Mikoi Sasaki - Bokura no Seiza · forum

Eir_DELETED

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Eir_DELETED 2017-02-09T18:06:31+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Sorry for this, but I think it's not quite ready to be ranked yet.

[General]
* Now that I check the whole mapset, the spread is a bit unstable, mainly because the first half of the map is mapped so differently between each difficulties. Especially from 00:18:705 - to 00:52:305 - of Left's diff (which is like 1/3 of the entire song) is even less intense than Yohanes' Insane. Even though it really doesn't determine the minimum required skills of a difficulty, still I doubt if this is working as a proper 'spread'.
* Integrating the end of the map into 01:40:155 - like Yohanes' diff makes more sense imo. There's a good sound to actually make an event. And other instruments start to disappear step by step starting on that beat as well.　 I see, i didnt listen music carefully. like you said, i think it's better to match with Yohanes' diff. applied

[Advanced]
* 00:17:805 (4,1,2) - This didn't feel to be a good pattern usage, simply because they create a big group while they have no relation to each other music-wise. Besides, when distance snap is used, having another note between them makes it harder to read. So I strongly suggest to avoid this and separate them. i get it. this placement cause missreading for player. i changed to separate them in my own way.
* 00:47:505 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try to find a better rhythm for this. Does this part really require this repeating rhythm? http://puu.sh/tVjcC/ffb16b3fad.jpg or other rhythms can work too. that's right. i am looking again it. im surprised my own rhythm and placement xD and 00:50:355 (2) - removed cuz of consisntent with one then improved placement on this part

For rhythm-wise, it's not too bad, but some 1/2 filler beats make it hard to recognize what you're trying to follow, like 00:57:555 - 00:58:755 - 01:00:555 - 01:02:055 - 01:02:655 - and so on. I know they still hold some sounds, but as you cannot use too many beats on easier diffs, you sometimes to need to ignore some minor beats, and focus more on the stronger ones (that is, what you actually want to follow) to express the music through the map.　 yeah, exactly i didnt understand what sound should ignore or not on lower diff. probably i thought i have to take all sound even lower's one at that time. so thanks to you, i come along with rechecking rhythm pattern all section about Adv and Hard diffs! thanks :3

More importantly, I don't see much of patterns here; I can only see so many trains. Like, can you explain what kind of logic is behind 01:01:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this train of notes? Not only there, but you should really try to put more things in your map, other than just flow. (looks like my first few ranked maps) oops, i thought the pattern is weird by myself xD but i dont know how do i improve ones, however i try to find to be better rhythm patterns!

[Hard]
* 00:10:605 (4,5,6) - This is really weird one because the 1/4 sounds have already started on 00:11:055 - and you just passed through it with the slider, and then suddenly used 1/4 patterns in the middle of them. I see you did that because the sound becomes larger on the end, but it's just so weird to play only a part of the 1/4s while I can actually hear all of them. oh right, i felt this rhythm pattern is strange somehow, maybe i wanted to express different rhythm pattern with Adv one. i unified it with Adv diff
* 00:15:705 (4,5,1,2) - These spacing inconsistencies really makes the pattern unpolished. yes, i dont know the reason why, these distances is not consistent... i reformed to be same distance and rhythm pattern what is following melodies on this part
* 00:20:355 (5,1) - 00:22:755 (5,1) - You don't want to adjust these bad-looking overlaps? ok
* 00:48:105 (3,4) - Use 1.5x for consistency yeah
* 01:15:555 (2,3) - The head of 3 has very little to no sounds, while 2 has a cymbal sound. This kind of filler beat also weakens the emphasis on strong sounds, so you should use something like this instead: http://puu.sh/tVsAc/5c208e738b.jpg http://puu.sh/tVsBc/e1474faf28.jpg http://puu.sh/tVsEc/e5f334c3ba.jpg applied on first image

Others are generally same with Advanced. I can see when there's a vocal, you follow it well. But everything else is almost just filler beats, like, how would you represent the vocals nicely while you actually have more notes on non-vocal beats? Taking an example from 00:58:305 (1,2,3,4,5) - , I don't see what this is trying to follow. Mainly because of 00:58:755 (2,3) - these filler notes, while you try to emphasize 00:59:055 - 00:59:205 - 00:59:355 - these vocals pretty much. So you could have tried something like http://puu.sh/tVlN2/2ec64cc1c1.jpg instead.

Also again, I don't see much of a structure on the patterns, like what kind of thing the notes create as a pattern, why they are there, and so on. It's always good for you to be able to explain your own map to others. The more you can explain, the better.
I remapped to be based following vocals like Adv diff and rechecked placement more better thanks

[Extra]
* 00:15:105 (1,2,3,4) - The same problem your other diffs have appears here too. Say, what are these notes trying to represent? Let's assume it's the vocals. Then 00:15:555 - 00:16:005 - these sounds are important which you shouldn't ignore or put in on a mere sliderend. Then how about assuming they're representing the drums? Then 00:15:255 - is exceedingly important, and it's not something you can just put on a sliderend like this. Thus, these notes have no focus.
Scenario 1(following the melodies): http://puu.sh/tVu9o/72506e0e80.jpg
Scenario 2(following the drums): http://puu.sh/tVvzD/d3ed13196a.jpg (just like Left did)
* 00:16:305 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - As I wrote on Asami's Insane, there should be more concrete emphasis on 00:16:305 - 00:16:755 - 00:17:205 - 00:17:805 - than other sounds. The slider + circle rhythm is good, but I can't see any difference between circles and slider heads because they all have same spacing and the flow is just randomly turning around. Try to make these stronger sounds actually have some clear difference than other ones. There are numerous ways to emphasize certain sounds.
* 00:19:905 (1,2,3,4) - and so on: What I feel not good about this is, that the vocals here are much prominent than the constant background 1/2 sounds, but these patterns require even more action on the 00:20:505 (3,4) - this small sounds than 00:19:905 (1,2) - these vocals. In other words, I can't feel what you're focusing on, and I think you should clarify more by differentiating them more obviously.
* 00:33:105 (1,2,3) - Though you might think these little ds difference doesn't affect much, it actually contributes the structure of this part. 00:31:905 (1,2) - 1.95x, 00:32:355 (2,3) - 1.92x, 00:33:105 (1,2) - 2.08x, 00:33:555 (2,3) - 1.97x. See what's going on?
* 00:58:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I can only say these jumps are just there because it feels too empty. Are you actually emphasizing some sort of sounds? None of the instruments are strong on every 1/2s, so I don't see a reason for here to be an entire jump 'section'.
* 01:05:730 - Ignoring this beat is weird, because it's mostly a repeat of 01:04:155 (1,2,3) - these 1/4s.
* 01:07:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Again a random jump section. Do you know that 01:08:955 - this sliderend has a vocal sound, which you generally followed for the entire map?
* 01:21:105 (1,2) - Why only these are stacked? Others are all spaced out.

Not only the rhythm is the problem, but also the jumps really don't make any patterns and just 'goes' somewhere comfortable to hit. Look how randomly placed these jumps are: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7276599

So in my opinion, you really should rework your diffs and make them more logical, both on the rhythms and the placements.

Vetoing the bubble until I see some improvement on joker-'s diffs.

Hope you can improve this map a lot!

Let me jump to the conclusion. I determined to delete my Extra diff.
I've never snapped temporary for your suggestions. i give a full account with reasons
First, If my Extra diff haves many issues, I determined to delete it before looking for mods. Anyway, i didn't plan to make Ex diff except Adv and Hard ones.
But it's late to gather guest difficulties, then i made it to killing time.
Secondly, the extra don't satisfy me at all. And i don't have any motivations to remap it to be better tbh.

Your opinions is absolutely useful for me and i'll utilize to map extra next time! I appreciate your considering!

~~WIP replying~~
edit1: done remap Advanced
edit2: done replying mod and all updated

Last edited by Eir_DELETED 2017-02-11T05:40:21+00:00, edited 5 times in total.

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thzz 2017-02-09T19:06:18+00:00

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Left 2017-02-10T07:08:36+00:00

fixed last one to 3-3-2, became Tenko pattern

모딩감사합니다~

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DeletedUser_7370134

DeletedUser_7370134 2017-02-10T08:17:34+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Asami's Insane]
* 00:16:305 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - I think there should be more concrete emphasis on 00:16:305 - 00:16:755 - 00:17:205 - 00:17:805 - than other sounds. Actually except for these, the drums are not even that strong. I think Left represented this alright. Also add NC on 00:17:205 (4) - because there's a loud sound like other NCs.
reworked these jumps for the better drum-enphasize,and I don't like NCing frequently so much,except for my visual preference(01:34:305 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - is an example of that),so i NCed only 00:17:505 - .
* 00:19:005 - From here your NC usage is kinda unstable. 00:19:905 - 00:22:305 - NCs are used there but suddenly not on 00:24:705 - 00:27:105 - 00:29:505 - added NC on those
* 00:37:305 (1) - This NC looks spammy since I don't see/hear anything special there?removed,just by mistake

Pretty nice diff, I'm impressed.thanks

and ended the last epinner on 01:40:155 - .

thanks for the mod Doyak!

code

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[Metadata]
Title:Bokura no Seiza
TitleUnicode:ぼくらの星座
Artist:Sasaki Mirai
ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
Creator:joker-
Version:Asami's Insane
Source:星恋＊ティンクル
Tags:eroge opening Akitoshi Corinn Yohanes yaldo_27 -lolist- Nanashima Asami Left
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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Yohanes

1,285 posts

Joined February 2014

Yohanes 2017-02-10T11:42:34+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Yohanes' Insane]
* 00:16:155 (1,2) - Swap NC, because 2 is a new start.
* 00:22:605 (4,5,6) - This sounds a little bad because there is a clear beat on 00:22:905 - while not on 00:23:055 - . You can do something like 00:20:355 (5) - instead.
* 00:29:505 - From here, the NC should be like http://puu.sh/tVmgn/5b56f417f1.jpg , or is there a reason to not do this? Changed it into something more consistent that also works well
* 00:55:905 - I would remove the break here since it's not really music being stopped, and rather makes players lose their guard because it's too short.
* 01:15:105 (6,1) - Swap NC? No, because 01:15:555 - is much stronger in sound (cymbal and stuff) while 01:15:105 - are essentially still the same with the previous one

Something I feel sad about you diff is the usage of 1/2 sliders on the kiai. 00:57:105 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - During this part, the rhythm is mainly constructed with 1/2 sliders while some of them being two circles instead. But I think you could do more than this. For example, you can hear 01:00:855 - 01:01:455 - has some additional clear drums that most other red ticks do not have. I just don't want to make it too difficult considering that this is actually a light insane (because i also changed 01:05:505 - into something more difficult). I know that those inconsistency could hurt this diff, but imo as long I still follow the vocal as the base on my diff, that still works fine

Also 01:05:505 (1,2,3) - didn't feel really good to represent all the 1/4 drums on the background, as this is a proper Insane diff. I think you should at least do something with them, to show that this part is different from the rest of the kiai that fits well to the 1/2 sliders.

Others are fixed
Thank you Doyak!

Also, I don't think the difference in the slow part is that big of a deal. Because there are multiple layers of sound that could be mapped. And I think using one that works with what mappers are following in each difficulty is better rather than changing it just to make it slightly more intense. Besides, there are other mapset (I know, I know, comparing one map to another isn't always good, but there's especially similar map in this case) that have more difficult pattern on insane compared to extra. For example, handsome's Monster map. On the calm part, Bearizm mapped his Insane much more intense compared to any other (harder) difficulty. I know its not an apple to apple comparison but I hope this could get my point across

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ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
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Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-02-11T06:59:53+00:00

Doyak wrote:
[Akitoshi's Normal]
* 01:21:105 (1,2) - This felt a bit weird, because considering how the drums are, it's like this: http://puu.sh/tViz8/37583327cc.jpg So keeping the focus on all the 1's is better, to keep track on the most important sounds. tried to pick those drums. but my rhythm is now like http://puu.sh/tY2Fq/3cb8a48a07.jpg cuz all 1/2 slider/circles aren't nice as consistency as the diff itself imo

thanks!

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TitleUnicode:ぼくらの星座
Artist:Sasaki Mirai
ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
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Eir_DELETED

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Eir_DELETED 2017-02-11T07:09:53+00:00

All updated!

Doyak

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Doyak 2017-02-11T07:16:48+00:00

Give me a kudosu then I recheck :3

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Eir_DELETED 2017-02-11T07:17:38+00:00

Doyak wrote:
Give me a kudosu then I recheck :3

sry>< i forgot it...

Doyak

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Doyak 2017-02-11T16:27:08+00:00

I see a great improvement on your diffs, good job!

Though I'm still not quite fond of nominating this myself, so I'll just cancel the veto here, so that you can ask Azusa to rebubble. Getting a few more mods would be good as well.

Also here are some extra mod.

@Akitoshi: Oh I should have shown you what I wanted. The way you changed look a bit hard to be the lowest diff... so I just wanted http://puu.sh/tYyxv/d4e1f70454.jpg this kind of thing, because I think those beats are the most important ones, instead of 01:21:705 - 01:22:605 -

@Advanced: 00:40:305 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - looks too long for no reason. Why don't you make 00:41:355 - 00:42:555 - empty like other similar parts, so that you can give a bit of rest to the players on a calm part?
01:04:155 (7) - This should be NC'd, like you did on Hard.

@Hard: 00:15:255 - I really hope there is a note here. Since 00:12:855 (1,2,3) - was quite focused on the drums, ignoring some important drums on a same part doesn't feel consistent.

Good luck~

Akitoshi

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Akitoshi 2017-02-11T17:36:49+00:00

@Doyak lol sry, I think it's alright now. Thank you!

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323,23,24405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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263,29,34905,2,0,P|207:25|167:40,1,89
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355,239,37605,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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24,231,38805,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,310,39105,2,0,P|129:318|196:279,2,133.5,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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261,188,43605,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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285,30,47205,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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285,30,48405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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64,322,76005,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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349,316,81105,6,0,L|205:308,1,133.5,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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102,258,85155,1,0,0:0:0:0:
182,295,85455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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469,197,89955,2,0,P|497:138|463:62,1,133.5,0|8,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,132,90705,6,0,B|319:130|319:130|271:149,2,133.5,6|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
469,197,91905,2,0,P|496:245|470:327,2,133.5,2|0|8,0:0|3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
407,132,93105,6,0,P|380:180|406:262,2,133.5,2|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
477,76,94305,2,0,P|443:52|391:45,1,89,8|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
359,63,94755,1,4,0:0:0:0:
359,63,94905,2,0,L|258:59,1,89,8|8,3:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
225,59,95355,5,6,0:0:0:0:
256,192,95505,12,0,100155,0:0:0:0:

Eir_DELETED

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Eir_DELETED 2017-02-11T21:51:05+00:00

thanks Doyak! All applied :3

Lami

1,756 posts

Joined June 2011

Lami 2017-02-13T18:52:14+00:00

Asami's insane ≒ fyy's insane

DeletedUser_7370134

DeletedUser_7370134 2017-02-14T00:54:26+00:00

Lami wrote:
Asami's insane ≒ fyy's insane

fyy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>asami

Eir_DELETED

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Eir_DELETED 2017-02-15T14:22:50+00:00

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DeletedUser_7370134

DeletedUser_7370134 2017-02-17T08:10:19+00:00

thx joker!

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fuk u joker

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 2017-02-28T14:24:23+00:00

via in-game

[Advanced]

01:17:505 (3,4) - 難易度が急に下がるのに少々違和感。このくらいの音取りでどうですか？
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01:21:105 (1) - このsliderのhitsoundだけ他のslider(2,3,4)と異なっているのが気になる。
01:24:555 - clapも足しちゃいましょう、曲がそうなってるしサビのラストなのでokです
01:25:155 (5,1) - この2つのslider、パートの境目（サビとアウトロの境界線）を跨いでいるので、別の形にしてあげた方が好き。01:26:355 (2) - に合わせてみては？
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[Hard]

00:24:705 (4) - Advとの差別化の意味もこめて、こういう音取りはどうでしょう。00:25:605 - をclickableにしたいっていう気持ちもあります。
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01:00:105 (3,1) - ここのflowがsliderの向きに対して反対方向なのが気になる。sliderのrepeatを外して、1/1slider + circle + circle にしてこんな感じとか。リズムが分解出来るのでflowの違和感が却って好都合になります。
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01:17:205 - add finish?
01:19:005 (2) - 3点ともwhistleつけて良いんじゃないかな、01:19:905 (1,2,3) - での急な出現はちょっと違和感。
01:21:105 (1) - Advと同じ
01:22:005 (3,5) - NCのパターンが半分になっているので、この2箇所のどちらかにadd NCかなぁ、自分なら(3)につけます。

軽くですがこんなところで。
good luck!

Eir_DELETED

Topic Starter

Eir_DELETED 2017-03-05T03:25:55+00:00

thzz wrote:
via in-game

[Advanced]
01:17:505 (3,4) - 難易度が急に下がるのに少々違和感。このくらいの音取りでどうですか？ Advというdiffのことも考えて、01:17:805 - の音がスライダーエンドでも拾ってあげるべき音ではないと思ったのでkeepでお願いします
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01:21:105 (1) - このsliderのhitsoundだけ他のslider(2,3,4)と異なっているのが気になる。ここの音がほかのところと違うように聞こえるんですが僕だけなんですかね…？直しました
01:24:555 - clapも足しちゃいましょう、曲がそうなってるしサビのラストなのでokです　そうですね入れました！
01:25:155 (5,1) - この2つのslider、パートの境目（サビとアウトロの境界線）を跨いでいるので、別の形にしてあげた方が好き。01:26:355 (2) - に合わせてみては？　とてもいいですね、その通りに変えました！
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[Hard]
00:24:705 (4) - Advとの差別化の意味もこめて、こういう音取りはどうでしょう。00:25:605 - をclickableにしたいっていう気持ちもあります。　無理にスローパートでAdvと差別化を図る必要はないかなぁ…と個人的に思うのでkeepでお願いします><
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01:00:105 (3,1) - ここのflowがsliderの向きに対して反対方向なのが気になる。sliderのrepeatを外して、1/1slider + circle + circle にしてこんな感じとか。リズムが分解出来るのでflowの違和感が却って好都合になります。ここすごく悩みました、リピートにしてたのはボーカルが少し伸びてるのと、このようにしたらちょっとやりにくい+ 1/2 spamになるっていうのでそうしてたんですが、とりあえずその通りに直してみました。また変更するかもしれません。
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01:17:205 - add finish?　入れました
01:19:005 (2) - 3点ともwhistleつけて良いんじゃないかな、01:19:905 (1,2,3) - での急な出現はちょっと違和感。入れました
01:21:105 (1) - Advと同じ入れました
01:22:005 (3,5) - NCのパターンが半分になっているので、この2箇所のどちらかにadd NCかなぁ、自分なら(3)につけます。ここだけペースがゆるかやかになってるパートなので、2 mesureでつけてます。ほかの誰かに言われたら直します
軽くですがこんなところで。
good luck!

modの返信が大幅に遅れてしまって申し訳ございませんでした
いきなりのmod req受けてくれてありがとうございました！

alacat

osu! Alumni

3,872 posts

Joined May 2011

alacat 2017-03-12T10:36:47+00:00

from discord

[Advanced]

00:00:705 - ここの赤線の上の緑線は不要なので削除しましょう
00:05:505 (3) - スライダーの終点にwhistleを追加？00:08:355 (4) - ここの終点でピアノ以外の音にもつけてるみたいなので
00:17:805 (4) - 少し形が目立つので00:10:605 (4) - ここと同じようなスライダーを使用してみてはどうでしょう？
00:18:705 (1) - 上の提案に合わせてここの角度も調節してみると綺麗になります。
SPOILER
00:32:355 (4) - 終点にwhistleあるとよりピアノに合うと思います。
00:33:105 (1) - ^ 折り返し
00:36:555 - 前のパート00:34:905 (4,5,1) - で歌詞をフォローしていたので00:36:555 - ここに音が無いと違和感がありました。
00:48:705 (4) - 始点にfinishを追加？00:47:505 (1) - ここの始点と同じような音があったので
01:15:105 (4) - 終点にwhistleを追加？01:15:555 (5) - ここ終点と同じような音が聞こえました。
01:18:105 (4) - スライダーの終点に音が何も無いのでさびしいです。clapまたはdrumの音を使ってみてはいかがでしょう？
01:18:780 - Break入れるとHPドレイン減らなくて済みますがあまり長い時間ではないのでお任せします。
01:27:555 (5) - ,01:28:305 (1) - ,01:32:355 (5) - drumのみではなくdrum-whistleのほうがより音楽に合っていると思います。

[Hard]

00:12:855 (1) - ここからnew comboが一章節ごとに追加されていますがこれより前のパターンと同じようにした方がいいと思います。後半の00:49:905 (1,2,3) - このあたりも数字が短くなってしまっています。もし修正する場合は他の部分も参考にしてみてください。
00:34:305 (3) - 00:33:105 (1,2,3) - ３つまとめて見るとあまり見た目が良くないので(3)をもう少し上に移動してみてはいかがでしょう？
00:36:405 (2) - 始点にwhistleを追加？
01:35:355 (6) - 00:54:705 (1) - ここと同じようにnew comboを追加？
Advancedの難易度で指摘したhitsoundに関しては省略しました。この難易度も確認してみてください～

Previewpointがsnapされて無いみたいなので修正するといいと思います。頑張ってください～！

Eir_DELETED

Topic Starter

Eir_DELETED 2017-03-12T10:39:30+00:00

alacatさんmodありがとうございます>< 全部直しました！
すいません、今日中にはmodが書けないかもしれません…明日までには絶対にmodします！

Koiyuki

Beatmap Nominator

2,539 posts

Joined March 2013

Koiyuki 2017-03-13T15:07:29+00:00

Akitoshi
00:09:105 (1,2) - new rc mentioned to aviod overlaps in the lowest diff, i recommend you to remove 00:09:105 (1) -
00:13:305 (4,5) - 00:15:705 (4,5) - 01:10:305 (3,4,5) - 01:25:755 (6,1) - 01:34:305 (2,3,4) - also separate these kinds of stakck patterns

Yohane
00:54:780 - why not use spin here but at 00:36:780 (1) - ? imo 00:54:780 - fits more with spin

Asami
00:43:005 (2,4) - the overlap looks quite uncomfortable among the patterns...

nazi things.

Yohanes

1,285 posts

Joined February 2014

Yohanes 2017-03-13T15:47:16+00:00

spinner added, thank you Yuki!
Also cleaned up some minor stuff

update

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
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Akitoshi

2,687 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-03-13T16:31:23+00:00

removed the 00:09:105 - but I didn't separate those stacks on circle into slider sequence as it's still lowest diff (or even not if it's me), uhm let's assume E~N players are mouse only. Unstacking them might be get hard as they need more movements.

I can fix those as well if you still disagree with my opinions though, thank you for checking!

ﾝｧｰ!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56475
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 18705,37905,47505,95505,100305
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Bokura no Seiza
TitleUnicode:ぼくらの星座
Artist:Sasaki Mirai
ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
Creator:joker-
Version:Akitoshi's Normal
Source:星恋＊ティンクル
Tags:eroge opening Akitoshi Corinn Yohanes yaldo_27 Nanashima Asami Left
BeatmapID:1143995
BeatmapSetID:539139

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3.5
ApproachRate:4.5
SliderMultiplier:0.89
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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DeletedUser_7370134

DeletedUser_7370134 2017-03-14T04:47:06+00:00

fixed,thanks Koiyuki!

code

osu file format v14

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Title:Bokura no Seiza
TitleUnicode:ぼくらの星座
Artist:Sasaki Mirai
ArtistUnicode:佐々木未来
Creator:joker-
Version:Asami's Insane
Source:星恋＊ティンクル
Tags:eroge opening Akitoshi Corinn Yohanes yaldo_27 Nanashima Asami Left
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