Rhodanthe* - Happy*Pretty*Clover · forum

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-04-02T22:27:24+00:00

Updated Kami's Insane!
(ayaya is best)

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-04-15T04:29:53+00:00

Fixed some random stuff for flow and whatnot. Changed the offset so you should take a look at that, before was too late i think.

Also changed sampleset to S:1 because I will hitsound it sometime soon

Karen besto

update

osu file format v14

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Title:Happy*Pretty*Clover
TitleUnicode:Happy★Pretty★Clover
Artist:Rhodanthe*
ArtistUnicode:Rhodanthe*
Creator:vekt0r
Version:Kami's Insane
Source:きんいろモザイク Pretty Days
Tags:kin-iro kiniro mosaic kinmoza kinmosa ova opening short ver tanaka manami alice cartelet nishi asuka oomiya shinobu taneda risa komichi aya uchimiya yumi inokuma youko touyama nao kujou karen yuiko meis clauson
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vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-04-15T05:22:29+00:00

Updated Kami's insane again! (gotta increase that post count lul)

also i'm not trying to rush anyone but if you're one of the people who agreed to mod this and you see this post please mod asap because this thread is sad and lonely

like literally the last mod was 12 days ago i'm pretty sure 2kds is already in effect xd

Cloudchaser

2,327 posts

Joined May 2012

Cloudchaser 2017-04-15T17:30:10+00:00

M4M from my queue!

General

You should check aimod! http://i.imgur.com/B9RqBcN.jpg

Five Leaf Clover

00:04:960 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - The vocal is perfectly 1/2 instead of the 1/4 pattern you're using. So, you should consider that as overmapping.
00:12:377 (3,4) - Flow is really odd here, it doesn't feel natural while playing. My idea is moving (3)&(4) 's tail like this way http://i.imgur.com/hSLQ8QZ.jpg . If you see, (3) has better curve and transition to (4), it's more readable for players.
00:43:036 - Here start the downbeat so remove NC and delete this NC from 00:43:365 - .
00:51:443 (5,1) - Just why this huge and antiflow widescreen jump ;_;
00:55:399 (2) - Add NC because of the SV change, it makes the slider more readable.
00:59:355 (2) - curve this a little bit for better transition to the next pattern.
01:23:092 (1) - this is extremely high jump and (1)'s head doesn't help at all. My suggestion in this case is http://i.imgur.com/oiksKlc.png instead of this, if you want to compare: http://i.imgur.com/lCpI722.png

My opinion: This difficult has potential in many ways, the rhythm is fine and the pattern idea is well performed. The only thing I consider important to fix is the flow from your sliders and circles. Well, It was quite obvious since most of my mod pointed the same. For a map (at least in my point of view) this is essential for playability and it helps to the player to read better the next patterns. Of course, this is way too optional ('cuz there exist antiflow style) but I think your map would play much better if you polish the entire map. If you want to know more about this, you can check some tutorials and guide made by Pishifat: osu!mapping: flow + circles & osu!mapping: flow + sliders (watch flow+circles first before this one).

Kami's Insane

00:38:569 (3,4) - I don't think this stack plays good, since it's just 1/2 and you barely use this kind of patters, I don't feel like guessing the rhythm >< example: this is good usage 00:48:295 (1,2,3) -
01:24:064 (1) - Improve this slider curve to make a beautiful blanket with 01:23:734 (4) - as you did at 01:34:613 (1,2) -

My opinion: Looks pretty much well made!

Advanced

Gonna skip modding this difficult because I don't really understand Advanced diffs tier. Never mapped or modded for a reason & I don't really like them :c... I'm more used to E/N/H/I/EX

This is all for now! If there's something that you don't understand ('cuz my writting at english isn't the very best ), please PM me forum. Feedback is always gold.

Call me when you have hitsounds and low difficults done~

Goodluck!!!

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-04-15T19:24:06+00:00

Cloudchaser wrote:
Kami's Insane
00:38:569 (3,4) - I don't think this stack plays good, since it's just 1/2 and you barely use this kind of patters, I don't feel like guessing the rhythm >< example: this is good usage 00:48:295 (1,2,3) - previous mod said same thing, but other people said it was fine :thinking: if other mods say its bad i will change, but for right now, i think there are justifications (although there could be better ways to do it)
01:24:064 (1) - Improve this slider curve to make a beautiful blanket with 01:23:734 (4) - as you did at 01:34:613 (1,2) -

My opinion: Looks pretty much well made! hey thanks!

update

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Source:きんいろモザイク Pretty Days
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186,222,98240,2,0,L|185:74,1,114.749996498108,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
138,31,98570,6,8,P|84:40|48:67,2,85,12|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
185,107,99064,2,0,P|235:121|324:30,1,187.000005706787,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
234,33,99558,1,8,0:0:0:0:
101,112,99723,6,0,B|99:182|99:182|108:234|108:234|95:263|95:263|96:308,1,187.000005706787,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
157,377,100218,1,8,0:0:0:0:
221,257,100383,2,0,B|366:257|366:257|320:295,1,187.000005706787,12|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
262,338,100877,1,8,0:0:0:0:
184,164,101042,1,2,0:0:0:0:
386,185,101207,6,0,P|350:48|186:171,1,416.499987289429,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
289,136,102526,5,2,0:0:0:0:

@vekt0r use this code and not the one i sent via pm, although plz do add the hitsounds i sent

vekt0r

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vekt0r 2017-04-15T23:43:02+00:00

Cloudchaser wrote:
M4M from my queue!

General
You should check aimod! http://i.imgur.com/B9RqBcN.jpg
Five Leaf Clover
00:04:960 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - The vocal is perfectly 1/2 instead of the 1/4 pattern you're using. So, you should consider that as overmapping. you had an old version; that was a temporary edit i tried out earlier, luckily i had backup code for when i realized it was shit
00:12:377 (3,4) - Flow is really odd here, it doesn't feel natural while playing. My idea is moving (3)&(4) 's tail like this way http://i.imgur.com/hSLQ8QZ.jpg . If you see, (3) has better curve and transition to (4), it's more readable for players. changed (3) but not that drastically; besides readability as you said, since there's no actual difference in flow because how kicksliders and buzz sliders are played, this seems pointless to me idk
00:43:036 - Here start the downbeat so remove NC and delete this NC from 00:43:365 - . while i agree that that deserves an NC for emphasis, there's no way to do that because the NC's here are for readability of 1/1 gaps
00:51:443 (5,1) - Just why this huge and antiflow widescreen jump ;_; rip, fixed by rotating slider
00:55:399 (2) - Add NC because of the SV change, it makes the slider more readable. oh nice i also like how the three 1-combo sliders make the vocal phrase
00:59:355 (2) - curve this a little bit for better transition to the next pattern. well don't want to curve but changed the angle so it should be fine now
01:23:092 (1) - this is extremely high jump and (1)'s head doesn't help at all. My suggestion in this case is http://i.imgur.com/oiksKlc.png instead of this, if you want to compare: http://i.imgur.com/lCpI722.png the 5 is a reverse so you're leaving from the head but i get your point lol, should be fixed [insert obligatory "hell has vigne" comment]

My opinion: This difficult has potential in many ways, the rhythm is fine and the pattern idea is well performed. The only thing I consider important to fix is the flow from your sliders and circles. Well, It was quite obvious since most of my mod pointed the same. For a map (at least in my point of view) this is essential for playability and it helps to the player to read better the next patterns. Of course, this is way too optional ('cuz there exist antiflow style) but I think your map would play much better if you polish the entire map. If you want to know more about this, you can check some tutorials and guide made by Pishifat: osu!mapping: flow + circles & osu!mapping: flow + sliders (watch flow+circles first before this one).

already watched both, they're really helpful; i agree that it's essential, but pishi also said that repetition can build a good structure too, and i tried to use as many back-and-forth movements as possible, even when the jumps came under the category of circular flow.
for sliders completely agree tho, that should be fixed
This is all for now! If there's something that you don't understand ('cuz my writting at english isn't the very best ), please PM me forum. Feedback is always gold.

Call me when you have hitsounds and low difficults done~

Goodluck!!!

Thanks for the mod! I probably will ask you to mod another diff later lol

@Kami added hitsounds and updated (00:54:724 (2) - sounds like an alarm clock holy)
also resnapped the bookmarks if you don't mind, unsnapped bookmarks annoy me lol

Xayler

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Xayler 2017-04-21T21:48:51+00:00

The M4M from my queue.

General

Both BG and mp3 are pretty low quality, you can increase the BG's resolution and get a 192 kbit/s mp3 for better audio, you'll need new offset after it though.

AdvancedYou use pretty random spacing everywhere imo, why not just use a constant one and make some jumps/new patterns here and there? Imo every object has a new spacing as I watched quickly through the map.00:08:900 (1,2,1) - This one doesn't have any kind of pattern imo and the overlaps seem also kinda not needed, the spacing between 00:09:558 (2,1) - these sliders is also like a 1 pixel, you should even it out a bit between these 3 sliders.00:15:988 (3,4,5,1) - I feel that this straight into the (1) doesn't play that well as it should, maybe make the (5) also curved to improve the playability.00:39:065 (4,1) - This angle is really high imo, you should move the last anchor to the right: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/788675401:17:307 (1) - This slider and the break after the slider seems really random, why just not map it like anywhere else? I get it if you use it 01:21:922 (2) - here, but the previous 2 ones aren't really needed since the song isn't that calm yet to skip so many beats.01:35:108 (2,2) - Now this overlap is pretty bad one, idk how to help at here though.

Kami's Insane00:59:504 (2,3,4,5,6) - The (6) is pretty much out of pattern here, make the spacings equal.01:00:328 (1,4) - This overlap seems a pretty random one.01:04:119 (1,4) - ^01:11:207 (2) - Imo CTRL+G plays better for this slider.01:26:372 (1,1) - The blanket is a bit off.

Five Leaf Clover00:14:669 (3) - This slider doesn't really need to end on blue tick as there's a beat on white tick, the other sliders are fine like they are there (there's many of them).00:23:405 (1,2) - Needs a bit better blanketing here.00:37:911 (1,2,4) - Equal the spacing between these a bit.00:49:779 (1,2,3,4,5) - This zigzag feels pretty weird to play because there's not really any kind of a felling to jump from (3) to (4) that quickly, the (4) to (5) is making it even worse, basically confusion.00:54:394 (1) - CTRL+G works a bit better for this slider as then the movement is a bit better from the kickslider.00:54:724 (1) - No 1/8 slider here like in other diffs?01:02:471 (4,5) - These imo are pretty bad to play as you tend to make that break always after the vocal and that's the only place where you don't do it which just makes confusion.01:19:284 (3,1) - They are too close to each other imo, increase the spacing between them a bit.01:29:834 (3,5) - Blanket is off a bit.

Alright, this should be everything, good luck with the map.

vekt0r

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vekt0r 2017-04-22T05:28:23+00:00

Xayler wrote:
The M4M from my queue.

General
Both BG and mp3 are pretty low quality, you can increase the BG's resolution and get a 192 kbit/s mp3 for better audio, you'll need new offset after it though. lol i remember aimod telling me once that my bg needed to be 1366x768 but i guess not
also i have a lossless audio file what am i doing with this 128kbps garbage lol

AdvancedYou use pretty random spacing everywhere imo, why not just use a constant one and make some jumps/new patterns here and there? Imo every object has a new spacing as I watched quickly through the map. that's not even close to true lol, but i tried to make jumps mostly on downbeats00:08:900 (1,2,1) - This one doesn't have any kind of pattern imo and the overlaps seem also kinda not needed, the spacing between 00:09:558 (2,1) - these sliders is also like a 1 pixel, you should even it out a bit between these 3 sliders. only overlap is 00:07:581 (1,2) -; i would get rid of it if i could, but right now i don't see a way while keeping the circular motion in these sliders (besides there's 2.5 beats in between) fixed the second thing tho00:15:988 (3,4,5,1) - I feel that this straight into the (1) doesn't play that well as it should, maybe make the (5) also curved to improve the playability. fixed, this works pretty well00:39:065 (4,1) - This angle is really high imo, you should move the last anchor to the right: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7886754 oh caught that earlier because i realized it was different from my other sliders01:17:307 (1) - This slider and the break after the slider seems really random, why just not map it like anywhere else? I get it if you use it 01:21:922 (2) - here, but the previous 2 ones aren't really needed since the song isn't that calm yet to skip so many beats. it's the same principle for all three: i'm only mapping to the vocals here because that's the focus of this calm section (also if anything the intensity is lowest at the beginning of the section and gradually rises)01:35:108 (2,2) - Now this overlap is pretty bad one, idk how to help at here though.idk what happened but those aren't overlapped anymore so i guess that's good

Five Leaf Clover00:14:669 (3) - This slider doesn't really need to end on blue tick as there's a beat on white tick, the other sliders are fine like they are there (there's many of them). yes i realize, but note that the trumpet overpowers anything else in the section with the exception of two drumbeats later (plus this would destroy the pattern)00:23:405 (1,2) - Needs a bit better blanketing here. was actually supposed to be closer to the head of the slider, not a blanket lol00:37:911 (1,2,4) - Equal the spacing between these a bit. sure, fixed00:49:779 (1,2,3,4,5) - This zigzag feels pretty weird to play because there's not really any kind of a felling to jump from (3) to (4) that quickly, the (4) to (5) is making it even worse, basically confusion. sorry, i don't know what you mean by that; however these are perfectly readable as 1/2 jumps, if that's what you meant00:54:394 (1) - CTRL+G works a bit better for this slider as then the movement is a bit better from the kickslider. yea that is bad but ctrl-g would make it worse; did something different00:54:724 (1) - No 1/8 slider here like in other diffs? it's only one other diff lol, also reason for not doing that is that i want to focus on the 3-note vocal phrase, not the individual hold sound01:02:471 (4,5) - These imo are pretty bad to play as you tend to make that break always after the vocal and that's the only place where you don't do it which just makes confusion. not sure if this is what you meant or not, but added a note after the 5 for the trumpet sound; also in the kiai i only use 1/1 gaps when they are supported by a gap in the instruments01:19:284 (3,1) - They are too close to each other imo, increase the spacing between them a bit. sure why not01:29:834 (3,5) - Blanket is off a bit. all 4 occurrences were copy-pasted so i had to fix all of them hooray

Alright, this should be everything, good luck with the map.

Thanks for the mod!

Xayler

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Xayler 2017-04-23T01:29:02+00:00

Do you want a mod for Normal? As I see that you've uploaded it.

vekt0r

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Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-04-23T03:02:28+00:00

Sure, I would love that, thanks!

edit: okay in any case that was the offset for the old audio, and it should work if you delete and redownload

Last edited by vekt0r 2017-04-26T04:33:17+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Xayler

628 posts

Joined November 2013

Xayler 2017-04-23T16:05:05+00:00

Your offset is unchanged as I see, kinda impossible to mod. I can recommend 992 or 994.

_handholding

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Joined April 2014

_handholding 2017-05-01T23:39:17+00:00

Normal

There is very little feedback in the beginning. Try increasing the volume of the first timing point
00:04:842 (1,2) - The finish hitsounds feel... overbearing. The default whistle would suit much better imho. http://puu.sh/vAxLw/f9ea44f5be.png
00:06:820 (3) - Adding a whistle here would give much needed feedback since it's quite far away from other objects on the timeline
00:04:842 (1) - ending this on the red tick feels really, really forced. A 3/2 slider follows the vocals and feels more natural rhythm wise http://puu.sh/vAxRq/be66236feb.jpg
00:21:490 (3) - Last rhythm suggestion :p I feel it would be much more intuitive for the player to just stick to following the trumpet. http://puu.sh/vAxZY/c75f4cc93e.jpg Other sounds such as 00:22:644 aren't really needed
00:41:765 (1) - because you are following the vocals with 00:42:918 (2,3,4) it would feel much more appropiate to end the slider on the vocal sound at 00:42:589 . Also when you end it on 00:42:754 you are getting that forced feeling I was talking about earlier. Just incase you were going to reject by saying you were following the trumpet sounds with 00:42:918 (2,3,4) what I say still applies as it feels more intuitive to follow on from a particular rhythm you were following earlier
00:53:633 (5,6) - DS is noticeably bigger here which does look a bit weird visually :v
01:17:204 (2,3) - The 3/2 can feel a bit awkward, you can try rhythms such as these to get rid of it http://puu.sh/vAynL/e11931fc90.jpg Also because 01:17:204 and 01:17:534 are both the same intensity it makes sense to have these both as active beats (clickable)
01:19:842 (2,3) and 01:21:820 (5) - ^
01:25:281 (1,2,3) - I recommend moving these a bit more closer to the tailside and away from the body https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7958736 From my experience it tends to throw beginners off

Advanced

00:05:336 (4,2) - 1/1 reverse sliders feel like a better fit if you really want to follow the vocals
00:08:798 (1,2) - I feel like ending these on the whit ticks would be a better representation because it's relatively calm for this part of the song and it feels more ideal to put less strain on the player snapping between objects
00:10:117 (1) - not sure if you will agree to this lol, but if you end this on 00:11:105 it will increase the timing window and make it more comfortable for players to hit 00:11:435 (1,2,3)
00:53:633 (1,2,3) - there is no real need to lower the DS for these notes, at least by this much. 1.3x DS fits much nicer to me, not only in the way it looks but the low DS causes your cursor movement to scrunch which wouldn't be fitting for this pattern (imo). If you did this to avoid it being overly difficult for players then don't worry, it's really not that much harder compared to the diff overall
00:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^
01:04:842 (1) - NC is a bit unnecessary
01:07:479 (2,3) - These map similar vocal sounds so having these as the same objects makes more sense and flows a lot better rhythmically, so I suggest making these both circles or 1/2 sliders (i prefer sliders :p). The vocals sounds here are pretty similar to 01:08:633 (2,3) after alll
01:18:028 - An addition of a circle would play well here, not only is there a drum beat here but it would flow better rhythmically as 3/2 gaps can prove a bit awkward unless they are covered by dominant sounds (which isn't the case here)
01:20:666 - ^
01:22:644 - ^
01:26:600 (1) - The blue tick is a mistake right? :p
01:40:776 (2,1) - spacing feels a bit too much, it's the last object of the map and I guess you want to "go out with a bang" kind of way but reducing the spacing would still feel a bit better

Gaia

00:59:732 (6) - Ctrl + g? I get that it may ruin the flow from (5) a bit but when you have low spacing into a stack it eliminates all emphasis
01:41:105 (1) - having this unstacked and spacing this out a bit plays cooler to me (from a player's perspective) :p . It's very different to the sound at 01:40:776 (8) so it doesn't feel to right to me

Clover

00:04:182 (1,1,2) - The SV just feels too fast. You started off 0.6 which was cool but then you increased it when the song doesn't change at all (vocals don't count)
00:11:435 (1,2,3) - I'd say this would be kickslider abuse, I can't see any justification in mapping these sounds as kicksliders at all. Circles would fit more better
00:18:028 (1) - Using a straight slider like you did for (5) would create better structure and look better asethetically https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7976715
00:45:556 (2,1,1) - How bout using a spacing pattern such as this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7976736 For similar reasons to the spacing used at 00:45:061 (2,1) it just feels better, it would also make sense to have them structured similarly too but it's mostly for the feel the spacings and cursor movement creates.
00:48:523 (1,1) - ^
00:53:633 (1,2,3) - same as 00:11:435 (1,2,3) -
00:55:611 (2) - the spacing here is really high O.o
01:06:160 (2) - ^
01:14:072 (5,6) - The stack breaks down and halts the cursor movement created by the jumps. It feels a bit forced
01:32:864 (2) - NC isn't needed

I think It's also worth mentioning that the intro for normal and advanced uses a high object density for the intro than the hard diff
[]GL!

vekt0r

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vekt0r 2017-05-02T02:32:28+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Normal
There is very little feedback in the beginning. Try increasing the volume of the first timing point
00:04:842 (1,2) - The finish hitsounds feel... overbearing. The default whistle would suit much better imho. http://puu.sh/vAxLw/f9ea44f5be.png did both, changed volume to 30% not 35 though
00:06:820 (3) - Adding a whistle here would give much needed feedback since it's quite far away from other objects on the timeline true
00:04:842 (1) - ending this on the red tick feels really, really forced. A 3/2 slider follows the vocals and feels more natural rhythm wise http://puu.sh/vAxRq/be66236feb.jpg yeah wasn't sure if that was allowed since there's technically nothing on the end
00:21:490 (3) - Last rhythm suggestion :p I feel it would be much more intuitive for the player to just stick to following the trumpet. http://puu.sh/vAxZY/c75f4cc93e.jpg Other sounds such as 00:22:644 aren't really needed i guess since it's a simplistic normal
00:41:765 (1) - because you are following the vocals with 00:42:918 (2,3,4) it would feel much more appropiate to end the slider on the vocal sound at 00:42:589 . Also when you end it on 00:42:754 you are getting that forced feeling I was talking about earlier. Just incase you were going to reject by saying you were following the trumpet sounds with 00:42:918 (2,3,4) what I say still applies as it feels more intuitive to follow on from a particular rhythm you were following earlier i also buffered the held trumpets in the intro with 1 beat, so idk why i did that here
00:53:633 (5,6) - DS is noticeably bigger here which does look a bit weird visually :v unintentional
01:17:204 (2,3) - The 3/2 can feel a bit awkward, you can try rhythms such as these to get rid of it http://puu.sh/vAynL/e11931fc90.jpg Also because 01:17:204 and 01:17:534 are both the same intensity it makes sense to have these both as active beats (clickable) well i think this is fine because the 3 is a pickup note, so it's easy to gather when to click it (same as 00:32:369 (3,4) -), also i don't like that rhythm because the last of the 3 vocals fades quickly, and i want the 3 to be clickable
01:19:842 (2,3) and 01:21:820 (5) - ^ only concerning one to me is the last one because not a pickup note, but i think by this time the player will have learned; i might consider changing later though
01:25:281 (1,2,3) - I recommend moving these a bit more closer to the tailside and away from the body https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7958736 From my experience it tends to throw beginners off idk i thought that might help indicate the 3/2 rhythm there, but changed to something that imo is just as good

Advanced
00:05:336 (4,2) - 1/1 reverse sliders feel like a better fit if you really want to follow the vocals someone said this before and looking at it now this is actually a good idea
00:08:798 (1,2) - I feel like ending these on the whit ticks would be a better representation because it's relatively calm for this part of the song and it feels more ideal to put less strain on the player snapping between objects yeah this is fine too and it also helped fix some configuration issues
00:10:117 (1) - not sure if you will agree to this lol, but if you end this on 00:11:105 it will increase the timing window and make it more comfortable for players to hit 00:11:435 (1,2,3) well the last point implies this for consistency lol
00:53:633 (1,2,3) - there is no real need to lower the DS for these notes, at least by this much. 1.3x DS fits much nicer to me, not only in the way it looks but the low DS causes your cursor movement to scrunch which wouldn't be fitting for this pattern (imo). If you did this to avoid it being overly difficult for players then don't worry, it's really not that much harder compared to the diff overall oh these were actually meant to be spaced but then i made everything smaller and forgot to fix this
00:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:04:842 (1) - NC is a bit unnecessary
idk the one note combo isn't really a problem is it
01:07:479 (2,3) - These map similar vocal sounds so having these as the same objects makes more sense and flows a lot better rhythmically, so I suggest making these both circles or 1/2 sliders (i prefer sliders :p). The vocals sounds here are pretty similar to 01:08:633 (2,3) after alll keeping this for now since on 01:08:139 (1) - there is kind of a song change, and on the 3 before it, unlike other places the note isn't really held; i think this is a good way to emphasize the downbeat i changed something related somewhere earlier though
01:18:028 - An addition of a circle would play well here, not only is there a drum beat here but it would flow better rhythmically as 3/2 gaps can prove a bit awkward unless they are covered by dominant sounds (which isn't the case here) i think these are fine for the same reason as the normal,
and i want this section to be relaxed with low note density
01:20:666 - ^
01:22:644 - ^
01:26:600 (1) - The blue tick is a mistake right? :p yes
01:40:776 (2,1) - spacing feels a bit too much, it's the last object of the map and I guess you want to "go out with a bang" kind of way but reducing the spacing would still feel a bit better oops i forgot to move the slider after i finished making it in notepad

Clover
00:04:182 (1,1,2) - The SV just feels too fast. You started off 0.6 which was cool but then you increased it when the song doesn't change at all (vocals don't count) reduced by 10% but i don't think it's a problem (why don't vocals count xd)
00:11:435 (1,2,3) - I'd say this would be kickslider abuse, I can't see any justification in mapping these sounds as kicksliders at all. Circles would fit more better to distinguish from other sounds in the map; circles wouldn't give nearly the same effect
00:18:028 (1) - Using a straight slider like you did for (5) would create better structure and look better asethetically https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7976715 what do you not see that ive been using this slidershape the entire time lol
00:45:556 (2,1,1) - How bout using a spacing pattern such as this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7976736 For similar reasons to the spacing used at 00:45:061 (2,1) it just feels better, it would also make sense to have them structured similarly too but it's mostly for the feel the spacings and cursor movement creates. consistency point makes sense but i prefer overlapping pattern, fixed consistency
00:48:523 (1,1) - ^ ^
00:53:633 (1,2,3) - same as 00:11:435 (1,2,3) - ^
00:55:611 (2) - the spacing here is really high O.o wait that doesn't actually make sense lol
01:06:160 (2) - ^ ^
01:14:072 (5,6) - The stack breaks down and halts the cursor movement created by the jumps. It feels a bit forced okay
01:32:864 (2) - NC isn't needed actually i changed 01:32:534 (1) - to an extended slider, which i wanted to do since the beginning,
to accord with 00:54:292 (1,1,1) -; i hope this isn't a bad idea
I think It's also worth mentioning that the intro for normal and advanced uses a high object density for the intro than the hard diff
[]GL!

Thanks for the mod

lit120

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Joined August 2013

lit120 2017-05-02T14:21:35+00:00

[5 leaf clover]

00:04:842 (1,1) - this is a bad start setting a soft finish here, even though it's just a piano note only there, no such drum beats present there .-.
00:22:149 (2) - why finish? i can just hear a snare drum here
01:05:831 (1) - this slider speed is different from 01:07:149 (2) -
01:05:501 (1,1) - vs 01:06:820 (1,2) - from the loud trumpet sound + emphasize snare beat, the spacing there are rly different compared from those 2
00:04:842 (1,2,1,2) - it's kinda weird to have a 2 different slider speed, which makes no sense for me to tell about this .-.
00:16:380 (5) - fix the stack from 00:13:743 (5) -
01:09:951 (3,1,2,3,4) - i'm not sure about those current flow, but they are seem a bit awkward on its flow .-.
01:11:435 (1,2,3,4) - why's this pattern looked a bit similar with 01:10:116 (1,2,3,4) - ? u could try to map sth differently .-.
01:41:105 (1) - uh u don't rly have to make a lot of anchor points there. u could just do sth creativity with this .-.

[advanced]

01:26:600 (1) - nice wrong timeline slider end :^)
01:41:106 (1) - the same reason as i've mentioned from the highest diff

[normal]
1. well yeah. some of the parts have like a lot of notes like 00:52:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:22:973 (1,2,3,4) - i could reduce it to a slider and a 1/2 note there at least for reducing a bit of note use .-.

what a weird way to hitsound them .-.

u could improve ur own diff there, so xd

stUwUpid

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stUwUpid 2017-05-02T21:14:01+00:00

Xayler wrote:
Kami's Insane
00:59:504 (2,3,4,5,6) - The (6) is pretty much out of pattern here, make the spacings equal. 5 and 6 are copy pasted from 3 and 4, so those spacings correspond
01:00:328 (1,4) - This overlap seems a pretty random one.
01:04:119 (1,4) - ^
01:11:207 (2) - Imo CTRL+G plays better for this slider.
01:26:372 (1,1) - The blanket is a bit off.

ummmm, wrong timestamps for all of these?? I have no idea what you're talking about because the timestamps are clearly giving me the wrong notes

vekt0r

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Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-02T22:06:21+00:00

lit120 wrote:
[5 leaf clover]
00:04:842 (1,1) - this is a bad start setting a soft finish here, even though it's just a piano note only there, no such drum beats present there .-. fixed in previous mod
00:22:149 (2) - why finish? i can just hear a snare drum here made hitclap a snare and used that
01:05:831 (1) - this slider speed is different from 01:07:149 (2) -
01:05:501 (1,1) - vs 01:06:820(1,2) - from the loud trumpet sound + emphasize snare beat, the spacing there are rly different compared from those 2 both this and last point are because the loud trumpet sound only occurs on the first one, hence the nc and special slidershape too
00:04:842 (1,2,1,2) - it's kinda weird to have a 2 different slider speed, which makes no sense for me to tell about this .-. i think it's a good representation of the decreasing intensity of vocals here
00:16:380 (5) - fix the stack from 00:13:743 (5) - yep, fixed
01:09:951 (3,1,2,3,4) - i'm not sure about those current flow, but they are seem a bit awkward on its flow .-. changed it a bit to make it more back-and-forth, but i didn't see anything wrong
01:11:435 (1,2,3,4) - why's this pattern looked a bit similar with 01:10:116 (1,2,3,4) - ? u could try to map sth differently .-. but that's literally the point, plus this repetition helps emphasize the difference between 01:10:776 (1) - and 01:12:094 (1) -
01:41:105 (1) - uh u don't rly have to make a lot of anchor points there. u could just do sth creativity with this .-. idk what you mean by that but i tried making it myself and it was shit, so i just made this in notepad
[advanced]
01:26:600 (1) - nice wrong timeline slider end :^) scaling errors lol, fixed in previous mod
01:41:106 (1) - the same reason as i've mentioned from the highest diff also how does this make it any less creative

[normal]
well yeah. some of the parts have like a lot of notes like 00:52:314 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:22:973 (1,2,3,4) - i could reduce it to a slider and a 1/2 note there at least for reducing a bit of note use .-. i see what you mean, but first this is probably easier than reading the slider rhythms,
and if the SR drops lower spread would be worse
what a weird way to hitsound them .-.

u could improve ur own diff there, so xd

Thanks for the mod!

Nitrous

1,206 posts

Joined October 2015

Nitrous 2017-05-08T01:18:29+00:00

Hi from my modding queue.

[General]

An Easy difficulty would work for this kind of song.
The hitsound volume on the creator's difficulties and Gaia's Hard are too low. I barely hear feedback.
Kiai is inconsistent across difficulties. Would be great if there is a reason to why.

[Normal]

00:04:182 (5) - I wish you continued the trend like what you did with 00:01:545 (1,2,3,4)
00:13:578 (3) - 01:28:742 (3) - 01:31:380 (3) - 01:34:017 (3) - Make this a 1/2 repeat to emphasize the downbeat
00:18:028 (1,3) - Improve the blanket
00:23:303 (1,2) - and 00:33:853 (1,2,3) - Feels inconsistent rhythm-wise despite being the same
00:38:797 (6,1) - Blanket can be improved
00:49:347 (5,1) - ^
00:54:622 (7,1) - ^ a bit more nit picky on this one though
01:41:105 (1) - The curve at the left side is a bit too much making it feel weird to me.

[Advanced]

00:49:347 (5) - A 1/4 repeat could work here.
01:41:106 (1) - This curve could use some work too.
I find your choice in rhythm kinda off here considering you followed the vocals all the way.

[Gaia's Hard]

00:48:193 (4,5) - Removing the middle anchor point and making these two parallel would look better imo.
00:54:292 - Feels empty

[Five Leaf Clover]

00:05:995 (3,1) - The flow feels weird. Try emphasizing it in a different angle.
00:35:501 (2,3,4) - Whats with the SV changes when the vocals is constant?

This is all I got! The music is 👌 Now I got more to watch this summer!
Good luck in ranking!

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-08T21:36:32+00:00

-Nitrous wrote:
Hi from my modding queue.
[General]
An Easy difficulty would work for this kind of song. agree, might try but my last easy was a flaming mess of 3 beat sliders on red ticks
The hitsound volume on the creator's difficulties and Gaia's Hard are too low. I barely hear feedback. increased a bit
Kiai is inconsistent across difficulties. Would be great if there is a reason to why. it's up to the gd'ers
[Normal]
00:04:182 (5) - I wish you continued the trend like what you did with 00:01:545 (1,2,3,4) yeah this is better
00:13:578 (3) - 01:28:742 (3) - 01:31:380 (3) - 01:34:017 (3) - Make this a 1/2 repeat to emphasize the downbeat well that isn't the downbeat, but while i agree that should be emphasized, it's too hard for this section and i think it's effective to have the three notes be a group leading into the actual downbeat
00:18:028 (1,3) - Improve the blanket o k
00:23:303 (1,2) - and 00:33:853 (1,2,3) - Feels inconsistent rhythm-wise despite being the same section is more intense, and yea it is basically the same
00:38:797 (6,1) - Blanket can be improved fixed?
00:49:347 (5,1) - ^<- only this one mattered imo
00:54:622 (7,1) - ^ a bit more nit picky on this one though blanket mod pls
01:41:105 (1) - The curve at the left side is a bit too much making it feel weird to me. ok fixed
[Advanced]
00:49:347 (5) - A 1/4 repeat could work here. hmm this is good
01:41:106 (1) - This curve could use some work too. ook
I find your choice in rhythm kinda off here considering you followed the vocals all the way. nice missing timestamp
[Five Leaf Clover]
00:05:995 (3,1) - The flow feels weird. Try emphasizing it in a different angle. changed the angle but idk what was wrong before, just normal circular flow
00:35:501 (2,3,4) - Whats with the SV changes when the vocals is constant? hitsounds will tell you the answer lul

This is all I got! The music is 👌 Now I got more to watch this summer!
Good luck in ranking!

wait you skipped kami's diff :thinking:
anyway thanks for the mod!

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-05-08T22:23:14+00:00

vekt0r wrote:
wait you skipped kami's diff :thinking:

too sugoi for le nitrous

Nitrous

1,206 posts

Joined October 2015

Nitrous 2017-05-10T02:36:00+00:00

sugoi desu ne

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-05-11T17:49:52+00:00

Normal

00:41:765 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistency with 00:31:215 (1,2,3) - try make them same rhythm?
01:15:391 (5,1) - this is really confusing as normal tbh, just use DS here as well
since there's no spinner, consider change the 01:41:105 (1) - to spinner as it's still low diff, same as adv

Advanced

00:24:127 (3,4) - try this rhythm for making it more natural for playing, skipping 00:24:622 - would be safe as vocal is kinda strong here so ye
00:34:677 (3,4) - ^
01:05:172 (2,2) - stack
idk u mapped way too heavy on vocals w

Gaia

00:58:083 (2,3) - maybe try this rhythm for vocals and this had p same rhythm with 01:08:633 (2,3) - so ye

Kami

00:52:644 (3) - this is the only one that have small spacing on claps in this section, maybe move 00:52:314 (1,2) - on lower area
01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) - this can be done more further tbh as u used large spacings on previous vocals section 01:00:886 (3,4,5,6) -
01:13:413 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent with 01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) -
01:17:864 (3,4,5) - use same distance pls
01:18:687 (1) - 01:21:325 (1) - 01:23:962 (1) - idk why u holding back on the spacing here, strong cymbals definitely worth to have large spacing. Even your non-finished sounds had large spacing i.e 01:19:676 (3,1) -

Five Leaf Clover

01:05:831 (1) - unnecessary NC
01:25:281 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ye i get the point for the triangle but consider to reduce the spacing on every (3) as there's no more strong instruments and vocals are fading

im sleepy alr sry

if u gonna m4m then pls : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/611224
take note that might delay the kudosu, my userpage explains w

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-11T20:27:19+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
Normal
00:41:765 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistency with 00:31:215 (1,2,3) - try make them same rhythm? good idea, not exactly same but made 00:32:369 (3) - three circles
01:15:391 (5,1) - this is really confusing as normal tbh, just use DS here as well wow oops unintentional ofc, fixed
since there's no spinner, consider change the 01:41:105 (1) - to spinner as it's still low diff, same as adv but i put so much effort into those sliders
Advanced
00:24:127 (3,4) - try this rhythm for making it more natural for playing, skipping 00:24:622 - would be safe as vocal is kinda strong here so ye xd yea it actually works really well
00:34:677 (3,4) - ^ ^
01:05:172 (2,2) - stack oops
idk u mapped way too heavy on vocals w w
wait ur first mod point is following vocals more :thinking:
Five Leaf Clover
01:05:831 (1) - unnecessary NC for emphasis on loud trumpet; it was suggested in a mod and i liked it
01:25:281 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - ye i get the point for the triangle but consider to reduce the spacing on every (3) as there's no more strong instruments and vocals are fading cool, also visually separates strong beats from others which is nice
im sleepy alr sry sleepy mod good mod

if u gonna m4m then pls : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/611224
take note that might delay the kudosu, my userpage explains w

Thanks for the mod!

@Nitrous, Kami very true tbh
@Gaia i just copied my kiai pattern onto your diff first

Yoshimaro

539 posts

Joined January 2014

Yoshimaro 2017-05-12T23:39:54+00:00

hi im modder c:

rank lolis y e s, bite sized mod inc

vekt0r wrote:
but i put so much effort into those sliders

That's not a reason to reject a mod lol...

General

Using drum-hitnormal.wav the way you are using it is unrankable.
With this said, go and mute all of your slider ends where you currently have a drum-hitnormal with a S 5% inherited point.

Normal

In general, I am against the use of the 1 1/2 timing for this difficulty. I don't feel like they're needed especially considering in every instance there is an alternative that uses sliders instead (aside from that, cute diff c:).
00:33:028 (5,6) - Make this a 1/1 slider and leave a circle on 00:33:523 -
01:16:050 - Using this rhythm, while still following the vocals, would be much more intuitive to follow and remove the 1 1/2 gap. Consider this rhythm instead because it will be much easier for beginners to land. This same rhythm applies for 01:18:688 (1,2,3) - as well.

Five Leaf Clover

00:04:182 (1) - I feel the increase in difficulty with this slider object is a bit much for the intro, and also considering 00:01:545 (1,2) - and 00:02:864 (1,2) - were just as held vocally as 00:04:182 (1) - .
00:07:479 (1) - Mute sliderend.
00:08:798 (1,2) - ^
00:10:116 (1) -
00:33:358 (1,2) - Nerf these. Compare them to 00:32:039 (3,4) - , I do not believe that these notes are any more emphasized by the music, so I think having the spacing be more than 00:32:039 (3,4) - is pretty over emphasized.
00:49:017 (2,3) - Consider placing these closer to eachother.
01:13:578 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - What happened to the hitsounds

relevant c:

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-13T04:17:44+00:00

- Yoshimaro - wrote:
hi im modder c:

rank lolis y e s, bite sized ha wait no what mod inc

vekt0r wrote:
but i put so much effort into those sliders
That's not a reason to reject a mod lol...
yea that was a joke (of course)
if you want the actual reason the two choices are in general practically equivalent so i just responded jokingly; in this case i don't really care much for leaderboard spin farming and i like my sliders not only because of the effort, but because in each diff, the tighter curve at the end represents the end of the guitar sound

General
Using drum-hitnormal.wav the way you are using it is unrankable.
With this said, go and mute all of your slider ends where you currently have a drum-hitnormal with a S 5% inherited point. oh didn't know that, fixed

Normal
In general, I am against the use of the 1 1/2 timing for this difficulty. I don't feel like they're needed especially considering in every instance there is an alternative that uses sliders instead (aside from that, cute diff c:).
00:33:028 (5,6) - Make this a 1/1 slider and leave a circle on 00:33:523 - first 00:33:358 - serves mostly as a lead-in for 00:33:523 (6) -, and i don't want 5 to be a slider because there's the group of 3 that's being emphasized, and the sound fades quickly (also the 3/2 gap is readable because it's a lead-in to the downbeat; players don't always just read in terms of the time gap from the previous note)
01:16:050 - Using this rhythm, while still following the vocals, would be much more intuitive to follow and remove the 1 1/2 gap. Consider this rhythm instead because it will be much easier for beginners to land. This same rhythm applies for 01:18:688 (1,2,3) - as well. (first this doesn't follow the vocals at all lol) okay because kisses also mentioned this; reason i'm doing this rhythm (kind of) is because if i can't follow the vocals well, then i might as well just have the rhythm on the drums and it still works fairly well (?)

Five Leaf Clover
00:04:182 (1) - I feel the increase in difficulty with this slider object is a bit much for the intro, and also considering 00:01:545 (1,2) - and 00:02:864 (1,2) - were just as held vocally as 00:04:182 (1) - . okay "nerfed" it a bit, but it's less "held vocally" and more that it's just a stronger sound;
plus it provides an appropriate "build-up" to 00:04:842 (1) -
00:07:479 (1) - Mute sliderend.
00:08:798 (1,2) - ^
00:10:116 (1) - all fixed
00:33:358 (1,2) - Nerf these. Compare them to 00:32:039 (3,4) - , I do not believe that these notes are any more emphasized by the music, so I think having the spacing be more than 00:32:039 (3,4) - is pretty over emphasized. uhh there's a pretty loud snare on 00:33:523 (2) - lol changed something because angle too wide though
00:49:017 (2,3) - Consider placing these closer to eachother. sure, also helps flow
01:13:578 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - ~~remap kds thx~~ What happened to the hitsounds oops didn't realize they were all gone besides the whistle

relevant c:
fbi if you're reading this my computer is clean thank

Thanks for the mod!

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-05-14T21:21:50+00:00

Akitoshi wrote:
Kami
00:52:644 (3) - this is the only one that have small spacing on claps in this section, maybe move 00:52:314 (1,2) - on lower area So the spacing and y axis is mapped to the pitch, so that's why its like that.
01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) - this can be done more further tbh as u used large spacings on previous vocals section 01:00:886 (3,4,5,6) -
01:13:413 (1,2,3,4) - inconsistent with 01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) - The the second half of "egao" seems to blend together more, as opposed to the "mada mada" of the other one, which is why I used a slider for one and not the other
01:17:864 (3,4,5) - use same distance pls
01:18:687 (1) - 01:21:325 (1) - 01:23:962 (1) - idk why u holding back on the spacing here, strong cymbals definitely worth to have large spacing. Even your non-finished sounds had large spacing i.e 01:19:676 (3,1) -

ty for mod

fix

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vekt0r

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vekt0r 2017-05-14T21:26:50+00:00

updated kami

Gaia

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Joined May 2013

Gaia 2017-05-15T04:44:28+00:00

fixed some stuff and did hs ty for mods! // @vektor can u add a silent soft-sliderslide7 for me pls thx

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vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-15T12:09:27+00:00

updated gaia
S:C7 same

Metaku

524 posts

Joined August 2015

Metaku 2017-05-24T07:42:50+00:00

Hi! Short mod

[Normal]

00:41:765 (1) - I feel that the head and tail are a bit too close to each other, maybe move a bit?
00:44:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - This is quite complex rhythm and lots of 1/2 compared to the rest of the map, even the kiai
01:02:204 (5,6) - I find it weird to see you use 1/2 only for stuff like this and not for any of the vocals here which are at least imo far more noticeable than the drums in the background
01:41:105 (1) - The curve on this looks kinda unnatural so maybe polish it a bit, especially the end

[Advanced]

00:22:479 (3) - I'd probably nc this since the spacing is pretty similar to the 1/2 jump before... You also used similar ncing later on with 00:44:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) -
01:05:172 (2,2) - Hmm I get the idea but doesn't look too nice

Just a general note but I find some of the 1/1 gaps hard to read as you sometimes use jumps but sometimes they're just 1/1 gaps with really similar spacing so you might want to figure out something for easier readability (This is supposed to be rather easy to read after all since it's an advanced...)

[Gaia]

01:04:017 (7,1) - Might be kinda hard to read after all those 1/2 stacks even with the nc so you could make it slightly different visually (like idk move 1 a bit to top right so it'd make a linear pattern with 01:04:017 (7,1,3) - ? )

[Kami]

00:38:468 (3,4,5) - Idk I just find this weird and you don't really do this stuff elsewhere
01:25:940 (2,1,1) - cool

Kami actually mapped something nice

[Clover]

00:04:842 (1,2) - I can't figure out the idea behind these speed ups... The song is just as calm as it was and increasing the slider speed by 50% is just kinda weird
00:29:072 (4,1) - Well again kinda the 1/1 gap thing as in advanced. Sure most people of this skill level should be able to read it just fine but seeing you do 1/1 gaps differently on pretty much every place (00:29:072 (4,1) - 00:35:171 (1,2) - ) kinda feels like you lack an idea or a concept for these
01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) - Just a personal thing but overlaps with barely touching edges just trigger me so bad
01:15:061 - Kinda silent hitsounds here imo, might want to have them slightly louder
01:25:281 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I can't see a reason for such drastic spacing differences when all the notes are pretty equal in the music
01:26:270 (4) - Maybe nc?

Yukiyo

425 posts

Joined June 2014

Yukiyo 2017-05-24T15:00:38+00:00

aaaaaa from my q m4m
(so many mods already hope I can help)

Normal:
00:09:457 (3,2) - why not stack them? 00:11:435 (2) - seems uncentered
00:13:743 - it's bugging me how oyu are skipping this much more important sound :/
00:16:380 - ^
00:19:017 - ^
00:24:622 (3,4) - blanket
00:23:962 (2,1) - why not stack them?
00:38:797 (6,1) - blanket
01:31:545 - repeating problem

.. overall I like the dynamic movement and rhythm chosen.

Advanced:
honestly I don't know the standards for an advanced so I can't really judge this

Hard:
Well, ~technically~ there is nothing wrong with, i dislike the style though

Insane:
00:15:061 (4,1) - aren't you missing abit of emphasis for this downbeat?
00:20:666 (1) - ^?
00:23:798 (2) - why exactly is there a jump here? I don't see a reason to emphasize this honestly
00:25:281 (3) - I can understand this in contrast to the above but the above doesn't really makes sense
00:37:809 (1) - you are pretty inconsistant with your emphasis on downbeats compare it to 00:36:490 (1) -
01:00:226 (1,4) - umm overlap? doesn't really look good imo
01:06:820 (1) - again inconsitency with the downbeat emphasis
01:16:050 - is this kiai trigger really necessary?

other than that rather clean I must say.

Five Leaf Extra:
00:17:864 - why is this silenced? sounds rather confusing
00:25:281 (3) - why this SV change? is it really necessary, I don't understand the reasoning as the vocals are almost the same
00:26:600 - ^ same here, it's just really confusing and inconsistant.
00:29:402 - 1/1 gap especially in an extra that can just be filled as I see no use for it really.
00:30:391 - ^
00:35:336 - ^and the list goes on
00:39:951 -
00:40:940 -
00:49:429 (5,6,3) - this overlap could act in a really confusing way, especially with HD
00:52:149 - xd
00:58:907 (1,2) - why all these seemingly random SV changes?, no player will really notice them but rather be just confused.

This diff is suffering under these uncertain 1/1 gaps.
In a 5.3 they don't really feel right imo ;-,
sorry for shit and short mod lol

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-05-25T02:39:31+00:00

My Angel Mir wrote:
Hi! Short mod

[Normal]

00:41:765 (1) - I feel that the head and tail are a bit too close to each other, maybe move a bit? oops scaling things down makes them closer
00:44:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - This is quite complex rhythm and lots of 1/2 compared to the rest of the map, even the kiai yea i do think that's too complex but don't see a way to get around it rn (having the kiai be harder is why i had 00:57:589 (1,2) - instead of a 3/2 reverse), hopefully can find a way
01:02:204 (5,6) - I find it weird to see you use 1/2 only for stuff like this and not for any of the vocals here which are at least imo far more noticeable than the drums in the background i played around with this, but in the kiai the 1/2 vocals are all pretty much emphasized equally, and putting the same pattern on all of them is too complex; keeping the sliders here because i think that works as a concept to draw attention to the rhythm here
01:41:105 (1) - The curve on this looks kinda unnatural so maybe polish it a bit, especially the end fixed (again)

[Advanced]

00:22:479 (3) - I'd probably nc this since the spacing is pretty similar to the 1/2 jump before... You also used similar ncing later on with 00:44:402 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - yea i had that before but removed for consistency; this is a pretty good reason to keep tho (also wrong timestamp lol)
01:05:172 (2,2) - Hmm I get the idea but doesn't look too nice stacked it the other way, should look better

Just a general note but I find some of the 1/1 gaps hard to read as you sometimes use jumps but sometimes they're just 1/1 gaps with really similar spacing so you might want to figure out something for easier readability (This is supposed to be rather easy to read after all since it's an advanced...) fixed some

[Clover]

00:04:842 (1,2) - I can't figure out the idea behind these speed ups... The song is just as calm as it was and increasing the slider speed by 50% is just kinda weird it's because of the way the vocals are sung but ok nerfed somewhat
00:29:072 (4,1) - Well again kinda the 1/1 gap thing as in advanced. Sure most people of this skill level should be able to read it just fine but seeing you do 1/1 gaps differently on pretty much every place (00:29:072 (4,1) - 00:35:171 (1,2) - ) kinda feels like you lack an idea or a concept for these that's because there's no relation between these two gaps; fixed the first one though
01:02:864 (1,2,3,4) - Just a personal thing but overlaps with barely touching edges just trigger me so bad o they were supposed to overlap more but then scaling
01:15:061 - Kinda silent hitsounds here imo, might want to have them slightly louder raised a bit
01:25:281 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - I can't see a reason for such drastic spacing differences when all the notes are pretty equal in the music actually it was equal but then someone pointed out that the intensity fades in each group of 3
01:26:270 (4) - Maybe nc? sure for groups of 3

Yukiyo wrote:
aaaaaa from my q m4m
(so many mods already hope I can help)

Normal:
00:09:457 (3,2) - why not stack them? 00:11:435 (2) - seems uncentered were supposed to be
00:13:743 - it's bugging me how oyu are skipping this much more important sound :/ ok multiple people said this so i changed the rhythm, hopefully not too hard
00:16:380 - ^
00:19:017 - ^
00:24:622 (3,4) - blanket what's wrong with it though
00:23:962 (2,1) - why not stack them? it was like a pixel off xd
00:38:797 (6,1) - blanket ^^
01:31:545 - repeating problem same

.. overall I like the dynamic movement and rhythm chosen. thanks lol

Five Leaf Extra:
00:17:864 - why is this silenced? sounds rather confusing because no sound there, but i suppose a triple sound effect is fine
00:25:281 (3) - why this SV change? is it really necessary, I don't understand the reasoning as the vocals are almost the same drum rhythm is different, like in hitsounds
00:26:600 - ^ same here, it's just really confusing and inconsistant. ^
00:29:402 - 1/1 gap especially in an extra that can just be filled as I see no use for it really. applied this and 00:39:951 - because of the drum rhythm, but that's still not a good mindset; some of these have no sound on them, and others are very weak beats - these gaps can't just be filled if that diminishes the emphasis on other beats
00:30:391 - ^
00:35:336 - ^and the list goes on
00:39:951 - did this one ^
00:40:940 -
00:49:429 (5,6,3) - this overlap could act in a really confusing way, especially with HD hmm idk but fixed anyway
00:52:149 - xd hmm trying a 3/4 slider for held vocal, but why "xd" xd
00:58:907 (1,2) - why all these seemingly random SV changes?, no player will really notice them but rather be just confused. i mean okay (also you can't be confused if you don't notice it) but it's to make the slidershape look better, and the slidershape is because of the trumpet

This diff is suffering under these uncertain 1/1 gaps.
In a 5.3 they don't really feel right imo ;-,
sorry for shit and short mod lol

thanks for the mods, yea both of them were helpful lol
@Yukiyo I'll get to your map on Friday, sorry if that's later than you expected xd

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2017-05-25T15:29:19+00:00

im still waiting for that 2-3 day mod
[5leaf]

00:06:654 (2) - well i mean this aint even snapped
00:12:424 (4) - doesnt really require 1/8 imo, 1/4 works fine but its up to you
00:13:248 (3,4) - vs 00:14:072 (1,2) - vs 00:17:204 (4) - , all 3 trumpets are held just as much but mapped differently for no reason. suggest making it more consistent (repeated)
00:16:710 - why are these useless greenlines littered throughout your map?? (repeated)
00:35:171 (1,2) - vs 00:24:622 (1,2) - maybe make the greater distance more obvious?
00:46:710 (1,1) - your extended sliders never had a note next to it this far before, compared to 00:14:567 (3,4) - which is arguably in a more intense part, the spacing is smaller than that as compared to here, which makes no sense
00:54:292 (1,1,1) - similar to above^
00:55:281 (1,4) - whats the point of the SV change when the music is basically of similar intensity
00:56:929 (3,4) - ^ (repeated)
01:00:226 (1,1) - any reason that these 2 notes have different hitsounds? they sound exactly the same
01:04:842 (4,5,6,7) - i hear nothing in the music that justifies this kick and triplet,
theres absolutely nothing in the music that supports this
01:41:105 (1) - just make this a spinner for score variation. the slider looks bad and it doesnt fit the song anyways.

i guess a good way to represent your problems is that everything is very inconsistent. you seem to think up of ideas that you want to stick to but somehow forget to adhere to all the rules you've planned out for yourself prior. as of now, your map is haphazardly made and everything seems to be placed for the sake of it. it doesnt make sense with respect to the song most of the time; intensities, patterns, rhythmic choices, slider shapes and curvature etc. its comfortable to play to an acceptable level but i think aesthetics need to be brushed up on more. not just that, most of the volume changes and SV changes are so insignificant and make no sense with respect to the song. i notice that you tend (i say tend because its very inconsistent) to increase the volumes of beats 2 and 4 of every bar, which musically makes sense. however, i feel like an emphasis in terms of adding a stronger hitsound at those points is basically sufficient.

[kami]
00:10:116 (1,1) - just as much as i think the intense jump fits the song, its rather hard to play with the previous slider's SV being this low
00:35:006 (4,5,1) - i hear nothing on the triplet
00:43:578 (3,4,5) - ^ (repeated)
00:54:622 (2) - vs 00:12:424 (1) - , any reason to make them different?

most of the issues in this map are aesthetic based; too many jump patterns or weird overlaps that i just personally think are very ugly. not going to mention them just in case i get shot down for subjectively modding. else, i can agree with most rhythm choices and stuff. passable enough for me

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-05-26T00:36:55+00:00

My Angel Mir wrote:
[Kami]

00:38:468 (3,4,5) - Idk I just find this weird and you don't really do this stuff elsewhere
01:25:940 (2,1,1) - cool i know right

Kami actually mapped something nice

you dirty pp farmer

Emilia wrote:
[kami]
[*]00:10:116 (1,1) - just as much as i think the intense jump fits the song, its rather hard to play with the previous slider's SV being this low
[*]00:35:006 (4,5,1) - i hear nothing on the triplet its to map to both the held vocals and the downbeat drum. perfectly viable, as per kibbleru
[*]00:43:578 (3,4,5) - ^ (repeated) same as above
[*]00:54:622 (2) - vs 00:12:424 (1) - , any reason to make them different? yes. main reason is because in 00:12:424 (1) - this, there is a held repeat slider that maps to the drum roll, whereas in the other one, there isn't. Even if the sound is similar, I believe, if only for playability, this difference is ok. also they are far enough apart in the song that the difference won't spark any confusion, imo

most of the issues in this map are aesthetic based; too many jump patterns or weird overlaps that i just personally think are very ugly. not going to mention them just in case i get shot down for subjectively modding. else, i can agree with most rhythm choices and stuff. passable enough for me[/list]

ty for mods

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vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-06-03T06:01:47+00:00

Emilia wrote:
im still waiting for that 2-3 day mod
[5leaf]
00:06:654 (2) - well i mean this aint even snapped 1ms off when applying previous
00:12:424 (4) - doesnt really require 1/8 imo, 1/4 works fine but its up to you 1/8's better for piano gliss
00:13:248 (3,4) - vs 00:14:072 (1,2) - vs 00:17:204 (4) - , all 3 trumpets are held just as much but mapped differently for no reason. suggest making it more consistent (repeated) wait isn't this literally false; 00:17:204 (4) - is 3/2 beat long first of all lol, and i'm pretty sure 00:13:248 (3) - is not held
00:16:710 - why are these useless greenlines littered throughout your map?? (repeated) yea there were 3
00:35:171 (1,2) - vs 00:24:622 (1,2) - maybe make the greater distance more obvious? pls i'm pretty sure 1/1 gaps don't need to be consistent but moved a little
00:46:710 (1,1) - your extended sliders never had a note next to it this far before, compared to 00:14:567 (3,4) - which is arguably in a more intense part, the spacing is smaller than that as compared to here, which makes no sense made notes after 3/4s spaced unless calm
00:54:292 (1,1,1) - similar to above^
00:55:281 (1,4) - whats the point of the SV change when the music is basically of similar intensity trumpet, it's also the reason for nc on the second beat?
00:56:929 (3,4) - ^ (repeated) ok just got rid of these tho
01:00:226 (1,1) - any reason that these 2 notes have different hitsounds? they sound exactly the same missing finish, nice catch
01:04:842 (4,5,6,7) - i hear nothing in the music that justifies this kick and triplet, theres absolutely nothing in the music that supports this idk what you mean it's literally what you said; a strong drum on the 4 and then a drum triplet
01:41:105 (1) - just make this a spinner for score variation. the slider looks bad and it doesnt fit the song anyways. i already explained the reasoning behind this: "i don't really care much for leaderboard spin farming / the tighter curve at the end represents the end of the guitar sound"

i guess a good way to represent your problems is that everything is very inconsistent. you seem to think up of ideas that you want to stick to but somehow forget to adhere to all the rules you've planned out for yourself prior. as of now, your map is haphazardly made and everything seems to be placed for the sake of it. it doesnt make sense with respect to the song most of the time; intensities, patterns, rhythmic choices, slider shapes and curvature etc. its comfortable to play to an acceptable level but i think aesthetics need to be brushed up on more. not just that, most of the volume changes and SV changes are so insignificant and make no sense with respect to the song. i notice that you tend (i say tend because its very inconsistent) to increase the volumes of beats 2 and 4 of every bar, which musically makes sense. however, i feel like an emphasis in terms of adding a stronger hitsound at those points is basically sufficient.
lmao i almost never raise the volume on beats 2 or 4 what; however i do raise the volume for a pair of some sort of kick drum that recurs sometimes (it's hard to describe, but it's something that would fit with kicksliders)
consistency is something i'm trying to work on, since i often try to introduce too many things, but i think small, or "insignificant" changes are actually quite effective when used systematically

thanks for the mod! tired so i'll mod your map tomorrow provided access to this computer i'm borrowing

updated Kami's diff (don't forget ur code tags thank)

Momochikun

1,927 posts

Joined October 2012

Momochikun 2017-06-05T14:56:50+00:00

im very late sorry :d

this song is so cute, i wonder why they didnt make this one the opening instead hahaha

[clover]
btw could you use silent sliderslide, the sound on earlier part is so disturbing
00:30:391 - this stop feel weird somehow, could you add note 00:30:061 - and start this 1/2 later ?
00:40:940 - same^
00:44:402 (1,1,1,1) - there's so much unnecessary nc's here, i think those one dont need nc's
01:04:842 (4) - how about nc for kiai transition ? also vocal here
01:13:413 - what's with the sudden volume drop ? kiai is still going on

[Insane]
00:22:314 - delete the clap ? no snare here
00:24:622 (1) - tbh this slider look weird for me
00:31:050 - the pause doesnt seems necessary here imo, try adding note
01:38:468 (1) - how about 3 notes jump here ? more fun and fit the song tense imo

[Hard]
00:23:303 (1) - delete whistle ? it sounds bad along with soft finish , so many though
00:58:578 (3,4) - kinda weird to see this got huge spacing when 00:59:732 (6,7,1) - this one only normal spacing and moreover a stack
01:27:589 (3) - drum finish better

[advanced]
00:04:842 (3,1) - naziiiii overlap tbh it looks bad
00:49:347 (1) - delete nc ? and 01:04:347 (1) - too
01:17:205 (1) - would be better if you just stick with drums here, the vocal isnt so strong which make this kinda weird
01:18:193 - note pls
01:19:842 (1,2) - ^literally same
01:22:644 - cymbal doe

gl

vekt0r

175 posts

Joined May 2016

Topic Starter

vekt0r 2017-06-05T22:15:46+00:00

Momochikun wrote:
im very late sorry :d

this song is so cute, i wonder why they didnt make this one the opening instead hahaha yea this would have been nice as a season opening or something

[clover]
btw could you use silent sliderslide, the sound on earlier part is so disturbing ok muted N:C1 and S:C3
00:30:391 - this stop feel weird somehow, could you add note 00:30:061 - and start this 1/2 later ?
00:40:940 - same^ added a reverse for these
00:44:402 (1,1,1,1) - there's so much unnecessary nc's here, i think those one dont need nc's idk which ones this is referring to; got rid of two but don't want to add follow points that look weird
01:04:842 (4) - how about nc for kiai transition ? also vocal here oh yea this is nice
01:13:413 - what's with the sudden volume drop ? kiai is still going on intensity drops early but made the drop much smaller

[advanced]
00:04:842 (3,1) - naziiiii overlap tbh it looks bad ok blanketed instead
00:49:347 (1) - delete nc ? and 01:04:347 (1) - too did second one, for the first one the note is separated from previous tho
01:17:205 (1) - would be better if you just stick with drums here, the vocal isnt so strong which make this kinda weird
01:18:193 - note pls
01:19:842 (1,2) - ^literally same
01:22:644 - cymbal doe ok last 4 are the same thing, when i originally mapped i thought vocals were the main thing here but according to most people guess not w

gl

thanks for the mod! idc about lateness

edit updated both below

Last edited by vekt0r 2017-06-07T03:56:59+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2017-06-05T22:33:25+00:00

My Angel Mir

My Angel Mir wrote:
Hi! Short mod

[Gaia]

01:04:017 (7,1) - Might be kinda hard to read after all those 1/2 stacks even with the nc so you could make it slightly different visually (like idk move 1 a bit to top right so it'd make a linear pattern with 01:04:017 (7,1,3) - ? ) don't think it's hard to read at all, pretty common 1/1 antijump

Momokun

Momochikun wrote:
im very late sorry :d

this song is so cute, i wonder why they didnt make this one the opening instead hahaha

[Hard]
00:23:303 (1) - delete whistle ? it sounds bad along with soft finish , so many though
00:58:578 (3,4) - kinda weird to see this got huge spacing when 00:59:732 (6,7,1) - this one only normal spacing and moreover a stack i think it's because stack (circle + slider) that i kept it lower spacing, big spacing is to emphasize the strong trumpets here
01:27:589 (3) - drum finish better

gl

ty for mods! else are fixed

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stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-06-05T23:34:17+00:00

Momochikun wrote:
[Insane]
00:22:314 - delete the clap ? no snare here
00:24:622 (1) - tbh this slider look weird for me
00:31:050 - the pause doesnt seems necessary here imo, try adding note i think its fine for now. i like the stop sensation. might change if more people say stuff about it
01:38:468 (1) - how about 3 notes jump here ? more fun and fit the song tense imo

update

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Artist:Rhodanthe*
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Creator:vekt0r
Version:Kami's Insane
Source:きんいろモザイク Pretty Days
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Rizen

1,662 posts

Joined August 2013

Rizen 2017-06-14T01:33:12+00:00

hi, from my m4m q

Normal

00:17:204 - add a circle here? you kinda follow that trumpet when it's present, as you have done at 00:14:072 (4) - , 00:21:490 (3,4,5) - , etc. This part is like the only place where you choose to follow the percussion over the trumpet
00:58:907 (3) - change to a 1/1 slider? It appears you are following mostly the percussion during the kiai so far, so mapping the trumpet like this isn't very intuitive to follow
01:16:050 (1) - clap missing at slider end? same at 01:18:688 (1) - .
01:34:512 (4) - don't like where the slider head is positioned, too close to 01:33:688 (2) - . Consider adjusting like this, I think it'll be much cleaner this way. Also, you have a tendency to position like this, as shown at 00:15:886 (2,3,4) - , 00:20:666 (1,2,3) - , etc. It would also eliminate the overlap at 01:34:512 (4,3) -
01:41:105 (1) - personally not a fan of this slider, looks a bit sharp around the end (compared to first curve)

Advanced

I'll be honest, not a very big fan of this difficulty. The spacing concept used here is kinda messy...
00:06:160 (1) - following your spacing concept to increase spacing at piano chords, shouldn't the spacing here be increased?
00:19:347 (1,2) - can try rotating these a little to avoid the overlap at 00:18:523 (3,2) -
00:29:237 (3,1) - 1.6x spacing instead? the correct place to use increased spacing is at 00:29:897 (2) - , which you have done correctly
00:39:787 (3) - spacing should be increased after this slider, rather than before it because of vocals
00:41:106 (1,2) - spacing consistencyyyy, compare to 00:30:556 (1,2) -
00:58:578 (4,3) - overlap here pretty messy. try adjusting the pattern around here so slider 3 tail stacks on top of slider 4 head

Gaia's Hard

00:10:776 (2) - the other sliders are (i think) following the trumpet, but there's no trumpet for this slider, making it rather unsupported imo. Consider deleting this slider, and extending 00:10:116 (1) - into a repeat slider. I think this rhythm would suit the music better
00:27:259 (5,6) - spacing here a bit too big imo, especially since there's nothing really distinct happening at this tick/beat

Kami's Insane

00:29:072 (4) - the other times u used this pattern, the repeat slider would be spaced out a bit more. this one doesn't follow that concept though. e.g. 00:30:061 (4) - , 00:39:621 (4) - , 00:40:611 (4) -
00:30:886 (3) - use an extended slider here as you have done at 00:41:435 (3) - ? stop sensation doesn't really work well here sinec the song is rather flowy
00:35:089 (5) - I think this is overmapped (no beats in music at this tick)
00:38:962 (5) - did u clap this by accident?
00:43:743 (5,6) - possible to space these sliders a little more so the slider heads aren't touching?
01:00:721 (2) - overmapped imo, no beat on this tick to support the circle

Five Leaf Clover

00:15:061 (5,1) - looks rather messy, positioning these liek this will make it neater imo
00:23:303 (1) - flow from previous slider here is rather icky, try ctrl+h'ing this slider for a smoother flow path
00:44:072 (2,1) - kinda spaced a bit too much imo. as in, it doesn't flow very well to a relatively calm section of the song
00:49:017 (2,3) - spacing here a bit overdone imo
00:51:325 (5) - would be good to keep consistency with bigger spacing with 00:50:336 (5) -
01:04:842 (1,2,3,4) - spacing here a bit overdone imo, especially since the spacing used here is similar to the one you use for 1/2 beats
01:08:633 (3) - would be nice to hitsound the cymbal crash here with a N:1 finish addition imo. same at 01:09:292 -
01:22:479 (5) - possible to make the large white tick clickable? audible cymbal crash there

good luck!

map to mod back: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/623638

stUwUpid

608 posts

Joined January 2015

stUwUpid 2017-06-14T23:44:35+00:00

Rizen wrote:
Kami's Insane
00:29:072 (4) - the other times u used this pattern, the repeat slider would be spaced out a bit more. this one doesn't follow that concept though. e.g. 00:30:061 (4) - , 00:39:621 (4) - , 00:40:611 (4) -
00:30:886 (3) - use an extended slider here as you have done at 00:41:435 (3) - ? stop sensation doesn't really work well here sinec the song is rather flowy
00:35:089 (5) - I think this is overmapped (no beats in music at this tick) triplet is used to map to held vocal plus the downbeat (could search for quote from kibbleru, but lazy)
00:38:962 (5) - did u clap this by accident?
00:43:743 (5,6) - possible to space these sliders a little more so the slider heads aren't touching?
01:00:721 (2) - overmapped imo, no beat on this tick to support the circle used as a support and preparation for the jumps

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