ok revived lol
edit: ok now we're ready
both fixed, thank you for checking!CucumberCuc wrote:
Hi
[Easy]
00:25:451 (2) The end of the object not on the tick
[Hard]
01:08:308 (4) The end of the object not on the tick
thanks for modding!Kaifin wrote:
no 2kds? no mod
lol jkCookieBite's Normal
are you sure about that im sure xd
- 00:48:080 (3,4,5) - giving this pattern a bit more horizontal spacing like 00:42:594 (3,4,5) - would make it less cramped for both flow and aesthetic ok sure applied
- 00:49:451 (1,3) - i know this isn't technically a hidden repeat and i appreciate the pattern itself and think it's cool, i just think the repeat arrow being obscured is really unfair to the new player cause they definitely won't be able to read this repeat on sightread ok not hiding the reverse arrow
good luck!
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Thanks {-3-}Kaifin wrote:
Ameth's XxXxXTreme
- 00:47:737 - why is this sound 2 kicks here but at 00:42:251 (1,2,3) - its two circles and a slider: i think that changing 00:42:251 (1,2,3) - to 4 circles would be a better change than changing 00:47:737 - but it's your call Any kind of rhythm interpretation works fine actually, the high SV on the slider on this one 00:42:251 (1,2,3) - to avoid it less empashized. Like what i did on 00:46:365 (1,2,3) - , but more on a fast-to-slow.
- 01:27:508 (6,7) - this could be a bit more straight, its slightly off Fixed
interesting map, your structure seems kind of inconsistent because there are some times that you'll stack everything, and other times where you overlap everything with seemingly no pattern so it came off as a little messy and unpolished to me aesthetically, thats just the impression i got from it, interesting gimmicks though and definitely some cool parts Maybe i couldn't control the portion of overlapping and stacking at that day, but i like the kiai more than the wub part more actually
thanks for modding!Alchyr wrote:
From modding queue.SPOILERCookieBite's Normal
Seems a bit tricky for a normal, but it should be fine.
00:39:508 (2,4) - Not quite stacked properly. Use ctrl+arrows fixed
01:49:622 (1) - Considering that you mapped almost every sound, this ending actually feels a little undermapped. Possible you just wanted to have the click be on this point/have more spacing for the ending but didn't want to break distance/time equivalence, so it's up to you. i wanna take less note here as it count as the calm part of the song.
Very smooth map.
Good luck.
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Thank you for modding!Alchyr wrote:
From modding queue.
Easy
Very solid difficulty. Main concern would be possibility that switching between clicking on 1/2 and 1 might confuse some new players, but it's as readable/playable as it will get while still maintaining some resemblance of matching the song. I doubt it will be confusing, as the rhythms repeat themselves really often so the player can get used to them quite easily.
01:08:651 (1) - Could be moved up slightly to curve into 01:07:965 (2) - and 01:10:708 (2) - better changed the whole pattern into something symmetrical-ish and cooler cause it looked ugly overall lol
01:23:737 (3) - I think this would look better moved up/to the right slightly, angle seems a bit sharp right now sure
01:29:222 (2) - This could curve at a lower angle - http://i.imgur.com/SAB4PZS.png
Similar to other suggestion, to curve more smoothly into slider before and after I honestly like how it looks
01:27:851 (1) - and 01:30:594 (1) - are not stacked properly stack bug aaa hope I fixed it
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High SV!
00:05:565 (1,1,2) - Not stacked. fixed hopefully
01:12:594 (2,1) - I know this is spaced the way it is to stack the start of the stream, but the spacing feels a bit low after the jumps before it in the middle of a buildup section. meh I think it's a nice break from the intensity of the jumps, as I wanted to emphasize the gradual increase of the stream I had to make it like that
Good luck. Thank you!
Thank you so muchhh!Kaifin wrote:
Nokashi's Insane
- 00:14:651 (4,2) - stack bug // Fixed? I guess, the stack looked fine
- 00:39:851 (1,1) - unrankable, hidden repeat // Done
- check your map for other bugged stacks such as 00:52:194 (1,2) - // Sure thing
- 00:35:394 (3,4) - why are you using this angle for 4? it seems kind of random, it isn't 00:35:394 (3) - rotated by 45 degrees or anything like that (i checked) and it looks + flows pretty ugly, here's a solution: this kind of flow is fine to use you don't need to use bad angles to path the players cursor movement into hitting 00:35:737 (1) - (hopefully that makes sense) // Its just me being inexperienced with slider leniency, i think the entirety of the map shows that. Since you think there is no problem with this ill change it as i think its ugly too
- 00:38:137 (3,4) - this flow would be a lot more comfortable if you gave 00:38:308 (4) - a bit more horizontal movement to the left, it would break the symmetry of the pattern but the symmetry into the linear flow of 00:38:308 (4,1) - is quite uncomfortable, here's a potential fix for more comfy flow (4 is ctrl J'd and has its slider end stacked on the end of 00:37:108 (1) - ) // Done, nice catch
- 00:43:794 (4) - always buffer 1/8 in Insane diffs (you can almost say always buffer 1/8 but sometimes at this bpm it's okay not to, just not for Insane imo) // Done in every 1/8 reverse
- 00:46:708 (1,2) - buffing this spacing and/or giving it some slightly different flow by ctrl ging 00:47:051 (2) - would be nice because its kind of overly linear with the slider movement and is spaced in a way that it looks like there is a 1/4 gap between 00:46:708 (1,2) - instead of a 1/2 one, here's an alternative pattern (make the distance between 00:46:708 (1,2) - straight unlike my screenshot, feel free to nerf the spacing if its too high for your taste but it didnt gain any sr with this pattern so) // Applied accordingly
- 01:05:908 - okay so i like the structure you're going for in this segment, but what relation do any of these notes have to each other in any consistent fashion? as an example of what i'm talking about, 01:06:251 (2,3,2,3) - these notes look like they're just placed, without regard for one another: each individual pattern in this segment (from 01:05:908 - to 01:10:622 - ) is fine, but you should try and give them some connection BETWEEN the patterns that is consistent rather than just randomly stacking some of the objects on each other: this is kind of general advice so hopefully you are able to do something with this feedback but i had to mention it // Back then i thought about rhythm being their connection and the different ways it can be expressed. But yeah ill take your advice to heart in future maps
- 01:11:565 (2,2,2) - this is nice but its uneven // evened out
- 01:19:965 (2,3) - lol i read this as 1/2 even in the editor, this change in spacing is so out of nowhere, this should be way closer: if you eventually want to do this kind of spacing for 1/4 repeats you need to introduce it better // Yeah fixed, my bad on this one
i appreciate your structure: you can be god standard mapper <3
try to think more about when you're structuring what the notes look like BEFORE the structure becomes clear, stacks like 01:28:880 (6,2) - can end up looking quite weird when you consider the player only sees 01:29:222 (1) - and never sees the actual stack, stuff like this is most of the time better left just to stack on the slider end of 01:29:222 (1) - in this specific example // You are correct, will look into your notes when i map in the future
also map with stack view if you dont cause then you'll find out how fucked stuff like 01:37:965 (2,1,2,3) - looks to the player // yikes wtf was that
Thanks!Alchyr wrote:
Nokashi's Insane
01:20:222 (3) - This repeat slider starting on 1/4 is very awkward, as it is the only slider in the entire map that starts on 1/4. I recommend extending the 1/2 slider before it by 1/4 and then making this repeat slider a non-repeat slider on the white tick. Or something, it's just rather awkward as it is now. // Fixed in previous mod
01:49:451 (5) - Recommend moving this up slightly, then breaking distance snap with very slightly increased gap for last note. // Done
Solid difficulty.
Good luck.
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Thanks for modding!xChorse wrote:
Hello, NM from my queue.Easy 00:26:137 (3) - this slider rotated by 30 would make this pattern look cleaner 00:25:451 (2,3,4) - fixed
00:52:194 (1) - I don't think it should be stacked, try moving 00:52:194 (1,1) - to x:76 y:258 good suggestion, changed!
01:25:108 (1) - looks better if it's facing the other way imo since it would point towards 01:26:480 (2) - for more readability for newer players true
01:27:851 (1,1) - fix stack STACK BUG ASHVGDYASGHFVASH FAS
01:31:622 (2,1) - not a fan of the stack but it's ok I guess meh it's not visible on gameplay anyways
01:49:280 - put a slider here instead of the sliderend, this pattern is way too confusing since you mapped this same sound differently before (01:43:108 (3,4) - ) put two circles instead cause I want to emphasize 01:49:622 -Extra 01:05:908 (1,2) - would be cool if this entire section had these kind of sliders that stack tails partially changed. half patterns stack or overlap into a slider and the other half do not, idk if it's a cool idea but I like the visuals on some slider combinations here so I'm quite hesitant
01:45:508 (1,2) - these slightly curved sliders feel so out of place lol they're curved to anti-flow into the next objects
Hope this helps, good luck! Thank you!
thanks for modding!xChorse wrote:
Hello, NM from my queue.CookieBite's Normal 00:08:308 (1) - make this more like 00:02:822 (2) - because it's a bit obscure for this kind of difficulty applied
00:26:994 (4) - should be mapped the same way as 00:15:680 (4,5) - applied
01:32:480 (5) - this one is fine because it's pointing at 01:33:337 (1) - but 01:33:851 (2) - feels a bit forced imo, consider changing the end of the slider changed
Hope this helps, good luck!
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LOL ill make sure these stars are worth itLulu- wrote:
IT'S BACK POG CHAMPIONSHIP
i am so gay for this map shooting more stars
regN wrote:
Hello from my queue t/461969. I liked the extra a lot so I chose that one! :0
This diff is very solid and I think its good enough as it is, I will come with some input that you can choose to add or just keep in mind
as a future thing for other maps where it might be more relevant.
[Extra]Id shoot a kdsu star if I had one! Good luck thank you! this was probably the most helpful mod in my diff so far, very appreciated!
- 00:10:365 (1,2,3,4) - Here you could nc (3), and maybe add a stronger colour to those combos to signilize the intensity. Clever suggestion, I changed the color pattern of both the 1-2s to emphasize the whole jump section.
- 00:16:537 (1,2,3) - parts like these you could keep the strong first sound (1) as a straight slider, and add a small softer curve on the softer sliders like so:
I kinda find the current pattern of mine more visually appealing plus flow won't be an issue either because of the space from each other in the timeline.- 00:30:250 (1,1) - This movement is quite sharp the red upside down v (marked with yellow 1) is the sharp movement.
There is very little sound between these two notes, so the cursor will stay around the end of the slider at 00:30:250 (1), the spacing is fine, as the movement to the next note is fine, however the stream direction is opposite and fast so you get the red sharp movement. Which is different from
00:31:794 (3,1) - which is soft movement throughout due to the slider leniency. I dont know if this is intenional emphasis. I also cant find the logic behind it.
and then there is a sharp movement from 00:32:137 (3,1) -
and 00:32:308 (1,2) - This last movement makes sense though! very strong sounds!
All fixed except for the movement in the kicksliders, it's intentionally sharp/uncomfortable to emphasize the beat (y'know, the beat which emphasizes 00:31:622 (1,1,1) - these)
I mocked up something that is soft for the first two parts 00:30:250 (1,1) and 00:31:794 (3,1) and sharp for the rest
I'd rather the burst in the kickslider be straight, everything else is explained above ^^- 00:32:994 - 00:54:937 - out of all the diffs this was done the best here imo! thank you!
- 01:23:222 (7,8,9) - I feel like you've kept the movement quite consistent until here.
Like you've done here you have a sharp movement and direction change on the strong sound 7 and 8
01:20:480 (8,9) -
so I think it would be nice to keep that consistent, I made a small adjustment to 01:23:222 (7,8,9) -
the pattern you made has a really wide angle in this movement 01:23:394 (8,9,1) - so even if the jump 7-8 stays sharp it will undoublty make this movement uncomfortable, if you have a suggestion that wouldn't make it uncomfortable feel free to do so!
Thank you for modding!Mun wrote:
Time for a pretty short mod, set looks pretty good
00:31:622 (1,2,3) - This triple is mapped to nothing, I'd replace it with a 1/2 slider starting on 1 and ending on 3. damn I never noticed this lol, fixed
00:32:480 (2,3,1) - In the same spirit as Ameth's diff, this sort of spacing exists nowhere in the map prior, and there is no indication of anything of its nature before it suddenly shows up with massive spacing after a crossmap jump. While spaced triples aren't a bad concept altogether, it'd be best to start it in a way that is playable despite being unexpected. Either lowering the jump distance to it, lowering its spacing, or both will make this much more playable as an introduction to an abnormal concept. as the jump from the slider before that burst has been lowered alot thanks to the suggestion above the pattern is more appropriate to play now so ya
00:35:137 (2) - Even if there is a sound here, it's hardly noticeable at all. I'd replace that triple with a kickslider if you want to maintain the same rhythm. pretty hearable to me tbh, didn't change
00:44:480 (3,4,1) - Implying movement away from a slider and then requiring a decently wide 1/4 jump to it is pretty far from player-friendly. I'm all for challenging pattern, but this direct contradiction of implied movement is better saved for more easily playable patterns. reversed and so did with the slider before, good suggestion
01:11:908 (1,2,3,1,2) - What intensity has changed to suddenly merit such huge jumps compared to what you had before? spacing lowered, I will keep this 01:11:737 (3,1) - jump bigger though because of the piano
01:16:537 (1,1) - dude nice. jasgdjasvda i cant blanket you can send the code of it if you want
Honestly way more generic than Ameth's, but also way better. :eyes:
I'm not quite proficient at modding the lowest difficulties, so I'll leave it there. However, the spread may have some note density issues between Easy and Normal - may want to get that investigated, as I am not an entirely credible source for that.
Thanks!!xChorse wrote:
Hello, NM from my queue.Nokashi's Insane 00:30:937 (1) - Unnecessary NC I think // Fixed
01:19:965 (2) - missing clap// Fixed
Really helpful mod, thanks!Mun wrote:
00:25:622 (4,5) - These reflect pretty quiet triples but end on extremely strong kicks, which is unadvisable emphasis.// Changed the second one that ended on a downbeat. ill keep the second for simplicity as i dont want to strain the player too much in the intro of the map
00:28:537 (3,4,1) - Intensity doesn't seem to change here, what's with the sudden drop in spacing? // Fixed
00:39:508 (2) - This is an insane, you can probably use kicksliders. The sound seems to merit that more anyway.// I use these fast reverses on these specific wubs that differ from the wubs that i use 1/4 sliders on and i like the effect it gives
01:05:908 - Why is the intensity of the spacing here nearly the same as the spacing intensity in the wub section? It's pretty noticeably softer, so there's no reason for the map to keep the exact same intensity level (and in some places, a higher one). // Lowered spacing a bit, but i want to keep the stack effects i had going on
01:46:880 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - When the rhythm/intensity of this sound changes at 01:47:908 (1,2,1) - the way you represent it remains exactly the same way. // Remapped this
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Mun wrote:
a meth head00:02:822 (3) - Despite the piano here, doubling the SV you normally use for this section just for that one slider creates a false precedent (this doesn't exist anywhere else in the section) and seems pretty overdone. Alongside this, you do the same sort of speedup-slowdown repeatedly through the section, but it's very inconsistent. Sometimes it's on kicks, sometimes it's on snares. I'd both nerf these to maybe 0.8 or 0.9x SV, and make its use a little bit more understandable. I did incorporate and clarified the SV changing system that i already had in this whole part, so not entirely that overdone. Using only 0,50x and 1,00x, the concept was to fasten the strong parts rather than focusing into kick snares, but in some cases there are sort of people using 10/20 faster or slower SV in the end they did not do any emphasize or difference (if they are about less 2,50 universal SV) and resulting in an useless usage of the SV change.
00:09:337 (1) - Sliders should start on a strong beat and end on a beat of equal or lesser strength. The slow speed justifies the beat itself,no need for another complication. That kind of rule is kind-of-non-existent.
00:10:880 (1,1) - You are using greater spacing for 1/8 than you just used for 1/4. Though it's understandable that you want some strong emphasis on the big change in the song, that may be a bit much. Yeah maybe i wanna try downing this a bit.
00:12:937 (1) - The way this sound is represented in the song does not change at all at this point, and thus it does not make sense to make this specific sound held longer than the others, especially when the same hihat that each prior slider has ended on continues consistently on and beyond this beat. Yes it doesn't change but whenever 00:12:594 (2) - OR 00:12:937 (1) - it's pretty much sounds the same on the end itself, every beat starts on the red snap so considering the different types of rhythm interpretation works fine and makes the player worths more fun and less stress. Does not clarify as "specific" though.
00:15:680 (1,2) - Even in the case that you do decide to keep those sliders, making a crossmap 1/4 jump is not supported by this section. The spacing simply does not follow the map or the song. I might be trying to change this, thinking of by reducing it around 1/2 of the distance and reducing the stress on the previous gaps.
00:21:337 (2) - The fact that this slider starts and reverses on similar sounds, but ends on a completely different one is a misrepresentation of the music. Maybe use two 1/4 sliders or one 1/2 slider into a triple instead? Got it changed into 1/2 slider instead.
00:22:880 (1,2,3) - Especially considering how quiet the track this triple is mapped to is, as well as the fact that such spacing has not been introduced anywhere in the song, this is abrasive, a huge difficulty spike, and does not follow the song's intensity at all. Aside from that, the slow slider there doesn't equal as a knife-edged spike that makes this so hard either. The spacing of its stream, as the overall it's playable so this is not a big issue either.
00:28:537 (1,2) - For a pattern that is NC'd to separate it from the previous 2-slider pattern, the spacing at 00:28:365 (2,1) - is extremely low, especially relative to the spacing of 00:28:022 (2,1) - that successfully entirely separates the relevant patterns. meirl
00:28:880 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - You don't actually consider this readable, do you? Double+1/4 jump has not been introduced anywhere at all in the music, and here it is, 4 times, with extremely large spacing, with 00:28:880 (1,2,1,2) - and 00:28:880 (1,2,1,2) - sharing distances from each other. This is an extremely harsh difficulty spike that utilizes patterns and gimmicks you did not even try to establish earlier in the map. The pattern is unpredictable, uncalled for, and provides undue stress to the player to emphasize nothing. Enjoy Charles445's wisdom.
LOOOOO A lots of people complained it. I changed it anyway, should be okay with basic streams.
00:29:565 (1,2) - Then, all of a sudden, after this near-impossible unsightreadable pattern, you heavily lower the player's aiming, tapping, and reading stress while a new sound is introduced and adds intensity. Pardon the French, but this is ass-backwards. Should be fine with the current change on above, a lot more easier to aim at 00:29:908 (1) - .
00:29:908 (1,2) - And then, right after that, snare hits greatly intensify the sounds, and yet they're supposed to be tapped and aimed with almost no difference from the prior pattern. The least you could do here is a (normal, readable) stream. Then a stream would be even more frustating than ever what i did previously (streams with some huge spacing). Thus having a stream would be only creating a plain emphasize based on how strong it is, but being tapped was in another way of its topic. I would prefer escalate the pattern/structure intensity for its looking.
00:31:965 (3,4) - The exact same slider is emphasizing a different rhythm here. This slider only groups with 00:32:137 (4,5,1) - . And another group 00:31:622 (1,2,3) - . 00:31:965 (3,4) - These folks were copypasted to applicate the structure even more. Emphasize was on this exact static position of this 00:31:880 (2,3) - where you gonna hit these doublets. 00:32:137 (4) - This guy continues the continuous streaming beat. 00:32:308 (5) - Slow downs to prepare for its explose and so goes on.
00:33:680 (3,1) - Just for the sake of neatness, stack these. i dID
00:35:222 - A sound occurs here, totally different from the sliderhead and the same as the sliderend of the slider that ignores the relatively prominent sound. That was like a micro-sound of a wub that you can only hear from 75% playback rate and less. The dominant ones are after that.
00:35:394 (1,2,3) - And in this drop section, you have not used 1/4 jumps at all except from the ends of sliders, and yet you make one here with huge spacing. You should really introduce concepts before using them in a map, especially so heavy-handedly. Not sure but i think by adjusting and changing 00:35:565 (3) - would be good for me. It's a kind of disagree though but not entirely.
00:36:080 (1,1) - When the sound is almost exactly the same, why are you changing the SV so heavily? Just for the sake of SV change explosion on 00:36:422 (1) - but thinking of the benefits, it's pretty well done but mediocre-ish.
00:36:422 (1) - This also applies to the inverse. This sound is way, way stronger than anything else anywhere near it, yet not only is it the exact same SV as 00:35:737 (1) - but it is also a less complex and much easier slider to hit, with lower spacing moving into it as well. I'm not sure about what did you just say, but long parts of beats like long sliders such as these 00:35:737 (1,1) - needs the balanced length of its sliders for the exceptional wub.
(idk what)
00:39:851 (1,2) - You haven't used perfect stacking on anything in this section prior to this, I do not recommend you start at such an arbitrary part of the music. Not sure although the stacking is quite fine. In my laptop it's unallowed and kinda hard to put a perfect stacking leaving it a single bits of uneven pixels on the stacking. (hm)
00:40:108 (2,1) - You use way, way higher-octane patterns consistently before and after this with 1/4 time gaps. People are bound to misread this repeatedly considering how inconsistent its spacing is relative to the rest of the map. I disagree as people quickly often react to music and visual (the approach circle) but plainfully reading the objects without looking at the approach circle would been pretty sleepy.
00:40:794 (1,2,3,4) - As cool as it is, as I stated before, this is not introduced previously in the section, and the same sound is often mapped in a much less difficult way to play. This is, once again, an inconsistency and an unmerited difficulty spike. Disagree since based on 00:22:880 (1,2,3) - but at this case it's hard because on the tendency of playing the wavy stream, i decided to make it smoother.
00:44:480 (1,1) - I like this cancellation of motion a lot. Nothing wrong here, just wanted to point out that it's a cool use of player movement. :DdDDdD everyone likes thi s
00:45:165 (2) - This section is almost entirely curved sliders, switching to sharp anchors and straight sliders mid-pattern is suboptimal. I'd just make this straight and let the much more natural transition after 00:45:337 - occur. I would just think by adding the sharp-anchor-slider it'll be great (it's a new type for curve sliders too) and also the player would be easier to aim after that.
00:54:937 (1) - Why only place this on 2 of the 3 ascending piano notes? Just make this a reverse to capture all 3 of them, or add a circle. Actually, i didn't listen on that.
01:05:908 - This entire section feels really, really forced. ye i'm just showing my love into the song but i'm not ruining it so yea
Everything I point out after this is just being redundant, but these same issues exist throughout the map in much the same form.
-In this map, Ameth shows technical mastery of the editor and his ability to make cool-looking patterns, while also failing to introduce complex, unusual, and difficult concepts to the player before going all-out with them. The map also makes extreme changes to its representation of sounds (see- huge changes in SV), even when these sounds are similar or the same. The map is fundamentally flawed in that it completely disregards representation of intensity in favor of utilizing the song as some sort of vehicle to convey cool ideas. I would readily compare it to byfar's mapping, in that it doesn't seem to follow the song, but rather manipulate the song to fit style, which in my eyes, like some things I pointed out in the map, is ass backwards. The buildup is full of forced SV changes and the buildup after the break all seems far, far more overdone than it needs to be. Overall, the map looks very cool, but does a criminally poor job of representing the music it's mapped to.Thanks for the mod though, it's kind of helpful to point me out the bad things. I did introduce these complex & unusual-things to the map but hoping that they can understand them, and converting such as a heavy wubs into sv changes ideas was quite a hardwork. Quite surprised though what i wanted is not as what i hope, coming into byfar-side of mapping as i didn't very grab the attention to every aspects of mapping. (this diff was kinda outdated for my mapping ye )
Thank you guysHaruto wrote:
Ameth's Extreme
Modding this in indonesian so i can explain things fluently.Okay. To be honest, im not quite sure about Ameth's diff. Its Cool, its a very nice technical map. But, like what have Mun said. Ameth fails to introduce complex, unusual and difficult concepts to the player before going all-out with them. Aside from that, emphasizing is quite a bit, various i guess? Well various as in term of, doesnt run as consistent as how others would expect. You could always try replacing emphasize with flowbreak instead if you ran out of idea. But still, this is my most favorited diff on this set. Thanks for modding and thanks for the end words too c:
- 00:02:822 (3) - SV change disini kayaknya ga diperlukan deh kak. Well, bukannya ga diperlukan sih, mungkin bisa di decrease lagi velocitynya cuz, kecepatan slidernya saat ini aneh banget imo, ga sesuai sama bagian musiknya. Coba set SV greenline di 00:02:822 - jadi 0.70, kecepatan slidernya bakal kerasa lebih natural imo. // Note : Beberapa bagian ada yang sama kek gini SV multipliernya, mungkin selanjutnya kaka bisa cari sendiri bagian2 itu~. Explained above of this mod.
- 00:04:880 (1) - The same thing as how i explained above. Mungkin boleh juga nyoba sesuatu yang bervariasi disini. Dengan maksud SVnya yang bervariasi lol.^
- 00:05:394 (1) - Unnecessary New Combo here. Gimana kalo NCnya dipindah ke 00:05:565 - bagian ini aja? ditambah, bagian itu downbeat jadi kerasa lebih natural gitu wkwk. Not really, i would start a NC on a single pattern so it doesn't overwhelming the overall looks.
- 00:16:022 (2) - Pindah ke 247|62 mungkin? jadi supaya line atau follow point dari 00:15:680 (1) - ke 00:16:022 (2) - keliatan straight gitu dan ga bengkok wkwk. Fixed through
- 00:22:022 (1) - Bakal lebih baik kalau ini diextend jadi 1/2. Oiya, mungkin kaka mau ubah juga kecepatan SV di 00:22:022 - jadi 1.00 (Normal) jadi lebih enak gitu dan ga kerasa kecepatan atau kelambatan. Well, your choice though. Dan tentu saja, kalo slider (1) diextend jadi 1/2. Otomatis kaka harus remove 00:22:194 (2) - lol. I want to try raising the intensity on this part and also doing something new on a startup.
- 00:22:708 (2,1,2) - The spacing could be a bit more evens or various. Menurut aku ini sedikit membingungkan. Lebih baik kaka coba sesuatu kek ini. Current spacing antara 1/4 di 00:22:537 (1,2) - sama 00:22:880 (1,2,3) - ga noticable tbh. Jadi yaa, lebih baik dibesarkan/lebarkan lagi spacingnya lol Did some change since i just changed my mind so why not
- 00:30:251 (1,1) - Almost unrankable karena slider 00:30:251 (1) - nutupin reverse di slider 00:30:937 (1) - . Coba ubah penempatan slider 00:30:251 (1) - ke tempat yang jauh lebih noticable. walah sliderend sama sliderheadnya udah tindih-tindihan gitu masa unrankable, bahkan circle yang ngestack pun bisa dirank :c
- 00:35:051 (1) - Literally offscreen (bagian slider yg paling atas) Should be not offscreen according to the visual panel of the editor. http://puu.sh/vLI2c/90e0d34f50.jpg
- 00:45:851 (1) - Potentionally offscreen. Would be better if this is moved a lil a bit. ^ http://puu.sh/vLI40/6272ede13c.jpg
- 01:08:480 (1,1) - Emphasis. 01:08:480 (1) - Imo ini bisa diplace lebih jauh dari 01:08:651 (1) - Supaya penekannya kerasa. Also, 01:08:480 (3) - this seems to be an unnecessary new combo. On the more side of my vision it's more likely underemphasized, so i make it closer a bit. Doesn't need an addition of emphasize though. The new combo for sv change ;o
- 01:14:137 (1) - Bagian wavenya seems a lil bit fuked lo. :tHINK :THokn :tHENK:
- Speaking of 01:14:137 (1) - , menurut aku slider ini lebih baik jadi 1/1 slider (di decrease ke 01:15:165 - ) Karena kalau jadi 1/4. Spacing dari slider ini ke slider berikutnya itu ga banget imo. Gimana ya.. imo berlebihan sih tapi itu pendapat aku aja. Ya doublecheck lagi aja, coba ask testplay orang2. Kalau mau tetap 1/4. Jarak dari slider ini ke slider berikutnya agak didekatkan aja. On a playability wise, it should be fine if it's not a transitioning jumping circles on a 1/4 snapping, a player should be fine reaching this size of 1/4 jump. (lowcombo used to play this alot lmao and he did it)
- 01:15:851 (3,4,1,2) - Feels better if these were mapped with circles instead of a slider tbh. But that shouldnt be a problem as this is just my suggestion.
but you could always change if you want~ If we're talking about startups it's more cooler on changing SV sliders in a structure :^)- 01:29:051 (1,2,3) - Nazi, stacks are off. agfadgfdgdafhafgfaasfafs what
- 01:44:308 (1,2) - Kak, ini spacingnya terlalu berlebihan imo. Karena apa? bagian ini sedikit kalem dan pelan menurut aku. Semestinya spacing gak harus lebar2/atau besar2 kek gini :sob: Xd
- 01:49:280 (2) - Unnecessary NC. i want it :C
- 01:49:280 (2,1) - Spacing is too wide, doesnt fit with the music at all imo Indeed it doesn't fit with the music but i'm trying to make the climax itself, although 1/2 snapping gap was quite enough for a player given a time to move.
Thanks a ton! I will consider getting a couple more mods especially for Ameth's difficulty and I will hit you up after some changes have been made. Also waiting for Hobbes' reply on previous mods.Monstrata wrote:
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00:40:108 (2) - offscreen whoops
00:52:194 (1) - Positioning to the left of 4 fits your V movement a bit better. true, changed
01:21:680 (6,7,8,9) - I wish you could have organized these a bit more cohesively. Maybe bring slider 7 a bit closer and try for an off/axis symmetrical pattern with 9. Like this:
alright now slider 7 has exactly 60 degrees difference (and got crtl+g too) than 9 so it's not as random now
01:32:994 (6,7,1) - The 1/4 jump here is realy sudden and I don't think its fell supported in the music You could just delet 7. deleted 7
Okay, so regarding the patterns namely 00:33:337 (2,3,4) - 00:38:822 (2,3,4) - 00:44:308 (2,3,4) - 00:49:794 (2,3,4) - the sound on the first blue tick is weaker than the other ones. At least from what I hear, the wub sound on the white tick lasts for 1/2 and the two 1/4s that follow are more hearable. I will ask some more people too in case I fail to hear it correctly, if more people say that all those sound the same then I will change them.
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Other diffs I think I can just mod them with the recheck cuz they seem more or less ready. Highest diff could use some more work though I think. Let me know how this goes. I guess you can poke me for a recheck after like maybe 2-3 more mods? Or when the issues I brought up on the highest diff have been properly explained and/or the mapper thinks theyve been adequately resolved.
Monstrata wrote:
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Nokashi's Insane
00:36:765 (2) - Ctr;+G plays really well imo. And makes it easier to read // Nice catch! Fixed!
00:39:508 (2) - Use two 1/4 sliders instead. This doesn't really call for a repeat, especially since 00:39:508 (2) - becomes empty. // I find it nice to differentiate this sound sample with other samples i use plain 1/4 sliders on cause its musically different. The higher SV is enough to accentuate the sound here imo
00:44:994 (2) - ^etc... // However here you are right ! Will also recheck if this sound is expressed with a reverse again
01:24:080 (2,6) - Try using the same slider shape for both. Creates a more consistent design // Done
01:27:680 (6) - kickslider felt unnecessary here // Yup i agree, sticked to just one circle instead
Thanks for the mod!
thanks for modding!Wikozo wrote:
Nm from my queue
[CookieBite's Normal]Very good map! Good luck
- changed bpm on sliders in normal is not really good // don't have any bpm changes on my diff
- 00:00:080 (1) - shape of this slider is not really good // i don't understand your standard of "good" sorry
Thank you for moddingWikozo wrote:
Nm from my queue
[Easy]Very good map! Good luck
- 00:14:308 (1) - why you don't start this slider on 00:14:137 and end on 00:14:651 // like this slider 00:15:680 (3) to be consistent with the other rhythms of the same sections, I don't think it's really needed anyway is it xd
- on 01:04:194 you can add circle on clear sound no other difficulties do it, the whole piano section is supposed to be a break
The current kiai is where the melody distinguishes the song, plus it's where the preview point is so.. yet I could add mini kiai effects in the wub part to intensify it more as well!F1r3tar wrote:
You should move the kiai into the wub section since that has the most dense rhythms and the hardest patterns.
But yeah, disgustingly good map. Have the bn boys look at it.
Thank you so much! Actually it is helpful.Monstrata wrote:
Ameth's Extreme
Your intro... Can you give me some more logic as to where you use speed ups and SV increases? Yes, the entire SV increases thingy in this part points out the song notes where they increases after the low notes on before. This effect itself was pretty effective that it suggests the player to be more energetic even at an intro, where it could made from SV increases. As example, 00:02:822 (3) - . This object increases SV pertaining the new piano sound that notes very high that even it needs to be SV-increased. 00:04:880 (1) - , snare like this on object like these have to be SV-increased again since the drum escalates very high. And another case that somehow some groups couldn't understand like the connection between 00:06:594 (1,1) - , 00:06:594 (1) - this was sounded like it's blank but after that it goes into drum which is pretty suggestive to be SV-increased. Then another similar case like 00:07:622 (1,2) - , they were made to raise the tensity on 00:08:308 (2) - so that the SV-increase could be even clearer. So that's it, made this pretty long since people were couldn't understand what i'm trying to propose in this entire part.
00:02:822 (3) - Not really getting why this needs an SV change. It's the piano itself.
00:06:594 (1) - And this isn't actually mapping to anything,,, you should extend 00:06:251 (1) - to a longer slider.. This is a really similar matter for 00:09:337 (1) - , drum on this one explains everything on this.
00:10:880 (1) - Repeat arrow is really hard to see. stack with the head instead of the repeat. That's very weird if people can't notice the repeat arrow if the object that stacked before is disappeared so quickly. It's readable just from 00:10:537 (2) - you can already see the arrow.
00:11:908 (3,1,2) - This is the intro. Don't use jumps like this... The intensity itself is kinda messed up on the part so why not.
00:17:051 (2,3) - ^ Tried to stack this on 00:17:051 (2) - , it works.
00:18:422 (3,1) - ^ etc... you aren't reflecting the calmness of the intro with your spacing and thats a problem. Not a very big problem since given the very slow velocity on this one where people could land properly into the following object so people don't miss on this one. Edit: Perhaps I was just following the long slider here rather than focusing into spacing, somehow this long slider is really getting strength on emphasize to transit them into the "whom" sound (the large tick on 2/1) so that's where
00:19:794 (2,3) - ^ etc... Changed.
00:30:937 (1) - Repeat is completely obstructed and unrankable. I get that from now, changed.
00:31:622 (1,2,3) - Flows really poorly. Ctrl+G 3, and restack 2 on the new hear. Did the applies and reversed 00:31:622 (1) - to improve the playability a little bit more.
00:32:480 (1) - The length of the slider makes you want to do a downward movement, but thats counterintuitive to the flow. Assuming you apply my previous suggestion (you should!!) do this and it'll play really nicely. I just found out that this kind of slider was incompatible for the structure so i did a curve slider that aims to the following object.
00:34:365 (1,2) - You're really overestimating slider leniency. Catching this is really hard. Make it closer, don't do such a large jump Did some change.
00:44:994 (1,2) - Use the same slider design? Nah, precisely that they do the same "raw movement" like these patterns that looked like a curve move. I would be need for a variety to increase the overall looking itself so i made a different one but the same.
00:54:422 (1,2) - Ctrl+G makes a world of difference in flow imo. Ctrl+g'ing will create a rotational flow. Instead what you have right now is a zigzagging flow that causes the player to have to move downward after clicking 2. They have to do this movement really quickly since the slider is below 2. But then they have to move upward really quickly. Ctrl+G allows you to play the pattern in one clockwise motion, and you don't break flow from 2>1. I would say that the problem isn't a very problematic problem, 00:54:594 (1) - is very accessible on some cases that people won't like to move alot since it will tire them alot, so there isn't any proof that people will go confused and go to another direction instead. On a discussion flow of this, this pattern would reminds you to the symbol on this slider shape 00:54:594 (1) - so i think it would be good.
Okay, I think this diff needs some more work. Go throgh what I mentioned and try and apply it to the rest of the diff. The map is pretty well desined, but it has its flaws, and abuses 1/4 jumps and slider leniency too much. The map playability peak intensity turns toward the abuses (i wouldn't call it an abuse since it's the actual use for it) but player can did them like 1/2 high BPM jumps, but yet there's some 1/2 break like everywhere in the kiai. I will eventually apply another problem that people confuses about, especially in some very hard jump.