dsco wrote:

mir's light insane
00:02:981 (1,2) - feels random that you dont use 1.3x here, dont see why - ??? i don't get it this looks fine to me
00:26:475 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - could use at least some sort of hitsounding, feels very bare - nao's fault probably, but added more stuff

toybot wrote:

[Mir's Light Insane]

1. 00:02:981 (1,2) - these 2 feel too close together relative to the rest of the spacing - okay now i get it, changed
2. 00:13:282 (2,3) - maybe try ctrl+g these two? the change in rotation and giving more emphasis to 00:13:644 (4) - feels a lot nicer imo - i think it's fine imo since the sound is going down so spacing decreases too
3. 00:18:162 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - this triangle pattern could be polished a lot, considering you use perfect shapes a lot - tried
4. 00:24:126 (4) - could ctrl+g to make the pattern not feel so linear - intended to be linear

orange_ wrote:

[Mir's Light Insane]

1. 00:06:957 (5,6) - I think 5 should be getting the emphasis here, not 6 - i don't think so, but fixed another emphasis issue
2. 00:30:089 (5,1) - 00:32:981 (5,1) - Emphasize these the same, currently only the first part has the emphasis on 1 - ok
3. 00:07:861 (4) - 00:09:487 (5) - Make these two's angles the same, looks weird because there such similar sliders - ok

Noffy wrote:

[Mir's Light Insane]

1. 00:23:945 (3,4,1) - How about you do this like 00:35:511 (3,4,1) - ? I felt the latter better fit the brief pause in guitar that happened at both time.
2. 00:38:403 (2,3,1,2,3) - While they're all meant to form a straight line wait nevermind it's not even perfectly horizontal, it's rather uncomfortable how close this pattern is to the top of the screen and the health bar. maybe?

Applied both. But I don't care about how high/close to the HP bar it is.

dsco wrote:

norma check
00:08:764 (1,2,3,4,1) - dont like the half overlaps visually, the rest of the objects in the map are very carefully separated. stacks or wider separation would look much better i think. it is done twice with those 2 instruments to distinguish them from the other jump patterns
00:15:632 (2,1) - ^ especially here, you stack these in similar situations. i feel like it clouds the maps otherwise very clean aesthetic
drum whistle is very ignored after intro, i think it would fit well here: 00:17:439 (1) - 00:19:969 (5) - (tail) and so on... feels like it was forgotten
intentional cuz only the intro follow the piano...
rest is pretty standard / simple, not much to say

toybot wrote:

m4m

[Norma Check]

1. i don't really like how the patterns shift from geometric to basically freehand jumps.. it's not inherently bad, but it gives off this illusion of "huh this map seems to use a lot of neat and orderly patterning" for a few seconds. idk if that's what you were going for geometric patterns for the piano part.
2. 00:05:873 - maybe continue with the drum whistle patterning, so the hitsounds dont feel so empty ok i'll do stuff i guess
3. 00:05:330 (3) - prob should stack on 00:03:704 (3) - to help continue building on the hexagon pattern
4. 00:20:692 (6) - makes more sense to NC here due to it being a start of a new melodic line. you do this at 00:29:367 (1) - , it would be nice to stick to it
5. 00:23:583 (6) - ^

That's all I found, GL!

_orange wrote:

M4M from your queue

[General]

1. Widescreen support could be disabled on all diffs, there's no storyboard waste of time. if there's no SB why are you even pointing this out?

[Norma Check]

1. 00:06:596 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Not a fan of the repetitive movement and following the star/pentagon pattern 1.5x. I would make this 00:06:596 (1,2,3,4) - and this 00:07:318 (5,6,7,1) - into visually separate patterns they're all the same instrument though. why make them different patterns?
2. 00:34:427 (5) - Of the few sliders you have in this diff, this one is different because all of the other 1/1 sliders are not at an angle and this one is like 17 degrees
3. 00:16:716 (4) - I get that this is supposed to be emphasized the most, because of the high note and the trumpet coming in, but it's kinda overkill. Maybe move it slightly closer because it's really big compared to everything else. It fits here 00:10:391 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - much better by making the jumps around it slightly less and this 00:10:933 (4) - high note doesn't have 4x spacing.

gl man

Noffy wrote:

Do you ever sit down and wonder why OJ100% doesn't have a really OP character that's literally a cup of orange juice.
Missed opportunity, I think.

m4m yeh

[General]

1. It's a bit confusing that really light insane is rated easier than the hard..
2. Praise be all the diffs have cc now
3. Hitsound Suggestion: How come there aren't whistles used on the high notes at 00:26:475 - to 00:28:644 - and 00:38:041 - to 00:38:764 - ? I think it would fit really well to add them, and it sounds almost like you forgot to hitsound these when the whistles were used on the high notes throughout.
   Especially when even the parts at 00:10:391 and 00:16:174 had whissssttleees ok

[Norma Check]

1. I can't bring myself to say much for this difficulty as my heart as a soft-spot for primarily circle maps like this, and a lot of it just.. feels right. mm.
2. 00:10:571 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - Except this. it felt unnatural and like you were trying to force the triangular shape compared to a lot of patterns that weren't too apparently focused on looking like something specific
3. 00:39:306 (1,2,3) - I do think however it would be worth your while to increase the spacing here, since 2 and 3 are such strong sounds. doesn't fit with theme of making similar 1/1 and 1/2 spacing.

I'm finally done revising it to try to make sure it didn't overlap with the other 5 mods that appeared while I was in class, but if there still are any points where it does then just orz

it's kind of funny the titular chicken isn't even in the bg true. added.

edit:
look at the url


nice

Noffy wrote:

[Fiery's Insane]

1. 00:16:716 (3,4,5,6) - This felt rather odd to play to, as the instrument I think ... ? it's mapping is really realllllly quiet. it's noticeable enough, it's a bg instrument but its definitely hearable
2. 00:22:861 (4,1) - It seems wrong to place so much emphasis here when (1) isn't really that impactful of a note in the song.
3. 00:37:499 (6,1) - Same as the above. the general thing i'm trying to do with stuff like this is place emphasis on the downbeat and the fact that there's a new pattern, since it's an insane diff i feel like start of new patterns should have this sort of emphasis on them. the first one you pointed out also isn't really that spaced when you actually play it so ya no change there
4. 00:09:307 (4,1) - I would remove the nc here... it's not present at 00:15:090 (4,5) - either. added nc to other pattern since the other one is for readability purposes

dsco wrote:

fiery's insane
00:14:909 (3,5) - offset slider to match the outward spacing you use in map would be a lot more consistent i think (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7878521 if unclear what i mean) wen u fuck around with ur aesthetics
00:36:053 (1,2) - ^ keeping this one though cuz else it kinda looks ugly
00:39:306 (1,2,3) - finish on one of these? hitsounding is up to nao for the most part i just added whistles xd

toybot wrote:

[Fiery's Insane]

1. 00:18:523 (4) - 00:21:415 (4) - personal but i rather dislike it when the map ignores important beats in such a simple rhythm. the offbeat is what helps make the song catchy and ignoring it just leaves a pretty bad taste imo ye fair enough i was kinda on the edge about these repeats anyway, made them separate notes
2. 00:37:499 (6,1) - 1 doesn't need such a strong spacing emphasis in comparison with 5 moving to 6, its not part of the melody see response to first mod

_orange wrote:

[Fiery's Insane]

1. The AR could definitely be upped to match the other Insanes imo its fine where its at rn
   
2. 00:23:583 (2) - Maybe make this in the same 5 degree angle as your other sliders? Like this 00:22:499 (3,4) - is right before it eh it's a minor change and i don't think it's really warranted considering i did sliders like this before into red anchored ones
3. 00:26:114 (1) - Yeah this doesn't need the small jump emphasis, there's no melodic note on it see responses to stuff above like this
4. 00:32:620 (3,4,5) - Hmm, idk this doesn't really fit with the rest of your jumps, you don't usually go completely back and forth in a straight line. I suggest you just make this into a triangle and put the tail of this 00:33:162 (1) - or something like that difference in patterning tho else its stale
5. 00:39:849 (3) - Just slightly touches the HP bar on 4:3 xd eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

dsco wrote:

shu's hard
overall the rhythm in this difficult is overly convoluted and inconsistent. same goes for the 1/1 spacing
00:07:861 (3,4) - don't like this being spaced, map is set up to have 1/1 overlaps from the intro both white tick to white tick and red to red, especially since its the same exact sound (also see: 00:13:644 (3,4) - ) This spacing are used to giving a bit of emhpasis to the sound that appears at here,
it plays fine currently
00:10:029 (5,1) - ^ consider changing, though this one is probably fine since different sound yeah
00:19:608 (3,4,1) - 00:30:993 (1,2) - - why are these two rhythms so vastly different? same exact sounds. very inconsistent [00:22:318 (1,2,3,1) - vs 00:33:885 (1,2) - ] [00:24:126 (4,5) - vs 00:36:053 (4) - ] yes, I just giving some customization at here. Its inconsistent have their own consistency
00:18:704 (5,1,2) - 00:21:596 (6,1) - randomly inconsistent rhythm (see also: 00:30:270 (5,1,2) - and 00:33:162 (6,1,2) - ) it have pretty different sounds you know
00:23:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:34:788 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:18:162 (2,3,4,5,1) - 00:29:728 (2,3,4,5) - ^

toybot wrote:

[Shu's Hard]

1. 00:31:897 (1,2) - when you use 1/1 sliders consistently throughout the map, this feels a bit offputting in comparison

would be a good idea yeh, if I put 1/1 slider on it but , I want to click something on 00:32:620 - and 00:32:258 -

_orange wrote:

[Shu's Hard]

1. 00:11:294 (6,7) - I would definitely make 6 into a 1/2 slider instead because it's mapped as if there's a strong sound on 7 good idea,
   but still i want to click something on 00:11:475 -
2. 00:24:126 (4) - Your usual angle for sliders is 0 degrees but this one is tilted slightly, it would be better to stick with the 0 degrees since you do that the most fair point
3. 00:33:162 (6) - ^ Same here yes
4. 00:38:041 (1,3) - It doesn't fit to stack these because, firstly, it implies a 1/1 gap between these 3 and 1, and it doesn't match the raising pitch of the three notes right

Noffy wrote:

[Shu's Hard]

1. Was it truly necessary to set the stack leniency to 2?
2. 00:22:499 (2,3) - Why is the spacing here greater than at 00:19:608 (3,4) - ? I think having it smaller was more fitting to how the sounds continue directly into each other. yeah, my bad
3. 00:33:162 (6) - This slider felt really out of place when the entire section was just straight after straight after straight slider. Consider integrating other similar slightly angled sliders in the time from 00:21:596 to 00:39:849 or straightening this one out.right

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Naotoshi wrote:

toybot wrote:

[Norma Check]
i don't really like how the patterns shift from geometric to basically freehand jumps.. it's not inherently bad, but it gives off this illusion of "huh this map seems to use a lot of neat and orderly patterning" for a few seconds. idk if that's what you were going for geometric patterns for the piano part.

Yahuri wrote:

from meme
im allergic to oranges
chickens are cute tho

toybot wrote:

[Norma Check]
i don't really like how the patterns shift from geometric to basically freehand jumps.. it's not inherently bad, but it gives off this illusion of "huh this map seems to use a lot of neat and orderly patterning" for a few seconds. idk if that's what you were going for geometric patterns for the piano part.

i agree with toybot, the pattern shifts are weird. you say "geometric patterns for the piano part" but like there's still geometric stuff even after that such as here 00:18:162 (1,2,3,1) parallelogram, 00:21:053 (2,3,4,1,2) this looks very very close to a star (but not??), 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - trapezoid
pls reconsider, without geometric stuff many patterns look broken

note: modded before i read that ^

Norma Check
00:06:596 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - could just make a regular star instead, this might be good for emphasis but it still looks weird
00:10:391 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - make these pairs slant at the same angle? https://puu.sh/vsn1Z/9ca3207ec2.jpeg

Golden Egg Insane
00:01:173 (4,1,2,3,4,5) - possible hexgrid pattern here https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7890680
00:04:064 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ^
00:07:680 (9) - this circle has a really weak visual connection to the rest of the pattern. you could make it equidistant from 00:06:776 (4) and 00:07:318 (7) to help it fit in better
00:09:126 (6,1,2) - minor triangle polishing, move 2 up/right
00:08:945 (5,7,3) - ^ move 3
00:10:391 (1,3,4,6) - make these all the same distances from each other (3-1, 1-6, 6-4) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7890718
00:12:921 (6,7,8,9) - make these pairs at the same angle https://puu.sh/vsnyz/321328220e.jpeg
00:16:355 (2,1) - stack??
00:39:306 (1,2,3) - you can try adjusting previous patterns so that this can be a straight line without 3 being stuck at the bottom of the screen lol

good luck

TheMefisto wrote:

[General]

[My Angel Mir's Normal]

1. 00:39:306 (1,2) - Why didn't you use 1.2x DS here? It's still normal, so spacing should be consistent Probably messed up something, was 1.2 originally
2. I also found this in intro, but I guess you sacrificed DS to stack the sliders and won't change this Yeh, won't change, should be okay to read anyway

_orange wrote:

[My Angel Mir's Normal]

1. 00:07:318 (5,1) - Fix stack y
2. 00:16:174 (1,2) - Put larger spacing between these to emphasize it like you did here 00:10:571 (2,3) - Nah, it plays differently there since the clickable parts are pretty close anyway so I don't want any extra spacing here
3. 00:27:559 (4) - It would play better if you stacked 4 on 5. Also this stack 00:26:836 (2,4) - is used for 1/1 gaps in the whole map except for this 2/1 gap, which doesn't fit well Idk why'd you want to stack it tbh, also I think that is fine since they aren't 2 notes right after anyway and this part is all 1/1 unlike most parts that are 1/2 heavy so it fits fine imo and that should not be a problem to read either

Noffy wrote:

[My Angel Mir's Normal]

1. 00:00:090 (1,2,3) - The position of 1's tail is visibly off from 2's and 3's >: ye fixed, for some reason osu hates slider end stacking...
2. 00:10:571 (2,3) - While you were having slight spacing variations for your patterns up until now, having a jump in an otherwise distance snapped normal like this is.. really weird. The slider leniency helps make it less noticable, but not much... Hmm I guess I could change it
3. 00:11:294 (4) - Consider removing the reverse here, unlike the other reverse sliders it doesn't end on a really clear sound so it seems a bit out of place.
   I guess I could... It leaves a bit weird gap between it and the next object tho so idk... Removed for now might change something else too later
4. 00:23:945 (2,3) - Why is this manually stacked when 00:23:583 (1,2) - was autostacked, what. well it doesn't make a difference i'm just curious Uhh just because of the way osu handles stacking, I could've had the same result with autostacking if I just moved 1 and 2 a bit and then autostacked 3... But tbh it doesn't make a difference
5. 00:39:306 (1,2,3) - The drop in spacing between 1 and 2 could be potentially confusing, since all 3 notes are spaced and aren't part of a larger more obvious pattern, and this rhythm doesn't happen elsewhere for the player to get used to it first. This could be misread as 00:39:306 (1,2) - being closer in time than the parallel 00:38:403 (2,3) - when they're not. Yeh fixed already, something went wrong there was supposed to be ds xd

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1. 00:02:981 (1,2,3,4) - these should not be different from 00:00:090 (1,2,3,4) - , you should psuedo stack the 2/1 gaps like you did
2. 00:04:427 (1,2) - why is this stack, be like 00:01:535 (1,2) -
3. 00:04:788 (2,3) - why jump, before it was stack.
4. 00:05:330 (4,5) - why suddenly change spacing, its same rhythm
5. 00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) - why increasing spacing gradually, doesn't make sense when 00:06:776 (3,4,5) - is increaseing spacing with pitch
6. 00:07:861 (4,5) - this looks like 1/2 gap because of all the big jumps before.
7. 00:08:222 (5,6) - why did you stack this when it was just a cross screen jump, its same rhythm
8. 00:06:596 - why is this only part mapped to slider end
9. 00:08:764 (1,2,3,4) - why square pattern when before its star, its same music.
10. 00:09:668 - now you have first time when slider end is not to sound, this not fit.
11. 00:09:849 (2,3,1) - this should not be same distance.
12. 00:10:752 - see you go back to slider end sound, but why ? is this not supposed to be jump?
13. 00:10:933 (3,4,5,6) - why are these stack, where is jumps like before?
14. 00:11:656 (1) - should skip this note, its filler rhythm, and not fit to everything you map before this
15. 00:12:017 (2) - isn't end strong? why also how to tell when slider end should be mapped to sound or not,
16. 00:13:102 (1,2,3,4) - like said before, this should decrease spacing
17. 00:13:644 (4,5,6) - why such MASSIVE change for such small change in music
18. 00:15:270 (1) - before this was a 1/2 slider why now 1/1 and with sound to end?
19. 00:15:812 (2,1) - why is this visual spacing same as 1/2 you just did
20. 00:16:897 (4,5,6) - this is filler rhythm not fitting when you don't do filler rhythm before (at any 1/1 gap u make)
21. 00:18:885 (5) - 00:21:776 (5) - if you do filler rhythm here why not even NC this, its downbeat.
22. 00:19:788 - back to back you make slider end sound and slider end not sound. (00:19:427 - )
23. 00:20:330 (1) - filler rhythm again, you not mapping to this sound, you mapping to bells though, not piano
24. 00:22:499 (3,4) - again you do slider end no sound here, but before (00:20:692 (2,4) - ) you do slider end with sound
25. 00:23:222 (1,2) - you set up visual spacing for a 1/2 gap like this, but its 1/1
26. 00:23:222 (1) - also now you nc filler rhythm and before you not do.
27. 00:23:583 (2) - back to slider end no sound and then 00:24:126 (4) - slider end to sounds, pick one.
28. 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - where is the jumps like before, with the stacks for 1/1 gaps?
29. 00:26:114 (1,2,3,4) - at least make spacing go up with pitch
30. 00:25:933 (4,1,2) - these are pretty similar gap in time and distance.
31. 00:29:005 - this point is another filler rhythm, though onto slider end,
32. 00:29:367 (1,2) - like this you have 1/1 gap stack and not jump, then 1/2 jumps not stack, which is different from 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - why
33. 00:30:993 (2,3) - where is the jump here, you just jump for these sounds now a stack
34. 00:31:897 (1) - again filler rhythm but not on any other point not downbeat.
35. 00:34:065 (3,4) - again to slider end no sounds right after slider end with sounds, how distinguish?
36. 00:34:788 (1) - this has 1/2 gap and 1/1 gap same visual spacing.
37. 00:35:511 (3,4) - why no jumps like before 00:32:620 (3,4,5) -
38. 00:35:150 (2) - 00:36:053 (1,2,4) - then at end they are to no sound.
39. 00:36:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why back to jump after stacks?

borborygmos wrote:

i have few issue with fiery diff

[heaidng]firey' siane [/hading]

1. 00:02:981 (1,2,3,4) - these should not be different from 00:00:090 (1,2,3,4) - , you should psuedo stack the 2/1 gaps like you did ok
2. 00:04:427 (1,2) - why is this stack, be like 00:01:535 (1,2) - made this the same rhythm
3. 00:04:788 (2,3) - why jump, before it was stack. fixed above
4. 00:05:330 (4,5) - why suddenly change spacing, its same rhythm fixed above
5. 00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) - why increasing spacing gradually, doesn't make sense when 00:06:776 (3,4,5) - is increaseing spacing with pitch to keep the pattern flow going mainly, most i'd change is 00:07:680 (3,4) - this jump here since i feel like everything else represents it fine
6. 00:07:861 (4,5) - this looks like 1/2 gap because of all the big jumps before. should be readable at this ar tbh, testplays didn't break here ever
7. 00:08:222 (5,6) - why did you stack this when it was just a cross screen jump, its same rhythm these are stacked since it's less emphasized than the continuous 1/2 notes
8. 00:06:596 - why is this only part mapped to slider end fixed this which apparently increased difficulty somehow
9. 00:08:764 (1,2,3,4) - why square pattern when before its star, its same music. if i used star patterns throughout the entire map it'd be boring as hell lol
10. 00:09:668 - now you have first time when slider end is not to sound, this not fit. fixed above
11. 00:09:849 (2,3,1) - this should not be same distance.
12. 00:10:752 - see you go back to slider end sound, but why ? is this not supposed to be jump? this is less intense than the notes before it
13. 00:10:933 (3,4,5,6) - why are these stack, where is jumps like before? same as above, it's less intense, no reason for jumps
14. 00:11:656 (1) - should skip this note, its filler rhythm, and not fit to everything you map before this but 00:05:873 (1) - and like everywhere else in the map i do this stuff lol
15. 00:12:017 (2) - isn't end strong? why also how to tell when slider end should be mapped to sound or not, fixed
16. 00:13:102 (1,2,3,4) - like said before, this should decrease spacing revamped pattern but i don't feel like it should decrease in spacing,
    it reaches a climax at the end
17. 00:13:644 (4,5,6) - why such MASSIVE change for such small change in music fixed indirectly
18. 00:15:270 (1) - before this was a 1/2 slider why now 1/1 and with sound to end? rhythm differentiation
19. 00:15:812 (2,1) - why is this visual spacing same as 1/2 you just did fixed
20. 00:16:897 (4,5,6) - this is filler rhythm not fitting when you don't do filler rhythm before (at any 1/1 gap u make) but it's not? there's very noticeable synth here lol
21. 00:18:885 (5) - 00:21:776 (5) - if you do filler rhythm here why not even NC this, its downbeat. that's not where the new rhythm starts
22. 00:19:788 - back to back you make slider end sound and slider end not sound. (00:19:427 - ) i don't really quite understand what the problem with having this is
23. 00:20:330 (1) - filler rhythm again, you not mapping to this sound, you mapping to bells though, not piano see above
24. 00:22:499 (3,4) - again you do slider end no sound here, but before (00:20:692 (2,4) - ) you do slider end with sound see above
25. 00:23:222 (1,2) - you set up visual spacing for a 1/2 gap like this, but its 1/1 below nc should help clarify spacing a bit
26. 00:23:222 (1) - also now you nc filler rhythm and before you not do. right, fixed
27. 00:23:583 (2) - back to slider end no sound and then 00:24:126 (4) - slider end to sounds, pick one.
28. 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - where is the jumps like before, with the stacks for 1/1 gaps? ok, made jump
29. 00:26:114 (1,2,3,4) - at least make spacing go up with pitch o woops
30. 00:25:933 (4,1,2) - these are pretty similar gap in time and distance. not really sure how to fix this without screwing over the entire pattern
31. 00:29:005 - this point is another filler rhythm, though onto slider end, rhythm differentiation
32. 00:29:367 (1,2) - like this you have 1/1 gap stack and not jump, then 1/2 jumps not stack, which is different from 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - why
33. 00:30:993 (2,3) - where is the jump here, you just jump for these sounds now a stack cuz i did it with rhythms like 00:18:885 (5,1) - this before
34. 00:31:897 (1) - again filler rhythm but not on any other point not downbeat.
35. 00:34:065 (3,4) - again to slider end no sounds right after slider end with sounds, how distinguish?
36. 00:34:788 (1) - this has 1/2 gap and 1/1 gap same visual spacing.
37. 00:35:511 (3,4) - why no jumps like before 00:32:620 (3,4,5) -
38. 00:35:150 (2) - 00:36:053 (1,2,4) - then at end they are to no sound.
39. 00:36:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why back to jump after stacks? less intense

fieryrage wrote:

borborygmos wrote:

i have few issue with fiery diff

[heaidng]firey' siane [/hading]

1. 00:11:656 (1) - should skip this note, its filler rhythm, and not fit to everything you map before this but 00:05:873 (1) - and like everywhere else in the map i do this stuff lol
2. 00:15:270 (1) - before this was a 1/2 slider why now 1/1 and with sound to end? rhythm differentiation
3. 00:16:897 (4,5,6) - this is filler rhythm not fitting when you don't do filler rhythm before (at any 1/1 gap u make) but it's not? there's very noticeable synth here lol
4. 00:18:885 (5) - 00:21:776 (5) - if you do filler rhythm here why not even NC this, its downbeat. that's not where the new rhythm starts
5. 00:19:788 - back to back you make slider end sound and slider end not sound. (00:19:427 - ) i don't really quite understand what the problem with having this is
6. 00:20:330 (1) - filler rhythm again, you not mapping to this sound, you mapping to bells though, not piano see above
7. 00:22:499 (3,4) - again you do slider end no sound here, but before (00:20:692 (2,4) - ) you do slider end with sound see above
8. 00:23:222 (1,2) - you set up visual spacing for a 1/2 gap like this, but its 1/1 below nc should help clarify spacing a bit
9. 00:23:583 (2) - back to slider end no sound and then 00:24:126 (4) - slider end to sounds, pick one.
10. 00:25:933 (4,1,2) - these are pretty similar gap in time and distance. not really sure how to fix this without screwing over the entire pattern
11. 00:29:005 - this point is another filler rhythm, though onto slider end, rhythm differentiation
12. 00:29:367 (1,2) - like this you have 1/1 gap stack and not jump, then 1/2 jumps not stack, which is different from 00:25:210 (1,2,3,4) - why
13. 00:30:993 (2,3) - where is the jump here, you just jump for these sounds now a stack cuz i did it with rhythms like 00:18:885 (5,1) - this before
14. 00:31:897 (1) - again filler rhythm but not on any other point not downbeat.
15. 00:34:065 (3,4) - again to slider end no sounds right after slider end with sounds, how distinguish?
16. 00:34:788 (1) - this has 1/2 gap and 1/1 gap same visual spacing.
17. 00:35:511 (3,4) - why no jumps like before 00:32:620 (3,4,5) -
18. 00:35:150 (2) - 00:36:053 (1,2,4) - then at end they are to no sound.
19. 00:36:053 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - why back to jump after stacks? less intense

i kinda stopped replying since it started to be me just repeating myself over and over again, ty for mod but i'm not entirely sure what some of your points mean, if you could explain those that'd be nice

you say you do the filler rhythm everywhere else in the map, which is false. Here are spots you did not use filler rhythm 00:08:041 - 00:10:210 - 00:13:824 - 00:15:993 - 00:22:138 - 00:24:306 - 00:24:668 - 00:25:029 - 00:30:451 - 00:30:812 - 00:33:343 - 00:33:704 - 00:35:873 - I already linked the points in which you did do filler rhythm in the mod above (idk if I filtered all of them correctly d) point is, you have points with filler rhythm and points without it. The points without the filler rhythm are arguably better since this song has a consistent filler white tick sound, if you don't have these fillers it much better highlights the points in which the song varies. This is why "consistency" is important in regards to choosing to map filler rhythm or not, and how you chose to do this, in order to represent the song for what it provides.

slider ends and not slider ends: you don't click slider ends, you lift on them (unless you train yourself to be a nut-sack to disprove my point). because you lift on slider ends, they have a type of value you may chose to recognize or not. Some people decide they don't want to recognize this value by having slider ends snapped to familiar snaps instead of to "strong" beats. Other people snap slider ends to strong beats because they want to give the value of lifting a chance to represent the song. In terms of consistency, picking on of these is essential because it roots to what you believe to represent sounds in terms of player interaction. Having these mixed together says "slider ends are on strong sounds" in which case you disprove yourself in this case by putting slider ends to no sound in the music, Or saying "slider ends do not require any support" devalues the slider ends as weak, though then any sound you snap a slider end to is expected to be a noticeable weaker sound. In this map you put strong sounds on some slider ends and then immediately put slider ends to friendly snaps without the sound in the music to support it. This causes inconsistencies in which sounds you have noticed to be strong by giving click-ability are now much weaker because you assign them to slider ends which you have define as unimportant. Or slider ends are worth something in which the song cannot provide support for, which can be confusing for players because they will be receiving feedback from the objects without support from the music.

spacing change recommendations I have made, I notice sometimes you use spacing to represent something, which is a cool idea, I would just like to see it if you used that idea more.

this is a 40 second "song" you don't need to has so much variation to prevent loss of interest because the song is so short.

Metronome wrote:

Woah There! Too Many Difficulties, Does Not Follow New Ranking Criteria!

borborygmos wrote:

Metronome wrote:

Woah There! Too Many Difficulties, Does Not Follow New Ranking Criteria!

remove my diff for fix, ~~ sorry guys

Monstrata wrote:

Norma Check

bok bok's Really Light Insane

00:11:656 (1) -The way you overlapped the slider really messes up your design imo... i'd just go with a simple blanket and stacking the slider-end

~

Do something like this maybe

not really a fan of the aesthetic design a blanket poses especially when I handle colliding curves like 00:10:391 (1,2,3) - and 00:10:933 (1,2,3,4) -. The more curved slider would also not go well with 00:12:379 (2) - 's design since most of the map is slight curves and slightly curved movement.

Monstrata wrote:

fiery's Insane

00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) - Your concept of jumps increases way too quickly here. Look at how small ur spacing is just the pattern before: 00:05:873 (1,2,3,4) - . You're making the jumps way too big without there being a noticeable shift in the music that would support this. nerfed
00:08:764 (1,2,3) - ^ this one I don't feel as terribly important considering it's sliders, there's a lot more emphasis on 00:09:487 (3) - as well hence the increased spacing here
00:15:993 - Basically everything up to here is way over spaced compared to the rest of the map. nerfed similar pattern to 00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) -
as well
00:32:800 (4,5) - The only time you use a jump like this in the section. So don't do this cuz it messes up your spacing concept. Use normal spacing like 3>4 adjusted, should be fine now I think

Monstrata wrote:

My Angel Mir's Normal

00:35:511 (2,3) - Don't do sliderend / sliderhead stacks on Normal pls. it's just confusing to read rhythms like this and really baits normal players to clicking early expecting it to be a 1/2 beat. Alright, changed these

Hmm... I think if this were in another set, i'd have issues with its reading difficulty since you reuse circle locations in very short timeframes. But this set is entirely a rhythm and reading challenge so it fits the set's parameters pretty well. Don't do stuff like 00:12:740 (3,4,5,1) - on normal maps though, use more of the screen and use more variable locations so players don't have to pay so much attention to locations. Not exactly what I'd do usually anyway but I'll keep this in mind.

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UndeadCapulet wrote:

nao renamed my diff to an easy diff, since it was originally intended to be an easy diff anyway until the set got hella big and "light normal" made sense for spread at the time

so in regards to the undermapping, i think it's fitting for an easy diff to have linking all those 1/2 beats together in one long slider, makes for a nice traveling effect w/ the song there
that's also why i skip the downbeat, to me it feels still linked with the surrounding beats (and its not like i really ever care about the downbeat except for the intro where nothing else is happening in the song)

fieryrage wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

fiery's Insane

00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) - Your concept of jumps increases way too quickly here. Look at how small ur spacing is just the pattern before: 00:05:873 (1,2,3,4) - . You're making the jumps way too big without there being a noticeable shift in the music that would support this. nerfed
00:08:764 (1,2,3) - ^ this one I don't feel as terribly important considering it's sliders, there's a lot more emphasis on 00:09:487 (3) - as well hence the increased spacing here
00:15:993 - Basically everything up to here is way over spaced compared to the rest of the map. nerfed similar pattern to 00:07:318 (1,2,3,4) -
as well
00:32:800 (4,5) - The only time you use a jump like this in the section. So don't do this cuz it messes up your spacing concept. Use normal spacing like 3>4 adjusted, should be fine now I think

also added hitsounds cuz nao is bad, willing to nerf other parts of that section if needed but i feel like they're fine for now
http://puu.sh/wr1Vr/ffd083c8fd.osu

Monstrata wrote:

@bor you dont have to be a fan of my solution. thats just a possible idea of many. the issue I brought up is what you should be replying to lol

Monstrata wrote:

00:08:583 (5,1,2,3) - 5>1 is still really big too. Also even tho they are "just sliders" you arrange them in a way where theres no way to abuse slider leniency to get an easier jump angle anyways. nor is there any way to abuse slider leniency since the direction of the slider is also the direction you have to travel, so you can't cut corners, it's why I think these jumps also need to be reduced.

Monstrata wrote:

bok bok's Really Light Insane

I hope you're also not keeping this diff name... Also call this a Hard. or give me a good reason why Hard wouldn't reflect the techniques used in this map and reflect the spread better.