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Battle
Lol naw i just removed the extra weeaboo altogether
Bara-
[Weeaboo]
00:33:214 (1,2) - This plays really awkward imo
01:05:785 (5) - To follow you NCs, NC this (every beat in the stream)

Call me
Topic Starter
Battle
im so bad, i didn't check this for a while, all fixed
Bara-
Let's try again!
Battle, for the next BN, try to find someone who is of a high rank, and can thus rate Weeaboo better. I think it's fine, but if the qualify comes from a great player at least it also plays fine for the better players
Kuki
yay hype for rank
Underforest
rip weeaboo dream
Okoratu
if this trend continues this'll end up as a ENH set
Rizen
mmm
Topic Starter
Battle
if it became an enh set people would start complaining that there needs to be another diff because the music is too intense rip
Hula
[Weeaboo]
01:14:185 (7) - Confusing spacing, I thought you were spacing off of the synth, but there's no synth here.
01:16:414 (5) - 0.88 spacing? so confusing, this slider even has synths on the start and end and a drum on the end.
01:17:785 (4,5) - Why are these the same object whilst the rhythm changes? the second repeat slider shouldn't be 1/4, really borked. First repeat slider would play better as a stacked triple too.
01:19:842 (1) - haven't modded this, just looked in editor, why isn't this mapped? this is so play breaking,

this is the rhythm here in circles, place sliders or w.e u want, even just stacking the 2 and 3 on top of the 1 makes for awesome play. This is such a hugely missed opportunity.

01:22:071 (4,5,6) - could be neater, straight line or 5 is equally spaced between 4 and 6.
01:23:100 (3,4,5) - same again

Map is littered with those sorts of things (not polished)

01:24:642 (3) - something like this should probably be 1/2 circles to emphasise the synth
01:26:528 (1) - space more, this synth is batshit.
tbh, not sure what's going on with the spacing in weeaboo now i look at it, sorry dude D:

ehh, I really don't have time to mod this though especially with a laptop and trackpad in editor QQ, thought i would bring up some of these issues though before it's too late!


note being mean by bubble popping, saw someone np the map, saw it in editor went to comment. I tried to make a brief but broad range of the issues i'd otherwise bring up in greater detail (don't kd, not worth it)

edit: sorry, quick edit, i think that your chioce of rhythms in weeaboo were not optimal and representative enough and could be done better, whilst also keeping within the bounds of the intended difficulty. Just thugoht i'd clarify that :)
Topic Starter
Battle
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Hula wrote:

[Weeaboo]
01:14:185 (7) - Confusing spacing, I thought you were spacing off of the synth, but there's no synth here.
01:16:414 (5) - 0.88 spacing? so confusing, this slider even has synths on the start and end and a drum on the end.
01:17:785 (4,5) - Why are these the same object whilst the rhythm changes? the second repeat slider shouldn't be 1/4, really borked. First repeat slider would play better as a stacked triple too.
01:19:842 (1) - haven't modded this, just looked in editor, why isn't this mapped? this is so play breaking, [/color]

this is the rhythm here in circles, place sliders or w.e u want, even just stacking the 2 and 3 on top of the 1 makes for awesome play. This is such a hugely missed opportunity.

01:22:071 (4,5,6) - could be neater, straight line or 5 is equally spaced between 4 and 6.
01:23:100 (3,4,5) - same again

Map is littered with those sorts of things (not polished)

01:24:642 (3) - something like this should probably be 1/2 circles to emphasise the synth Think this is fine for now, I noticed that most of the synths in this map had sliders for them so I think it's fine yeah
01:26:528 (1) - space more, this synth is batshit.
tbh, not sure what's going on with the spacing in weeaboo now i look at it, sorry dude D:

ehh, I really don't have time to mod this though especially with a laptop and trackpad in editor QQ, thought i would bring up some of these issues though before it's too late!


note being mean by bubble popping, saw someone np the map, saw it in editor went to comment. I tried to make a brief but broad range of the issues i'd otherwise bring up in greater detail (don't kd, not worth it)

edit: sorry, quick edit, i think that your chioce of rhythms in weeaboo were not optimal and representative enough and could be done better, whilst also keeping within the bounds of the intended difficulty. Just thugoht i'd clarify that :) I think it's optimal enough, since it's on the lighter side of insane diffs, the diff spread should be fine since the diffs relatively lead to the next diff (rhythm-wise etc.) so if I were to do something like make the streamy parts streamier (e.g. 01:29:442 - ) there wouldn't really be any lead in to long streams like that, so I think it should be fine here.

Fixed some emphasis parts on map, small edit to a slider shape, end relatively untouched due to the spacing being like that since it's the only chorus with lyrics, thus it should be different .3.
Bara-
#3
Hoping everyone thinks it's better now >_>
Hula

Baraatje123 wrote:

#3
Hoping everyone thinks it's better now >_>
No? Haven't looked at it again yet. But he seemed to teject a lot of points i made and i did it kinda quickly, should have more mods from high quality modders imo. Since that was my thought when i madea a quick post (which wasn't a mod)
Bara-
Oops, my bad
Popping it for now
Call me when it's done
Hula
sorry. was a really slow double post cos of slow mobile net - delete please.
Topic Starter
Battle
k i go search now on free time
neonat
My 2 cents.

Highest difficulty

00:00:814 (2,3) - why is this spaced larger than 00:01:328 (4,1) - ? I feel there should be more emphasis with 00:01:671 (1) rather than the middle of that phrase
00:04:414 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - the 3/4 slider just doesn't sound or feel good, and it's not just the additional sound produced. The held vocals and the part of the song here is still not very strong. At least from 00:12:642 (1) onwards that section seems to have progressed with the intensity
00:20:528 (4,1) - difference between this and 00:19:157 (4,1) - ? Why would just one stack or one unstack only?
00:20:871 (1,2,3,4) - could use some different direction change at 00:21:214 (2,3,4) - if not 00:20:871 (1) would stick out of this pattern
00:25:671 (1,2,3) - I don't think you should stack them all, in fact I believe spacing them out would do the music better
00:28:071 (3,4,5,6,7) - could you direct this upwards with the music
00:32:185 (3,4) - triplet to slider would honestly be closer to the rhythm, but yeh the idea of going upwards with the music is here which you can do for above suggestion ^:

00:35:100 (4,5,6) - this is really masking what the song is here, you added 2 repeat slider, making some general rhythm which isn't suited for the song. Tailor is for the song, sure you might want to diversify with your own rhythm, but it isn't working here. This is what I got from the song; single beat at 00:35:100 and 1/4 triplets from 00:35:271 to 00:35:442 before having a slider from 00:35:614 to 00:35:785 - :
00:38:357 (4,5) - stack? You made them similar hitsounded, making the sound a like a repetitive beat
01:02:014 (1) - I suggest you don't keep changing the rhythm, else everything just becomes just another pattern which doesn't hold much meaning. The song starts building up here, you use the repeat slider. But then you switch the rhythm at 01:03:385 (1) when it is the similar tune and change everything, making any force that could have been built up from using the same rhythm get diffused.
01:11:957 (2) - doesn't feel right with the strong beat on the slider end
01:18:471 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this feels too cramped. Either because of 01:18:814 (2,3) or 01:19:157 (3,4) - something in the spacing just makes it off
01:32:528 (2,3) - movement kinda awkward
01:39:385 (2,3) - would definitely help is 01:39:385 (2) is lower
01:32:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - nothing less than 1.0x spacing please, especially those moving in the same direction, which tend to be smaller spacing than those facing each other; that's just cramping everything up and it's limiting movement
01:45:214 (3,4,5,6,7) - shape could be improved, that includes others like 01:46:585 (3,4,5,6,7) as well
02:00:985 (1,2,3,4,5) - this changing spacing isn't really working ideally here
02:11:614 (3) - slider end on strong beat, doesn't feel right
02:32:100 (5) - even placing it at 02:31:757 would be better, leave the tune at 02:32:014 to be clearer for all
02:38:014 (1) - not sure for the tunes like this, where the synth starts on the slider end, could really be emphasized more than what it is right now
02:41:100 (1,2) - maybe stack them up to allow the slowdown to ease in for the later part:
02:47:271 (5,6,1) - spacing pretty lopsided. If anything, like before, the new phrase I believe should have the bigger spacing
02:48:471 (4,5,6,1) - very drastic change in spacing from before, there was nothing like this beforehand, just spiking this over here
02:56:100 (2) - additive note
Topic Starter
Battle
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neonat wrote:

My 2 cents.

Highest difficulty

00:00:814 (2,3) - why is this spaced larger than 00:01:328 (4,1) - ? I feel there should be more emphasis with 00:01:671 (1) rather than the middle of that phrase
00:04:414 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - the 3/4 slider just doesn't sound or feel good, and it's not just the additional sound produced. The held vocals and the part of the song here is still not very strong. At least from 00:12:642 (1) onwards that section seems to have progressed with the intensity
00:20:528 (4,1) - difference between this and 00:19:157 (4,1) - ? Why would just one stack or one unstack only? I decided to stack the one of 4,1 since previous to that, the pattern mentioned (the 19 sec one) is part of the build up, I find these two distinct enough for them to be different in this way
00:20:871 (1,2,3,4) - could use some different direction change at 00:21:214 (2,3,4) - if not 00:20:871 (1) would stick out of this pattern I didn't really get what you were trying to say here, but changed some stuff up
00:25:671 (1,2,3) - I don't think you should stack them all, in fact I believe spacing them out would do the music better No more stacked, but now anti-jumps because I think it fits nicely with music here
00:28:071 (3,4,5,6,7) - could you direct this upwards with the music
00:32:185 (3,4) - triplet to slider would honestly be closer to the rhythm, but yeh the idea of going upwards with the music is here which you can do for above suggestion ^:

00:35:100 (4,5,6) - this is really masking what the song is here, you added 2 repeat slider, making some general rhythm which isn't suited for the song. Tailor is for the song, sure you might want to diversify with your own rhythm, but it isn't working here. This is what I got from the song; single beat at 00:35:100 and 1/4 triplets from 00:35:271 to 00:35:442 before having a slider from 00:35:614 to 00:35:785 - :
00:38:357 (4,5) - stack? You made them similar hitsounded, making the sound a like a repetitive beat
01:02:014 (1) - I suggest you don't keep changing the rhythm, else everything just becomes just another pattern which doesn't hold much meaning. The song starts building up here, you use the repeat slider. But then you switch the rhythm at 01:03:385 (1) when it is the similar tune and change everything, making any force that could have been built up from using the same rhythm get diffused.
01:11:957 (2) - doesn't feel right with the strong beat on the slider end
01:18:471 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - this feels too cramped. Either because of 01:18:814 (2,3) or 01:19:157 (3,4) - something in the spacing just makes it off
01:32:528 (2,3) - movement kinda awkward
01:39:385 (2,3) - would definitely help is 01:39:385 (2) is lower
01:32:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - nothing less than 1.0x spacing please, especially those moving in the same direction, which tend to be smaller spacing than those facing each other; that's just cramping everything up and it's limiting movement
01:45:214 (3,4,5,6,7) - shape could be improved, that includes others like 01:46:585 (3,4,5,6,7) as well
02:00:985 (1,2,3,4,5) - this changing spacing isn't really working ideally here
02:11:614 (3) - slider end on strong beat, doesn't feel right
02:32:100 (5) - even placing it at 02:31:757 would be better, leave the tune at 02:32:014 to be clearer for all Don't really get clearer for all but moved note to triplet at start
02:38:014 (1) - not sure for the tunes like this, where the synth starts on the slider end, could really be emphasized more than what it is right now
02:41:100 (1,2) - maybe stack them up to allow the slowdown to ease in for the later part:
02:47:271 (5,6,1) - spacing pretty lopsided. If anything, like before, the new phrase I believe should have the bigger spacing
02:48:471 (4,5,6,1) - very drastic change in spacing from before, there was nothing like this beforehand, just spiking this over here
02:56:100 (2) - additive note

thanks, most all fix~
Stjpa
Modded it months ago, but whatever. I'm more experienced now.~
Gonna go full nazi, so prepare yourselves.

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Easy

Personally I'd still nerf the SV a bit as it seems a bit high for an Easy, but that's just my opinion though.
00:20:185 (5,6) - Why do you go straight down there? Would be totally understandable if it was something to emphasize or smth.
00:29:100 (1,2,3,4) - Since you don't use a system here you could place (2) a bit more to the left for a curvier flow.
00:42:814 (1,2) - This placement doesn't really make sense, especially because you don't do this all the time so this isn't a part of your system.
01:00:300 (4) - Making this slider curvier would make more sense because this looks kinda forced.
01:08:185 (2,3,4) - This looks HELLA forced, really. Without having something to emphasize it doesn't make super much sense.
01:14:700 (4,5,1) - Placing (5) and (1) higher wouldn't be too bad because of the sudden direction change you use here.
02:02:357 (1,2,3) - Having a lineal flow here would definitely be better because this way you have a lot of direction changes too.
02:21:900 (4,5) - Transition is very strange, maybe rotate (5)?
02:39:385 (1,2) - Fix blanket.


Rocket's Normal

PLEASE check your DS in the whole map, at some points they are very inconsistent. (ex. 01:37:157 (5) - 01:38:357 (2) )
00:10:585 (5,6,1) - This looks (and probably is) forced due to problems of place. I'd suggestion to change the previous pattern and completely re-work this part.
00:15:385 (4,5) - Slidertail of (4) doesn't directly show to (5), which is very weird imo.
00:45:214 (5) - You have more than enough space to make this slider pretty. There's no super high pitched and very weird vocal, so no need to curve it that much.
01:09:557 (5,6,1) - This looks extremely dumb. I see that you wanted to blanket it and so on, but you should look for another solution here honestly.
01:15:728 (1) - Wouldn't look that bad if this slider would go to the bottom right corner.
01:25:671 (4,5,6) - Doesn't look and flow too well. Easy to fix, if you decide so.
01:26:357 (6,2) - They touch. Sure it isn't visible ingame, but it triggers me because of you curve u wanted to to after the reverse slider. At least 01:27:728 (3) - place this one lower. ;_;
01:29:100 (7,2,3) - What the hell is this overlap. :o
01:30:471 (3,5) - Touching. Also not a big deal, but I'd suggest to rotate 01:30:814 (4) - slightly so you can flow the circles after that slider a bit better.
01:32:185 (1,2,3) - Why would you ever place objects like this in a Normal? It looks so ugly and isn't good for this low difficulty.
01:33:557 (4,5,6) - You always forced a curve to the next object / slider but here you break the system for whatever reason and make a questionable way up (let stand alone the fact that 01:34:585 (6,2) even touch lol).
01:37:157 (5,6) - Why not just making a linear flow to the next object?
01:39:042 (3) - You can actually try to stack it with a circle from 01:37:157 (5,6) .
01:40:414 (1,3) - God and Saviour pishiskinny told me that something like this is anything but recommendable. It's really meh that (3) appears before (1) even has its way back.
01:46:928 - 01:48:300 - 01:49:671 - 01:51:042 - Why suddenly no circles? I get that the music gets quieter but the drums are really hearable, no reason to stop using circles here.
02:21:557 (3,4,5) - Questionale transition again.
02:24:642 (5,6) - Blanket it properly.
02:28:071 (5,7) - Hello overlap.
02:32:528 (1) - Suddenly two reverses? This is confusing as hell for newer players. You didn't use one slider like this before.
02:44:528 (7,1) - Improve blanket.
02:52:757 (8,1) - Why using such a strange transition when you have more than enough space to make it properly?


Hard

00:33:214 (1,3) - Looks a bit meh that it's almost touching. ;_;
00:36:300 (2,3,4,5) - So after (2) you decide to make a slight curve down but place (5) more to the right? Destroys flow and looks odd.
01:00:814 (1,2,3,4,5) - First a questional transition and then suddenly a stack? Replace (2) and (3) with a slider.
01:30:128 (3) - How should the player know that this slider has two reverses instead of one like before?
01:36:642 (3) - Make this slider a bit better looking maybe?
01:43:157 (1,2) - Why do you use especially here an emphasizing but not at the other similiar pattern before even though they have the same sound?


Weeaboo

00:35:271 (5,6,7) - Feels bit strange with that high spacing. 00:32:185 (3,4,5) feels fine because of the unique vocal here, but I don't really see a reason for this triplet to be that spaced.
00:58:585 (3,4,5,6,7) - 00:59:957 (3,4,5,6,7) - Maybe increase the spacing very slightly because of the music getting louder?
01:12:642 (5,1) - Blanket would look cleaner.
01:31:500 (3,4,5,6,7) - 01:35:614 (3,4,5,6,7) - What's the system behind placing these streams / bursts / whatever they are called that weird even though they have the same sound? At least I couldn't figure a different sound when listening with 25% speed.
01:55:500 (2,1) - Blanket it?
01:56:871 (1,3,4) - Custom stacks looks odd, would recommend placing it somewhere else.
02:25:671 (1,2) - Not the best pattern you can take here. (2) should definitely be more visible, maybe put it slightly to the left of (1)?
02:33:557 (2) - NC would be cool because this doesn't have anything similar with (1) in this case and also the break.

Didn't put too much attention to the last diff because I'm tired already, 2.37am OP.


But honestly here I ask myself if Baraatje even bothered to take a look here because this set doesn't look ready for ranking at all.
Kotori-Chan
one of my fav s3rl songs,always getting in such a happy mood when listening to this one <3

take a star :3 ♥♥♥
JPKunKai-Finale
Best beatmap :)
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