NattyC wrote:

you may be able to do that but that isn't the purpous. that would be like playing mania with one hand. Also as I have already explained the gameplay in this gamemode is totally different. Just do this one thing and you will understand. I want to you ask any Taiko player why they play Taiko and not mania. It is likely that they play not because you use the same key layout its because of the different visual ques and change in play style. Please think logically about it before asking stupid questions or saying stupid things.

Eraser wrote:

But I'm gaining an advantage here if I can play it with all my 4 fingers on 2F lmao. If I can play it like in mania, then I can be a pro right away. There's no need to add another game mode if it plays the same. Don't use taiko as your defense. Taiko has only one lane, is horizontal, and only two mandatory keys. Not to mention it was added before mania even exist here and I wasn't there to boycott about it. The only real difference this new mode has is the reading.

Also, insulting people probably isn't the best way to get them to agree with you.

c418vgytre wrote:

Tbh it would play the exact same as mania just with a different way of reading. Thats like taking taiko but instead of the taiko notes coming from the right they come from the left and right or something. Its not innovative enough to warrant its own mode. Work a bit more though im sure there is potential.

Endaris wrote:

Calm down pal or this is simply going to get locked.
On first glance I can't see how the mode is different from mania either so it would be good if you worked on your OP so that it becomes clear how that mode is NOT mania.

UnNVus wrote:

How do you think this idea is better than a currently existing game mode? Pitch it to me.

_Meep_ wrote:

This just feels like standard without any movement and all you have to do is click
Even if this does come true,it won't be as simple to even do mapping for it
So far as I see it, there is practically no way of telling which circle is played to what sound in any song
I rather you rethink this whole thing again because you simply thought of an idea and just posted it here,however did not consider about the other aspects that make this game osu! unqiue compared to other games. You can 'create' your own beatmaps in osu and I assume you have played at least one or two, however you haven't explored the mapping scene and from my perspective its pretty much impossible to do anything sensible with this gamemodr

NattyC wrote:

_Meep_ wrote:

This just feels like standard without any movement and all you have to do is click
Even if this does come true,it won't be as simple to even do mapping for it
So far as I see it, there is practically no way of telling which circle is played to what sound in any song
I rather you rethink this whole thing again because you simply thought of an idea and just posted it here,however did not consider about the other aspects that make this game osu! unqiue compared to other games. You can 'create' your own beatmaps in osu and I assume you have played at least one or two, however you haven't explored the mapping scene and from my perspective its pretty much impossible to do anything sensible with this gamemodr

I'm sorry but your comment was just stupid. very little of what you said is at all valid. Your trying to say that a games design student doesn't understand what games a game unique. Also you said that this would be hard to map, and you are wrong. it would be very easy to map in fact more people will map in this gamemode because of the appeal to both osu! and Mania players also there would be one less thing to worry about in mapping for this gamemode as the placement of notes is not as important because you can only place notes in specific locations meaning that people who are new to mapping can also make good maps and they won't be judged on positioning of each note. If you where just open to new ideas I think you could enjoy this gamemode.

Sandy Hoey wrote:

Is it intended that you wouldn't be able to map the same button twice in a row? As in, it would be impossible to have the player click the same key because each key only corresponds to one position and you can't have notes in quick succession because you wouldn't be able to see the note behind in time.

Sandy Hoey wrote:

Is it intended that you wouldn't be able to map the same button twice in a row? As in, it would be impossible to have the player click the same key because each key only corresponds to one position and you can't have notes in quick succession because you wouldn't be able to see the note behind in time.

_Meep_ wrote:

This just feels like standard without any movement and all you have to do is click
Even if this does come true,it won't be as simple to even do mapping for it
So far as I see it, there is practically no way of telling which circle is played to what sound in any song
I rather you rethink this whole thing again because you simply thought of an idea and just posted it here,however did not consider about the other aspects that make this game osu! unqiue compared to other games. You can 'create' your own beatmaps in osu and I assume you have played at least one or two, however you haven't explored the mapping scene and from my perspective its pretty much impossible to do anything sensible with this gamemodr


If you don't get what I'm saying, It's this : How is this gamemodr unique on it's own? All I can visualize about this game is you looking at a screen and tap to approach circles coming in. Taiko and Mania has it's own SV manipulation, CTB has its hyperdashes, Standard has it's jumps,sliders,etc.
What dors this gamemodr have in store in the first place? If there's just going to be approach circles being clicked, no movement whatsoever on anything,how is this going to be interesting?
Also, this doesn't appeal to mania players as much as standard players
You're using standard elements and just saying 'let's just stop the circles and give you another 6 mote buttons to press!' Mania players read the columns where notes fall, this is entirely different from mania aside from the fact that you use more than 4 keys.
Having less to worry about in mapping is a bigger concern than having more worries, because in this game,quality is kept at its highest,with BN(Beatmap Nominators) qualifying maps one by one,check by check,they do it really,really thoroughly. With more to worry about,you can be rest assured no beatmaps with wrong metadeta, artist, bpm, etc would appear in the ranked section. You said they 'can't be judged by the positioning of each note' then whats the point of mapping? You place notes that have meaning to make your map likeable and enjoyed by the community. Just because you're a game designer student doesn't mean you can map, neither does it mean you understand the whole mapping process as well as mappers who have been in the scene for ages.
Your reply is really short-sighted tbh.


That's what I'm worried about, there's no indication at all on how notes can be displayed to the players visually so that they can understand it very well. It would just be a million approach circles coming in from all sides left and right and no one would know which to press (except for those EZ mod gods lul)

NattyC wrote:

everything you have said is just wrong. this gamemode will be mapped differently to osu! meaning that the components for making a map good will be different. your trying to use the same rules to judge this gamemode even though it isn't the same. new ranking rules would have to be make to rank maps of this gamemode and if you don't understand that then I don't think your smart enough to even be talking about this as you clearly don't at all understand the concept of a different idea. you have contradicted yourself and others because you have said that this is totally different to mania because the notes do not fall which is a point that I have been making all this time and now your saying the same thing as me. stop with the stupid arguments that make no sense and maybe try doing something useful like giving me some good feedback or just go away because your just complaining about nothing for stupid reasons. Also if you looked at the animations you would know how the notes would be displayed to the player. It is also very easy for the player to read. Also you said that it would just be circles appearing from all locations but that is just the same for osu!. stop trying to argue with me as you clearly don't know what your talking about when it comes to game design. I try to be understanding but if your going to be this stupid then just go away. I want to talk to smart people. If you want to be smart and talk to be privately then I can explain why your wrong. add me on discord NattyC#6487

NattyC wrote:

The reason why this would play differently and requires a different play style and skills is because I made it so that it would be like playing Osu! but without any tablet or mouse input.

UnNVus wrote:

NattyC wrote:

everything you have said is just wrong. this gamemode will be mapped differently to osu! meaning that the components for making a map good will be different. your trying to use the same rules to judge this gamemode even though it isn't the same. new ranking rules would have to be make to rank maps of this gamemode and if you don't understand that then I don't think your smart enough to even be talking about this as you clearly don't at all understand the concept of a different idea. you have contradicted yourself and others because you have said that this is totally different to mania because the notes do not fall which is a point that I have been making all this time and now your saying the same thing as me. stop with the stupid arguments that make no sense and maybe try doing something useful like giving me some good feedback or just go away because your just complaining about nothing for stupid reasons. Also if you looked at the animations you would know how the notes would be displayed to the player. It is also very easy for the player to read. Also you said that it would just be circles appearing from all locations but that is just the same for osu!. stop trying to argue with me as you clearly don't know what your talking about when it comes to game design. I try to be understanding but if your going to be this stupid then just go away. I want to talk to smart people. If you want to be smart and talk to be privately then I can explain why your wrong. add me on discord NattyC#6487

He is giving you good feedback. The problem with your mode is that there isn't anything (as far as I can tell) interesting about it. There's nothing of substance, nothing that makes it special. There's no meat. I'm not trying to berate your idea, however I think even your description of it lacks depth.

So what I understand about your game mode is this: People have certain slots that they can place notes. These notes correspond to specific keys on the keyboard and players have to make an input every time a circle is at its apex. And? What makes this game mode special? Why should a player want to play this instead of any other game mode? That's the question I was trying to get you to answer with my previous comment. Why would this mode be more special, more interesting, or an improvement on any of the existing modes?

You say it would be different because:

NattyC wrote:

The reason why this would play differently and requires a different play style and skills is because I made it so that it would be like playing Osu! but without any tablet or mouse input.

But that's just mania, taiko, and catch the beat.

You say you want it separate from mania by diversifying the rows of keys that this is played on, however you could just rebind the keys to be on different rows for mania. Or you could play Starcraft to music or something like that if you want different key inputs to link to different commands.

You say your mode will be easier to map, but that might actually end up being a bad thing. Simplifying things so much will result in fast stagnation. Nobody will want to map for your mode over extended periods of time because there's nothing special about it. How do you improve upon something with only a single facet of difficulty? Your mode might be fun to try out for half an hour, maybe an hour, but it won't keep players dedicated to it. To do that, ther needs to be depth. Standard, mania, taiko, and catch all have depth to them in vastly different way, however your mode is just "click the circles to the beat" with no strings attached.

Again, I mean no disrespect here, so if you have answers to all of this please explain to me and everyone else who seems to be in the same position as I am. I have no problem being totally wrong about all of this as long as you offer me a sound reason why this mode not having anything to call it's own is better than it having a unique element.

tl;dr - I don't see how adding this mode will benefit anyone in comparison to the amount of work it would be to make.

Sandy Hoey wrote:

The fact that it isn't just one person that can't understand you means...
:babyrage:

Best of luck getting any votes

NattyC wrote:

Sandy Hoey wrote:

The fact that it isn't just one person that can't understand you means...
:babyrage:

Best of luck getting any votes

Proof that the Osu! community is full of people with an IQ of 70. Also why not tell your friends how bad this gamemode is so they can come an join the crew or IQ70's. If they turn out to be logical people then I may ask them to reconsider there friendship.

_Meep_ wrote:

NattyC wrote:

Proof that the Osu! community is full of people with an IQ of 70. Also why not tell your friends how bad this gamemode is so they can come an join the crew or IQ70's. If they turn out to be logical people then I may ask them to reconsider there friendship.

Probably it's because he just submitted a map 15 days ago and is like 'oh shit mapping is so easy!!' and then thought this would be a great idea...
He hasnt even tried or went through the whole process of ranking a song and wants to be mr smartass LOL

Had fun being nice to you lil noob
Guess this game designer really has an IQ below 70 lol

you see this game mode requires you to use not only one row of keys on your keyboard but two rows.

first of all I don't insult people I call out peoples stupidity. If you aint stupid then I don't call you out.

If people are going to be this ignorant and stupid I'll just go and talk to Peppy himself.

first of all you can only map the keys for the top layer of circles and the bottom layer is mapped automatically depending on where you map the top key.

Proof that the Osu! community is full of people with an IQ of 70. Also why not tell your friends how bad this gamemode is so they can come an join the crew or IQ70's. If they turn out to be logical people then I may ask them to reconsider there friendship.

[Taiga] wrote:

NOBODY likes people like you in this subforum

_Toxi wrote:

Now for the criticism.
This could almost be done by re-skinning Mania and making the notes not move. not only that, but the 2-row of keys is an amazing way to ruin your wrist. There are two other game modes that don't have any jumps, Mania and Taiko, so instead of making a mix between them because you don't like standard jumps, practice and get better like everybody else that can make jumps. If you want want to do that, play another game-mode.

Caradine wrote:

facking normis

Chaos wrote:

First, bashing anybody who has given you undesirable feedback is not a way to garner support for your suggestion. They are legitimate concerns and questions and should be addressed as such.

Second, this proposed mode does not add any notable difference in gameplay compared to the parts of mania and standard you have cobbled together. I don't see how this is supposed to be different enough to warrant discussion about adding such a mode into the game.

While I would personally dismiss this simply as an unnecessary request, I will hesitantly keep this thread open for now with the hope that people will behave appropriately. I will not hesitate to lock it if the insults and such continue.

1. Allow rotation or movement of circle positions
2. Spinners similar to all game modes: hit keys in sequence, minimum required, bonus before spinner end
3. Show (Silver)S/SS comboburst, guidelines same as osu!standard
4. TAG Maps = Many circles going around

johnmedina999 wrote:

This is mania.
No way around it.

DJ Enetro wrote:

Do you have evidence?

johnmedina999 wrote:

I can preview this "new" game mode by doing this:

johnmedina999 wrote:

DJ Enetro wrote:

Do you have evidence?

I can preview this "new" game mode by doing this:

UnNVus wrote:

So then what would you do to make it not a mania clone?

DJ Enetro wrote:

Nah, you wouldn't get the same feel as the idea. Mania is top down but this is center put

DJ Enetro wrote:

Did you not read? I said nothing about this being a ripoff of osu!mania.
You scrub, read between the lines

DJ Enetro wrote:

Mania is top down but this is center put

DJ Enetro wrote:

"Mania is top down, this is a slight variation of mania"

DJ Enetro wrote:

Nonetheless, this idea has potential

DJ Enetro wrote:

Well, i'll start making the ideas and help.

first of all, osu!taiko and osu!mania targets are static. You press the keys once the dons/notes reach the drum/bottom row. That doesn't move in osu!taiko or osu!mania. osu!standard has circles, sliders, and spinners. that's it.

So he could have the notes/holders/spinners come from different directions and the targets can move during the song. Do you get this?

EDIT: also, on osu!diva, the targets change, moving across the screen. in this gamemode there is one location that moves per button.

and yes the keybinds can be osu!mania style.

EDIT 2: If you really doubt it, I'll make you see the good side. Don't hate on _Mee, P_lease.

kai99 wrote:

I dunno, as john said, it sounds like modified jubeat..

Blitzfrog wrote:

Who even likes mania

Osu for the win