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ReFaller

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-03-09T21:51:15+00:00

Tak se pomyślałem przejrzeć twój mod, może coś znajde do mnie i jakoś na farcie znalazłem.

Venix wrote:
hejka
[Bardzo Trudny Wieloautorski]
01:16:321 (5,1) - weź to stacknij znaczy na pewno nie to chcesz żeby zestackował. ale znalazłem coś innego co sie rzuca w oczy

01:19:594 (1) - i serio po jaki chuj mi tu NC XD

Baka bakari wrote:
ReFaller
01:14:958 (2,3) - this needs a jump as to stress the background bass, just like 1-2 did. made a little higher spacing and from this moment i remastered my part because i disliked my own patternings :>

W tym kodzie jest tylko mój part - poszukaj se gdzie to jest hehe

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Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Krfawy 2017-03-10T00:52:53+00:00

About answering the mods: I answered some mods personally in-game, those people were Sieg (IRC), Venix (discord voice chat), deadpon3 (IRC) and Akenoi (IRC). I actually didn't reply properly to other mods yet, however the patterns got remapped and mods from Neoskylove and Janko don't need that much to be answered anymore with anything than "fixed" now. Sorry for delays guys. D; Also applied everything from Cydros and c00kiezecky, thank you guys! o/

Okay, now I am going to reply to Bakarioszka-Pornioszka's mod. \o3o/ If I am not replying to a point it means that I fixed that.

Easy

Well, the guitar may not be followed in the best possible way as I've been using the sldierheads and sliderends to stress them and ticks and reverses to stress the drums/percussion sounds. I am sure the overall composition is still quite nice even if it doesn't follow the guitar as the main instrument. ;3;

Are the patterns really overgeneralized? The testers (newer noobish players) were really satisfied with this difficulty as they could finally play something and (almost or actually) FC something for the first time as easies nowadays are really hardcore and this particular difficulty uses basic but still nice beats and rhythms that follow the song. Surely, the long sliders during the kiais might be quite... easycore... to play, but as some Insanes and Hards need some stressing with incredibly hardcore patterns, some easies might need incredibly easy patterns, and I believe that this is the case. I can't really imagine an easy for this song use anything more demanding. Easies are supposed to be easy, not an introduction to "how to play normals that use 1/2 notes", that's why I created the Normal difficulty and I firmly believe the spread works very well as it is now without making any harder easy difficulty. ,3,

Normal

Krfawy is currently remapping the copy&paste'd patterns
00:53:685 (3,3,3) - But they follow the song nicely and the reverses aren't that tiring for a normal difficulty. ;~; However, I made them more consistent so they are same lenght.
01:55:867 (4,5) - ~~B-but they look nice! D:~~ Improved. ,3,

Hard

00:06:776 (1) - Well, for the playing purposes and the fact that it is not the highest difficulty I'd like to reserve some empty space for the sounds that aren't that important to be mapped, and the actual usage of any notes on the moments you showed in the picture actually break the polarity and the actual rhythm from the map's perspective in a way that doesn't provide the nicest experience possible, so I'd like to keep it as it is now. Some slider pressing didn't killed you... I guess... so I want to keep it, at least for now. X'D
00:34:594 (3,1) - .w. I want to do the vocals emphasis and I think it is nice with this particular pattern... isn't it? D;
02:28:321 (4,1) - 02:36:231 (3,4,1) - I AM SURE NOW THESE ARE FIXED.

Insane
So far I've got the permission from three of the mappers to make changes on their parts, namely: Raikozen(ek), ~~Batwhory Bitch~~ Bathory Witch and Cydros-chan. Also, yesterday I received the permission from Krfawy as well! :3 Also I manually stacked POLACK'S thing in a way that is always easy to revert them back if the mapper doesn't agree with my creation. I hope he doesn't kill me because I moved the second section 8 pixels down and to the right. X'D

Raikozen-chan

00:16:049 (2,1) - Surely, the distances aren't extremely easy but still they happen to be fairly easy even for the beginning of the song and I believe these jumps represent the voice tones in a just perfect fashion, so I want to keep this here, sorry.

Cydros-chan

00:43:049 (4,1) - Even though it might the the demanding jump it surely stresses the tone change of the mood/mode/key (I am not sure which word is more appropriate here; I am no musician, please, don't tease me ;_;) and even if the next note 00:44:140 (2) - is more vivid, the change of the key is more approachable and catchable when there is such a jump, so I want to keep Cydros' pattern here. ;3;

Exile--chan

Actually that is true that Exile- could have mapped the pattern in a similar way just like Faller, POLACK and farto did, however, right now the volume of the song and its power go only down and it doesn't seem that clear or convincing enough for me to change it to something more clickable than it is right now, so I want to keep the patterns from 03:03:503 - here too.

OMG, Bakari, you simply couldn't find more stuff. ;_; Huge thanks for your modderinio! o3o/

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-03-18T04:23:38+00:00

General

There is a huge difficulty gap between the Easy and Normal. Just looking at the rhythm you used, Normal uses an extensive amount of 1/2 rhythms, while the Easy uses only 1/1 rhythms and really long sliders in the chorus sections. This is not good. You either need to heavily nerf the Normal, or provide another difficulty in between the Normal and Easy. Currently I don't think the spread will float xP. Feel free to get other opinions if you disagree though.

Bardzo Trudny Wieloatorski

Raikozen
00:09:776 (4,5) - 1/2 slider sounds better. You could try some parallel slider pattern with 00:10:595 (7) - . But in any case, 5 isn't exactly supported in the song's rhythm.
00:12:776 (5,1,2) - This arrangement is unnecessarily close together imo. You could easily position circle 2 elsewhere, and rotate slider 1 a bit to make the pattern easier to read like all your other patterns have been so far.

Cydros
00:35:958 (4,5) - Stuff like this should be Ctlr+G'ed imo to emphasize the held guitar sound on 00:35:958 - and the other guitar note that lands on 00:36:503 - .
00:41:685 (1,2,3,4) - This spacing just looks rather irregular imo.
00:50:412 (1,2) - Blanket can be better.

Pappy
01:29:140 (4,5,1,2,3) - Don't map those blue ticks. They are not blue ticks, they are a cross between 1/6 snaps, and a bpm shift... they are clearly off. Just map the downbeats, unless Krfawy can realign the wind instrument here (harmonica?? idk)
01:37:321 - Is this necessary?

WujekGrzyh
01:53:685 (1,3,5) - This arrangement is unnecessarily cluttered. Use a cleaner arrangement please.
02:00:231 (1,2,3,4) - Keep spacing consistent? Or ctrl+G 3+4 so players can identify a jump or something.
02:05:412 (2,3,4,5,1) - Same as earlier/ Unnecessarily cluttered imo. Just stack, or use a simpler pattern. The overlaps are unnecessary and make the pattern seem unpolishe.
02:06:776 (1,2) - Visually, space it out more like: So it has a visual consistenxy with 02:07:594 (3,4) -

~

Reazen
02:19:594 (6,1) - This is a huge jump compared to the rest of the map. Please nerf ;c. It's quite out of place.
02:26:413 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - These are so close together the overlap. Make them further apart please. they are doing a poor jump of building intensity going into the kiai. You can definitely use bigger jumps.

fartownik
02:28:321 (1,1) - Unnecesssary overlap imo. Maybe its just a leftover from Reazen's section though. Work things out with him because currently his jump pattern is really small, and it fails to bring out some intensity going into the chorus.
02:38:140 (3,4) - Really big jump that doesnt map to anything significant. 02:38:412 - nothing strong lands on this note..

Krfawy
02:55:594 (3,4) - Weak jump here too. the note on 4 is really soft. it doesn't need such a jump + flowbreak.
02:58:867 (6,1) - This is huge... way too big for the map imo. It's literally cross screen lol.

Overall, some jumps on the diff just felt way too big compared to the rest of the diff + collab. Tone the ones I mentioned down, because when you compare them to the rest of the map, they really stand out too much.

Trudny Krfawego i Liutha

Krfawy
00:35:958 (2) - Maybe its a personal thing, but imo S sliders like this look kinda bad when they are diagonal. and the way you set it up with those control nodes doesn't relaly help xp.

Alternative you could try

Liuth
01:29:685 - Kinda unnecessary if you ask me lol.
01:56:685 (2,3) - Blanket can be improved.

Normalny

01:59:685 (3,4) - Inconsistent spacing here.

Banalny

Fine.

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Yea... my main concern is the difficulty spread. If that can be addressed, then I can help with this set.

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Krfawy 2017-03-19T02:41:16+00:00

Okay, I see. I am mapping Prosty difficulty right now. D:

Yes, I want to keep those >interestingly< delayed breaks in the diffs, they are nice as they are. \o3o/

Fixed the spacing in Normal, blanket in Hard. I didn't remove the wave in Hard diff, however I changed the form of it so it actually looks better! Fixed my parts in Insane. I am going to reply for the rest issues as soon as I am finished with mapping additional difficulty and letting my GDers know about the mod! o/

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-03-19T11:45:47+00:00

is Prosty between Banalny and Normalny? xD

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Krfawy 2017-03-20T01:56:50+00:00

Yes, it is. The diff names are in Polish as the song is Polish (if someone hasn't noticed yet) so the names could be translated as following:

Banalny → Beginner
Prosty → Easy
Normalny → Normal
Trudny → Hard
Bardzo Trudny → Insane

I could also use "Szalony" or "Wariacki" instead of "Bardzo Trudny", but I think the word "Bardzo" is harder to pronounce and it makes more sense when compared with a single "Trudny" as it makes more logical wording spread for foreigners... I believe. XD

Pappy

1,020 posts

Joined August 2013

Pappy 2017-03-31T21:35:41+00:00

kys monstrata

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Bass

1,846 posts

Joined January 2009

Bass 2017-04-01T22:51:17+00:00

ircmod

00:25 Bass: 01:05:685 (4) - idk ale ten overlap triggeruje troche XD mozna byloby odsunac lekko
00:30 Bass: 00:44:140 (2,3) - wczesniej tak ladnie szedl rytm a tu nagle tak jakby notki brakowali albo sldiera ;_;
00:30 Bass: tak pusto tu sie czuje
00:30 Bass: 00:45:231 (3) - przetestuj stawiajac notke tu
00:32 Krfawy: 02:21:231 - tutaj też wstawię XD
00:35 Bass: 00:45:231 (3) - skroc o jedno powtorzenie, przesun poprzedni slider (i go wydluz w razie czego)
00:35 Bass: lepiej do wokalu pasuje
00:36 Bass: 02:27:503 (4) - i tu wtedy tez trzeba skrocic w razie czego(niech Venix potem pamieta)
00:38 Bass: 01:01:049 (5) - postaw notke i zobacz jak wtedy brzmi, dla mnie nawet lepiej sie prezentuje XD (w tle slyszysz dwa klapy , jeden z nich bylby na tej piatce
00:45 Bass: 01:56:685 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7715334 nie wiem w sumie czy lepiej jak slider bedzie w ta strone bo jako poczatkujacy player niekomfortowo by mi sie ruszalo myszka przy tamtym patternie
00:46 Bass: rozumiem, ze tu mialo byc tak ladne rowne ulozenie
00:46 Bass: ale no XDS
00:48 Bass: 03:22:049 (1) - lepiej mi brzmi skrocony o 1/2

Venix

Global Moderator

1,927 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-04-01T22:53:31+00:00

ok

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WujekGrzyb

188 posts

Joined February 2010

WujekGrzyb 2017-04-03T21:00:02+00:00

Apel do C00kiezecky'ego xD
zmień te swoje 4 kółka tak, żeby pasowało, bo mój slider za nimi jest perfekcyjny xD

Dziękuję

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136,152,130049,2,0,P|145:108|140:63,1,90,8|2,0:3|0:0,0:0:0:0:
48,200,130594,1,8,1:3:0:0:
240,156,130867,1,2,0:0:0:0:

Bathory Witch

75 posts

Joined February 2014

Bathory Witch 2017-04-03T23:43:43+00:00

Prosty:
01:23:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Popraw dystanse między łańcuchami notek. Powinno być 0.8x a jest 1.0x.
01:27:503 (1) - NC,
00:51:503 (4) - Daj gwizdek na końcu.
02:29:140 (2,3,4) - Slajder + kółko + slajder, teraz jest do dupy. ;_;
02:40:049 (1) - Popraw dystans.

No i możesz usunąć niepotrzebny plik .osb który jest w folderze z grą bo wszystkie storyboardy są w plikach poziomów.

Venix

Global Moderator

1,927 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-04-06T14:31:45+00:00

Bathory Witch wrote:
Prosty:
02:29:140 (2,3,4) - Slajder + kółko + slajder, teraz jest do dupy. ;_; Nie za bardzo rozumiem o co ci chodzi xD
02:40:049 (1) - Popraw dystans. Jest dobry lul

No i możesz usunąć niepotrzebny plik .osb który jest w folderze z grą bo wszystkie storyboardy są w plikach poziomów.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-04-08T08:45:02+00:00

General

Delete the Tworzyli\Thumbs.db file if you can see it. If not, its whatever, it just randomly appears sometimes xP.

Normalny

02:20:685 (2) - This slider is offscreen.
03:03:231 (8,1) - Try and curve slider 1 to the right instead of the left so you can avoid that slider-border overlap with 8.

~

Prosty Wieloatorski

00:06:776 (3) - Since this is really near the beginning, do you think you can avoid touching the hp bar? I think you can maybe move the first few objects down a bit.

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Do you have metadata somewhere that I can check/confirm? Just link me if you got it, thanks! Call me back when the issues above have been addressed~!

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Topic Starter

Krfawy 2017-04-08T13:09:33+00:00

Firetruck me backwards, I can't find the Tworzyli\Thumbs.db file so I won't be able to delete it. ;_;

About the stuff in Normal and Easy - fixed. o3o/

About the metadata: As Sieg wanted me to see if the metadata was correct, I browsed the websites and found two sources that provided exactly the same title of the song and Sieg posted both sources in his post here: p/5679026 Just to save your time, I copied the title from the *ARTIST'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE* where we can find information about his album (which happen to have the title of the song) and I even marked the title in one screenshot: *CLICK*
The song with the official video can be found *HERE* on YouTube.
Please, keep in mind that sometimes official YT accounts skip specific Polish letters that use diacritics and in this case the word "jesteś" is simplified to the regular "jestes". That is a normal thing in Polish language, we know that some people (and companies) might happen to have no Polish keyboards, so even if there was no Romanised title and even if it wasn't added to the tags, it'd still be found if you tried to search and typed "jestes" because the system recognizes the letters even if no diacritics are used. Maybe it seems complicated but it's as easy as a piece of cake and we all (the Polish) do understand it naturally without even thinking about it as there's nothing to be explained for us, the easiest example might be texting - usually we just use simplified alphabet because it's convenient. I hope I explained everything in an approachable manner. \:3/

EDIT: Would you like a kudos for modding a new difficulty?

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-04-08T20:23:47+00:00

After looking at all the diff settings, I think AR could be bumped up a bit.

Banalny - AR 1? (You could use OD 1 and HP 1 too)

Prosty - AR 2.5 (This is a typical Easy with some 1/2 rhythms)

Normalny - AR 4 (This diff contains a lot of 1/2 rhythms now)

Trudny - AR 6 or 6.5. Current setting creates a lot of objects on the screen imo.

Bardzo - AR 7.5 or AR 8. You use kicksliders and full screen jumps. Current AR just clutters the map too much,

Metadata is confirmed~ And I guess the Thumbs.db file is just my computer this time haha.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2017-04-08T22:42:12+00:00

Alright, everything looks good. Krfawy will provide an English translation of the diff names in description. Bubbled~

Venix

Global Moderator

1,927 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-04-08T22:43:08+00:00

finallllllllllllllly

Ollapeu

192 posts

Joined November 2012

Ollapeu 2017-04-09T16:58:05+00:00

To się dzieje.

Kiciuk

108 posts

Joined October 2013

Kiciuk 2017-04-10T11:15:00+00:00

Pewniak.
Swietna mapa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 11/10

ReFaller

1,233 posts

Joined August 2014

ReFaller 2017-04-10T13:40:19+00:00

Kiciuś ♥

Shmiklak

Elite Storyboarder

3,218 posts

Joined January 2015

Shmiklak 2017-06-22T18:19:52+00:00

pls krfawy pls

Gero

4,438 posts

Joined March 2012

Gero 2017-06-23T08:13:14+00:00

Looks good to me. (Metadata)
I've got an explanation from Krfawy about the difficulty names used in this mapset, so it's all good. He added a translation on the description.