Made a few suggestions via IRC. Mostly just spacing/hitsounding. Pointed out that timing could be improved.
Pretty neat marathon, actually.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Best of luck!
IRC log
10:52 PolkaMocha: Hey there heart throb are you taking mod reqs rn
10:53 Bakari: yeah, I have 0 maps to mod rn
10:53 PolkaMocha: oh perfect
10:53 *PolkaMocha is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1002859 Kazumi Totaka, Manaka Kataoka, and Atsuko Asahi - 12 A.M. ~ 6 A.M. [Twilight]]
10:54 PolkaMocha: If you accept dont mod the metadata tho cuz I need to fix that ouo
10:54 PolkaMocha: and if you need a mod in return just hmu
10:56 Bakari: I've tried checking metadata with one of these sets
10:56 Bakari: it was something deep and dark
10:56 Bakari: nobody had a clear idea of what was up with it
10:56 PolkaMocha: animal crossing?!
10:56 PolkaMocha: Oh
10:56 PolkaMocha: yeah
10:56 PolkaMocha: rip
10:57 PolkaMocha: We decided on one of my map forums
10:57 PolkaMocha: after arguing forever
10:57 PolkaMocha: they just list two kiddos in the credits under MUSIC
10:57 PolkaMocha: and thats it so ive just been using them
10:57 PolkaMocha: but this metadata is wrong I gotta fixxu
10:57 Bakari: oh
10:57 Bakari: a storyboard
10:58 PolkaMocha: YA
10:58 PolkaMocha: FOR ONCE
10:59 Bakari: should I do an IRC check?
10:59 Bakari: or do you prefer a regular mod on the forum?
11:00 PolkaMocha: Uhhhhhhhhhh
11:00 PolkaMocha: if its easier for you to IRC we can do that
11:01 Bakari: it doesn't really matter for me, pick whatever way you prefer
11:01 PolkaMocha: irc is cool
11:01 PolkaMocha: lemme shut my other conversations up one sec
11:02 PolkaMocha: OKIE DOKE
11:02 Bakari: "hey, dude, that's a nice chat now get the hell out of here, imma do some irc modding"
11:02 *PolkaMocha is away: IRC mod but type anyway Ill look when Im done @u@
11:02 PolkaMocha: Lmao basically
11:02 PolkaMocha: alrighty
11:02 Bakari: you actually did that, wow
11:02 Bakari: alright, starting with the SB stuff
11:02 PolkaMocha: HAJIMEMASHOU
11:02 PolkaMocha: Yeah lel
11:02 Bakari: since you use scaled 4:3 background
11:03 PolkaMocha: Wait
11:03 PolkaMocha: SB isnt mine
11:03 PolkaMocha: idk if I should take mods for it ;-;
11:03 PolkaMocha: Here Ill juust take notes and pass along
11:03 PolkaMocha: continue mb
11:03 Bakari: oh, is it still wip, btw?
11:04 PolkaMocha: Yah
11:04 Bakari: they might fix it later, anyways
11:04 Bakari: let's move on
11:04 Bakari: boring general stuff
11:04 PolkaMocha: okie doke
11:05 Bakari: you really shouldn't mute both sliderslide and slidertick
11:05 Bakari: if players can't hear a slider, why would you place it?
11:05 PolkaMocha: Your right
11:05 PolkaMocha: I might take that out
11:05 PolkaMocha: *meant to
11:05 Bakari: aimod unsnapped stuff
11:05 PolkaMocha: WHich once should I get rid of
11:06 Bakari: it depends
11:06 Bakari: I'd keep the sliderslide
11:06 Bakari: so, that we could hear ticks
11:06 Bakari: a few ticks every now and then are okay, constant background noise produced by sliders isn't
11:07 PolkaMocha: I kepts slider slide
11:07 PolkaMocha: fixed snappy business
11:08 Bakari: I just realized
11:08 Bakari: that someone actually wrote these pieces of music
11:08 Bakari: in case somebody plays the game at 3 am
11:09 PolkaMocha: LMAO
11:10 Bakari: 00:11:205 (5) - shouldn't the slider be longer?
11:10 Bakari: 00:11:602 - like untill here
11:11 PolkaMocha: Uhhhh maybe
11:11 PolkaMocha: I just didnt want to have people be confused
11:11 PolkaMocha: on how long to hold it
11:11 PolkaMocha: but okay I dragged it out until 00:11:514
11:12 Bakari: I'm kinda confused with snapping stuff in general
11:12 PolkaMocha: Yeah me too
11:12 Bakari: like it works, but there's 1/16 snapping :V
11:12 PolkaMocha: 12 am was a weird timing
11:13 PolkaMocha: Im just going to wait until a timing QAT finds their way here and barks at me
11:13 PolkaMocha: because Ive given up trying to find help
11:13 Bakari: 00:14:161 (5,7) - then these are noticeably off
11:13 Bakari: try poking pishifat
11:13 PolkaMocha: Slow down the playback I dont think so
11:13 PolkaMocha: OH
11:13 PolkaMocha: THEY ARER
11:13 PolkaMocha: Fixed
11:14 PolkaMocha: I scooted (5) and (6) a tad to the right
11:14 PolkaMocha: and they sound okay now
11:14 Bakari: 00:22:014 (1,2) - these two could be a slider
11:14 PolkaMocha: I had that but it looked complicated
11:14 PolkaMocha: Ill add it back
11:14 Bakari: so players don't have to readjust in the middle of a stream
11:15 Bakari: slider will work as a single circle here
11:15 Bakari: with the only difference of making the second sound
11:15 PolkaMocha: Okay
11:15 PolkaMocha: Added back
11:16 Bakari: 00:42:870 - the beat is fairly strong, could use an individual clickable circle
11:16 Bakari: you'd have to mute (3)'s tail, though
11:17 PolkaMocha: Mmmm I'll leave it for now because I like the simplicity
11:17 Bakari: this would also help you to get rid of the slidertick, which doesn't sound quite natural
11:17 PolkaMocha: Actually
11:17 PolkaMocha: I think I kept the silent tick
11:17 Bakari: and this would be consistent with 00:45:109 (4,5) -
11:18 PolkaMocha: Well those are two different rhythms
11:18 PolkaMocha: Im going to keep this because Id like to keep things simple for this part
11:18 PolkaMocha: Ill keep the idea in mind though
11:18 Bakari: 00:48:691 (3) - i will mention that as well just for the sake of making the log longer
11:18 PolkaMocha: lol
11:18 Bakari: in case you ever get back to this, remember that this requires the same change :p
11:19 PolkaMocha: got it
11:20 Bakari: 00:56:303 (4) - there are three individual notes and theyt are louder/higher than the previous ones. try to use circles? http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/nSyI8lZ2.jpg
11:20 PolkaMocha: Well I already used circles before that so I feel it will be overkill
11:20 PolkaMocha: Plus I like how the slider captures how the notes feel slightly held
11:21 Bakari: nothing is an overkill on 67 BPM :p
11:21 Bakari: alrighty, as long as you like it
11:21 Bakari: we have no problem
11:21 PolkaMocha: \o/
11:21 Bakari: 01:10:183 (3) - I'd really prefer just a single whistle
11:21 PolkaMocha: Ill keep it in mind for when others potentially bring it up
11:21 Bakari: 01:17:348 (3) - same whistle thing
11:21 PolkaMocha: I agree but using the hitsounds to their full capability is important
11:22 Bakari: oh
11:22 PolkaMocha: They are meant to animate the map and give it some pizazz
11:22 Bakari: we can try to get that finish thing and make it quieter
11:22 PolkaMocha: So I feel by adding that, it makes this part feel more original then the rest of the whistley bits, and is a nice unique way to finish the part
11:22 PolkaMocha: I can turn it it down though yeah
11:22 Bakari: yeah
11:23 Bakari: actually I'd go for something fancy here
11:23 Bakari: keep the volume, so the whistle is just as loud as it is now
11:23 Bakari: and add a custom finish hitsound with reduced volume
11:23 PolkaMocha: Okay so what I did was
11:24 Bakari: so there is some soft echo-like finish hitsound
11:24 PolkaMocha: I thought keeping the whistle quuiet would be cool too
11:24 PolkaMocha: so all of the finishes got reduced to 30
11:24 PolkaMocha: and the really quiet one got reduced to 20
11:24 PolkaMocha: however the other parts in between are still at 40
11:25 PolkaMocha: It sounds way better and less brash
11:25 Bakari: works as well, nice
11:26 PolkaMocha: \o/
11:27 Bakari: 02:20:885 (6,1) - I'd give these two some increase in spacing, so they don't overlap
11:27 Bakari: kinda like 5-6
11:28 PolkaMocha: 02:20:885 (6) - was a jump
11:28 PolkaMocha: so I went back to normal spacing\
11:28 PolkaMocha: plus ths was a pretty edgy design so spacing them out makes them a little too out of my style
11:28 Bakari: you know that slider to slider jumps are way easier to hit, right?
11:29 PolkaMocha: Yeah
11:29 Bakari: I mean you can drop the slider at practically any moment and still get a 300
11:29 PolkaMocha: Im just syaing I dont want to jump if I dont need to
11:29 Bakari: fair enough
11:29 PolkaMocha: If I spaced those out, they would be inconsistent with all of the other notes within the same prosimity getting overlapped
11:30 PolkaMocha: *proximity
11:30 PolkaMocha: and I would get shit for that too so ouo;
11:31 Bakari: I don't think anyone would ever complain about a few minor spacing changes at this bpm :D
11:31 Bakari: anyway, moving on
11:31 Bakari: 02:41:876 (2) - this is for whoever checks the timing next
11:31 PolkaMocha: Tru, but I dont agree when people say you can be lazier because its lower bpm
11:31 PolkaMocha: Ok
11:31 Bakari: yes it works and the slidertick doesn't show up in-game
11:32 PolkaMocha: It sounds find to me but mmk
11:32 Bakari: but it makes the slider pretty heavy in terms of accuracy
11:32 PolkaMocha: 02:41:876 (2) - ?
11:32 Bakari: yeah
11:32 PolkaMocha: How is this heavy
11:32 Bakari: for some reason players don't see, they are required to hold it untill the end
11:32 PolkaMocha: the OD is really low
11:33 PolkaMocha: Well I feel the OD is a low enough that they wont take a major hit from this tbh
11:33 PolkaMocha: And I really have no idea how to fix it to be more precise ouo;
11:33 Bakari: just for testing purposes set the tickrate to 0,5 and drop the slider earlier
11:33 Bakari: then try the same with tick rate 1
11:34 PolkaMocha: idk how
11:34 Bakari: it's just an extra comment on why we should check timings
11:34 PolkaMocha: OH for whoever reads this
11:34 PolkaMocha: @no one
11:34 Bakari: just point that out
11:34 PolkaMocha: k
11:35 Bakari: if anyone says that the timing doesn't need to be checked
11:35 PolkaMocha: Oh ok
11:35 Bakari: 03:02:498 (4) - try to reduce the volume on the clap? the sound gets kinda cut off
11:36 PolkaMocha: okay
11:36 PolkaMocha: reduced to 35
11:37 Bakari: I've actually started putting some effort into hitsounding less than a year ago
11:37 Bakari: so I am still quite new to this whole thing
11:37 PolkaMocha: I put effort I think
11:37 PolkaMocha: starting yesterday
11:38 Bakari: 03:10:655 (2,3) - try to space them a bit closer, s they are not misread as something like 03:09:077 (5,6) -
11:38 PolkaMocha: spaced with DS
11:38 Bakari: 03:16:971 (2) - same thing about reducing volume
11:39 PolkaMocha: reduced
11:39 Bakari: http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/XkjlvycB.jpg you could try sometihng like this
11:39 PolkaMocha: oh ok
11:41 Bakari: 04:15:184 (2,3) - being the only stack in this part it feels pretty random
11:41 PolkaMocha: Well I couldnt space them out in a way that wouldnt make them ugly
11:41 Bakari: http://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/C6H2NpRB.jpg
11:41 PolkaMocha: and another slider would have just been crowded
11:42 Bakari: some spicy tilted square
11:42 PolkaMocha: okay
11:42 PolkaMocha: Yeah thats hot im down
11:43 Bakari: 04:43:178 (4,1) - this being the only jump in this part feels quite weird
11:43 PolkaMocha: isnt really a jump
11:43 Bakari: can we introduce a few smaller jumps on the downbeats before, so it gets more consistent?
11:43 PolkaMocha: you dont even have to move in the sliders direction to play it
11:43 PolkaMocha: Ummm... that'd be a lot of work to re sound and all
11:44 PolkaMocha: Ill keep it unless more modders point it out
11:44 Bakari: that'd require just moving a few combos a few grids on the left/right, actually
11:44 Bakari: but yeah, you decide
11:45 Bakari: 05:13:930 - try to lower the volume here? it gets quiet mid-slider
11:46 PolkaMocha: There really is no where to move things around to make a nice jump, and to be fair, it really doesnt play like one
11:46 Bakari: then let's keep it as it is, as long as you are happy with the way it works
11:46 PolkaMocha: done
11:46 PolkaMocha: okay
11:47 PolkaMocha: done for the slider volume I mean
11:47 PolkaMocha: I gradually lowered it by 10 every 1/4 tick
11:47 Bakari: 05:40:477 (2) - and maybe mute the tail here?
11:47 Bakari: by mute I men a 5% volume at the tail
11:47 Bakari: 05:44:095 (2) - same
11:47 PolkaMocha: ok
11:48 Bakari: ok, that's about it
11:48 PolkaMocha: yaaaay
11:48 Bakari: just the timing stuff that really confuses me
11:48 Bakari: everything else is okay
11:48 PolkaMocha: me too
11:48 PolkaMocha: I think what happened was
11:48 PolkaMocha: Me and some buddies got it timed right
11:48 PolkaMocha: and then I cut the mp3 from 8 minutes to 6
11:49 PolkaMocha: then to 5
11:49 PolkaMocha: so that caused me to re adjust a lot of them
11:49 PolkaMocha: and I think maybe some points got lost in transition idk
11:49 Bakari: could be so
11:49 Bakari: audio editing software tends to screw up timings
Pretty neat marathon, actually.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Best of luck!