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Arzenvald
bubbla!!
ok hype, thanks wawa <3
Sandalphon
The BG scares me
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

YaHao wrote:

The BG scares me
nuke

edit: gdi nuked
Sandalphon
Actually catch me if you see me online, want to do irc instead of thread mod xp
Sandalphon
USAUSAMIMI
2017-03-27 18:33 YaHao: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1184055 xi - Grand Chariot]
2017-03-27 18:34 ajeemaniz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183584 xi - Grand Chariot [Grand Crown]]
2017-03-27 18:34 ajeemaniz: caught any error in general stuff?
2017-03-27 18:34 YaHao: checking
2017-03-27 18:35 YaHao: nope
2017-03-27 18:36 ajeemaniz: 1920x1080 hype
2017-03-27 18:36 YaHao: hype
2017-03-27 18:36 ajeemaniz: anything else?
2017-03-27 18:36 YaHao: nah, checking pattern now
2017-03-27 18:37 ajeemaniz: even i'v done many rechecks, i always nervous with DQ
2017-03-27 18:37 YaHao: chill
2017-03-27 18:37 ajeemaniz: uwu!
2017-03-27 18:38 YaHao: 00:09:951 (9951|2,10187|2,10579|1) - want to swap the col so the 1/2 jack can place on diff hand with 00:09:323 (9323|3,9558|3) -
2017-03-27 18:38 YaHao: a little bit of contrast
2017-03-27 18:38 ajeemaniz: which diff
2017-03-27 18:39 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1184055 xi - Grand Chariot [Beginner]]
2017-03-27 18:39 ajeemaniz: done
2017-03-27 18:42 YaHao: ok next diff
2017-03-27 18:42 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183755 xi - Grand Chariot [Standard]]
2017-03-27 18:44 YaHao: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7669095
2017-03-27 18:44 YaHao: 00:41:365 -
2017-03-27 18:44 YaHao: how that look to you
2017-03-27 18:44 YaHao: easier to notice the different snap between
2017-03-27 18:45 ajeemaniz: nice
2017-03-27 18:45 ajeemaniz: nice
2017-03-27 18:45 YaHao: k
2017-03-27 18:46 YaHao: 00:53:302 (53302|0) - isnt this finish at 00:53:930 -
2017-03-27 18:46 YaHao: i can hear a new long sound here00:53:930 -
2017-03-27 18:46 ajeemaniz: should i short every ln on every diff
2017-03-27 18:47 ajeemaniz: *shorten
2017-03-27 18:47 YaHao: yea
2017-03-27 18:48 YaHao: 01:23:302 - not going to add note for main sound like you did 01:22:045 - 01:20:789 - ?
2017-03-27 18:49 ajeemaniz: my bad
2017-03-27 18:51 YaHao: next diff
2017-03-27 18:52 YaHao: btw, isnt that weird to use Beginner and Standard as diff name?
2017-03-27 18:52 YaHao: since the source is IIDX
2017-03-27 18:52 ajeemaniz: btw fixed the LN in all diffs
2017-03-27 18:52 YaHao: k cool
2017-03-27 18:52 ajeemaniz: hmm?
2017-03-27 18:52 ajeemaniz: should i rename?
2017-03-27 18:52 ajeemaniz: i following bms stuff
2017-03-27 18:53 YaHao: Beginner Normal Hyper Another
2017-03-27 18:53 ajeemaniz: so just rename standard to normal
2017-03-27 18:53 YaHao: but beginner with N icon and normal with H icon will be weird
2017-03-27 18:53 YaHao: hmmmmm
2017-03-27 18:53 ajeemaniz: don't follow web icon
2017-03-27 18:53 ajeemaniz: but again
2017-03-27 18:54 ajeemaniz: to avoid confusing better just to use standard
2017-03-27 18:54 YaHao: up to you, both fine, as long as it repersent the diffculty
2017-03-27 18:54 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183754 xi - Grand Chariot [Hyper]]
2017-03-27 18:54 YaHao: move on
2017-03-27 18:54 ajeemaniz: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183754 xi - Grand Chariot [Hyper]]
2017-03-27 18:59 YaHao: man i cant find anything
2017-03-27 18:59 YaHao: on this diff
2017-03-27 19:00 ajeemaniz: u know hyper is heavily inspired from meow's diff on your rche
2017-03-27 19:00 YaHao: idk even how what he mapped on my map
2017-03-27 19:00 YaHao: lmao
2017-03-27 19:00 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183585 xi - Grand Chariot [Another]]
2017-03-27 19:03 YaHao: 00:09:323 (9323|1,9323|0,9558|2,9558|3) - not gonna jack them like you did to other diff?
2017-03-27 19:03 YaHao: 00:09:951 (9951|0,9951|2,10187|3,10187|1) -
2017-03-27 19:04 ajeemaniz: hmmmmmm
2017-03-27 19:04 ajeemaniz: was thinking to do that
2017-03-27 19:05 ajeemaniz: ok jacked
2017-03-27 19:06 YaHao: 00:20:553 - hmmmm
2017-03-27 19:06 ajeemaniz: 00:20:946 (20946|0) - add one
2017-03-27 19:07 YaHao: why not delete that so make the 1/4 stair start at 00:20:632 - , like you can hear the main pitch change
2017-03-27 19:07 YaHao: 00:20:553 (20553|0) - this i mean
2017-03-27 19:08 ajeemaniz: hmm?
2017-03-27 19:08 ajeemaniz: ok removed, was about to mimick how you stream on dignity
2017-03-27 19:08 ajeemaniz: lel
2017-03-27 19:10 YaHao: 00:23:694 - catchy piano
2017-03-27 19:10 ajeemaniz: 00:20:946 (20946|1) - btw made this double to follow the 1/8, is that ok?
2017-03-27 19:10 YaHao: yup
2017-03-27 19:11 YaHao: like instead of adding real 1/8 note, adding some 1/1 double to build up the intensity as the snap change to 1/8 is a good choice
2017-03-27 19:12 ajeemaniz: 00:32:569 (32569|0) - also i sightly change the jack arrangement, it doesn't feels fit
2017-03-27 19:12 YaHao: isnt this 00:34:061 (34061|0,34061|2,34140|1) - same as 00:23:930 (23930|2,24009|1,24009|3,24087|0) -
2017-03-27 19:13 YaHao: yea thats cool
2017-03-27 19:13 ajeemaniz: yea
2017-03-27 19:13 ajeemaniz: i made it sightly different in both part
2017-03-27 19:13 ajeemaniz: it was intended
2017-03-27 19:16 YaHao: 01:17:490 - 01:17:962 - missing note for kick, intended?
2017-03-27 19:16 YaHao: for main sound as well
2017-03-27 19:17 ajeemaniz: it was from previous mods
2017-03-27 19:17 ajeemaniz: the pseudo quads feels 'too hard' he said
2017-03-27 19:17 ajeemaniz: for another
2017-03-27 19:17 ajeemaniz: but adding it again anywayssince i think its not that too hard lol
2017-03-27 19:18 YaHao: shhhhhhhhhhhhh
2017-03-27 19:18 YaHao: dont let wawa know
2017-03-27 19:19 ajeemaniz: hee
2017-03-27 19:19 ajeemaniz: LOL
2017-03-27 19:19 YaHao: 01:26:757 (86757|1,86836|0,86993|1,87032|0,87229|1,87307|0) - this pattern gay
2017-03-27 19:19 YaHao: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7669224
2017-03-27 19:19 YaHao: maybe try this
2017-03-27 19:21 ajeemaniz: ok sightly different but i got the idea
2017-03-27 19:22 YaHao: yea, as long as its not too much stair
2017-03-27 19:25 ajeemaniz: dc
2017-03-27 19:25 YaHao: 01:50:946 (110946|2) - this to 1st col? otherwise 01:50:789 (110789|2,110946|2,111103|2,111260|2) -
2017-03-27 19:26 ajeemaniz: hoo
2017-03-27 19:26 ajeemaniz: anchor
2017-03-27 19:26 ajeemaniz: ok
2017-03-27 19:26 ajeemaniz: wasn't aware the anchor since it feels so 'climax' towards the end
2017-03-27 19:26 YaHao: kek
2017-03-27 19:26 YaHao: ok last diff
2017-03-27 19:26 ajeemaniz: moved anyway
2017-03-27 19:27 ajeemaniz: sightly different but i got the idea
2017-03-27 19:28 YaHao: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183584 xi - Grand Chariot [Grand Crown]]
2017-03-27 19:30 YaHao: 00:19:061 - will say reduce one note here, leave the triple for the cymbal here 00:19:375 -
2017-03-27 19:30 ajeemaniz: ok
2017-03-27 19:32 YaHao: 00:27:700 (27700|2,27778|2) - to 2nd col maybe, because most of the previous notes are on the 3 4 col
2017-03-27 19:32 YaHao: 00:26:600 (26600|3,26757|3,26914|3,27071|2,27229|3,27386|2,27543|3,27700|2,27778|2,27857|3) -
2017-03-27 19:35 ajeemaniz: ok
2017-03-27 19:35 YaHao: 00:34:454 (34454|1,34454|0,34611|3) - CTRL+H this? you get the idea
2017-03-27 19:36 YaHao: 00:46:234 (46234|1,46391|1,46548|1,46705|1,46862|1,47019|1) -
2017-03-27 19:36 ajeemaniz: 00:34:061 (34061|2,34061|3,34297|2,34297|1,34454|0,34454|1) - well i actually wants to make these double descending from right to left
2017-03-27 19:37 YaHao: thats fine
2017-03-27 19:37 ajeemaniz: ok done with 00:46:234 (46234|1) -
2017-03-27 19:38 ajeemaniz: 01:38:066 (98066|1,98145|2,98223|0,98223|1,98380|2,98380|1,98537|2) - btw i ctrl+H this to make the LN different
2017-03-27 19:39 YaHao: have check there yet lol
2017-03-27 19:41 YaHao: 01:19:375 -
2017-03-27 19:41 YaHao: like i mention in hype
2017-03-27 19:41 YaHao: hyper
2017-03-27 19:42 ajeemaniz: which?
2017-03-27 19:42 YaHao: reduce one note
2017-03-27 19:42 YaHao: use triple for cymbal here 01:19:689 -
2017-03-27 19:42 ajeemaniz: oh
2017-03-27 19:42 YaHao: to show the difference
2017-03-27 19:42 ajeemaniz: ohhhh
2017-03-27 19:43 ajeemaniz: you didn't mod anything in hyper lmao
2017-03-27 19:43 ajeemaniz: yeah reduced
2017-03-27 19:43 YaHao: oh
2017-03-27 19:43 YaHao: another
2017-03-27 19:43 YaHao: my bad
2017-03-27 19:44 YaHao: 01:36:260 (96260|0,96338|0) - 01:40:030 (100030|0,100030|1,100108|0) -
2017-03-27 19:44 YaHao: smh dont think they should be jacked
2017-03-27 19:45 YaHao: shouldnt
2017-03-27 19:45 YaHao: cant hear same pitch main sound
2017-03-27 19:45 ajeemaniz: ok
2017-03-27 19:46 ajeemaniz: 01:36:024 - made the jack in this one instead
2017-03-27 19:47 YaHao: \01:40:030 (100030|0,100030|1,100108|0) -
2017-03-27 19:47 ajeemaniz: 01:50:318 - added some more audible 1/4
2017-03-27 19:47 YaHao: 01:43:956 -
2017-03-27 19:47 YaHao: slowdown lol
2017-03-27 19:48 ajeemaniz: gg
2017-03-27 19:48 ajeemaniz: what about 1:40?
2017-03-27 19:49 YaHao: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7669355
2017-03-27 19:49 ajeemaniz: 1 hand jack is bae
2017-03-27 19:50 ajeemaniz: i will get miss in that LOL, applied btw
2017-03-27 19:50 YaHao: beside the last jack, the current pattern not really balanced
2017-03-27 19:51 YaHao: 01:50:318 - to 23, 01:50:789 - to 13. Because the 1and 4 col are really heavy
2017-03-27 19:52 ajeemaniz: the jack?
2017-03-27 19:52 ajeemaniz: also the 1&4th column are intentionally anchored
2017-03-27 19:52 YaHao: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7669385
2017-03-27 19:52 ajeemaniz: for the last pattern
2017-03-27 19:53 YaHao: ok fair enough
2017-03-27 19:56 YaHao: ok all good
2017-03-27 19:56 ajeemaniz: update again?
2017-03-27 19:56 ajeemaniz: i should get rest soon, start cold sweating again
2017-03-27 19:56 YaHao: update

Here is your heart <3
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
sy is dangerous

grats usagi
Kyouren
Gratzz! :3
Surono

ajeemaniz wrote:

sy is dangerous

grats usagi
anjrit terus lu siapa om wkkwkw
Todestrieb
The Kiai on the Grand Crown difficulty feels inconsistant. For example, at 01:34:846 -, there isn't any note but the sound is audible at 25% rate. Same for 01:39:873 - (you did put one at 01:41:129 (101129|0) - tho, and It's exactly the same thing). I also don't understand why the section starting at 01:41:051 - should have 4 mini-jacks, It's exactly the same as the first section of the kiai. Also, watch out for anchors here, here and here. I understand why you put a long trill in the middle section after the little break, but these don't follow anything in particular.
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

Todestrieb wrote:

The Kiai on the Grand Crown difficulty feels inconsistant. For example, at 01:34:846 -, there isn't any note but the sound is audible at 25% rate. Same for 01:39:873 - (you did put one at 01:41:129 (101129|0) - tho, and It's exactly the same thing).

I also don't understand why the section starting at 01:41:051 - should have 4 mini-jacks, It's exactly the same as the first section of the kiai.

Also, watch out for anchors here, here and here.

I understand why you put a long trill in the middle section after the little break, but these don't follow anything in particular.
wee feedback <3 thanks

- although there's audible stuff and so on, the way i map this initially follows how the rhythm made in the IIDX chart and mix it, the spacing was intended and i made it in the first measure and the next 4th measure in the kiai to create a break between the first 4 measure and the next one.. stanza thing..

- the 4 jacks made as marking for transitioning to the next part tho, building up and making it harder towards that part, basically to heaten up stuff before the next jump and hand stream
but if the solution is to make everything has 4 jacks like this, that doesn't sounds bad tho, though i prefer my current build-up design instead

- the anchor are fine as i put them for hand strain, yes im that evil so sorry not that sorry, but basically it layers most of the kick sound like how you see the anchors in IIDX charts, and i love the anchor in the last part as the addition for the climax

- trills, would've made it 2 3 1 4 2 3 1 4 like in the IIDX but its 4K most Insane diff, and trill doesn't that hurt in 191 bpm so ye

any further discussion is still open.
Aras
Where is my LN galore? D:<

in Standard diff, - 01:09:637 (69637|3,70265|2,70893|1,71522|0) - I think from those 4 LN these 2 LN 01:10:265 (70265|2,71522|0) - can be removed, the sounds you followed there is not too audible to map in this diff, also I see that in Hyper diff you completely ignore this sound which will be contradicting the diff spread

as for Beginner diff, I think this note 00:20:003 (20003|2) - should be removed, I don't hear something significant aside from the 1/2 kick that were started here 00:19:375 (19375|0) -
maybe you're simplifying it to 2/1 there, but still I think it is inappropriate

still in Beginner diff, 00:24:401 (24401|1,25501|0) - and 00:27:700 (27700|0,28171|2) - I think both of them should share the same LN pattern as they both have that 1/2 gap actually
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

Aras25 wrote:

Where is my LN galore? D:<

in Standard diff, - 01:09:637 (69637|3,70265|2,70893|1,71522|0) - I think from those 4 LN these 2 LN 01:10:265 (70265|2,71522|0) - can be removed, the sounds you followed there is not too audible to map in this diff, also I see that in Hyper diff you completely ignore this sound which will be contradicting the diff spread

as for Beginner diff, I think this note 00:20:003 (20003|2) - should be removed, I don't hear something significant aside from the 1/2 kick that were started here 00:19:375 (19375|0) -
maybe you're simplifying it to 2/1 there, but still I think it is inappropriate

still in Beginner diff, 00:24:401 (24401|1,25501|0) - and 00:27:700 (27700|0,28171|2) - I think both of them should share the same LN pattern as they both have that 1/2 gap actually
- it doesn't make sense to justify removing these notes just because the other difficulty has different pattern, plus the cue sound is there
- it doesn't make sense as well to put long 1/2 kicks on beginner. the spacing & LN made as i designed this 'Beginner' chart for 'Beginner friendly' while maintaining it to be reasonable as possible.
- if possible i'd rather variate a thing rather than repeat it twice, + i aware about this already, that the time reaction of release-push in the 2nd LN would be harder because its shorter.

i appreciate the feedback, but btw the way you said 'inappropriate' does stand nothing but biased personal opinion that doesn't backed up by proper reasoning and against the current RC lol, no hard feeling taken but be careful we have modding CoC here. *wags*
Akasha-
still better than that old bg

and hey, my samples
HXJ_Crafter
Gratz :3
Todestrieb

ajeemaniz wrote:

- the anchor are fine as i put them for hand strain, yes im that evil so sorry not that sorry, but basically it layers most of the kick sound like how you see the anchors in IIDX charts, and i love the anchor in the last part as the addition for the climax
I still feel they aren't placed coherently.
-In this first case, 2nd and 3rd column are way, way more denser than the 1st and 2nd, without any kick sound and without following the pitch, It's just here for being here, without any reason explaining this placement with the music, and thus destroying the trill which is actually placed following the music.
-In this second case, if you wanted to follow the kick effectively, you should have started with the 4th column the white tick, and the overall flow of the pattern could still be improved without the (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676995).
-And in the last big anchor at the end, It's also here for the purpose of putting an long anchor, the kick sounds stop earlier than the anchor and It's extended by both the kick and the stream (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7677008, kicks in blue), so there isn't any sound justifying this. I think you should put a stop to this one after the jumptrill, because It will be more pleasant to play, and will give a better feeling of the actual real kick accentuation. The density of the part is also enough to give a climatic effect, without resorting to this.
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

Todestrieb wrote:

ajeemaniz wrote:

- the anchor are fine as i put them for hand strain, yes im that evil so sorry not that sorry, but basically it layers most of the kick sound like how you see the anchors in IIDX charts, and i love the anchor in the last part as the addition for the climax
I still feel they aren't placed coherently.
-In this first case, 2nd and 3rd column are way, way more denser than the 1st and 2nd, without any kick sound and without following the pitch, It's just here for being here, without any reason explaining this placement with the music, and thus destroying the trill which is actually placed following the music.
-In this second case, if you wanted to follow the kick effectively, you should have started with the 4th column the white tick, and the overall flow of the pattern could still be improved without the (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7676995).
-And in the last big anchor at the end, It's also here for the purpose of putting an long anchor, the kick sounds stop earlier than the anchor and It's extended by both the kick and the stream (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7677008, kicks in blue), so there isn't any sound justifying this. I think you should put a stop to this one after the jumptrill, because It will be more pleasant to play, and will give a better feeling of the actual real kick accentuation. The density of the part is also enough to give a climatic effect, without resorting to this.
- it would have been another mainstream stream with double kicks each 1/1 if i mapped as you pointed out but sorry i didn't fond with that mainstream mapping approach because its kind of lame.
and yes i intentionally didn't map the kicks for sake of emphasizing the synthesizers with doubles 01:19:689 (79689|0,79689|2,79925|3,79925|1,80160|3,80160|1,80396|0,80396|2,80632|1,80632|3,80789|2,80789|3) -
i could reduce the trills amount as solution of those minor trills at 2 & 3 without changing the rest of the structure

- could do that, but initially i put 00:19:375 (19375|2,19532|2,19689|1,19846|1,20003|0,20160|0,20318|3,20475|3) - as kicks unlike the other anchors, changing or not, either way this minor intro wouldn't that hurts

- i realized that tho, the initial pattern was like https://puu.sh/v1HTx/de1aa807a4.png but i didn't feel the climax is enough lol
i did intentionally move the anchors from 2nd col to 1st when people modded this long before nomination, moved this to reduce the 232323 trills in the 01:52:359 - hand part. i could revert the pattern as the solution

feels like 50:50 to agree or not to agree with the other points, at least could mostly agree with the last one
Feerum
Hello!

Disqualified on Mappers request.
It seems ajeemaniz did agree with some points Todestrieb did bring up.
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
what changed :
added 1 LN in all diffs to make it consistent before kiai lmao
fixed what tode's pointed out plus the jacks in kiai, it should be more spamable and hand balance wise while retaining the whole current difficulty structure
Aras
lol, it's not my personal taste or opinion or what you name it
it is diff spread consistency, imagine, in the same time stamp but different diff, the easier diff had 1/4 pattern while the harder diff uses 1/2, that's just "eh?" of course this is just example
and also sorry for that "inappropriate" word uwu, I just don't know other way to express it
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
4K should be ready again
added 7K lol
Sandalphon
...
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

YaHao wrote:

...
kms
AncuL
w0w i just wanted to make a 7k mapset and this appeared
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

AncuL wrote:

w0w i just wanted to make a 7k mapset and this appeared
you're late about 6 hours after dq
speedmapping gg
Surono
cant speedmapping = ban xi -_--
ooo da powar of 69% anikis _-
Eldergleam
i see inb4 this qualify, and i now i see 7K mapset

Surono wrote:

ooo da powar of 69% anikis _-
^ nyolong quotenya surono sadja
Rivals_7
yo M4M

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

SPOILER
[7K Another]

00:18:119 (18119|4,18276|4) - think you shouldnt stack here. be consistent with - 00:17:490 (17490|5,17647|3) - 00:16:862 (16862|1,17019|3) -

00:51:260 - eee how about this

sounds the piano would be more intuititve if the double were splitted

00:56:757 (56757|0) - you forgot W i guess. see your "Glorious" diff

01:16:548 (76548|3,76783|3,76941|3,77098|3) - this anchor tho

01:24:873 (84873|2,84951|3,84951|5,85030|2) - somethings wrong here. the C should have the double too.

[7K Hyper]

00:41:993 (41993|0) - would probably move to 2 so it wont contradict with the low pitch piano - 00:42:307 (42307|0) -

00:47:176 (47176|6) - double here. just like you do at - 00:45:763 (45763|0,45763|3,45920|0,45920|3) - 00:46:391 (46391|1,46391|2,46548|1,46548|2) - since they're on the same piano pitches

00:50:160 (50160|3) - double? piano sounds quite louder

01:34:768 (94768|0,94768|2,95003|3,95003|1) - 01:36:024 (96024|4,96024|6,96260|3,96260|5) - should have been stacked. consistency with - 01:39:794 (99794|6,99794|4,100030|4,100030|6) - 01:41:051 (101051|3,101051|0,101286|3,101286|0) - for the same piano pitch

01:54:087 (114087|6) - move to 5? contracdicted with the high piano pitch above it

[7K standard]

00:45:763 (45763|1,45920|1,46077|0) - transition from midfing to pinky are quite odd imo. i would move this to the right one step. also reflect what you did at - 00:46:391 (46391|5,46548|5,46705|4) -

00:53:302 (53302|1) - move to 4? give some freedom of intuitive pattern. :u

[7K Beginner]

01:39:166 (99166|0,99480|0) - hmm i dont think i see the reason why is this stacked tho.

pro diffs. GL o/
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

Rivals_7 wrote:

yo M4M

1|2|3|4|5|6|7

SPOILER
[7K Another]

00:18:119 (18119|4,18276|4) - think you shouldnt stack here. be consistent with - 00:17:490 (17490|5,17647|3) - 00:16:862 (16862|1,17019|3) -

00:51:260 - eee how about this

sounds the piano would be more intuititve if the double were splitted

00:56:757 (56757|0) - you forgot W i guess. see your "Glorious" diff

01:16:548 (76548|3,76783|3,76941|3,77098|3) - this anchor tho

01:24:873 (84873|2,84951|3,84951|5,85030|2) - somethings wrong here. the C should have the double too.

[7K Hyper]

00:41:993 (41993|0) - would probably move to 2 so it wont contradict with the low pitch piano - 00:42:307 (42307|0) -

00:47:176 (47176|6) - double here. just like you do at - 00:45:763 (45763|0,45763|3,45920|0,45920|3) - 00:46:391 (46391|1,46391|2,46548|1,46548|2) - since they're on the same piano pitches

00:50:160 (50160|3) - double? piano sounds quite louder

01:34:768 (94768|0,94768|2,95003|3,95003|1) - 01:36:024 (96024|4,96024|6,96260|3,96260|5) - should have been stacked. consistency with - 01:39:794 (99794|6,99794|4,100030|4,100030|6) - 01:41:051 (101051|3,101051|0,101286|3,101286|0) - for the same piano pitch

01:54:087 (114087|6) - move to 5? contracdicted with the high piano pitch above it

[7K standard]

00:45:763 (45763|1,45920|1,46077|0) - transition from midfing to pinky are quite odd imo. i would move this to the right one step. also reflect what you did at - 00:46:391 (46391|5,46548|5,46705|4) -

00:53:302 (53302|1) - move to 4? give some freedom of intuitive pattern. :u

[7K Beginner]

01:39:166 (99166|0,99480|0) - hmm i dont think i see the reason why is this stacked tho.

pro diffs. GL o/
gg all apply except 01:24:873 - gotta emphasize the synth with no snare there
thanks! wait for the m4m
MEGAtive
xi - Grand Chariot

[7K Glorious Queen]
*ahem*ripping off Glorious Crown for diffname since this song's title is Grand Chariot aha I get it.
Mods
  1. 00:01:469 - Well this starts with pitch increasing, so why don't you try something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/Svxx9va2 ? Your current pattern would make it feel it's increasing and then decreasing.
  2. 00:02:255 - Pitch wise I think https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/GW72l2bn is better in covering the melody.
  3. 00:06:496 (6496|2,6535|3,6574|4,6613|5,6653|6,6653|0,6731|1) - Would executed better if Ctrl+H. Your current pattern makes it heavy on left hand.
  4. 00:26:443 - https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/xSx8nfvf more comfy IMO.
  5. 00:41:208 - Don't you think this is a bit anticlimatic? Maybe triple here still fine. And Another is actually using Triple so why not
  6. 00:57:071 (57071|0,57071|1,57071|2,57229|2,57229|0,57386|2,57386|0,57543|3,57543|0,57543|2,57700|0,57700|1,57700|2,57857|0,57857|2,58014|2,58014|0,58171|0,58171|2,58249|3,58328|0) - Eh really? Maybe 00:57:543 (57543|3,57700|1) - better off in right column. God dem hammering ;w;
  7. 01:32:569 - Better off with https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/gNKVL12S tho. Pitch are going down here so making it stair to the right just felt awkward. Also as an aftermath of this, 01:33:825 (93825|4) - Move to |6| to make pattern looks cleaner. (|7||3||6||2| broken stair thingy).
  8. TBH kiai felt fine but aren't consistent in structure so I think I should tweak this.
    1. I'm confused with 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 - compared with 01:37:752 - 01:39:009 - 01:40:265 - 01:41:522 - . The first two are using a succession of |14||25| etc., while the other's are using minijack.
      1. If I'm going to assume that it's for variety, then 01:40:265 - 01:41:522 - should be reverting to the same as 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 -
      2. Otherwise you can change 01:37:752 - 01:39:009 - to the same as 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 - so the minijack section starts at 01:40:265 -
        Though I prefer the first one but it's up to you.
    2. Now let's talk about 01:35:003 - 01:40:030 - compared with 01:36:260 - 01:37:516 - 01:38:773 - and also compared with 01:41:286 - . The first two are having the notes minijack'd, while the second three are in |14||25| succession (IDK what to call this tho. I'd say gallop or ministair but it just doesn't fall right to the term lel.) and the third one is only having one note jack'd. Actually my suggestion would revolve on something like "2 instance, change pattern execution" but it's up to you though. Like 01:36:260 - minijack, 01:41:286 - both notes minijack'd. Yea something like that.
Actually if this mod sounds weird, don't mind me since I took two different days to mod this lol.

[7K Another]
Mods
  1. 00:19:061 (19061|5,19061|3,19218|5,19218|1) - Ctrl+H so the pattern is actually balanced. Also pattern became more interesting lel
  2. 00:20:946 - Actually I kinda against simplification of 1/8 using 1/4 here since it would be misleading but w/e it's still UTY though.
  3. 00:40:972 (40972|3,41208|2) - Ctrl+J? So 00:40:736 - 00:41:365 - would get same treatment of being hammered.
  4. 00:42:150 - Well you can map the piano here. It's not that hurt right?
  5. 01:33:511 (93511|2,93668|4,93825|3,93982|5) - You can move these to the right once to make 01:33:197 - left hand less cluttered.

Segini dulu dah. Ntar dilanjut lagi.
Topic Starter
Arzenvald

MEGAtive wrote:

xi - Grand Chariot

[7K Glorious Queen]
*ahem*ripping off Glorious Crown for diffname since this song's title is Grand Chariot aha I get it. // ya

Mods
  1. 00:01:469 - Well this starts with pitch increasing, so why don't you try something like https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/Svxx9va2 ? Your current pattern would make it feel it's increasing and then decreasing. // mm a little bit arranged
  2. 00:02:255 - Pitch wise I think https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/GW72l2bn is better in covering the melody. // na, it looks like the next pattern
  3. 00:06:496 (6496|2,6535|3,6574|4,6613|5,6653|6,6653|0,6731|1) - Would executed better if Ctrl+H. Your current pattern makes it heavy on left hand.
  4. 00:26:443 - https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/xSx8nfvf more comfy IMO. // i kept this to separate left & right hand
  5. 00:41:208 - Don't you think this is a bit anticlimatic? Maybe triple here still fine. And Another is actually using Triple so why not
  6. 00:57:071 (57071|0,57071|1,57071|2,57229|2,57229|0,57386|2,57386|0,57543|3,57543|0,57543|2,57700|0,57700|1,57700|2,57857|0,57857|2,58014|2,58014|0,58171|0,58171|2,58249|3,58328|0) - Eh really? Maybe 00:57:543 (57543|3,57700|1) - better off in right column. God dem hammering ;w; // im teh evil one
  7. 01:32:569 - Better off with https://rhythmega.s-ul.eu/gNKVL12S tho. Pitch are going down here so making it stair to the right just felt awkward. Also as an aftermath of this, 01:33:825 (93825|4) - Move to |6| to make pattern looks cleaner. (|7||3||6||2| broken stair thingy).
  8. TBH kiai felt fine but aren't consistent in structure so I think I should tweak this.
    1. I'm confused with 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 - compared with 01:37:752 - 01:39:009 - 01:40:265 - 01:41:522 - . The first two are using a succession of |14||25| etc., while the other's are using minijack.
      1. If I'm going to assume that it's for variety, then 01:40:265 - 01:41:522 - should be reverting to the same as 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 -
      2. Otherwise you can change 01:37:752 - 01:39:009 - to the same as 01:35:239 - 01:36:496 - so the minijack section starts at 01:40:265 -
        Though I prefer the first one but it's up to you.
    2. Now let's talk about 01:35:003 - 01:40:030 - compared with 01:36:260 - 01:37:516 - 01:38:773 - and also compared with 01:41:286 - . The first two are having the notes minijack'd, while the second three are in |14||25| succession (IDK what to call this tho. I'd say gallop or ministair but it just doesn't fall right to the term lel.) and the third one is only having one note jack'd. Actually my suggestion would revolve on something like "2 instance, change pattern execution" but it's up to you though. Like 01:36:260 - minijack, 01:41:286 - both notes minijack'd. Yea something like that.
Actually if this mod sounds weird, don't mind me since I took two different days to mod this lol.

// the way i vary the jackhammer placement is basically more of this reason :
jacks made as marking for transitioning to the next part, building up and making it harder towards the end.. basically to heaten up per each stanza, each part getting more jacks from first section to the next one, and they are more became harder too, from single hand jack to 2 hand jack, so instead of making every same sound jack'd, i made it sightly raising instead for, rather playing experience.. not so much into prprpr

another thing, unless its allowed to, its kind of contradict to put more jack as it raises the gap more from another to glorious queen

[7K Another]
Mods
  1. 00:19:061 (19061|5,19061|3,19218|5,19218|1) - Ctrl+H so the pattern is actually balanced. Also pattern became more interesting lel
  2. 00:20:946 - Actually I kinda against simplification of 1/8 using 1/4 here since it would be misleading but w/e it's still UTY though.
  3. 00:40:972 (40972|3,41208|2) - Ctrl+J? So 00:40:736 - 00:41:365 - would get same treatment of being hammered.
  4. 00:42:150 - Well you can map the piano here. It's not that hurt right?
  5. 01:33:511 (93511|2,93668|4,93825|3,93982|5) - You can move these to the right once to make 01:33:197 - left hand less cluttered.

Segini dulu dah. Ntar dilanjut lagi.
unreplied = done, thx mega <3
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
lets move this, removed std versi maksa why did i upload that anyway lmao
DoNotMess
ini map msih idup gk? mau mod gratis nih biar stay on the graveyard pit XD
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
revived ; ;
Eclipse-
RANK THIS MAP PLS

from no queue I don't even mod my boy

I'm the playability guy tbw, lots upon lots of 2017 mapping criticism incoming

nothing to mod in 4k beginner tbh

4k Standard
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:06:338 (6338|0,6496|3,6496|0) - ...I don't like that. It's an awkward pattern from a beginner's point of view. hitting the same note twice whilst adding another note to the second one doesn't suit the diff even if it's slow imo
00:18:747 (18747|2,18747|3,18904|3) - it's like the error before but faster and the other way around lol
00:41:208 (41208|1,41208|0,41365|0,41836|3,41993|3,41993|2) - risky risky pattern for that diff
01:42:621 (102621|3,102778|1,102778|3,103092|2,103249|2,103249|0,103564|1,103721|1,103721|3,104035|0,104192|3,104192|0) - maybe? this is much more acceptable since it's the densiest part of the song but I'd still consider that.

ERRORS
01:54:715 (114715|0,114873|0,114873|1) - density definitely not sufficient to place that here.

CRITICAL ERRORS
none

4k Hyper
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:02:962 (2962|2,3040|3,3040|1) - wrong level for this after a burst tbh
00:26:600 (26600|3,26600|2,26757|3) - insufficient density for something like that.
00:31:234 (31234|3,31312|0,31312|2) - look 1st error
00:35:396 (35396|2,35396|0,35553|1,35553|0) -
00:35:867 (35867|3,36024|0,36024|3) - you sure?
00:49:846 (49846|1,49925|2,50003|0,50082|3,50160|2) - doesn't this burrst look at least weird to you?
00:59:270 (59270|2,59349|0,59427|1,59506|3,59585|0,59585|2) - remember, it's over 190bpm bursts when the map isn't even 3 stars, make them simpler.
01:04:140 (64140|0,64218|3,64297|1,64375|2,64454|1,64532|3) - again
01:14:506 (74506|3,74663|0,74663|3) - another calm part and this


ERRORS
00:48:276 (48276|2,48276|0,48433|0,48590|3,48590|1,48747|3,48904|1,48904|0,49061|0,49218|3,49218|2,49375|3) - this HURTS in a relatively calm part of the song. Mind that it's not even a 3 star diff and relevance matters.
01:22:438 (82438|3,82516|2,82595|0,82674|3,82752|1,82831|0) - relevance again, this is in the middle of a short stream, how is a player supposed to hit that having been recently introduced to simple streams?
01:23:694 (83694|0,83773|2,83852|3,83930|0,84009|1,84087|3,84166|0) - again



CRITICAL ERRORS
01:45:605 (105605|1) - MERCILESS. in the chorus part where you introduce a player to doubles and triples with a frequent need to jack (and only fillers if single notes) then you get a jack from that singkle filler note, how is a player on that level supposed to hit that?
01:48:119 (108119|0) - again

also one point, this diff is already a little broken as it comes to relevance, since the doubles and triples in the chorus part are already wayy above the average for this star rating but it isn't a particular error because I don't know how else I'd do this anyway :P

4k Another
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:19:375 (19375|2,19375|3,19375|1) - why a triple here? and even if you have a good reason for it, it would play better for the single note after it to be in the first column imo
00:19:375 (19375|2,19375|3,19375|1) - I don't hear this note?
01:27:307 (87307|2,87386|3) - I don't hear those two?
01:47:804 (107804|1,107804|2,107883|0,107962|2,108040|3,108040|1,108119|0) - consider simplifying. This pattern doesn't play well at all.

ERRORS
00:06:103 (6103|3,6181|1,6181|2,6260|3) - don't do that. It's evil on this and many higher levels. Playability hurts at this point.
00:47:019 (47019|0,47176|0) - a player has just hit a stream, let them chill.
00:59:427 (59427|0) - should be in the 3rd column, since this made a trill, as always relevance and playability
01:00:527 (60527|0,60605|1,60684|0) - have mercy. this is in the middle of a stream. It's easy to hit, but not by a player who is on this level.
01:01:626 (61626|3,61705|2,61783|3) - again
01:14:820 (74820|0) - 3rd error again
01:16:077 (76077|0) - and again
01:16:077 (76077|0,76391|3) - aaaaaand again
01:22:045 (82045|3) - yet again
01:22:045 (82045|3) - guess what? again
01:37:438 (97438|0,97516|2,97516|3,97595|0,97674|2,97752|0,97752|1) - ...what? This pattern is so weird that I even choked here xd but honestly it plays really bad, shouldn't be there
01:40:422 (100422|0,100501|3,100501|1,100579|0) - 1st error repeats
01:45:448 (105448|0,105527|3,105527|1,105605|0) - and again
01:46:705 (106705|1,106783|3,106783|2,106862|1) - yet again
01:49:218 (109218|1,109297|3,109297|2,109375|1) - ...again

CRITICAL ERRORS
01:31:705 (91705|1,91705|0,91783|1,91783|0) - NONONONONNONONONONONOOONO even if it's single this is a whole other level. Only in grand crown this could be acceptable

Will mod Grand Crown when I feel like it
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
4 months to go
lets go
Shima Rin
Back when?
Topic Starter
Arzenvald
soon TM
Mentholzzz
"Grand Crown" and "Glorious Queen" :thonk:
Garalulu
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Topic Starter
Arzenvald
hype this

my god how did i missed 1 mod

Eclipse- wrote:

RANK THIS MAP PLS

from no queue I don't even mod my boy

I'm the playability guy tbw, lots upon lots of 2017 mapping criticism incoming

nothing to mod in 4k beginner tbh

4k Standard
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:06:338 (6338|0,6496|3,6496|0) - ...I don't like that. It's an awkward pattern from a beginner's point of view. hitting the same note twice whilst adding another note to the second one doesn't suit the diff even if it's slow imo // fixed this
00:18:747 (18747|2,18747|3,18904|3) - it's like the error before but faster and the other way around lol // the double meant for the kick & cymbal, but moved some anchor i suppose
00:41:208 (41208|1,41208|0,41365|0,41836|3,41993|3,41993|2) - risky risky pattern for that diff // will keep the anchor for variation
01:42:621 (102621|3,102778|1,102778|3,103092|2,103249|2,103249|0,103564|1,103721|1,103721|3,104035|0,104192|3,104192|0) - maybe? this is much more acceptable since it's the densiest part of the song but I'd still consider that. // as you said, dense pattern for the climax

ERRORS
01:54:715 (114715|0,114873|0,114873|1) - density definitely not sufficient to place that here. // mm keep, rather minor and it meant for the kick

CRITICAL ERRORS
none

4k Hyper
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:02:962 (2962|2,3040|3,3040|1) - wrong level for this after a burst tbh // mm good point
00:26:600 (26600|3,26600|2,26757|3) - insufficient density for something like that. // mmm i don't think so, double kick
00:31:234 (31234|3,31312|0,31312|2) - look 1st error // too minor for either change or keeping, keep
00:35:396 (35396|2,35396|0,35553|1,35553|0) -
00:35:867 (35867|3,36024|0,36024|3) - you sure? // ofc, 1/2 anchor adds variation to the flow
00:49:846 (49846|1,49925|2,50003|0,50082|3,50160|2) - doesn't this burrst look at least weird to you? // nah, meant for l r l r
00:59:270 (59270|2,59349|0,59427|1,59506|3,59585|0,59585|2) - remember, it's over 190bpm bursts when the map isn't even 3 stars, make them simpler. // i could but i think this one doesn't really that hard to execute
01:04:140 (64140|0,64218|3,64297|1,64375|2,64454|1,64532|3) - again // intended trill
01:14:506 (74506|3,74663|0,74663|3) - another calm part and this // same pitch


ERRORS
00:48:276 (48276|2,48276|0,48433|0,48590|3,48590|1,48747|3,48904|1,48904|0,49061|0,49218|3,49218|2,49375|3) - this HURTS in a relatively calm part of the song. Mind that it's not even a 3 star diff and relevance matters. // moved some notes but keep the anchor as it meant to be
01:22:438 (82438|3,82516|2,82595|0,82674|3,82752|1,82831|0) - relevance again, this is in the middle of a short stream, how is a player supposed to hit that having been recently introduced to simple streams? // that's the challenge, the 3/4 beat supports the transition tho, also too minor to affect playability :3
01:23:694 (83694|0,83773|2,83852|3,83930|0,84009|1,84087|3,84166|0) - again // ^



CRITICAL ERRORS
01:45:605 (105605|1) - MERCILESS. in the chorus part where you introduce a player to doubles and triples with a frequent need to jack (and only fillers if single notes) then you get a jack from that singkle filler note, how is a player on that level supposed to hit that? // mm i can't see why i should unjack them, also i think if its 'normal or below' then it would be too hard, hence, 'Hyper'.
01:48:119 (108119|0) - again

also one point, this diff is already a little broken as it comes to relevance, since the doubles and triples in the chorus part are already wayy above the average for this star rating but it isn't a particular error because I don't know how else I'd do this anyway :P // it meant for the climax so i use triples and simple anchors, hey they are fun for practice! :D

4k Another
POTENTIAL ERRORS
00:19:375 (19375|2,19375|3,19375|1) - why a triple here? and even if you have a good reason for it, it would play better for the single note after it to be in the first column imo // because of 00:19:689 (19689|2,20003|2,20318|1) -
00:19:375 (19375|2,19375|3,19375|1) - I don't hear this note? // try 25% playback rate
01:27:307 (87307|2,87386|3) - I don't hear those two? // try 25% playback rate
01:47:804 (107804|1,107804|2,107883|0,107962|2,108040|3,108040|1,108119|0) - consider simplifying. This pattern doesn't play well at all. // mm too subjective, i'll keep this

ERRORS
00:06:103 (6103|3,6181|1,6181|2,6260|3) - don't do that. It's evil on this and many higher levels. Playability hurts at this point. // its like 00:05:475 (5475|1,5553|0,5632|1) - but only flipped, keep this

00:47:019 (47019|0,47176|0) - a player has just hit a stream, let them chill. // same piano pitch, keep this

00:59:427 (59427|0) - should be in the 3rd column, since this made a trill, as always relevance and playability // except you forgot it will create longer trill and break the playability itself xD, keep

01:00:527 (60527|0,60605|1,60684|0) - have mercy. this is in the middle of a stream. It's easy to hit, but not by a player who is on this level. // its not hard .-. its insane difficulty as it meant to be, keep

01:01:626 (61626|3,61705|2,61783|3) - again
01:14:820 (74820|0) - 3rd error again
01:16:077 (76077|0) - and again
01:16:077 (76077|0,76391|3) - aaaaaand again
01:22:045 (82045|3) - yet again
01:22:045 (82045|3) - guess what? again
01:37:438 (97438|0,97516|2,97516|3,97595|0,97674|2,97752|0,97752|1) - ...what? This pattern is so weird that I even choked here xd but honestly it plays really bad, shouldn't be there // you bet
01:40:422 (100422|0,100501|3,100501|1,100579|0) - 1st error repeats
01:45:448 (105448|0,105527|3,105527|1,105605|0) - and again
01:46:705 (106705|1,106783|3,106783|2,106862|1) - yet again
01:49:218 (109218|1,109297|3,109297|2,109375|1) - ...again


CRITICAL ERRORS
01:31:705 (91705|1,91705|0,91783|1,91783|0) - NONONONONNONONONONONOOONO even if it's single this is a whole other level. Only in grand crown this could be acceptable // mm keep

// i don't know how to summarize this, but 'Another' meant for 'Insane' difficulty, i don't want to lower it just for playability, i consider the music flow more than anything

Will mod Grand Crown when I feel like it

sorry sorry sorry >A< and thank you for your time to mod this! :D
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