16:28 -kevincela-: wow,the slider tick sound is quite annoying on haku's diff
16:29 Kuria: hmm?
16:29 Kuria: which spot?
16:29 -kevincela-: I think it's just me though lol
16:29 Kuria: he's already adding that even before you gave your first mod though lol
16:30 -kevincela-: yep,lol
16:31 -kevincela-: 00:01:170 (1,2,3,4,5) - this is...well...strange
16:32 -kevincela-: I guess he's changed a bit the pattern,but the initial part of it still doesen't match the singer's chords
16:33 -kevincela-: hmm wait
16:34 Kuria: i think its because of this 00:02:118 (4,5) - 
16:34 Kuria: w8 ill update it
16:35 -kevincela-: wait a sec
16:35 -kevincela-: http://puu.sh/26Caq
16:35 -kevincela-: this could be a solution for now
16:35 Kuria: yeah that what i though too lol
16:36 -kevincela-: yeah,it matches the singer way better
16:38 -kevincela-: 00:13:986 (1) - I guess haku missed a whistle at the end of the slider? other than keeping the 2/1 whistle consistency,it would fit really good with the vocals,so you should totally add one there
16:39 Kuria: d
16:39 -kevincela-: 00:15:634 (1) - same applies for the beginning of this slider
16:40 Kuria: damn editor became weird again
16:40 -kevincela-: 00:27:997 (6) - Another clap at the end should be added. I can clearly hear a drum there,and not using it sounds quite awkward
16:40 -kevincela-: orz
16:40 Kuria: cant change slider shape, its gone by itself (again)
16:41 Kuria: d
16:41 Kuria: ah, its fixed
16:42 -kevincela-: hmm
16:42 -kevincela-: there are some rhythm things which I should point out
16:42 Kuria: im a bit worried for 00:51:568 (1) - 
16:42 -kevincela-: I don't know anyways if Haku will agree or not with them
16:42 -kevincela-: hmm
16:42 -kevincela-: why?
16:43 Kuria: the 1st tick makes me a bit confused there lol
16:44 -kevincela-: you mean the first slidertick?
16:44 Kuria: nah, maybe it just me
16:44 Kuria: ye
16:44 -kevincela-: I don't know why,but with slider tick rate 2 all these ticks sound really exhagerated
16:45 Kuria: i'm ok with that though lol
16:46 -kevincela-: yep
16:46 Kuria: he's using a bit many of long slider there, so i though that tick is quite necessary :P
16:47 -kevincela-: well
16:47 -kevincela-: actually you should use that for the other diffs too
16:48 -kevincela-: as it fits better with the 4/4 structure itself
16:48 Kuria: im already did it lol
16:48 -kevincela-: oh,okay
16:49 -kevincela-: because in the insane diff the tick rate is 1 lol
16:49 -kevincela-: I wish haku was online...
16:49 Kuria: me too orz
16:49 Kuria: w8 ill try to call him
16:51 Kuria: btw is it bad if i use tick 1 for the insanes? o3o
16:51 -kevincela-: well,I'll se later
16:51 -kevincela-: I am focusing on haku's diff for now :p
16:52 Kuria: okay
16:52 -kevincela-: ok,had some discussion with frost
16:52 -kevincela-: and we both agree that the name should be normal+ instead of hard
16:53 Kuria: lolz
16:54 Kuria: i actually the one who ask him to change it to hard diff though xD
16:54 Kuria: since i cant really understand this level of difficulty
16:54 -kevincela-: oh haha
16:54 -kevincela-: well
16:54 -kevincela-: the rhythm is complex
16:54 -kevincela-: but it doesen't anyways feel like a complete hard
16:54 Kuria: but its not hard :/
16:54 -kevincela-: more like a light hard
16:54 Kuria: normal+ then
16:54 -kevincela-: but normal+ would be fine
16:55 Kuria: why not hard- \:D/
16:55 Kuria: lolol
16:55 -kevincela-: lol
16:55 Kuria: yeah, i guess normal+ is fine too
16:55 Kuria: ill change it when im update
17:00 -kevincela-: huh
17:00 -kevincela-: well
17:00 -kevincela-: I have various flow/rhythm suggestions
17:00 -kevincela-: but haku's not here so :U
17:01 Kuria: yea
17:01 -kevincela-: well,let's get on the other diffs in the meanwhile
17:01 Kuria: that moment when i'm really regret of taking a GD's lol
17:02 -kevincela-: so that we can continue looking at haku's diff
17:02 Kuria: yeah ok
17:05 -kevincela-: 00:02:777 (1,2,3) - hmm... The actual whistle pattern is fine,as it follows the piano going to its higher pitch,but with 00:05:414 (1,2,3) - you are switching again your whistle pattern... I would like to have instead the same whistle configuration as you had in the first pattern, as for that piano
17:05 Kuria: what diff is this again?
17:05 -kevincela-: tl;dr whistle at 00:06:403 (2) - and remove it from 00:05:414 (1) -'s end
17:06 -kevincela-: normal
17:06 Kuria: hmm
17:06 -kevincela-: I guess you can leave 00:09:370 (3,4) - as for the pattern ongoing
17:07 Kuria:  yeah sure
17:08 -kevincela-: 00:12:997 (3) - this is more a subjective thing,but what about adding a whistle here to emphatize the piano progressing? I find it to fit quite well there :P
17:09 Kuria:  sure
17:09 -kevincela-: why do you make me find all hitsounds? lol
17:10 Kuria: lol im not ask you to find it
17:10 -kevincela-: lol
17:11 Kuria: i'm still noob at making a good hitsound pattern xD
17:11 -kevincela-: nah
17:17 -kevincela-: 01:44:354 (2,3) - uh,this doesen't really follow good the synth in the background,and it sounds rather strange using 1/1 sliders there :U Making 01:44:354 (2) - a 1/2 repeated slider there would make a bit more sense imho,as of the drum hitting on 01:44:519 - ... I guess that by doing that the whole pattern won't sound anymore strange for that skip
17:18 -kevincela-: I have a little pattern too to share for you
17:18 Kuria: aah this
17:19 Kuria: ok
17:19 -kevincela-: http://puu.sh/26Dhf http://puu.sh/26Djw
17:20 Kuria:  yosh
17:26 -kevincela-: 02:40:728 (3,1) - Well,why are you using 0.7x spacing here? To my eyes it doesen't really make much sense,as there is no musical changement that implies something like that,therefore it could confuse some beginners. I'd say to space it normally,until 1.0x. I have fixed it by myself if you want,take this :p http://puu.sh/26DrI http://puu.sh/26Dtr
17:26 -kevincela-: that's all for the normal diff
17:27 Kuria: hmm
17:27 Kuria: i just made it smaller to make the position fit lol
17:28 Kuria: anyways fix'd, thanks :D
17:29 -kevincela-: lol
17:30 -kevincela-: in byaku's diff
17:30 -kevincela-: 00:52:227 (3) - whoops,you should set the tick to another set
17:30 -kevincela-: As there is no real drum being played there
17:30 -kevincela-: The whole hitsound pattern starts for real at 00:55:854 (1) - ,so I can't see why starting it here :p
17:30 Kuria: silent it?
17:31 Kuria: oh, tick2 is better
17:31 -kevincela-: just use N instead of N:C1 for that tick
17:32 -kevincela-: same goes for 00:54:865 (3) - 
17:32 Kuria: done
17:35 -kevincela-: 01:37:413 - What about adding a note here? It's a really little thing,though it would fit really good with the vocals as a transition,and it would vary a bit the rhythm to avoid that 2/1 pattern being played there :P
17:37 Kuria: ah, sorry was afk a bit
17:38 Kuria: k done
17:38 -kevincela-: 02:23:585 - Again,what about adding a note here? I find it quite strange that byaku has started this refrain on 02:23:914 - ,because it does actually start at 02:23:585 - ,1/1 before that slider,so adding it would definitely solve that
17:39 Kuria: maybe he wanna make a beat variance? :D
17:39 -kevincela-: hmm,maybe
17:39 Kuria: and where should i put this new note?
17:39 -kevincela-: why isn't anyone online aushdasd
17:39 -kevincela-: lol
17:40 -kevincela-: 02:23:585 - 
17:40 Kuria: stack it with next slider?
17:40 Kuria: byaku is usually online 1-2 hours later
17:40 Kuria: idk about haku, he's like never on but acually here all the time
17:41 -kevincela-: well
17:41 -kevincela-: knowing byaku,stacking it would be a bad idea
17:42 Kuria: http://puu.sh/26DWW this?
17:42 -kevincela-: oh nice
17:42 -kevincela-: I have been thinking on another way but this seems nice
17:43 Kuria: yosh
17:43 -kevincela-: 02:44:354 - same
17:44 -kevincela-: but starting from 02:45:013 (1) - seems nice too
17:44 -kevincela-: so it's not really necessary
17:44 -kevincela-: up to you
17:44 Kuria: ill add it
17:45 Kuria: seems better that way
17:45 -kevincela-: okay
17:45 Kuria: i guess he's a bit worried to put it there because it will be hard to folow by noobs lol
17:45 -kevincela-: lol
17:45 -kevincela-: anyways,let's move to the Hard diff!
17:46 Kuria: i dont even know why most ppl must start play this game from easy diff ww
17:46 Kuria: kay
17:46 -kevincela-: 00:12:008 (5) - As the Normal diff,adding a whistle at the end would benefit with the piano chords being insistent there,so consider adding it
17:47 Kuria: hmm yeah you get the point
17:47 Kuria: sure
17:50 Kuria: 01:47:651 (8) -  my error, fix'd already
17:50 -kevincela-: haha
17:51 Kuria: this friggin editor
17:51 -kevincela-: 01:55:892 (1,2) - Orz,not the flow wxpected here
17:51 -kevincela-: you are going upwards while 01:55:563 (7) - is CLEARLY goind downwards
17:51 Kuria: eh? really?
17:52 Kuria: ooh this
17:52 -kevincela-: that breakes its oval flow,and it doesen't play so good as the other patterns imho :U
17:52 -kevincela-: I'd say reversing 01:55:892 (1,2) - would solve the problem
17:52 Kuria: i get this from the mod, and since i dont really feel weird so i put it like that lol
17:52 Kuria: kk
17:52 -kevincela-: lol
17:53 Kuria: the dillema of the skilled player, cant difference between a good pattern and the bad one lol
17:53 Kuria: everything is just like the same
17:53 Kuria: anyway changed 
17:54 -kevincela-: I can distinguish patterns with no problems lol
17:54 Kuria: yeah if you ACTUALLY try to distinguish that xD
17:55 Kuria: mostly ppl can even notice that when theyre playing
17:55 -kevincela-: oh,yeah
17:55 -kevincela-: haha
17:55 Kuria: cant*
17:56 Kuria: that's why some ppl still able to say 22haha's dance diff is great while i just see it a goddamn bad lol
17:56 -kevincela-: lol
17:57 Kuria: is there anything else? :3
17:57 -kevincela-: I am looking lol
18:04 -kevincela-: 01:26:183 (1,2,3) - I can't really understand why your increase of spacing starts here. o.O  Wouldn't it be better if you instead spaced 01:26:183 (1) - away from 01:25:854 (6) - ,by switching the new combo to 01:25:854 (6) - ? I find this quite more reasonable,as the vocals do reach their higher pitch at 01:25:854 - descending to 01:27:172 (1) - ,so I cannot see why exclluding 01:25:854 (6) - from the jump pattern lol. [http://puu.sh/26Ewu Here's what I have done:][http://puu.sh/26ExP see if you like it!]
18:06 Kuria: i wanna start the jump spacing from the inside of the combos, not from the fist note of the combos
18:06 -kevincela-: the new combo thing is just a plus
18:07 -kevincela-: though I would like better starting the jumps from there as of the vocals
18:09 Kuria: yeah i can understand your intention too, but i feel starting the jump spacing from the inside combo is more suited rather than immediately jump after changing to the new combo
18:09 Kuria: i mean, start from 01:26:513 (2) - , which is already inside the new combo
18:09 Kuria: rather than 01:26:183 (1) -  which is the start of the new combo
18:09 Kuria: hope you can understand it >_<
18:10 Kuria: thats why im not make the spacing on 01:26:843 (3,1) -  too
18:10 Kuria: because it was the transition for another new combo
18:11 -kevincela-: 01:30:799 (4) - This is a little thing,though it would help smoothing a bit the flow there: What about moving 01:30:799 (4) - on the place where 01:29:975 (1) -  previously was? I find that quite smoother to play because of it following 01:30:469 (3) - oval flow,which overall offers a better pattern to play.  Here I have fixed the pattern too: here it is! http://puu.sh/26EIk http://puu.sh/26EJg
18:11 Kuria: well, im not do the exact same stuff on all kind of jump pattern, just the one that i feel fit lol
18:11 Kuria: hmm?
18:11 -kevincela-: okay,no problem
18:11 Kuria: yeah sure
18:13 -kevincela-: sexy hard
18:14 -kevincela-: now the insane
18:14 Kuria: wwwwww
18:14 -kevincela-: (this is getting long lol)
18:15 -kevincela-: still haku offline :U
18:16 Kuria: :/
18:16 Kuria: just pretend me=haku
18:16 -kevincela-: 00:12:667 (3) - (beginning) you know whaty
18:16 Kuria: he tell me before to change his part if it doesnt change too much lol
18:16 -kevincela-: oh okay,if that's so
18:16 Kuria: what diff is this?
18:16 -kevincela-: insane
18:18 Kuria: damn wrong setting
18:18 Kuria: 00:23:876 (1) -  im use nc2 from here
18:18 -kevincela-: okay
18:19 Kuria: or nc1 if im use tick 1 lol
18:19 Kuria: actually im using tick 1 to avoid that ticksound lol
18:19 Kuria: because im not use them on the insane diff
18:19 Kuria: thats why im asking you is it bad if i set it to 1?
18:22 -kevincela-: ooh
18:22 -kevincela-: well,tickrate2 does go pretty good with the insane diff imho
18:25 Kuria: lol
18:25 Kuria: ineed to do a huge work on the greenlines if i must change it to tick2 \:D/
18:25 -kevincela-: yeah
18:25 -kevincela-: haha
18:26 Kuria: ill keep the 1 then, is it ok?
18:33 Kuria: is there anything else?
18:33 -kevincela-: okay
18:33 Kuria: ill update it if its done
18:33 -kevincela-: haven't checked yet,wait a sec lol
18:46 Kuria: 780 sec later...
18:46 Kuria: looool
18:49 -kevincela-: 01:03:271 (1,2,3,4) - Huh... That doesen't really follow well any of the instruments. I'd rather follow up the vocals there which are the dominant instrument,by using a different hitsound pattern composed by 1/1 slider+note+1/1 slider and so going... [http://puu.sh/26FFl Here's how I have adjusted the pattern:][http://puu.sh/26FH7 see if you like it!]
18:49 -kevincela-: lol
18:49 Kuria: ahh this crucial spot
18:49 Kuria: actually i've been doing what you said many times b4
18:50 Kuria: and i failed
18:50 -kevincela-: haha
18:50 Kuria: i found that following the vocal here is way more suited 
18:50 Kuria: of course its my opinion
18:51 Kuria: eh, not the vocal, the guitar
18:51 Kuria: yeah, that, if you hear it
18:51 Kuria: you can hear 1/3 beat guitar playing there
18:52 Kuria: actually from the star, that guitar is already there
18:52 Kuria: start*
18:52 -kevincela-: 01:14:480 (2,3,4) - Why this change of spacing? I see no real reason to do that,considering that there is no real musical changement there I would instead make the spacing equidistant here,by placing 01:14:810 (3) - at x:196 y:237
18:52 -kevincela-: anyways okay :p
18:54 Kuria: hmm
18:56 Kuria: no specific reason, i just felt putting the jump spacing between red line and white line is quite nice lol
18:58 Kuria: that spot is fit to add the jump space imo, so i did that :3
18:58 -kevincela-: oh,okay
18:59 *Kuria a bit sleepy ~_~
18:59 Kuria: 1 o clock here, midnight
18:59 Kuria: www
19:00 -kevincela-: orz lol
19:00 Kuria: no worries
19:01 Kuria: as long as i have nothing to do then ill try too keep wake up
19:01 Kuria: somethign*
19:04 -kevincela-: 01:45:673 (1) - What about splitting this slider into 2 1/1 sliders? It's a quite little thing,but I find this to play better with these drums you have in the bg. You could make a pretty nice pattern implying the use of blankets to continue well the pattern. [http://puu.sh/26G4X Here's what I have done]: [http://puu.sh/26G7r See if you like it!]
19:05 Kuria: hmmm
19:05 Kuria: sorry but im not really agree with this >_<
19:05 -kevincela-: with the pattern or about splitting the slider?
19:06 Kuria: pattern
19:06 -kevincela-: oh,you can rearrange that in the way you want :D
19:06 -kevincela-: it was more like an example
19:07 Kuria: im not really sure lol
19:07 Kuria: i'm using 2 repeat slider instead 1/1 slider due of that change of drum rythm on that spot
19:08 Kuria: if you hear it from 01:45:673 - 
19:08 Kuria: the rhythm is changed from there
19:08 -kevincela-: orz
19:08 -kevincela-: I pointed out the wrong slider
19:08 -kevincela-: I meant 01:44:024 (5) - 
19:08 Kuria: cuz of that, im using more 1/2 beat pattern to make it match with the song rhythm
19:08 Kuria: lol this
19:09 -kevincela-: haha,sorry for the trouble
19:10 Kuria: k changed lol
19:10 -kevincela-: haha
19:10 Kuria: looks like youre really good at giving a pattern suggestion lol
19:10 -kevincela-: :p
19:11 Kuria: especially with that codes, wich makes stuff more handy
19:11 -kevincela-: it takes me some time to take them out,but now I'm quick at doing this lol
19:12 -kevincela-: anyways,we're done with the insane diff
19:12 -kevincela-: just haku's diff remaining
19:12 -kevincela-: (finally xD)
19:12 Kuria: lol haku's diff
19:12 Kuria: why not you going to his place, and pointing out everything? \:d/
19:13 Kuria: update?
19:13 -kevincela-: ok,do that
19:13 Kuria: ill change haku's diffname also
19:13 -kevincela-: okay
19:14 Kuria: lol he's come
19:14 Kuria: and gone in 1 second
19:14 -kevincela-: trollhaku
19:14 Kuria: updated
19:15 -kevincela-: he's there
19:15 -kevincela-: yay
19:16 Kuria: enjoy your time \:D/
19:16 Kuria: ill still on for about 30-40minutes and then going sleep
19:16 -kevincela-: okay
19:16 -kevincela-: that should do
19:49 -kevincela-: we're almost done
19:49 Kuria: kk
20:05 Kuria: are you done?
20:05 -kevincela-: haku is fixing
20:05 Kuria: kk
20:06 -kevincela-: after that,I can bubble
20:06 Kuria: \^^/
20:20 Kuria: is he still long? i wamma sleep now ~__~
20:20 Kuria: will be wake up 4 hour later
20:21 -kevincela-: haha,poor you
20:21 Kuria: just leave the link here/ingame pm then lol
20:22 Kuria: almost 3 am already ww
20:23 -kevincela-: I guess Haku's still fixing?
20:24 Kuria: maybe
20:25 -kevincela-: yeah,he's still fixing
20:25 Kuria: already told him
20:25 Kuria: afk now seeyou
20:25 -kevincela-: k

18:26 Kuria: btw, since you're a BAT, can i ask to change the title color of it? :3
18:26 -kevincela-: oh sure
18:26 -kevincela-: which colour?
18:26 Kuria: just make it match with the theme :3
18:26 Kuria: purple or pink i guess
18:26 -kevincela-: ok
18:27 -kevincela-: first I will recheck though :p
18:27 Kuria: yeah
18:30 -kevincela-: anyways
18:30 -kevincela-: normal diff
18:30 Kuria: hmm?
18:30 *Kuria is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205036 ONE OK ROCK - The Beginning [Normal]]
18:31 -kevincela-: 01:11:348 (1,2,1,2) - Not really the best hitsound configuration there. Even if it could fit well with the vocals,it just doesen't follow the drums on the bg as expected :\ I would say starting your 2/1 clap pattern 1/1 after the start of 01:11:348 (1) -  would be a totally better idea,as most of these claps match with the drums being played there
18:31 -kevincela-: 01:11:348 (1,2,1,2) - Not really the best hitsound configuration there. Even if it could fit well with the vocals,it just doesen't follow the drums on the bg as expected :\ I would say starting your 2/1 clap pattern 1/1 after the start of 01:11:348 (1) -  would be a totally better idea,as most of these claps match with the drums being played there
18:31 -kevincela-: 01:11:348 (1,2,1,2) - Not really the best hitsound configuration there. Even if it could fit well with the vocals,it just doesen't follow the drums on the bg as expected :\ I would say starting your 2/1 clap pattern 1/1 after the start of 01:11:348 (1) -  would be a totally better idea,as most of these claps match with the drums being played there
18:32 -kevincela-: so start your 2/1 clap pattern from 01:11:348 (1) - 's repeat?
18:32 Kuria: clap on the repeat then?
18:32 -kevincela-: yes
18:32 Kuria: hmm, yeah
18:33 -kevincela-: but adjust the following patterns too!
18:33 -kevincela-: so 01:12:337 (2) - clap and 01:12:667 (1,2) - 's ends too
18:33 -kevincela-: for the rest,use whistles
18:34 Kuria: done
18:35 Kuria: but im kinda unsure of it due of the hitsound rhythm here is different
18:35 Kuria: than the previous section
18:35 Kuria: 01:07:063 (3,1,2) - 
18:35 Kuria: and 01:09:700 (3,1,2) - 
18:36 -kevincela-:  just switch the claps to their end
18:36 -kevincela-: it makes sense,as of the drum at 01:08:381 - 
18:38 Kuria: how about 01:06:074 (1,2) - , switch it too or just leave it be?
18:38 -kevincela-: nah
18:38 -kevincela-: just the 2 following sliders
18:39 Kuria: im ahhh, yeah
18:39 Kuria: k done
18:40 Kuria: for one one like 01:07:063 (3) - , should i swith it too or use clap?
18:40 Kuria: if i use clap, it will be repeated immediately after the previous one
18:40 -kevincela-: just leave it
18:40 Kuria:  because the clap is on the end slider
18:40 Kuria: k
18:41 -kevincela-: I actually like the 3/1 clap switch there :p
18:41 Kuria: hmm, sounds nice too
18:42 Kuria: im not really used with sound pattern change lol
18:42 -kevincela-: lol
18:43 Kuria: anyways, done
18:43 -kevincela-: okay
18:45 -kevincela-: in byaku's diff
18:45 *Kuria is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205318 ONE OK ROCK - The Beginning [249's Easy]]
18:45 -kevincela-: 01:10:030 (2,3) - Now I noticed,but why this hitsounds change? there is no real difference within the other periods,and even though it does follow the vocals good, I would instead make them the same as the other pattern
18:45 -kevincela-: 01:10:030 (2,3) - Now I noticed,but why this hitsounds change? there is no real difference within the other periods,and even though it does follow the vocals good, I would instead make them the same as the other pattern
18:45 -kevincela-: which means clap to both the ends
18:46 Kuria: idk either \:D/, im not the one who make it lol
18:46 Kuria: w8
18:47 Kuria: done
18:47 Kuria: maan im still dunno why he doesnt wanna use kiai :/
18:48 -kevincela-: np about that
18:48 Kuria: that flashy stuff is what makes this game so epic though xD
18:52 -kevincela-: 02:29:848 - I really don't see any reason on leaving this space blank and not following the vocal chord being played there :U As with 02:30:178 (1,2,3) - byaku has followed all the vocals there,I cannot see why adding a note here to make a transition because of the vocals: it sounds pretty good,and it keeps the rhythm there too!
18:52 -kevincela-: 02:29:848 - I really don't see any reason on leaving this space blank and not following the vocal chord being played there :U As with 02:30:178 (1,2,3) - byaku has followed all the vocals there,I cannot see why adding a note here to make a transition because of the vocals: it sounds pretty good,and it keeps the rhythm there too!
18:52 -kevincela-: 02:29:848 - I really don't see any reason on leaving this space blank and not following the vocal chord being played there :U As with 02:30:178 (1,2,3) - byaku has followed all the vocals there,I cannot see why adding a note here to make a transition because of the vocals: it sounds pretty good,and it keeps the rhythm there too!
18:53 Kuria: cuz it's easy diff so he dont want to make more varance of beats? :D
18:53 Kuria: variance
18:53 -kevincela-: but there it fits so well :U
18:54 Kuria: and which position should i put this note
18:55 Kuria: http://puu.sh/27GjU ?
18:55 -kevincela-: wait
18:55 -kevincela-: that doesen't really flow smooth xD
18:56 Kuria: yeah, because put the 02:28:200 (3) -  liek that lol
18:56 Kuria: he put*
18:57 -kevincela-: wait
18:57 -kevincela-: I have an idea
18:57 Kuria: maybe that's why he doesnt put a note there, cuz the flow is a bit sharp there
18:57 Kuria: sure
18:59 -kevincela-: http://puu.sh/27GrS
18:59 -kevincela-: how is it?
18:59 Kuria: lol that's what i though too
18:59 -kevincela-: http://puu.sh/27GsT
18:59 Kuria: not really seems like byaku's style though ww
19:00 -kevincela-: oh well,xD
19:00 -kevincela-: I canno think on other possible ways
19:00 -kevincela-: *cannot
19:00 Kuria: np
19:02 Kuria: d
19:04 -kevincela-: 01:25:524 (1,2,3) - Here I am being a little bit nitpicky: Anyways,the whole pattern here is not really smooth to play,because of the note placement,which could use some work,considering how 01:25:854 (2) - 's flow gets almost broken in the following pattern 01:27:172 (3,1) - . I have been thinking on another pattern which could flow quite smoother than the actual one,as it follows totally 01:25:854 (2) - 's oval flow. [http://puu.sh/27GBa Here's what I have done], [http://puu.sh/27GCv see if you like it!]
19:04 -kevincela-: 01:25:524 (1,2,3) - Here I am being a little bit nitpicky: Anyways,the whole pattern here is not really smooth to play,because of the note placement,which could use some work,considering how 01:25:854 (2) - 's flow gets almost broken in the following pattern 01:27:172 (3,1) - . I have been thinking on another pattern which could flow quite smoother than the actual one,as it follows totally 01:25:854 (2) - 's oval flow. [http://puu.sh/27GBa Here's what I have done], [http://puu.sh/27GCv see if you like it!]
19:04 -kevincela-: 01:25:524 (1,2,3) - Here I am being a little bit nitpicky: Anyways,the whole pattern here is not really smooth to play,because of the note placement,which could use some work,considering how 01:25:854 (2) - 's flow gets almost broken in the following pattern 01:27:172 (3,1) - . I have been thinking on another pattern which could flow quite smoother than the actual one,as it follows totally 01:25:854 (2) - 's oval flow. [http://puu.sh/27GBa Here's what I have done], [http://puu.sh/27GCv see if you like it!]
19:04 -kevincela-: 01:25:524 (1,2,3) - Here I am being a little bit nitpicky: Anyways,the whole pattern here is not really smooth to play,because of the note placement,which could use some work,considering how 01:25:854 (2) - 's flow gets almost broken in the following pattern 01:27:172 (3,1) - . I have been thinking on another pattern which could flow quite smoother than the actual one,as it follows totally 01:25:854 (2) - 's oval flow. [http://puu.sh/27GBa Here's what I have done], [http://puu.sh/27GCv see if you like it!]
19:05 Kuria: done
19:06 *Kuria cries knowing someone really know what is the good angle T_T
19:06 Kuria: that*
19:06 -kevincela-: lol
19:06 -kevincela-: I prefer calling it "following oval flow"
19:06 -kevincela-: lol
19:07 Kuria: yep
19:10 -kevincela-: in haku's diff
19:10 *Kuria is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/208740 ONE OK ROCK - The Beginning [Haku's Normal+]]
19:10 Kuria: here comes...
19:10 -kevincela-: 00:15:634 (1) - Whistle at the head, haku said me he did it but I guess he has actually forgot to do that
19:11 Kuria: d
19:11 -kevincela-: 01:20:249 (1,2,3) - wtf
19:11 Kuria: yeah wtf
19:12 Kuria: im really surprised too with that when trying it first time
19:12 Kuria: im rather stack it with 01:21:238 (4) -  instead lol
19:12 -kevincela-: I guess it should be placed at x:312 y:212
19:12 -kevincela-: exactly
19:13 Kuria: i though maybe he intended to do that too, but the editor being screwed
19:14 Kuria: because i saw that it was the only part who have jump
19:14 -kevincela-: I think he was totally going to do that
19:14 Kuria: O.O
19:20 -kevincela-: damn at the beginning
19:20 -kevincela-: not the song,haha
19:20 Kuria: 00:01:129 (1,2,3,4,5) -  ?
19:20 -kevincela-: exactly
19:21 Kuria: go this this 00:02:172 (4) -  really on that spot?
19:21 Kuria: is this*
19:22 -kevincela-: wait
19:22 -kevincela-: talking in #lounge about this
19:27 Kuria: ill play some map first until you done :3
19:27 -kevincela-: yeah haha
19:31 -kevincela-: okay
19:31 -kevincela-: fine
19:31 Kuria: yosh
19:32 Kuria: how is it, then?
19:32 -kevincela-: goodù
19:32 Kuria: hakunokaemi master of super detail beatpattern
19:33 Kuria: update>
19:33 Kuria: ?*
19:33 -kevincela-: okay
19:34 Kuria: here we go
19:35 Kuria: d
19:39 -kevincela-: only thing on the hard diff
19:39 Kuria: ?
19:39 *Kuria is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/205021 ONE OK ROCK - The Beginning [Hard]]
19:39 -kevincela-: 02:42:376 (4) - What about adding a new combo here? It fits pretty good,because of the vocal transitions between the refrain and the calm part
19:39 -kevincela-: 02:42:376 (4) - What about adding a new combo here? It fits pretty good,because of the vocal transitions between the refrain and the calm part
19:40 -kevincela-: it is pretty good to distinguish the pattern as well :p
19:40 Kuria: hmm, i do that just to make it consistent with the previous combo pattern lol
19:40 Kuria: yeah, sure
19:42 Kuria: on the last part, i remove the note and move the last slider to 03:01:991 (6) - 
19:43 Kuria: to make it match with the percussion and insane diff
19:43 -kevincela-: oh,nice
19:43 Kuria: is there anything else?
19:44 -kevincela-: checking the insane diff,wait
19:46 -kevincela-: just a little thing,like in the hard diff
19:48 -kevincela-: 01:04:755 (4) - What about moving the new combo from 01:05:249 (1) - to here? I find this a more reasonable choice,as in the current spot you are using the New Combo there is not really anything to base the whole pattern on,starting instead the combo from the downbeat would follow pretty good the vocals and it would play good in a group of opposed sliders like these
19:48 -kevincela-: 01:04:755 (4) - What about moving the new combo from 01:05:249 (1) - to here? I find this a more reasonable choice,as in the current spot you are using the New Combo there is not really anything to base the whole pattern on,starting instead the combo from the downbeat would follow pretty good the vocals and it would play good in a group of opposed sliders like these
19:48 -kevincela-: 01:04:755 (4) - What about moving the new combo from 01:05:249 (1) - to here? I find this a more reasonable choice,as in the current spot you are using the New Combo there is not really anything to base the whole pattern on,starting instead the combo from the downbeat would follow pretty good the vocals and it would play good in a group of opposed sliders like these
19:49 Kuria: for this part, its because i wanna make the wave pattern more specific
19:49 Kuria: so, instead of use the new combo on 01:04:755 (4) - , i put on the next one instead
19:49 -kevincela-: oh,understood your logic
19:50 -kevincela-: okay
19:50 Kuria: :3
19:50 -kevincela-: anyways
19:50 -kevincela-: for the final spinner
19:50 -kevincela-: with the new timing
19:50 Kuria: blame on haku lol
19:50 -kevincela-: I would make it start at03:03:202 (1) - instead
19:51 Kuria: cant click the timestamp o_o
19:51 Kuria: ah, i did
19:51 Kuria: done
19:52 -kevincela-: remember to fix the ending as well xD
19:52 Kuria: yep, done
19:53 -kevincela-: okay
19:53 -kevincela-: update
19:54 Kuria: d
19:54 Kuria: dont forget with the title color too lol
19:54 -kevincela-: baka,you have forgot to fix the spinner as well on the other diffs!
19:54 *-kevincela- runs
19:55 Kuria: eh?
19:55 Kuria: swt
19:55 Kuria: w8
19:55 Kuria: idk if you mean is the whole diff lol
19:56 -kevincela-: byaku's diff has the same spinner as before :I
19:56 Kuria: hmm?
19:57 Kuria: nah, he put it on 03:03:506 -  
19:57 -kevincela-: but it should be put on 03:03:202 -  instead because of the new timing
19:59 Kuria: updated again
20:10 Kuria: wut? idk about this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/79195
20:10 Kuria: lol
20:10 Kuria: since when
20:17 Kuria: btw kevin are we done with the map?
20:17 Kuria: im gonna sleep if we're finish it :3
20:23 -kevincela-: here I am
20:23 -kevincela-: I was having dinner
20:23 -kevincela-: lol
20:23 -kevincela-: which colours did you want for the title?
20:26 -kevincela-: on haku's diff
20:26 -kevincela-: 00:39:700 (1) - Missing clap at the repeat
20:26 -kevincela-: 01:39:739 (5) - Missing clap at the beginning
20:32 -kevincela-: on the hard diff
20:32 -kevincela-: 03:03:506 (1) - you know what
20:35 -kevincela-: fix and I will bubble

19:15 HakuNoKaemi: kevin
19:15 -kevincela-: yay eccoti
19:17 -kevincela-: dimmi quando sei pronto per il recheck
19:17 HakuNoKaemi: vado a vedere cosa c'è nel topic ( mi sembra strano... poichè sono iscritto al topic e dovrebbero arrivarmi i vari post )
19:18 HakuNoKaemi: ah
19:18 HakuNoKaemi: comunque, mi avevano obbligato a cambiare il nome in Hard, ma vedo che avete discusso sul farlo diventare Normal+
19:18 HakuNoKaemi: comunque, son pronto
19:18 -kevincela-: okkei
19:19 -kevincela-: aggiorna,ha ricambiato il nome
19:19 -kevincela-: a normal+ di nuovo
19:19 -kevincela-: ho parlato con dei mat/bat e a loro sembrava più idoneo normal+,così ne abbiamo discusso
19:19 HakuNoKaemi: lo star rating mi gioca sempre brutti scherzi a me ._.
19:20 -kevincela-: dat feeling
19:20 -kevincela-: eh lo so
19:21 HakuNoKaemi: possiamo iniziare :sisi:
19:22 HakuNoKaemi: 00:01:788 (3,4,5) - mi devo rimettere a fixarlo di nuovo, comunque è
19:22 -kevincela-:  sìsì lo so
19:23 -kevincela-: a quanto pare tutta la parte iniziale è 1/8 dopo
19:23 HakuNoKaemi: il 4 è 1/6 dopo e il 5 2/6 ( 1/3 )
19:23 -kevincela-: hmm,sì
19:23 HakuNoKaemi: infatti l'avevo sistemato come un pentagono allungato
19:28 -kevincela-: 00:15:634 (1) - E' una piccola cosa,ma comunque che ne pensi di aggiungere un whistle all'inizio dello slider? Imho ci sta bene col singer,senza tenere conto che tiene la consistenza 2/1
19:28 HakuNoKaemi: oki
19:30 HakuNoKaemi: all'inizio ho fatto in modo da avere http://puu.sh/26GQ8 e poi ho sistemato dopo così http://puu.sh/26GRa
19:31 -kevincela-: 00:35:744 (3) - Hmm... Skippare il tamburo che suona a 00:35:909 - non mi sembra poi una bella idea qui, considerando che li stai seguendo con 00:36:238 (4,5) - . Che ne diresti di renderlo 1/2 più corto,come 00:38:381 (2,3,4) - ? Così seguiresti i tamburi
19:32 HakuNoKaemi: con quelli sto seguendo la chitarra
19:32 -kevincela-: oh,okay
19:33 HakuNoKaemi: (con il (4,5))
19:33 HakuNoKaemi: anche con il 3,4 che hai segnato dopo)
19:34 -kevincela-: sìsì,ho visto
19:38 -kevincela-: 01:17:612 (1,2,3) - Hmm...Qui,invece che usare due slider 2/1 e uno 1/1 avrei usato un pattern diverso,composto semplicemente da slider 2/1 - cerchio 1/1 dopo - slider 2/1 - altro cerchio 1/1 dopo, per seguire le vocali, che qui mi sembra più il caso seguire
19:38 HakuNoKaemi: esco il cane, nel mentre continua a scrivere
19:38 -kevincela-: okay
19:42 -kevincela-: 01:42:211 (4,5,6) - Beh,non è che mi è piacuto tanto il pattern che hai usato con quei slider lineari,non seguono poi tanto bene l'oval flow di 01:41:387 (3) - :x Personalmente,le arrangerei in un altra via,per rendere il flow qui più fluido,usando 2 sliders curvi che continuano con 01:43:035 (1) - [http://puu.sh/26HaL Ecco cosa ho fatto]: [http://puu.sh/26HbN vedi se ti piace!]
19:47 -kevincela-:  02:50:783 (5) - Che ne diresti di seguire qui un po' di più il cantante,rimuovendo il repeat da questo slider e aggiungendo uno slider 3/2 che inizia da 02:51:442 - e finisce a 02:51:936 - ? Secondo me è meglio segire così le vocali :U Se vuoi ho anche un pattern che potresti usare...
19:48 -kevincela-: 03:03:640 (1,2,3) - Hmm,sembra che gli hitobjects siano un po' in anticipo rispetto alla voce del cantante
19:48 -kevincela-: o forse sono solo io
19:49 -kevincela-: 03:03:969 (2) - se senti a 25% puoi sentire la differenza
19:55 HakuNoKaemi: (sono tornato, indicherò quello con cui non sono daccordo solo)
20:21 -kevincela-: allora,come va con la mod?
20:24 HakuNoKaemi: 02:50:782 (5) -  l'avevo fatto iniziare nel rosso perchè la voce del cantante è nel blu

12:28 Kuria: siip
13:31 Niva: hmm, kak
13:31 Niva: Easy
13:31 Kuria: ?
13:31 Kuria: eh sek2
13:31 Niva: 01:22:557 (2) - remove clap soalnya di 02:29:848 (4) - nggak ada clap
13:32 Kuria: ok
13:32 Niva: btw PreviewTime: 74892
13:33 Kuria: set dlu, ntar
13:34 Kuria: dah
13:35 Niva: oh, btw kak
13:35 Niva: di 03:05:481 (1) - 
13:35 Niva: kok rasanya perlu timing section baru ya
13:35 Niva: 116 BPM
13:35 Kuria: hmm
13:36 Kuria: bagian situ cuma haku yg masi naro note
13:36 Niva: pianonya sih
13:36 Niva: 03:05:998 (1) - 
13:36 Kuria: tes dulu
13:36 Niva: pakai BPM sebelumnya agak off sih ini
13:36 Niva: kalau 116, spinnernya juga bisa di-snap ke 1/2 kok (lebih bagus daripada 3/4~)
13:37 Kuria: oo iya iya
13:37 Kuria: ntar set dlu
13:37 Niva: ok~
13:43 Kuria: sip
13:43 Niva: 00:44:975 (4) - Normal
13:43 Niva: new combo? terus di 00:45:634 (1) - remove new combo
13:44 Kuria: ok
13:50 Kuria: haloo?
13:50 Niva: yap?
13:50 Niva: belum nemu apa2 lagi kok :D
13:50 Kuria: wkwkwk
13:51 Niva: Hard
13:51 Niva: 03:01:991 (6) - 
13:51 Niva: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/634526 ?
13:52 Niva: err... entah kenapa itu kelihatannya mirip 1/2 orz
13:52 Kuria: hmm bisa2
13:53 Niva: err, itu Insane diff settingnya nggak ketinggian kak? xD
13:53 Kuria: rasanya kurang greget gimana gitu ngliat star rating dibawah hard xD
13:53 Niva: OD / HP Drain maksudnya
13:53 Niva: ah ok2
13:53 Kuria: iya
13:54 Kuria: malah bru jadi 5 star pas salah satu dinaikin jdi 9 :/
13:54 Kuria: gimana ya?
13:54 Niva: gpp kok, sistem pp bukan dinilai dari star rating mapnya kok 
13:55 Niva: 01:01:953 (4) - ~x:445 y:192?
13:55 Kuria: ok
13:56 Kuria: orz klo hp ditutunin jdi 6 starnya jadi 5
13:56 Kuria: turunin*
13:56 Niva: yap, star rating agak aneh memang ._.
13:56 Niva: umm, biarin aja deh kak :D
13:56 Kuria: okelah
13:57 Niva: umm, kak 02:15:837 (5) - ini mungkin bisa agak digeser ke atas sedikit? supaya nggak overlap
13:58 Niva: sama 02:18:145 (2,3) - 
13:58 Niva: osu.ppy.sh/ss/634532
13:58 Niva: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/634532
13:58 Kuria: wogh gk kepikiran pattern beginian
13:59 Niva: kalau ada jump malah lebih seru di situ kak imo :3
13:59 Niva: yap, itu aja sih kak, ini agak ngantuk soalnya ._.
14:00 Kuria: 02:15:837 (5) -  gmn klo ini sekalian dipasang space jump jg?
14:00 Kuria: yg slider overlap tadi
14:00 Niva: hmm, jadi gimana kak? boleh2 aja sih~
14:01 Kuria: http://puu.sh/2a9Bo gini
14:01 Niva: oh, ok :D
14:01 Kuria: sip
14:01 Kuria: update nih?

17:20 Niva: kak, itu Haku's Normal+ timing sectionnya salah ._.
17:20 Kuria: bagian mana?
17:20 Niva: yang terakhir
17:20 Niva: umm, pakai AIBat aja sih kak
17:20 Niva: harusnya di 03:05:481, BPM of 116.000
17:20 Niva: bukan 03:05:540, BPM of 116.000
17:21 Kuria: ooo
17:21 Niva: yap, nanti akhir spinnernya jadi
17:21 Niva: 03:07:291 :D
17:22 Kuria: diff yg lain gimana?
17:22 Niva: ok sih
17:24 Kuria: sek2
17:24 Niva: sip, kalau udah upload aja btw kak
17:32 Niva: kak, udah?
17:33 Kuria: udah kok
17:34 Niva: 03:05:540 (1) - unsnapped spinner start
17:34 Kuria: khaku?
17:34 Kuria: haku?
17:34 Niva: yap
17:35 Kuria:  sip, udah