

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Aleks719 2012-01-02T18:34:39+00:00

Sorry, popped. I'll post here correct timing (wip now)
It won't take a lot of time~

1. Offset: 180ms BPM: 150,00
2. Offset: 28 983ms BPM: 150,20
3. Offset: 67 344ms BPM: 150,15
4. Offset: 102 491ms BPM: 149,00
5. Offset: 115 358ms BPM: 150,00

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tieff

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tieff 2012-01-02T18:47:08+00:00

Ok, I'll be waiting.

TicClick

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TicClick 2012-01-02T19:15:29+00:00

Well, that's what we've got after a conversation and series of test with Aleks719:

1. Offset: 180ms BPM: 150,00
2. Offset: 28 983ms BPM: 150,20
3. Offset: 67 344ms BPM: 150,15
4. Offset: 102 491ms BPM: 149,00
5. Offset: 115 358ms BPM: 150,00

The last one is a lil' bit earlier now, the second one has faster bpm.

Agnes

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Agnes 2012-01-02T19:25:34+00:00

Looks like I have to revisit for a recheck. Checking again.

EDIT: Just come at me again when everything is fixed ffff-
or Aleks will go in for the rebub. Either way, good luck 'Teke and tieff o/

Aleks719

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Aleks719 2012-01-02T21:18:16+00:00

well, all seems fine now! Бульбаед!

Agnes

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Agnes 2012-01-02T21:22:57+00:00

thank god.

Natteke

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Natteke 2012-01-02T22:44:57+00:00

No, thank Agnes, Aleks and TCC

lolcubes

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lolcubes 2012-01-03T03:04:14+00:00

Was called on an opinion about timing and this is what I got:

150bpm 180offset
150,150bpm 28983offset
149bpm 107310offset
150bpm 115375offset
150bpm 179370offset

With your previous offsets, you can even hear parts like 01:02:804 (4,5,6,7) (in the hard diff) being too early. Same with the end of the song, from 02:16:958 onward.
Try these new offsets, I found them much better (I actually finished the map with under 10% mistimed hits with these timings with a SS

).

Call me back once you change your stuff so I can rebubble this and someone else takes a more detailed look.

edit: Changed one number slightly. Also check the pic, I started playing around 1:40 or so where I intentionally missed the first note so I start on a slider (which eliminates the first click lag). Used my timings (this was hard diff btw).

SPOILER

Aleks719

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Aleks719 2012-01-03T07:39:49+00:00

Heya, Lolcubes.
Absolutely disagree with you~
Check this map, same mp3, same timing from me and TicClick, map is bubbled. Checked by Odaril.
We worked together with TicClick and Odaril checked us, so i think that six ears better than two. Timing is fine as is.

SPOILER

i got

with my/TicClick timing on normal diff. OD9 ofc, not like in diff

Edit : okay, let's wait~

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lolcubes

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lolcubes 2012-01-03T08:06:22+00:00

Then we have a problem. This should be timed by someone really experienced in that case. You can hear/tell without trying in test mode that certain notes are just too early. I was called here because another BAT who was checking this also thought something is off. In any case, lets atleast wait what naraku has to say about all this (he was the one who called me).

If you don't believe me, try listening 02:33:758 and onward on 25%. The notes just come too early. 6 ears or not, this part is just not consistent to the beginning (where you can't hear anything too early).

edit: I have contacted Doomsday and lets see what he has to say.

edit2:

Aleks719 wrote:
We worked together with TicClick and Odaril checked us

Actually Odaril kinda gave a different timing as well and I agree with his more than with yours (which means your timing got changed over there

). I still disagree with a certain section (the 150.2 bpm one since it screws one part over) but yeah we have to wait and see.

narakucrimson

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narakucrimson 2012-01-03T12:28:47+00:00

Actually, I was going to mod this and I noticed how the timing was very weird. I asked lolcubes to do the check, so we're two people who disagree with the timing when the map was bubbled. However, we'll try to find a correct timing asap, don't worry

Also:

[Easy]

Slider Tick Rate = 0,5 is unrankable. Use at least 1~

tieff

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tieff 2012-01-03T17:58:21+00:00

Fixed.
I've got a feeling that this map will be dead 'cos of timing.

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Natteke 2012-01-03T18:11:00+00:00

well shit

tieff

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tieff 2012-01-03T19:23:50+00:00

lolcubes
Sorry, but I won't use your timing.

Natsume

Natsume 2012-01-03T19:46:26+00:00

tieff wrote:
lolcubes
Sorry, but I won't use your timing.

If timing by lolcubes is really right - We should use it.
Little time better than incorrect timing, isn't it?

tieff

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tieff 2012-01-03T21:00:54+00:00

Ok, timing changed
I don't want to argue with BAT

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Natteke 2012-01-03T23:12:14+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
However, we'll try to find a correct timing asap, don't worry

So? D:

lolcubes

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lolcubes 2012-01-03T23:48:19+00:00

tieff wrote:
Ok, timing changed
I don't want to argue with BAT

It's not about arguing, it's about getting the correct timing.

I apologize that this is handled rather messy, but I hope you understand that this is for the better.

Natteke wrote:
So? D:

~~As I have said, I am still waiting on Doomsday's reply, and hopefully this is all sorted.~~

narakucrimson

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narakucrimson 2012-01-04T00:25:06+00:00

Also asap means what it stands for, "as soon as possible". It doesn't mean "right now"

Leave it to us, the map won't be dead o/

Andrea

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Andrea 2012-01-04T00:27:17+00:00

Current timing (lolcubes' one) is damn perfect, trust me.

lolcubes

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lolcubes 2012-01-04T00:41:23+00:00

Alright, the timing is sorted I suppose. I checked the diffs and no errors were found. Some slider arrows in Natteke's diff are covered but they are visible in time, just to avoid confusion about it.

Sorry about the mess but it's better to wait a little than having to unrank a map cause of the timing.
Good luck!

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TicClick 2012-01-04T07:41:47+00:00

Hm-m. Well, at least I know where I was wrong.
Хотя -10~-15 на чужом — это странно

Aleks719

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Aleks719 2012-01-04T14:18:28+00:00

TicClick wrote:
Hm-m. Well, at least I know where I was wrong.
Хотя -10~-15 на чужом — это странно

Okay, yes.

Вотыменно, вотыменно

narakucrimson

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narakucrimson 2012-01-04T16:26:24+00:00

Congratulations to you and TakamuraRin for getting the same song ranked at the same time. =P

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Breeze 2012-01-04T16:35:06+00:00

oops, I haven't checked this map in time
Congratulations on rank!

Natsume

Natsume 2012-01-04T16:40:08+00:00

Gratz!

Qliphoth_old

Qliphoth_old 2012-01-04T16:41:36+00:00

The same songs got ranked in the same time.

Awesome.

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Natteke 2012-01-04T16:46:37+00:00

tieff

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tieff 2012-01-04T17:09:03+00:00

Sweet

narakucrimson

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narakucrimson 2012-01-04T17:46:10+00:00

Qliphoth wrote:
The same songs got ranked in the same time.

Woooaaaaah those are so good news, I didn't know!

Lol jk

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mancuso_JM_ 2012-01-04T17:52:55+00:00

Qliphoth wrote:
The same songs got ranked in the same time.

Awesome.

haha

Congratz!!

Qliphoth_old

Qliphoth_old 2012-01-04T18:24:30+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
Qliphoth wrote:
The same songs got ranked in the same time.
Woooaaaaah those are so good news, I didn't know!

Lol jk

BATs doing jokes :3

Shiro

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Shiro 2012-01-04T18:31:25+00:00

woah another mapset of the same song o.o
and it was ranked at the same time o.o

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MoodyRPG 2012-01-04T18:36:31+00:00

Odaril wrote:
woah another mapset of the same song o.o
and it was ranked at the same time o.o

2012
Anyway congrats

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Natteke 2012-01-04T19:10:38+00:00

Odaril wrote:
woah another mapset of the same song o.o
and it was ranked at the same time o.o

Except that this mapset is over 1 year old

AngelHoney

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AngelHoney 2012-01-04T19:30:07+00:00

Qliphoth_old

Qliphoth_old 2012-01-04T20:01:36+00:00

Natteke wrote:
Odaril wrote:
woah another mapset of the same song o.o
and it was ranked at the same time o.o
Except that this mapset is over 1 year old

More than 1 year.

OnosakiHito

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OnosakiHito 2012-01-04T20:41:06+00:00

It's funny that they got both ranked but: Where is the Taiko?
Don't you think anymore about us? That hurts. D:

Anyway, congratulation.

Natsume

Natsume 2012-01-04T20:43:18+00:00

OnosakiHito wrote:

It's funny that they got both ranked but: Where is the Taiko?
Don't you think anymore about us? That hurts. D:

Anyway, congratulation.