Mahogany wrote:
Well, when was the last time you heard about Scotland bombing somebody? I think the lesser amounts of crime in those places have a lot more behind them than simply conservatism. America, for one, has a fucked-up view of themselves and the rest of the world.
Bombing (I think you wanted to say meddling in world politics) has nothing to do with crime in the country and should not be used as an argument. Britain ruled over half of the world at its peak, meddled in ALL of world's affairs, yet you sure as fuck don't see Britain appearing in history books as a country filled with terrorism and high crime rates. Why? Well, they may have "owned" half the world, but they were still British on the actual British Isles. Therefore, kind of a moot point there.
Mahogany wrote:
Look at their fucked media for example, on both sides. Even when it comes to Japan, for example, you have to look at their relations with Korea; It would be far healthier to have more friendly relations - and therefore more mingling of both sides - rather than keeping hostile exclusionistic ideas that carry with them the idea of nationalism and war. I mean, a terrorist attack? Horrible, but very few people actually die. War? Deadly, and that's what these attitudes lead to.
Media is heavily polarized in every country all across the globe. Can't be used as an argument for America, since it's the same for everyone.
As for war - unless we're going back to 1800s, war has only ever been an outlet for an economically and politically struggling nation, not because people were "overly conservative". Being fanatic in that regard only correlates to war crimes, not the actual outbreak of the war and is thus, once again, a moot point.
Mahogany wrote:
I've visited Germany myself many, many times both before and after the whole immigrant thing. I have family in Germany. Literally nothing has changed there, at all. It's dramatization by the media, because that gets clicks. Germany has low crime rates because it's a well-developed country, not because it's homogeneous.
Where have you visited it? I visited Bavaria about a year ago and it is INCREDIBLY unstable when it comes to crime rate. Not only that, but those same immigrants are here, quite literally 100km from me and I've seen those too. Completely different, alien, culture that will NEVER assimilate with the dominant ones. It's practically the same with USA - cultures which can never merge, only attempt to coexist, thus causing a LOT of friction compared to countries with more cultural unity.
Mahogany wrote:
I kinda agree with you on the USA part, but I don't think that's quite the source of their crime problems. I think it has a lot to do with education and the media.
As I said above, I do agree with you that media is toxic and completely blows things out of proportion for their own gain, but every country's media is the same. Serbia has the same bullshit media coverage as the US or Hungary or Spain. Media as a whole is like that, so you can't take it out for a specific country to support a claim.
Mahogany wrote:
A culture that refuses to accept and adapt to changes will be wiped out. That's how the world works, and it's well deserved. But in the same manner, the major culture will acquire traits from the new members, and it constantly shifts over time: It's not set in stone and won't be the same forever.
Look at Bosnia. The dominant culture has historically always been Serbian, at times Croatian (depending on how the empires around grew and died), yet when the Ottomans conquered the place hundreds of years ago, they left converted Serbs/Croats who now identify themselves as a completely new culture with islam as their religion. They have yet to "assimilate", and they sure as fuck aren't dying out.
If you want to claim that the situation in Bosnia is special, lemme then take Serbian muslims as an example. In central Serbia, ever since the Ottomans left, you have muslims who refuse to assimilate, refuse to accept the Serbian culture (the most dominant one in the country), refuse to abide by the country's law and are practically a ticking time bomb, only waiting for the country to weaken so they can cause unrest.
You know how long that has been going on? Since the mid 1800s. They sure as fuck don't seem like they're going to adapt and the same is true for every other country.
They're way too different to fit in. They can attempt to coexist, but never merge with such a vastly different culture group, and THAT is the core of the problem USA faces and why the entire "immigrant" mindset is as it is right now.
I have nothing against other cultures and religions, heck, I actually liked pre-medieval islamic culture, but to say that we can live together without major issues is definitely something I will argue against no matter what, as it's been proven time and time again that it's wrong.