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Ryu - Sakura Mirage (Extended Mix) [OsuMania]

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Loebad434
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, May 01, 2017 at 6:31:22 PM

Artist: Ryu
Title: Sakura Mirage (Extended Mix)
Source: REFLEC BEAT groovin'!!
Tags: sdvx reflec beat ryu sakura chipcore
BPM: 200
Filesize: 12215kb
Play Time: 05:48
Difficulties Available:
  1. Downfall - 7Key (6.79 stars, 7715 notes)
Download: Ryu - Sakura Mirage (Extended Mix)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Protastic101
short irc before bancho died
2017-04-01 11:26 Loebad434: so... when there's someone asking abt modding a marathon map... whats ur reaction?
2017-04-01 11:26 Protastic101: link
2017-04-01 11:28 Loebad434: lol
2017-04-01 11:28 Loebad434: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1255509 Ryu - Sakura Mirage (Extend MIX)]
2017-04-01 11:28 Protastic101: hooo, 6.8*, great
2017-04-01 11:29 Loebad434: yeh dood
2017-04-01 11:30 Loebad434: but still need loads of mods
2017-04-01 11:30 Protastic101: imo, some of the chord streams are a bit overdone
2017-04-01 11:31 Protastic101: 01:39:600 - I mean, parts like this is where there's a large disparity between chart density vs song intensify
2017-04-01 11:31 Protastic101: intensity*
2017-04-01 11:31 Protastic101: 01:40:875 (100875|2,100950|1,101025|0,101100|1,101175|2,101250|3,101325|2,101400|1,101475|0,101550|1,101625|2,101700|3,101775|2,101850|1,101925|0) - also, this kind of stuff is aaaaaaaa
2017-04-01 11:31 Protastic101: the reason why stairs like that suck is due to how many direction changes there are in the stream so the player never has an opportunity to pick up momentum while playing, so you're breaking the flow pretty much every beat
2017-04-01 11:32 Loebad434: ah i see...
2017-04-01 11:32 Protastic101: Another reason is that it's really unbalanced since the left hand is getting all the strain and the right hand is just tapping 1/2 notes lightly
2017-04-01 11:33 Loebad434: but the later note was the revert side of it
2017-04-01 11:33 Loebad434: rest after
2017-04-01 11:33 Protastic101: 01:56:400 - stuff like in this measure is pretty good though since the direction changes only one every few beats or so
2017-04-01 11:33 Loebad434: oh wait :|
2017-04-01 11:33 Loebad434: ur rite
2017-04-01 11:33 Protastic101: The problem with reversing the pattern is that the weight is even overall, but the strain is all over the place which quickly drains stamina much faster than if you just had a slightly higher strain across both hands that was even
2017-04-01 11:34 Loebad434: 00:26:400 (26400|4) - so this actually better one?
2017-04-01 11:35 Protastic101: yeah, streams like that are 10/10
2017-04-01 11:35 Loebad434: i'm tryin not to hit 1/2 notes for the stream tbh
2017-04-01 11:35 Loebad434: is this ok?
2017-04-01 11:36 Protastic101: 02:32:100 (152100|2,152175|3,152250|4,152325|5) - I might also suggest you try and keep brackets spaced with two columns in between since it's easier to execute imo, so like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7712338
2017-04-01 11:36 Loebad434: 00:30:150 (30150|6,30300|6,30450|6,30600|6,30750|6,30900|6,31050|6,31200|6) - except this
2017-04-01 11:37 Loebad434: i agreed on that tbh... but sometimes im kinda thinkin of some variety of the pattern
2017-04-01 11:37 Loebad434: so..
2017-04-01 11:37 Protastic101: oh yeah, for stacks like that, I would definitely try to keep the weight off whichever hand is playing the stack, like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7712351
2017-04-01 11:38 Loebad434: so one hand stack
2017-04-01 11:38 Loebad434: noice noice
2017-04-01 11:39 Protastic101: basically, whenever you're purposely trying to force extra strain on the player's hands, try to keep a lot of the other weight off of it
2017-04-01 11:39 Loebad434: ok...
2017-04-01 11:40 Loebad434: 02:21:000 (141000|3,141075|4,141075|2,141150|3,141225|4,141225|2,141300|3,141375|4,141375|2,141450|3,141525|4,141525|2,141600|3) - how these?
2017-04-01 11:41 Protastic101: ACTION screams
2017-04-01 11:41 Protastic101: pls
2017-04-01 11:41 Protastic101: why
2017-04-01 11:42 Protastic101: this is like the equivalent of a diamond pattern in 4k, it's cancer, kill it reeeeeeeee
2017-04-01 11:42 Protastic101: You have
2017-04-01 11:42 Protastic101: so many other columns to work with
2017-04-01 11:42 Protastic101: and you decided to limit yourself to 3
2017-04-01 11:42 Protastic101: ACTION sad af
2017-04-01 11:42 Loebad434: lol
2017-04-01 11:43 Protastic101: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7712402 I'd suggest something like this instead where the flow is a bit more linear and easier to hit
2017-04-01 11:44 Protastic101: 02:22:275 (142275|3,142275|2,142350|4,142425|2,142425|3,142500|4,142575|3,142575|2,142650|4,142725|2,142725|3,142800|4) - this too, could you not D:
2017-04-01 11:44 Loebad434: left stack?
2017-04-01 11:44 Protastic101: idk
2017-04-01 11:44 Protastic101: I mean, tbh, I think the pattern would play better without the triples at all, but w/e
2017-04-01 11:45 Protastic101: 02:43:800 (163800|5,163800|6,163875|4,163875|3,163950|5,163950|6,164025|4,164025|3,164100|5,164100|6,164175|3,164175|4,164250|5,164250|6,164325|3,164325|4) - as a no space bar player, you are trying to kill me
2017-04-01 11:46 Protastic101: Idk, I'd consider checking out Len's Gourmet Chocolate map, it has a lot of patterning that you could take inspiration from
2017-04-01 11:46 Protastic101: but overall, I'd try to make the streams more linear and focus on matching map density with song intensity

Yeah, feel free to poke me again to continue irc if you want lol
kaythen
Hi! Thanks for asking me to mod your map!
I can barely pass your map so this mod will be pretty bad, sorry.

00:22:95 - There's a clap sound here while 00:22:800 (22800|0,22800|6) - doesn't have the clap sound, yet there's the same amount of notes present. I understand your style but I think you could add another note where the clap in present in this one since it's not a significant part of the song (by that I mean it's like the "resting" part of the song).
00:23:250 (23250|6,23250|0) - same^^^
00:23:550 (23550|2,23550|4) - ^^
00:23:700 (23700|1,23700|5) - This has the finish in it, so maybe this can be 4 notes?

02:06:000 - okayy from here 'til 02:20:400 I think it could use less notes since it's the resting bit of the song.
I feel like you should follow the accompanying percussion more closely in this bit (kind of like what I've suggested above in that section).
So make melody note = 1
When you hear the clap e.g. 02:14:250 (134250|0,134250|2) - add an extra note so it should total 2 (+1 melody +1 clap)
02:10:500 (130500|5,130500|2,130500|3) - You can hear a finish here so add more notes (+1 or +2)

Obviously you don't have to follow exactly what I have suggested, but it'd be nice to tone down the notes in that section.
Same goes with this section because it's the same 04:46:800 - 05:01:200

There's nothing else I can really add to it.
So I'm sorry this mod isn't very good, but I hope you can make some use of it.
It's a fun map though, very nice.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Loebad434
*Quote this and that*

I appriciate ur mod Kaythen :D :D :D applied some and will be considered later abt the other
Another Lie
Req mod dari fb
Diff
00:13:200 (13200|0,13200|2,13350|1,13350|3,13500|2,13500|4,13650|3,13650|5,13800|4,13800|6,13950|3,13950|5,14100|2,14100|4,14250|1,14250|3) - kalo menurut gw ya, lebih enak jadi ini https://puu.sh/v7u4j.png
00:46:200 (46200|3,46350|3) - saran delete
00:49:950 (49950|2,49950|3,50100|1,50100|2,50250|0,50250|1) - jadiin gini biar konsisten https://puu.sh/v7uoM.png
00:50:700 (50700|3) - pindah ke col 1, biar balance sama 00:50:400 (50400|5,50400|4,50400|6) -
00:52:350 (52350|2,52350|3,52500|3,52500|4,52650|1,52650|0) - tuker tempat jadi gini https://puu.sh/v7uyK.png
00:55:500 (55500|3) - pindah col 1, balance sama 00:55:200 (55200|5,55200|4,55200|6) -
02:04:275 (124275|1,124350|2,124425|3) - wut is dis? mending disamain kyk bawahnya, itung itung break. daripada pattern bingungin?
03:36:300 (216300|3) - pindah col 7, balance sama 03:36:000 (216000|0,216000|2,216000|1) -
Done
Topic Starter
Loebad434
updated... ty for mod

Another Lie wrote:

00:13:200 (13200|0,13200|2,13350|1,13350|3,13500|2,13500|4,13650|3,13650|5,13800|4,13800|6,13950|3,13950|5,14100|2,14100|4,14250|1,14250|3) - kalo menurut gw ya, lebih enak jadi ini https://puu.sh/v7u4j.png
Nope...
Koibenii
Hi! Nice bump on my modding queue lmao

Mod requested from my queue

Testplay: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7744833

[General]
I would suggest renaming the song title to "Sakura Mirage (Extended Mix)" Source: https://remywiki.com/Seventh_Heaven

I would suggest to change the background and find a better quality (e.g. 1920x1080 sized wallpapers with 300dpi resolution but with .jpg as the format)

Would also suggest to put tag "chipcore" Source: https://remywiki.com/Sakura_Mirage

1|2|3|4|5|6|7


[Downfall]
Pretty much nothing to say here, except that it is a tiring map, but comfy patterns, but I would suggest to change the OD and HP to 8.5 since it is passable by mashing butans (like what I did at the testplay xdddddddddddd)

Would suggest to put kiai times at 01:02:400 to 01:11:400 and 01:12:000 to 01:21:600 and at similar-sounding sections at the latter parts of the map. I think the kiai would fit into these times because everywhere else in the map is just pure carnage and that there is little time for rest. The kiai times would represent the mellow parts of the song imo. Up to you to implement :)

01:08:550 (68550|6,68700|6,68850|6,69000|6) - the only note placement I don't get because I don't understand what they represent. I would suggest to try some variation since there are no repeating sounds here, unlike at 01:06:150 to 01:07:200. You could also apply this to similar sections.

Kiai time at 02:26:400 to 02:45:300 and at 02:45:600 to 03:04:800 hehe xd

03:24:000 onwards - I don't know what to feel about the copypasta lmao. I would suggest to vary the patterns used buuuuuut it would break the flow of the current patterns so welp.

04:55:350 (295350|0,295500|0,295650|0,295800|0,295950|0,296100|0,296250|0,296400|0) - maybe I would suggest to swap columns with the notes at [6] because ring finger jacks are hard to hit imo. Idk since the purpose of the the song is to be a "tiring" one maybe provide a few gaps in which the player could rest a little bit.

Last kiai part - 05:07:200 to 05:26:100 and 05:26:400 to 05:45:600. Idk if a kiai part should end the song. Up to you to apply :)

Okay I think that would be it for my mod. First time that I'd mod a marathon 7k map sooooo I hope that my mod helped. Also wanted to see this be ranked because of da peepeeeeeee. Goodluck!!
Topic Starter
Loebad434

JztCallMeRon wrote:

Hi! Nice bump on my modding queue lmao

Mod requested from my queue

Testplay: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7744833

[General]
I would suggest renaming the song title to "Sakura Mirage (Extended Mix)" Source: https://remywiki.com/Seventh_Heaven

I would suggest to change the background and find a better quality (e.g. 1920x1080 sized wallpapers with 300dpi resolution but with .jpg as the format)

Would also suggest to put tag "chipcore" Source: https://remywiki.com/Sakura_Mirage

1|2|3|4|5|6|7


[Downfall]
Pretty much nothing to say here, except that it is a tiring map, but comfy patterns, but I would suggest to change the OD and HP to 8.5 since it is passable by mashing butans (like what I did at the testplay xdddddddddddd)

Would suggest to put kiai times at 01:02:400 to 01:11:400 and 01:12:000 to 01:21:600 and at similar-sounding sections at the latter parts of the map. I think the kiai would fit into these times because everywhere else in the map is just pure carnage and that there is little time for rest. The kiai times would represent the mellow parts of the song imo. Up to you to implement :)

01:08:550 (68550|6,68700|6,68850|6,69000|6) - the only note placement I don't get because I don't understand what they represent. I would suggest to try some variation since there are no repeating sounds here, unlike at 01:06:150 to 01:07:200. You could also apply this to similar sections.

Kiai time at 02:26:400 to 02:45:300 and at 02:45:600 to 03:04:800 hehe xd

03:24:000 onwards - I don't know what to feel about the copypasta lmao. I would suggest to vary the patterns used buuuuuut it would break the flow of the current patterns so welp.

04:55:350 (295350|0,295500|0,295650|0,295800|0,295950|0,296100|0,296250|0,296400|0) - maybe I would suggest to swap columns with the notes at [6] because ring finger jacks are hard to hit imo. Idk since the purpose of the the song is to be a "tiring" one maybe provide a few gaps in which the player could rest a little bit.

Last kiai part - 05:07:200 to 05:26:100 and 05:26:400 to 05:45:600. Idk if a kiai part should end the song. Up to you to apply :)

Okay I think that would be it for my mod. First time that I'd mod a marathon 7k map sooooo I hope that my mod helped. Also wanted to see this be ranked because of da peepeeeeeee. Goodluck!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH UR MOD WAS REALLY HELPING ME... especially abt the general

and nice accuracy lol 88,88
Davin Fortune
Oke, try check this as soon i see post from fb

Ayy
00:05:250 - 00:06:000 - each the pitch goes down you can make them into 2 , do this until 00:09:600 -
00:13:650 - if the under of it already has 2 notes, then i think you should emphasize this by make it into 3 notes since it got voice in here which make it different to the other
00:15:600 (15600|0,15750|1,15750|4,15750|2,15900|6,15900|4,15900|2,16050|5,16050|4,16050|2,16200|0,16200|4,16200|2,16350|1,16350|4,16350|2,16500|3,16500|6,16500|2,16500|4,16650|5,16650|4,16650|2,16800|0) - kinda confused with this sudden changes in the pattern which this kind of sound is not really should emphasized with until make it into 3 notes, but if you want to keep it 3 notes then make this one to three notes too 00:10:950 (10950|2,10950|3,11100|6,11100|3,11250|4,11250|3,11400|1,11400|3,11550|2,11550|3,11700|5,11700|3,11850|4,11850|3) -
00:24:000 - this should be in 2 note since the 3 notes in here are already used as the sound like in 00:24:600 - 00:24:900 - etc...
00:27:600 - this should be 3 notes, since the sound after the stream are still the same and keep play it continously
00:28:500 - 00:28:800 - make it 4 notes since this line got more emphasize from clap and cymbal sound and this also xtreme diff so it's not prohibited stuff anyway
00:30:600 - 00:30:900 - 00:31:200 - keep consistent with the 3 notes pls
00:32:550 - You can try make this part like this just like make chord in 4k and flip in flip out something like that
00:33:600 - make it 4, like i say above
00:38:100 - this shouldn't be 3 notes since the beat that plays continously in the stream suddenly go missing there :(
00:38:400 - make it 4, like i say above
00:40:800 - just 2 note i guess
00:46:950 (46950|2,46950|3,46950|0,46950|1,47100|3,47100|4,47100|0,47100|1,47250|4,47250|5,47250|0,47250|1,47400|5,47400|6,47400|0,47400|1,47550|2,47550|4,47550|0,47550|1,47700|3,47700|5,47700|0,47700|1,47850|4,47850|6,47850|0,47850|1,48000|6,48000|5,48000|0,48000|1) - keep 3 notes for this instrument like the beginning part :'3
00:57:600 - till 00:59:700 - maybe it's okay to add some to the same instrument in consider that the song are playing faster than before that kind make player feel excited
01:29:700 - the notes that play beside the LN on this part that called as 3 notes didn't had by this note, so suggest make it 2 :3
01:56:400 (116400|6,116400|3,116400|0,116475|4,116475|1,116550|5,116550|2,116625|6,116625|3,116700|4,116700|1,116700|0,116775|6,116775|3,116850|5,116850|2,116925|4,116925|1,117000|6,117000|3,117000|0,117075|5,117075|2,117150|4,117150|1,117225|3,117225|0,117300|6,117300|5,117300|2,117375|3,117375|0,117450|4,117450|1,117525|5,117525|2,117600|0,117600|6,117600|3) - ummmm i think this part just like the part with the full of 1/2 snap 3 notes....
02:04:500 - make this into 3 notes like in 02:05:100 -
02:19:050 - remember if note got some other new instru like clap or cymbal you should emphasize it more than the other normal one
02:37:275 (157275|4,157350|1,157350|0,157350|5,157425|6,157500|3,157500|2,157500|5,157575|4,157650|6,157650|2,157650|3,157725|4,157800|0,157800|1,157800|5,157875|6,157950|1,157950|0,157950|5,158025|4,158100|6,158100|0,158100|3,158175|1,158175|4,158250|2,158250|5,158325|3,158325|6) - i think it's better if you make the stream has the reverse one, i mean when the song like reach 02:37:500 - it goes to the left and when go to 02:37:800 - it turn back to right again

Udah mungkin itu aja dulu, itu ak cmn nunjukkin 1 mistake yang bs kamu ke apply ke most pattern (kecuali untuk mod tertentu yang emg hanya untuk part itu saja)
Topic Starter
Loebad434

Davin Fortune wrote:

Oke, try check this as soon i see post from fb

Ayy
00:05:250 - 00:06:000 - each the pitch goes down you can make them into 2 , do this until 00:09:600 -
00:13:650 - if the under of it already has 2 notes, then i think you should emphasize this by make it into 3 notes since it got voice in here which make it different to the other
00:15:600 (15600|0,15750|1,15750|4,15750|2,15900|6,15900|4,15900|2,16050|5,16050|4,16050|2,16200|0,16200|4,16200|2,16350|1,16350|4,16350|2,16500|3,16500|6,16500|2,16500|4,16650|5,16650|4,16650|2,16800|0) - kinda confused with this sudden changes in the pattern which this kind of sound is not really should emphasized with until make it into 3 notes, but if you want to keep it 3 notes then make this one to three notes too 00:10:950 (10950|2,10950|3,11100|6,11100|3,11250|4,11250|3,11400|1,11400|3,11550|2,11550|3,11700|5,11700|3,11850|4,11850|3) -
00:24:000 - this should be in 2 note since the 3 notes in here are already used as the sound like in 00:24:600 - 00:24:900 - etc...
00:27:600 - this should be 3 notes, since the sound after the stream are still the same and keep play it continously
00:28:500 - 00:28:800 - make it 4 notes since this line got more emphasize from clap and cymbal sound and this also xtreme diff so it's not prohibited stuff anyway
00:30:600 - 00:30:900 - 00:31:200 - keep consistent with the 3 notes pls
00:32:550 - You can try make this part like this just like make chord in 4k and flip in flip out something like that
00:33:600 - make it 4, like i say above
00:38:100 - this shouldn't be 3 notes since the beat that plays continously in the stream suddenly go missing there :(
00:38:400 - make it 4, like i say above
00:40:800 - just 2 note i guess
00:46:950 (46950|2,46950|3,46950|0,46950|1,47100|3,47100|4,47100|0,47100|1,47250|4,47250|5,47250|0,47250|1,47400|5,47400|6,47400|0,47400|1,47550|2,47550|4,47550|0,47550|1,47700|3,47700|5,47700|0,47700|1,47850|4,47850|6,47850|0,47850|1,48000|6,48000|5,48000|0,48000|1) - keep 3 notes for this instrument like the beginning part :'3
00:57:600 - till 00:59:700 - maybe it's okay to add some to the same instrument in consider that the song are playing faster than before that kind make player feel excited
01:29:700 - the notes that play beside the LN on this part that called as 3 notes didn't had by this note, so suggest make it 2 :3
01:56:400 (116400|6,116400|3,116400|0,116475|4,116475|1,116550|5,116550|2,116625|6,116625|3,116700|4,116700|1,116700|0,116775|6,116775|3,116850|5,116850|2,116925|4,116925|1,117000|6,117000|3,117000|0,117075|5,117075|2,117150|4,117150|1,117225|3,117225|0,117300|6,117300|5,117300|2,117375|3,117375|0,117450|4,117450|1,117525|5,117525|2,117600|0,117600|6,117600|3) - ummmm i think this part just like the part with the full of 1/2 snap 3 notes....
02:04:500 - make this into 3 notes like in 02:05:100 -
02:19:050 - remember if note got some other new instru like clap or cymbal you should emphasize it more than the other normal one
02:37:275 (157275|4,157350|1,157350|0,157350|5,157425|6,157500|3,157500|2,157500|5,157575|4,157650|6,157650|2,157650|3,157725|4,157800|0,157800|1,157800|5,157875|6,157950|1,157950|0,157950|5,158025|4,158100|6,158100|0,158100|3,158175|1,158175|4,158250|2,158250|5,158325|3,158325|6) - i think it's better if you make the stream has the reverse one, i mean when the song like reach 02:37:500 - it goes to the left and when go to 02:37:800 - it turn back to right again

Udah mungkin itu aja dulu, itu ak cmn nunjukkin 1 mistake yang bs kamu ke apply ke most pattern (kecuali untuk mod tertentu yang emg hanya untuk part itu saja)
applied some~
Tolong bahasa inggrisnya dikondisikan mz... asli ga paham...
Davin Fortune

Loebad434 wrote:

applied some~
Tolong bahasa inggrisnya dikondisikan mz... asli ga paham...
Pm aja yang gak paham :D
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