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Dunderpatrullen - We Are Number One (Remix) [Taiko]

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Surono


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kantan kantan is meme, i mean yeah "its my style" i guess. LNO Oni madness but ok im fine since its higher diff.. so naming diff so ye fin e ye so
Skylish
Stefan: > - changed title one more time after Lno could provide me the source, directly from the artist. p/6048154

Issue about Diff. name about 'We are No.1', can you show it out? I am doubtful about the formatting of GDers which should be consistent.

Kantan's Kantan but why not Lno's Oni;
Oni but Lno's, but why not Kantan but Kantan's ?

Would you mind showing the source that Lno provided for you, and his explanation as well?

The difficulty naming system should be consistent under any circumstances.
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Midnaait

Skylish wrote:

Stefan: > - changed title one more time after Lno could provide me the source, directly from the artist. p/6048154

Issue about Diff. name about 'We are No.1', can you show it out? I am doubtful about the formatting of GDers which should be consistent.

Kantan's Kantan but why not Lno's Oni;
Oni but Lno's, but why not Kantan but Kantan's ?

Would you mind showing the source that Lno provided for you, and his explanation as well?

The difficulty naming system should be consistent under any circumstances.
About the diff names, there is no rule/guideline for "consistent" diff names afaik, and it says clearly the diff level on the first word and the mapper, just said differently. cmon, memes :^)

And source on song's name is on Lno's response, I'll link them again


Hanjamon
finally, gratz :3
Surono

Skylish wrote:

Oni but Lno's, but why not Kantan but Kantan's ?
this quote already meme lmao
if the mapset are applied with all diffnaming like that, kantan is lower diff cuz above muzu is higher diff so used costume diffname and its related.
Raiden
Agreed with Skylish, difficulty naming is inconsistent (therefore disallowed) and should be fixed as soon as possible. Not a big deal, can be requalified right away after fixing it.
Surono
okey lets dq it, it was just 2hours ago.. not like a half week or close to be ranked, you can be salty for that Lno if like that...
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hello, this map has been disqualified for inconsistent nomenclature of guest difficulties and inappropriate custom difficulty naming.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming.
In this case, "Oni but it's Lno's" is regarded as a custom difficulty name while it is not the highest difficulty. In addition, it clashes with how the Kantan guest difficulty is named. Please consider changing it to "Lno's Oni".
Kantan
now i am a sadtan. :(
Nao Tomori
Hey, I don't think that Oni diffname is considered a custom diff name. As you could see on some other maps, like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380 or https://osu.ppy.sh/s/358056 you could see that putting random stuff outside of what is normal (kantan futsuu etc) is still not considered as the one custom diffname till the actual level of difficulty is not in the name.

Anyway, what I mean is that you should change the Kantan name instead of the Oni since that is more related to the spirit of the song / meme / thingy. That should be acceptable for ranking.
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Midnaait

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hello, this map has been disqualified for inconsistent nomenclature of guest difficulties and inappropriate custom difficulty naming.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

A difficulty's name must indicate its level of difficulty, with the exception of the hardest level of difficulty in a set. The mapset's hardest difficulty may use an appropriate custom difficulty name, unrelated to a username. Mapsets may also use a complete set of custom difficulty names that clearly indicate their level of difficulty to the player. Marathon maps with a single difficulty may use free naming.
In this case, "Oni but it's Lno's" is regarded as a custom difficulty name while it is not the highest difficulty. In addition, it clashes with how the Kantan guest difficulty is named. Please consider changing it to "Lno's Oni".
Changed Lno's diff name

But remember what you said about consistency in diff names https://osu.ppy.sh/s/513590 (Unless there's something I'm missing)

Naotoshi wrote:

Hey, I don't think that Oni diffname is considered a custom diff name. As you could see on some other maps, like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380 or https://osu.ppy.sh/s/358056 you could see that putting random stuff outside of what is normal (kantan futsuu etc) is still not considered as the one custom diffname till the actual level of difficulty is not in the name.

Anyway, what I mean is that you should change the Kantan name instead of the Oni since that is more related to the spirit of the song / meme / thingy. That should be acceptable for ranking.

DW about that, it's not a big deal for me, but don't do it yourselves please
Nardoxyribonucleic

Naotoshi wrote:

Hey, I don't think that Oni diffname is considered a custom diff name. As you could see on some other maps, like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380 or https://osu.ppy.sh/s/358056 you could see that putting random stuff outside of what is normal (kantan futsuu etc) is still not considered as the one custom diffname till the actual level of difficulty is not in the name.

Anyway, what I mean is that you should change the Kantan name instead of the Oni since that is more related to the spirit of the song / meme / thingy. That should be acceptable for ranking.
Custom difficulty name refers to neologism out of ordinary nomenclature (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane, Expert and add "X's" if it is a guest difficulty). That does not mean adding random words plus the actual level of difficulty as difficulty name is still considered as non-custom. The examples you showed could be disqualified due to this. Moreover, I do not think extending memes in ranking criteria related matters is beneficial to the ranked section.

Midnaait wrote:

But remember what you said about consistency in diff names https://osu.ppy.sh/s/513590 (Unless there's something I'm missing)
Both difficulties are of the highest tier and have exactly the same star difficulty, so it still follows the said ranking criterion somehow.
Stefan
I just think that "consistency in guest difficulty names" isn't mentioned as legitimate rule break. If ever, that should be added in this point. And for the first example Naotoshi has been mentioned, this topic should be discussed again since some inconsistency in what "custom" and "non-custom" difficulty names is understood, exist for the QAT/BNG.
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Midnaait
So what do we do? I'm technically not breaking anything atm if there's no rule lol (And I really want to keep the diff name :? )
Monstrata
If the GD's use a different syntax, so should the regular difficulties. Otherwise, you have two different custom naming "sets" in one mapset, and you are only allowed to use one custom naming set as stated in the rules.
Nwolf
Is it that hard to understand that either the HIGHEST difficulty or the WHOLE SET use custom names? And of course, if it's the whole set, it has to be logical and consistent. That's in the RC. I really don't understand why there is still discussion over this particular case.
Topic Starter
Midnaait

Nwolf wrote:

Is it that hard to understand that either the HIGHEST difficulty or the WHOLE SET use custom names? And of course, if it's the whole set, it has to be logical and consistent. That's in the RC. I really don't understand why there is still discussion over this particular case.
Let me ask something, if I keep the previous name for the oni, but change Kantan to "Kantan but it's Kantan's" it'd be okay?
Stefan
It'd still collide with the "only the hardest difficulty is allowed to use custom difficulty names" rule but there are recent case that break that rule anyway. But freely from the consistency it'd be fine, yes.
Skylish

Naotoshi wrote:

Hey, I don't think that Oni diffname is considered a custom diff name. As you could see on some other maps, like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/219380 or https://osu.ppy.sh/s/358056 you could see that putting random stuff outside of what is normal (kantan futsuu etc) is still not considered as the one custom diffname till the actual level of difficulty is not in the name.

Anyway, what I mean is that you should change the Kantan name instead of the Oni since that is more related to the spirit of the song / meme / thingy. That should be acceptable for ranking.
Speaking of the 1st mentioned map, I have no idea why STD can have such kind of naming system: Extra = Custom Name, but it is not going to happen, or it does not happen in Taiko anyway.

Concerning the 2nd mentioned map, it keeps a constant GDers' naming system, so that'd be fine. While I was also suggesting the possibilities of GD names in this mapset at p/6050554 .
Nardoxyribonucleic
Rechecked and confirmed with the difficulty name change to Lno's Oni. Nothing has been changed apart from that.

Requalified~
Surono
yayy duud its back <3

taiko are number one but its mi-
thx to slidar from muzu and nice madnuts Lno
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