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Kanari
sb ~ https://puu.sh/vnp1i.zip
the parts where the notes are highlighted may look off while in the editor but they're fine when you actually play the map

the bg was one pixel off so i included a new one for you xD
Topic Starter
toybot

Wanko wrote:

Not the biggest fan of Camellia but let's try it :P

SPOILER
Blossom:
00:22:020 - could make a sharp turn here, like you did for this kind of sound before. // id rather keep shape
00:42:332 (3,2) - overlap, not sure if intentional or not // changed
01:04:520 (3) - This sound is kinda stronger than (2) so I'd make it a jump instead, like this maybe http://screenshot.sh/mMijS1JzAN9cD // just unstacked instead
01:11:395 (1) - Could place it like this instead http://screenshot.sh/mK7Be1xLLSImv // eh i like how its placed right now, overlaps are my thing
01:17:645 (1,2,3,4) - really threw me off when playing, I think placing a note at 01:17:723 makes a bit more sense, even if it's not following drums 100%. // think its fine, contrast here is nice
01:34:754 (2) and 01:35:379 (3) - Kinda overmapped imo, would map 01:35:691 and 01:35:848 and make 01:35:926 (2,3) into a slider instead // tbh the entire chorus is over a continuous 1/4 track
01:39:363 (3) - 2 nearly stacked singletaps would work better imo // idk what u mean
01:44:363 (3) - ^ // ^
01:56:082 (4) - Could end it at 01:56:316 and place another slider at 01:56:395 - 01:56:551 // want to keep
02:18:895 (1) - Hmm, move it to x:76 y:44? Think that's more in the middle // changed
02:36:395 (1,2,3) - I don't think this fits too well, http://screenshot.sh/mMiLQRyFTxGS1 maybe? // your suggestion seems a bit unnatural in rhythm imo
02:42:332 (2,3) - could make a triple here // did a triple right before instead
02:46:082 (4) - a bit weird to have that strong sound on a sliderend, when you map it as jump just half a sec later :) 02:46:707 (3) - http://screenshot.sh/mFcQOZPLXnfjl // im prioritizing melody here
03:09:676 (4,1) - stack them completely // changed
04:25:770 (1) - really throws me off. I know there's a sharp turn on that slider but I'd make it shorter anyway // made it more intuitive
04:30:066 (3,1) - weird spacing? I'd assume it should be the same as 04:32:566 (3,1) // changed
04:51:629 (2,3) - move to x:273 y:368 to avoid overlap // intentional overlap
05:12:488 (2,3,1) - If my ears don't play tricks on me, this part is 1/3 http://screenshot.sh/odR4vzeTxB6BR // its 1/4 lol

Well, that's all... Hope you found it helpful :)
thanks for the mod!

Kanari wrote:

sb ~ https://puu.sh/vnp1i.zip
the parts where the notes are highlighted may look off while in the editor but they're fine when you actually play the map

the bg was one pixel off so i included a new one for you xD
i love you
Battle
[General]
Think transparency can be cut down a bit for fog circle dot and highlight pngs
OD is kinda low considering AR but w/e
metadata in description doesn't have feat. nanahira in picture, do you have a source that says feat nanahira?
aaaand can you get someone Japanese to confirm lyrics lol

[Diff]
01:05:613 (2) - this curve looks pretty gross imo
01:17:020 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe make this slightly less touching, imo it would help since you already introduced pretty close circles so it would help people recognize this is 1/2 instead of 1/4
01:46:395 (1,2,3,4) - idk, this feels pretty overdone, the music isn't really doing a whole lot special here but the way this pattern plays it put a lot of emphasis on nothing
02:03:270 (1,2,3) - I'm just gonna point this out once cuz there'll probably be more but I'm just tryna make sure this is a stylistic choice and not an error lol
02:55:926 (1,2,3) - Kinda like the other one, this kinda feels like there's a lot of stress to the music when there isn't too much there, I'm more surprised by this cuz the vocals were pretty intense then the part afterward is more intense than the vocals z
04:27:801 (2,3,4) - mmm 4 gets the same kind of emphasis even though 2,3 have significant beats and that bugs me
04:46:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - This pattern is kinda going against your hitsounding since it's kinda just going along by itself while the more important beats are kinda just ignored, more notably 3 which gets really low spacing despite being a kick

probs be back, maybe when I feel less tired lol

cute bg btw
Lama Poluna

Battle wrote:

[General]
metadata in description doesn't have feat. nanahira in picture, do you have a source that says feat nanahira?
ok, we have this map. Artist is Nanahira, but in offical site written this:

On this map should be the same artist : ななひら (Nanahira), and tags: Camellia かめりあ
Nao Tomori
hi

[petals]
00:15:770 (1,2) - meh doing this sort of thing kinda messes up the constant cursor motion cuz you gotta stop on the slider end and wait for the next circle. imo spacing them would maintain the motion instead
00:48:895 (2,2) - stack these?
01:22:020 (1,2) - having these both as 1/2 sliders feels weird to me cuz 01:22:332 (2,1) - are clearly paired together and 01:22:020 (1) - is not
01:32:645 (1,2) - this makes kind weird finger polarity or w/e can you make it 2 circles?
01:34:988 (4) - overmapped fullscreen jump ok_hand
01:35:301 (2,3,4) - this is the only time you do this kinda thing, maybe hard to read? all other times the circles don't overlap the slider
01:34:988 (4,2,3) - considering these, wouldn't it make sense to place a kickslider at 01:38:582 (1) - instead?
overall i don't really like how you switch between circle and sliders for the kicks in this section, seems as though the clicking rhythm is kinda disconnected from the hitsounding.
another example: 01:46:395 (1,2,3,4) - where 3 has a kick and should imo be differentiated from the other 3 sliders but isn't at all
this issue appears to me in all of the kiais, in various places.

02:05:301 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - i don't see why you repeated this pattern when the song isn't repeating >.>
02:19:363 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this measure seems weirdly dense in rhythm compared to previous ones.
02:51:238 (1,1) - pretty sure this is the only time you highlight the kicks like this. why here and nowhere else?
03:43:113 - break here?
04:27:957 (3,4) - another thing i kinda don't like... song seems to be emphasizing 3 the most (as with your hitsounds) but in the end 4 has emphasis instead
04:46:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - here, same thing with the repetition not really existing in the song

i'm not really a fan of the constant 1/4 rhythm, it makes the map feel kind of overdone to me. good luck!
Lavender
i wanna drop some opinions before this map is bubbled
  1. 01:37:645 (1) - slidertail follows a kick and sliderhead follows literally no(or a very weak) sound, that plays really weird.
    patterns like this are more suitable imo (but rip patterns)
    e.g. 02:51:238 (1,2) -
  2. 01:56:395 - i think you need a clickable object here
  3. 02:56:238 (3,1,2,3) - rhythm here could be improved. 02:56:395 (1) - sliderhead follows no(or a very weak) sound
    Try this
  4. 04:32:332 (2) - same
Good Luck!
Victoire
bro this storyboard is good shit
Topic Starter
toybot
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Battle wrote:

[General]
Think transparency can be cut down a bit for fog circle dot and highlight pngs
OD is kinda low considering AR but w/e
metadata in description doesn't have feat. nanahira in picture, do you have a source that says feat nanahira?

aaaand can you get someone Japanese to confirm lyrics lol

[Diff]
01:05:613 (2) - this curve looks pretty gross imo // its w/e
01:17:020 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe make this slightly less touching, imo it would help since you already introduced pretty close circles so it would help people recognize this is 1/2 instead of 1/4
01:46:395 (1,2,3,4) - idk, this feels pretty overdone, the music isn't really doing a whole lot special here but the way this pattern plays it put a lot of emphasis on nothing
02:03:270 (1,2,3) - I'm just gonna point this out once cuz there'll probably be more but I'm just tryna make sure this is a stylistic choice and not an error lol // stylistic choice
02:55:926 (1,2,3) - Kinda like the other one, this kinda feels like there's a lot of stress to the music when there isn't too much there, I'm more surprised by this cuz the vocals were pretty intense then the part afterward is more intense than the vocals z
04:27:801 (2,3,4) - mmm 4 gets the same kind of emphasis even though 2,3 have significant beats and that bugs me
04:46:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - This pattern is kinda going against your hitsounding since it's kinda just going along by itself while the more important beats are kinda just ignored, more notably 3 which gets really low spacing despite being a kick

probs be back, maybe when I feel less tired lol

cute bg btw

Naotoshi wrote:

hi

[petals]
00:15:770 (1,2) - meh doing this sort of thing kinda messes up the constant cursor motion cuz you gotta stop on the slider end and wait for the next circle. imo spacing them would maintain the motion instead // spacing them would feel a bit forced considering this slider is relatively slow
00:48:895 (2,2) - stack these?
01:22:020 (1,2) - having these both as 1/2 sliders feels weird to me cuz 01:22:332 (2,1) - are clearly paired together and 01:22:020 (1) - is not
01:32:645 (1,2) - this makes kind weird finger polarity or w/e can you make it 2 circles?
01:34:988 (4) - overmapped fullscreen jump ok_hand
01:35:301 (2,3,4) - this is the only time you do this kinda thing, maybe hard to read? all other times the circles don't overlap the slider
01:34:988 (4,2,3) - considering these, wouldn't it make sense to place a kickslider at 01:38:582 (1) - instead? // the music suggests the stream imo
overall i don't really like how you switch between circle and sliders for the kicks in this section, seems as though the clicking rhythm is kinda disconnected from the hitsounding.
another example: 01:46:395 (1,2,3,4) - where 3 has a kick and should imo be differentiated from the other 3 sliders but isn't at all
this issue appears to me in all of the kiais, in various places.

02:05:301 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - i don't see why you repeated this pattern when the song isn't repeating >.>
02:19:363 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - this measure seems weirdly dense in rhythm compared to previous ones. // thats intentional
02:51:238 (1,1) - pretty sure this is the only time you highlight the kicks like this. why here and nowhere else? // because there's nothing else going on in the rhythm at that time
03:43:113 - break here?
04:27:957 (3,4) - another thing i kinda don't like... song seems to be emphasizing 3 the most (as with your hitsounds) but in the end 4 has emphasis instead
04:46:551 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - here, same thing with the repetition not really existing in the song // idk, it's interesting to me

i'm not really a fan of the constant 1/4 rhythm, it makes the map feel kind of overdone to me. good luck!

Lavender wrote:

i wanna drop some opinions before this map is bubbled
  1. 01:37:645 (1) - slidertail follows a kick and sliderhead follows literally no(or a very weak) sound, that plays really weird.
    patterns like this are more suitable imo (but rip patterns)
    e.g. 02:51:238 (1,2) -
  2. 01:56:395 - i think you need a clickable object here // i kinda like this pattern, and slider ending on downbeat is repeated in other areas
  3. 02:56:238 (3,1,2,3) - rhythm here could be improved. 02:56:395 (1) - sliderhead follows no(or a very weak) sound // downbeat's always p strong
    Try this
  4. 04:32:332 (2) - same // whistle
Good Luck!

thanks!
Kagetsu
[General]
  1. gimme metadata
[Petals]
  1. there are a lot of stacks that are near to being unreadable. this one 04:34:207 (2,3,1) - , for example could be replaced for something like this. tl;dr enable stacking
  2. 01:28:114 (4,5,6) - could replace this for a reverse arrow slider? i don't think this part should be that dense
  3. 01:38:582 (2,3,4,5,1) - it feels kinda awkward compared to similar instances in the music, such as 01:43:582 (1,2,3,4,1) - or 01:48:582 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think that using a circular motion creates a much more fitting atmosphere
  4. 01:56:395 - it feels kinda weird that it's on a slidertail, i think it would be a lot better if you make it clickable, as the sound is prominent enough to do so
  5. 02:29:832 (1,2,3) - feels a bit exaggerated in terms of spacing, as music is building up, there should not be spacing changes as big as those i already mentioned.
  6. 04:08:113 (5,6,7) - similar xd
yea
Topic Starter
toybot

Kagetsu wrote:

[General]
  1. gimme metadata
http://puu.sh/wfSM1/f0917b72ce.png

[Petals]
  1. there are a lot of stacks that are near to being unreadable. this one 04:34:207 (2,3,1) - , for example could be replaced for something like this. tl;dr enable stacking
  2. 01:28:114 (4,5,6) - could replace this for a reverse arrow slider? i don't think this part should be that dense
  3. 01:38:582 (2,3,4,5,1) - it feels kinda awkward compared to similar instances in the music, such as 01:43:582 (1,2,3,4,1) - or 01:48:582 (1,2,3,4,1) - i think that using a circular motion creates a much more fitting atmosphere // i tried to make it flow better, doing exactly circular motion is hard here imo
  4. 01:56:395 - it feels kinda weird that it's on a slidertail, i think it would be a lot better if you make it clickable, as the sound is prominent enough to do so // fine
  5. 02:29:832 (1,2,3) - feels a bit exaggerated in terms of spacing, as music is building up, there should not be spacing changes as big as those i already mentioned.
  6. 04:08:113 (5,6,7) - similar xd
yea
thanks!
Len
N i c e m ap
Battle
one last thing 04:32:332 (2) - it's weird that the kick ended up on a slider end

rest of this check was done in irc, but I uninstalled the game and didn't have the log messages thing checked, basically we just fixed a few stacks and adjusted a rhythm and made a jump bigger lol
Battle
loli vocals
Kagetsu
👀
Topic Starter
toybot
:OO
Lama Poluna
this is the best map I ever seen in my life
gratzu
Kalibe
grats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haruto
finally, congrats toybot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gloria Guard
Good
Garalulu
Halo! I have a question about the lyrics in storyboard.
plz check some pic o w o :)

Lyrics
光と暗闇のように 初めから
冷たい鉄の天秤の上だと 分かっていた
もしどこか別の場所で巡り合う運命なら
何度も思った 時の音は鳴り止まなかった
失われていった か弱いその温度が
淀み果てた空を 望んでいた色に変える
答えのないパズルだった 初めから
正しさに身を委ねるか 全てを諦めるか
剣を振るうのも 弓を放つのも
怖くない それなのに震えて 躊躇っている
求める希望の夢 手を伸ばせば伸ばすほど
選択肢は尖り 残酷なほど近づく
傷だらけのその手が 救ってくれたこの手
握っているのは 君を倒すための光
弱く閉じた瞼 世界はきっと知らない
その明日の轍に 散っていく闇夜の欠片
全て終わったなら きっと会いに来よう
失われていった か弱いその温度が
淀み果てた空を 望んでいた色に変える

[Blossom]

00:29:832 - 00:37:645 - "光と暗闇のように 初めか". is missing.

00:39:832 - 00:50:145 - "冷たい鉄の天秤の上だと 分かってい". is missing.

00:59:832 - 01:07:020 - "運命なら 何度も思った 時の音は". 音は is missing.

01:53:582 - 02:01:395 - "答えのないパズルだった 初めか". is missing.

02:03:582 - 02:13:895 - "正しさに身を委ねるか 全てを諦める". is missing.

02:14:520 - 02:23:270 - "剣を振るうのも 弓を放つの". is missing.

02:23:582 - 02:23:582 - "怖くない それなのに震え". is missing.

03:27:957 - 03:33:895 - "握っているのは 君を倒". is missing.
Left
kul
Kyouren
Gratzz :3
blobdash
hmmm meta seems wrong :thinking:
iamkwan seems to be wrong

meta from official MP3
Général
Complete name : 06 Petals.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio
File size : 13,5 Mio
Duration : 5mn 46s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 320 Kbps
Album : Secretale
Part/Position : 1
Part/Total : 1
Track name : Petals
Track name/Position : 06
Track name/Total : 10
Performer : かめりあ & ななひら
Writing library : LAME3.99r
Cover : Yes
Cover type : Cover (front)
Cover MIME : image/jpeg

the artist should be Camellia ft. Nanahira, and camellia should not only be in the tags
gratz on ranking though! i'll be happy to play it!
(plz don't disqualify for this)
Ellyu
oh thanks for rank this
pishifat
hey, you should do something about the missing storyboard lyrics garalulu pointed out here: p/6075970
Topic Starter
toybot
o i haven't checked thread at all
i'll ask kanari to fix it asap
Doormat

FruityEnLoops wrote:

hmmm meta seems wrong :thinking:
iamkwan seems to be wrong

meta from official MP3
Général
Complete name : 06 Petals.mp3
Format : MPEG Audio
File size : 13,5 Mio
Duration : 5mn 46s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 320 Kbps
Album : Secretale
Part/Position : 1
Part/Total : 1
Track name : Petals
Track name/Position : 06
Track name/Total : 10
Performer : かめりあ & ななひら
Writing library : LAME3.99r
Cover : Yes
Cover type : Cover (front)
Cover MIME : image/jpeg

the artist should be Camellia ft. Nanahira, and camellia should not only be in the tags
gratz on ranking though! i'll be happy to play it!
(plz don't disqualify for this)
just saying, but they provided an official source for the metadata whereas you didn't; this can hardly be considered as legitimate or correct. the source they provided shows that Nanahira is the artist, so current metadata is acceptable.

that being said, gl with requalification toybot~
Battle
this is why i don't push forward sb maps lmao
blobdash

Doormat wrote:

just saying, but they provided an official source for the metadata whereas you didn't; I did this can hardly be considered as legitimate or correct. the source they provided shows that Nanahira is the artist, so current metadata is acceptable.

that being said, gl with requalification toybot~
So, if you want proof of what i'm saying :
Here's the MP3 : https://puu.sh/wr6Jt/bdb1bacf58.mp3
Source : http://hikarinoakariost.info/c91-confet ... secretale/
Check the ID3 tags.
It's just like the one in the box on my post ^.
This song is an Utaite by Nanahira, and the original creator is Camellia.
Doormat

FruityEnLoops wrote:

Doormat wrote:

just saying, but they provided an official source for the metadata whereas you didn't; I did this can hardly be considered as legitimate or correct. the source they provided shows that Nanahira is the artist, so current metadata is acceptable.

that being said, gl with requalification toybot~
So, if you want proof of what i'm saying :
Here's the MP3 : https://puu.sh/wr6Jt/bdb1bacf58.mp3
Source : http://hikarinoakariost.info/c91-confet ... secretale/
Check the ID3 tags.
It's just like the one in the box on my post ^.
This song is an Utaite by Nanahira, and the original creator is Camellia.
you're missing the point. the link you provided is not an official source by the artist, so it doesn't matter if the mp3 claims it is "official" because it can't be proven. the website link that IAmKwan provided, however, is an official source by the artist, so that's why current metadata is acceptable.

please learn about using proper sources before making claims about wrong metadata.
blobdash

Doormat wrote:

you're missing the point. the link you provided is not an official source by the artist, so it doesn't matter if the mp3 claims it is "official" because it can't be proven. the website link that IAmKwan provided, however, is an official source by the artist, so that's why current metadata is acceptable.

please learn about using proper sources before making claims about wrong metadata.
k den
http://ec.akbh.jp/products/detail.php?p ... 0000071753

AKIBA-HOBBY wrote:

06.Petals
イラスト:鍵空富焼
作編曲:かめりあ作詞:かめりあ
which translated with google translate gives "Work Arrangement: Camelia Lyrics: Camelia"

https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/det ... _id=196071
かめりあ (Camellia) is listed in the artist section

https://diverse.direct/confetto/cfcd-0013/
Again, Camellia is listed

btw, AKIBA, Melonbooks and diverse direct links are official retailers of secretale

hikarinoakariost's mp3s are from diverse direct most of the time, but ofc I can't prove it. just saying.
Shmiklak
lmao, dq at the 7th day of qualified gg
Doormat

FruityEnLoops wrote:

k den
http://ec.akbh.jp/products/detail.php?p ... 0000071753

AKIBA-HOBBY wrote:

06.Petals
イラスト:鍵空富焼
作編曲:かめりあ作詞:かめりあ
which translated with google translate gives "Work Arrangement: Camelia Lyrics: Camelia" that's the composer; the vocalist is still nanahira and doesn't prove my point, since it's usually the vocalist that gets credited as the artist

https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/detail/det ... _id=196071
かめりあ (Camellia) is listed in the artist section so are Nanahira, Harunaba, Massive New Knew, etc. should we include them in the artist as well? this link isn't specific enough as to who did which track

https://diverse.direct/confetto/cfcd-0013/
Again, Camellia is listed same as the first link

btw, AKIBA, Melonbooks and diverse direct links are official retailers of secretale official retailer links aren't considered official sources

hikarinoakariost's mp3s are from diverse direct most of the time, but ofc I can't prove it. just saying. and i could easily change the ID3 tags from the .mp3 file; it doesn't mean that it'll be correct though. just saying.
blobdash

Doormat wrote:

that's the composer; the vocalist is still nanahira and doesn't prove my point, since it's usually the vocalist that gets credited as the artist see at the bottom

so are Nanahira, Harunaba, Massive New Knew, etc. should we include them in the artist as well? this link isn't specific enough as to who did which track just pushing up the fact that Camellia participated in the making of the song

same as the first link

[b]official retailer links aren't considered official sources LOL

and i could easily change the ID3 tags from the .mp3 file; it doesn't mean that it'll be correct though. just saying. that's why I linked where I got the files, if you wanted to verify if I didn't changed the IDT3... idk why would I do that though

Wikipedia wrote:

An artist is a person engaged in an activity related to creating art, practicing the arts, or demonstrating an art.

So is the composer. But after all, i've never ranked anything, so why listening to me?

anyway, i'm done here.
Kyouren
Nanahira is fine as artist, same case like yf_bmp's map and Janpai's map

p/5458448#p5458448
p/5525872#p5525872
blobdash

KittyAdventure wrote:

Nanahira is fine as artist, same case like yf_bmp's map and Janpai's map

p/5458448#p5458448
p/5525872#p5525872
lol, so another song is a source for this one
as doormat would say

Doormat wrote:

the link you provided is not an official source by the artist
Illyasviel

FruityEnLoops wrote:

KittyAdventure wrote:

Nanahira is fine as artist, same case like yf_bmp's map and Janpai's map

p/5458448#p5458448
p/5525872#p5525872
lol, so another song is a source for this one
as doormat would say

Doormat wrote:

the link you provided is not an official source by the artist
This is a Nanahira release. It's on her discography on her official page. The rest of the artists showing up there
are just contributing artists. Confetto it's Nanahira's personal circle. So the metadata is fine.
Kanari
sb fixed~ https://puu.sh/wsJoP.zip replace the lyrics folder too
Kyouren
Battle
The moon runes are there now
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