talked about stuff with shurelias diff
a long irc log
16:32 Shurelia: anyway
16:32 Shurelia: map
16:32 *Shurelia is listening to RURUTIA - Phronesis
16:32 Shurelia: oh f
16:32 Log Off Now: ya i need .osz xd
16:32 Shurelia: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1149884
16:32 Shurelia: diff : https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/q1Z2A6W7
16:33 Log Off Now: mfw .osu
16:33 Shurelia: xd
16:33 Log Off Now: oh
16:33 Log Off Now: this isnt ar8 is it
16:34 Shurelia: ofc not
16:34 Shurelia: lo
16:34 Log Off Now: wait wtf
16:34 Log Off Now: why is ar3 so fast
16:34 Shurelia: idk rofl
16:34 Log Off Now: uh first thing i can say
16:34 Log Off Now: your sv is pretty high
16:34 Shurelia: 0.8 is pretty high
16:34 Shurelia: hmm
16:34 Shurelia: 0.6 then?
16:35 Log Off Now: 0.6-0.7
16:35 Shurelia: kk, I can remap this fast
16:35 Shurelia: prob 0.6
16:35 Shurelia: just to be safe
16:35 Log Off Now: 00:44:585 (2,3,4,5) - this is where i bet a lot of sr comes from
16:35 Shurelia: as i thought
16:35 Log Off Now: circles are easier for noobs to play, but it increases sr a lot
16:36 Shurelia: oo, do you think
16:36 Shurelia: it's possible for me
16:36 Shurelia: to nerf this
16:36 Shurelia: without changing the SR?
16:36 Log Off Now: uh
16:36 Log Off Now: ya
16:36 Log Off Now: easily
16:36 Log Off Now: this diff is super dense
16:36 Shurelia: ayy
16:36 Shurelia: good the
16:36 Shurelia: 00:44:585 (2,3) - I can change this into 1/1
16:36 Log Off Now: 00:02:256 (3,4,5) - eg this could be a 1/1 slider and a circle
16:37 Log Off Now: easy diffs you should focus on hitting one prominent part of the music as simply as possible
16:38 Shurelia: my thoughts while making this
16:38 Shurelia: cirlce for
16:38 Shurelia: super strong
16:38 Shurelia: vocals/instruments
16:38 Log Off Now: ya
16:38 Log Off Now: i think your rhythm is too dense
16:38 Log Off Now: thats why the sr is high
16:39 Log Off Now: 00:57:585 (1,2) - eg this could just be a 2/1 slider
16:39 Log Off Now: 01:03:585 (4) - this could be a 2/1 slider to follow the held flute
16:40 Log Off Now: the 2nd kiai is pretty good
16:40 Log Off Now: the intro is the easiest place to nerf stuff i think
16:41 Shurelia: i see
16:41 Shurelia: hmm
16:41 Log Off Now: eg 00:06:922 (5) - if you wanna just follow the guitar here
16:42 Log Off Now: make it 1/1 slider and a circle
16:42 Log Off Now: then have a long pause until the next guitar
16:42 Log Off Now: 00:07:922 (1,2) - so you'd remove these two notes
16:42 Shurelia: hoo
16:42 Shurelia: interesting
16:42 Log Off Now: and then you'd probs remove 0.1 sr ish already
16:42 Log Off Now: and you can get away with that because you don't have to follow everything in the music in an easy
16:43 Log Off Now: it also makes it easier for noobs to know what they're playing and make it physically easier because its less clicking
16:43 Log Off Now: thats what i did with solfa/precious wang, pick something to follow
16:43 Log Off Now: make it simple
16:43 Shurelia: i see
16:43 Shurelia: i get it now
16:43 Log Off Now: ignore everything else or follow passively
16:44 Shurelia: gonna do a quick remap
16:44 Shurelia: based on what you mentioned
16:44 Log Off Now: lemme see when you have
16:44 Shurelia: kk
16:44 Log Off Now: the main reason your sr is high af atm is because of note density
16:44 Log Off Now: if you lower that, itll drop a lot, maybe to 1.6 or something
16:45 Log Off Now: maybe even less
16:45 Log Off Now: holy shit fuccho ranked packet hero
16:45 Shurelia: what's the meaning of note density tho
16:45 Log Off Now: wat a god
16:45 Log Off Now: how often a section involves clicking
16:45 Shurelia: it's been there since ages
16:45 Shurelia: lol
16:45 Log Off Now: thats how i interpet it anyway
16:45 Log Off Now: eg for a generic build up in an anime song
16:46 Shurelia: i see
16:46 Log Off Now: you want to build up the amount of clicking you do during the build up
16:46 Log Off Now: so start of with repeat slider or w/e, and end with a stream
16:46 Log Off Now: repeat slider = 1 click or w/e per x amount of notes
16:46 Log Off Now: stream = 1 click per note
16:46 Log Off Now: thats probably a super shitty explanation lol
16:47 Log Off Now: modhelp might be a better place to ask for a better explanation
16:47 Shurelia: it's been a while since my last easy
16:47 Shurelia: naah
16:47 Shurelia: yours are already good enough
16:47 Log Off Now: i've only recently got better because oko senpai gave me tips on precious wang
16:47 Shurelia: whoaa
16:47 Log Off Now: every easy diff i've made since that like 1hr irc have had barely any mods, just blankets
16:47 Shurelia: is he a good teacher?
16:48 Log Off Now: ya
16:48 Shurelia: nice
16:48 Log Off Now: oko is op
17:01 Shurelia: 1.64 atm
17:18 Shurelia: https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/BVLWQZRz only 1.64
17:18 Shurelia: smh
17:18 Log Off Now: wat was the mep called again?
17:19 Log Off Now: n vm got it
17:19 Shurelia: I'm trying
17:19 Shurelia: to fix your vid
17:20 Log Off Now: you could still nerf this a lot xd
17:20 Shurelia: ooo
17:20 Log Off Now: 00:03:922 (1) - also this slider confuses me
17:20 Shurelia: halp
17:20 Shurelia: then
17:21 Log Off Now: because only one point of the slider hits the vocal
17:21 Log Off Now: eh maybe 2 points, but neither of them are the slider head
17:21 Log Off Now: 00:05:589 (2,3) - this could easily be a 2/1 slider
17:21 Shurelia: what should i do
17:21 Log Off Now: idk on that first slider, its weird af timing lo
17:22 Log Off Now: 00:08:588 (2) - if you w anna keep to following the guitar this could be a circle
17:23 Log Off Now: 00:11:254 (1,2,3,4) - this rhythm could be simplified a bit aswell
17:23 Log Off Now: 00:11:254 (1,2) - maybe 2/1 slider idk
17:24 Log Off Now: 00:18:920 (4) - could just be a circle
17:24 Log Off Now: 00:26:920 (4) - same
17:24 Log Off Now: 00:29:919 (4,5) - this could be potentially weird because its the only red tick click so far (and i think the only one in the whole mep)
17:25 Log Off Now: [https://i.gyazo.com/6a3f16b800aa7aff078d04235122bc7b.png maybe something like this could fit better?]
17:25 Log Off Now: 00:34:585 (6) - could be a circle
17:25 Log Off Now: 00:37:585 (4,5) - these should stay as is though because they act as a mini transition
17:26 Log Off Now: tbh if you nerf those that should bring the sr down enough
17:26 Log Off Now: if not you might have to drop to 0.7sv
17:27 Shurelia: another remap attemp .icn
17:27 Log Off Now: rofl
17:27 Log Off Now: 00:00:257 (1,2,3,4) - even this starting section could be simplified a tiny bit
17:28 Log Off Now: [https://i.gyazo.com/b7206b823234928c774bc056ffcf7558.png idea]
17:28 Log Off Now: ok
17:28 Log Off Now: i figured out how to rip that slider
17:29 Shurelia: halp
17:29 Log Off Now: [https://i.gyazo.com/ae41fe4195512845b3ba887ea5da855c.png thats my starting rhythm from 00:00:000]
17:29 Log Off Now: and its 1.62* after just that change
17:31 Log Off Now: 00:15:254 (1) - this could maaaybe turn into just a circle since the vocal switch happens on the red tick afterwards
17:31 Log Off Now: since it cant be clickable because easy rules you could probably justify having a circle + pause