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[ -Scarlet- ] wrote:

水mod来了

• [Some word that I have no idea what the meaning is]

1. 00:26:543 (3,4) - Maybe Ctrl+G this? Fits the downbeat here nicely followed up with the nice 00:27:060 (6,7,8) - cross flow emphasis on (5)
2. 00:35:853 - wew, I almost went deaf listening to this with hitsound LOL, should lower it to 50% ish or edit the volume of the hitsound manually ask thzz Lol
3. 00:39:474 (4) - Feels like the typical curvy fits nicer than sharp end slider like 00:44:129 (1) - dont see any problem with either of them
4. 00:45:508 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2) - Try this rhythm? https://puu.sh/u6Vj7/e8130d7953.jpg The 1/4 slider starts out nicely with that sound (no fking idea how to describe it LOL) at 00:45:853 - , end with obvious 1/4 beat with clickable stream (make it more spaced). Example https://puu.sh/u6Vu3/2798730a08.jpg dont like
5. 00:50:854 (2,3,4,5) - Shouldn't this rhythm fits the song a lot better? https://puu.sh/u6VG7/b7fb5a4b59.jpg Since there's loud beat at 00:51:198 - , better to make here clickable than 00:51:715 - . Also there's that triple beat 00:51:801 - that you might wanna follow vocal > connects to instrument , dont see any problem here either
6. 01:11:198 (6) - Blanket this nicer like what you did at 01:08:956 (1) - (small stuff) not supposed to be blanket , the matter is the spacing (5) -> (6)
7. 01:16:887 (1) - Hmm, I think it would be nicer to start this spinner at 01:17:060 - , not following the vocal but that background sound instead (I wish I know how to describe it) keep
8. 01:26:887 (1) - Maybe extend till 01:27:318 - and silence it? dont like it
9. 01:33:267 (3,4) - Quite forced 1/4 slider here I think, back to simple 1/1 or 3/4 would fit the loud wub nice enough i dont think so!!
10. 02:53:784 (1) - This wub slider should make it like, flow somewhere rather than staying on the same spot since the current one is somewhat cramp and triangular, which more people will just hold the slider somewhat on the same spot before releasing. Maybe give a flow like https://puu.sh/u6WSH/2f6c6548ba.jpg fitting the song better (At least for me) the slider path actually leads you to the next slider so i dont really get what you mean staying at the same spot ,it just pulls off your cursor a little bit which reflect the sound which i had put so much thoughts on wub things around here
11. 02:54:474 (3,4) - Could at least make it more interesting like placing wherelse with higher SV? The way you're mapping now is as if the sound here is nsimilar than 02:54:129 (1,2) - when it is obviously different and more intense i think you dont really understand what im trying to do , its a switch of instrument which this part remains the same instrument as previous and the (1,2) are new instrument which jumps in in loud volume which i increased sv to give emphasis and to highlight the next curve slider so it gives the right feeling
12. 02:56:370 (2,3) - Eh, 1/4 slider definitely fits the song a lot better i like it with 2 circles better
13. 03:03:525 (1,2) - The (2) felt kinda forcing when the beat at 03:03:784 - is rather soft compared to 03:03:956 (3,4) - . Remove 03:03:784 (2) - then extend the slider to 03:03:784 - definitely sounds a lot nicer the force is the idea!
14. 03:43:612 (1,1) - No need NC here at all le. Is not like there's any change of SV or fits the song at all its about consistency which you never noticed why i did it on 01:04:646 (1,1,1) -
15. 04:50:193 (4) - I think the gradual decrease in spacing doesn't work nicely here especially for this, when the piano are actually louder (I actually wish I know all the music terms lel). Actually I think it better to Ctrl+G 04:49:676 (1,2,3,4) - Instead works for me , increasing spacing looks really ugly

siap

fix both hitsound z
unreplied = fix
thanks for mod scarlet!!

Labradorite

00:19:818 (2,3,4,1) - very varied spacings for every single objects, at least it seems like there should be more space between 00:19:818 (2,3) - rather than it have a smaller spacing as compared to 00:19:301 (1,2) - leading to the next held vocal, have it more of a emphasis rather than the previous one
00:24:129 (4) - in the song the slight change in the vocal is an extension of what is at 00:23:956 - have the slider closer to this object instead of the other? Plus 00:24:474 (5) - having it end at 00:24:646 is quite weird, there is nothing there. Since the vocals hold till the next bar, why not just extend it to end at 00:24:732 - closer to the next beat?
00:30:681 (3,4,5) - odd emphasis from the points to click the strong beats are at 00:30:681 and 00:31:025 - in a sense, something like this:
00:33:439 (2,3) - similarly 00:33:612 should not be the emphasis point, but rather 00:33:784 so swap around the circle and slider
00:39:301 (3,4) - the hold starts at 00:39:301 - another strong beat appears at 00:39:818 as well - you should swap the slider and circle
02:04:301 (4,1) - a bit more spacing like 02:02:232 (6,1)
02:48:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - give them more breathing space? There is not much room given at the moment to them and it feels more cramped:
03:07:232 (1) - maybe shorten it so you can add a note to make a triplet at 03:07:405 - ? Make a bigger impact on the note in the music there
03:28:267 - 03:35:163 - confusing use of the whistle and clap, also very heavy ended with the hitsounds, imbalance
03:42:060 (1,2,3) - the spacing is underwhelming, even comparing to 03:39:301 (1,2,3)
03:44:646 (1,2,3,4,1) - the decreasing spacing is ironic especially at 03:45:163 (4,1) - it's just not showing the right idea over, unlike even an evenly spaced pattern, with the decreasing pattern you usually try to emphasize a certain situation happening in the song, like eg. getting softer, but not really when you are having the vocal transfer over to a new verse
04:32:232 (3) - remove that clap at the slider start, have a clap at 04:32:060 (2)
04:37:233 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - no custom use for the xylophone notes? At least I am pretty sure 04:38:612 (1) - is the same as the custom clap 12
04:42:060 (5,6) - emphasis similar to 00:33:439 (2,3)
04:44:819 (5,1) - ^
04:45:508 (1,2,1,2) - sudden different NC change? Why do we not see it at 04:42:922 (2,3,4,1) with the same tune then? Then if it's because of a difference in pattern, then why was the pattern so drastically different that it required the NC change and does the music justify such a big change?
I also noticed some of the uniquely used NC just used in isolated locations while the music was similar in other places with normal NC use, with the difference in NC us notable

Good Luck with the map Ru MMKNN

neonat wrote:

Labradorite

00:24:129 (4) - in the song the slight change in the vocal is an extension of what is at 00:23:956 - have the slider closer to this object instead of the other? Plus 00:24:474 (5) - having it end at 00:24:646 is quite weird, there is nothing there. Since the vocals hold till the next bar, why not just extend it to end at 00:24:732 - closer to the next beat? vocal emp , also extending (5) doesnt play very nice to me especially when all the part here i didnt extend any of them
00:30:681 (3,4,5) - odd emphasis from the points to click the strong beats are at 00:30:681 and 00:31:025 - in a sense, something like this:

SPOILER

the reason im putting reverse slider here because of the next pattern which is all circle , so it doesnt really tense up at early stage
00:33:439 (2,3) - similarly 00:33:612 should not be the emphasis point, but rather 00:33:784 so swap around the circle and slider , the emphasis for piano is completely fine , also changing that to reverse slider makes things too idle since i dont like to repeat same thing every time
00:39:301 (3,4) - the hold starts at 00:39:301 - another strong beat appears at 00:39:818 as well - you should swap the slider and circle
02:04:301 (4,1) - a bit more spacing like 02:02:232 (6,1) theres a piano note on the red tick 00:39:474 - which im not ignoring , and i cant relate the spacing between these 2 sections ewe
03:28:267 - 03:35:163 - confusing use of the whistle and clap, also very heavy ended with the hitsounds, imbalance , used whistles for pianos the clap are for synths , i dont really hear anything weird here though.
03:44:646 (1,2,3,4,1) - the decreasing spacing is ironic especially at 03:45:163 (4,1) - it's just not showing the right idea over, unlike even an evenly spaced pattern, with the decreasing pattern you usually try to emphasize a certain situation happening in the song, like eg. getting softer, but not really when you are having the vocal transfer over to a new verse i dont really know how to say this , its a pattern i made of and it does play well and doesnt feel off when playing it , its visually is decreasing, doesnt actually stands out when playing it
04:32:232 (3) - remove that clap at the slider start, have a clap at 04:32:060 (2)
04:37:233 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - no custom use for the xylophone notes? At least I am pretty sure 04:38:612 (1) - is the same as the custom clap 12 had to consult with thzz since shes the one making the custom xylophones~
04:42:060 (5,6) - emphasis similar to 00:33:439 (2,3) does sounds same but the music vibe is different
04:44:819 (5,1) - ^ i really lower the spacing gradually as because of the outro which gives more feeling of ending the song and the music is getting slower and slower
I also noticed some of the uniquely used NC just used in isolated locations while the music was similar in other places with normal NC use, with the difference in NC us notable i did only 2 parts for the sudden piano emphasistion during a vocal mapping , other than that the nc changes are normal

Good Luck with the map Ru MMKNN

the removed points are fixed accordingly ~
thanks neonat!

drop some random opinions here

1. 04:48:956 (1,2) - 1/4 here is better, you might reduce hitsound volume if you wanna keep 1/8 here.
2. 01:27:577 (1) - split this to two reverse sliders would be better (i usually break at here
3. 01:32:405 (4,1) - why not combine them to a slider? seems 01:32:577 (1) - here's nothing to stress on. Same at 01:33:612 (5,1) -
4. 02:31:543 (1,2,3) - recommended to stack here, like what yo did at 01:50:163 (1,2,1) - ,or using a 1/4 slider like 01:39:474 (1) -

EDIT:found a silly grammar mistake

Lavender wrote:

drop some random opinions here

1. 04:48:956 (1,2) - 1/4 here is better, you might reduce hitsound volume if you wanna keep 1/8 here. did reduce both of them by 5% , no matter on what aspect i cant find 1/4 slider is better hear because its totally a burst fading sound ,??
2. 01:27:577 (1) - split this to two reverse sliders would be better (i usually break at here i already explained to you when you pm me and im not changing it no matter what , its part of the map i want people to have effort on reading it
3. 01:32:405 (4,1) - why combine them to a slider? seems 01:32:577 (1) - here's nothing to stress on. Same at 01:33:612 (5,1) - intentionally to make the strong beat snare stand out and highlight the main instrument at the same time
4. 02:31:543 (1,2,3) - recommended to stack here, like what yo did at 01:50:163 (1,2,1) - ,or using a 1/4 slider like 01:39:474 (1) - the music structure doesnt work the same even tho its almost the same part but the lead in into this part is very different and shouldnt be treat the same way

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neonat wrote:

Labradorite04:37:233 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - no custom use for the xylophone notes? At least I am pretty sure 04:38:612 (1) - is the same as the custom clap 12
you're right~ thx your opinion

keysound v2 here~
http://puu.sh/ukzry/7c48401a55.osz

ops accidentally kd'd
edit:ill upload when i get home w

updated

Laboradorite

00:14:474 (3,1) - This jump felt really big in comparison to the sound it was following.
00:33:956 (4,6) - Imo, Ctrl+G creates a better angle.
00:48:612 (3) - Should be snapped to 1/2 i think?
00:57:922 (1,2) - Could probably blanket this a bit better.
01:07:922 (1,1,1,1) - Make the SV increase more linear so the effect is even more noticeable? Right now 01:08:612 (1,1) - look almost the same cuz the SV increase is only 0.05x instead of 0.20x like the other sliders.
01:21:370 (3) - Omg, you didnt have to use all those slider-nodes!! xD. But I guess thsi works haha.
01:22:577 (4) - Maybe an NC here? It's been a while since an NC, and this combo is dragging on for a very long time.
01:37:922 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - <3
02:42:577 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Idk about this stream. It seems very uneven in spacing, and the curve looks a bit off too... Could you check this and see if its really what you intended? It could maybe use some polishing up.
03:26:715 (1,2,3) - Triangle pattern is a bit off. Doesn't look intentional
03:39:818 (2,3,1) - You could try positioning 3 in between the two slider-ends. Would look better aesthetically imo, but i guess thats kinda subjective
03:43:267 (1,1,1) - Could I ask what the NC spam is for? If there is a reason for the sliders to be NC'e d like that, it might be better to NC 03:44:301 (2) - as well so they feel like a separate combo rather than trailing out of the last slider.
04:18:612 (3,4,5) - The spacing here becomes smaller. Doesn't look intentional
04:32:232 (3,4,5) - Make this linear instead so you can create a structural consistency with 04:32:922 (7,8,1) -
04:42:922 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Quite hard to read. Especially when you switch from clockwise to counterclockwise. People will expect the flow to continue in the same direction in patterns like this.

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Well done. Call me back when you're ready!

Monstrata wrote:

Laboradorite


01:21:370 (3) - Omg, you didnt have to use all those slider-nodes!! xD. But I guess thsi works haha. it was before another shape but then i cut them it become into this xD
01:37:922 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - <3 <3
02:42:577 (7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Idk about this stream. It seems very uneven in spacing, and the curve looks a bit off too... Could you check this and see if its really what you intended? It could maybe use some polishing up. ah i want them to increase spacing per 1/2 beats but i messed up i think , i fixed the spacing as of now

03:43:267 (1,1,1) - Could I ask what the NC spam is for? If there is a reason for the sliders to be NC'e d like that, it might be better to NC 03:44:301 (2) - as well so they feel like a separate combo rather than trailing out of the last slider. umm im keeping consistency with earlier part 01:04:646 (1,1,1) - since its the transition from vocal to piano and im making the piano as highlight
04:32:232 (3,4,5) - Make this linear instead so you can create a structural consistency with 04:32:922 (7,8,1) - i changed this to kick slider after some self testplays , hope it works now uwu
Well done. Call me back when you're ready!

other points that are not mention are fixed as suggested!
thanks monstrata!

Bubbled!

thank you!

drum-sliderslide.wav
+drum-slidertick.wav
u cannot silence them both at the same time which is unrankable, so i popped it for now

and some minor stuffs
00:44:818 (3) - ctrl-g? spacing plus unpleasant movement here feels a bit too much for a calm section imo
01:15:853 (9) - whistle it, like 03:54:474 (7) -
04:43:267 (1) - pretty pointless nc?
04:59:846 - just wondering why is this soft sample

edit2: oh and u may also add some tags to specify its genre or sth

!!

...wait till fix for Garden's mod

M4M. My map to mod: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/452107

Let me see what I can do.

[Labradorite]

1. 01:09:474 (3,4,5) - highly recommend you use hitsound that can be clearly audible. Using keysounds on beats that doesn't belong to the music is really confusing. (yeah I mean 01:09:560 (4) - mostly)
2. 01:10:853 (3,4,5,6) - Shouldn't triplets be at circle 5/6 and 01:11:112 - ? I know you don't think that really comfortable but following music always takes priority to the one you made yourself. And also, same hitsound thing as above.
3. 01:38:439 (3,1) - the jump here seems larger than most slider jumps in kiai. slightly nerf it will make difficulty more balance imo
4. 01:47:405 (1) - you've followed mostly instrument beats on previous parts in kiai. So using a long slider to follow vocal while ignoring the strong drum on downbeat isn't the best option for me. Using 1/2 beats instead
5. 02:46:198 (5,6,7,8) - dislike this one for its sudden increase of spacing and harsh flow. you can see that you use a rather normal spacing for 02:43:439 (1,2,3,4) - the transition part, where you often do emphasis. But this place is just a regular vocal consecutive part. Don't see why it should be placed with much harder pattern. Find another 1/4 pattern which is suitable (smaller spacing or more convenient flow) for a vocal spike if you insist, but for me this part is no way to be specially emphasized.
6. 03:59:129 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ I would say this one has a more convenient flow. But the space variation and flow variation is weird. 1->2 is a tone down, same as 2->3, while 3->4 is a tone up and a clap emphasis, same as 4->5. So space between 1->2 should be significantly smaller than 3->4 in this part. I made an example here: 1->2 and 2->3 has a similar flow with smaller space, then a sharp reverse with big space for 3->4 and 4->5. This one feels more consistent with music for me.
7. 02:46:716 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - objects are too crowded here. I would rather move 02:47:577 (5,6,7) - upward for another pattern.
8. 03:57:232 (1,4) - ahh this overlap looks bad
9. 04:31:198 (2,1) - terrible blanket lol. fix it pls
10. 04:44:129 (1,1) - overlap which is not good looking.
11. hint: you cannot mute slidertick and sliderslide both, but you can use a sliderslide with smaller sound while still audible on calm parts. Current sliderslide at calm part is somewhat bothering lol.

EDIT: metadata source? I have no idea finding metadata for DnB songs.

fixed all garden's mod
deleted sliderside
04:59:846 - it was previously a spinner starts here but i changed to slider w w w w fixed
updated.

metadata/source = http://kamomesano.info/s001/
also stated in kamome sano's soundcloud the genre is stated pop ill just mention here , added some tags
also u need redl cuz i deleted sliderside so its no longer inaudibleill be replying the rest after work ~

F D Flourite wrote:

...wait till fix for Garden's mod

M4M. My map to mod: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/452107

Let me see what I can do.

[Labradorite]

1. 01:09:474 (3,4,5) - highly recommend you use hitsound that can be clearly audible. Using keysounds on beats that doesn't belong to the music is really confusing. (yeah I mean 01:09:560 (4) - mostly) i really dont find this problematic at all , nor player who played this or whoever modding this before havent noticing its inaudible or somewhat , so ill keep it as it is
2. 01:38:439 (3,1) - the jump here seems larger than most slider jumps in kiai. slightly nerf it will make difficulty more balance imo
3. 01:47:405 (1) - you've followed mostly instrument beats on previous parts in kiai. So using a long slider to follow vocal while ignoring the strong drum on downbeat isn't the best option for me. Using 1/2 beats instead disagree , i really put up on some vocal because following dnb music 100% is tiring to play and its not fun repeating 1/2 and 5 sets of 1/4 notes all the time , so i slip in some vocal for smooth transition and it worked for me
4. 02:46:198 (5,6,7,8) - dislike this one for its sudden increase of spacing and harsh flow. you can see that you use a rather normal spacing for 02:43:439 (1,2,3,4) - the transition part, where you often do emphasis. But this place is just a regular vocal consecutive part. Don't see why it should be placed with much harder pattern. Find another 1/4 pattern which is suitable (smaller spacing or more convenient flow) for a vocal spike if you insist, but for me this part is no way to be specially emphasized.
5. 03:59:129 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ I would say this one has a more convenient flow. But the space variation and flow variation is weird. 1->2 is a tone down, same as 2->3, while 3->4 is a tone up and a clap emphasis, same as 4->5. So space between 1->2 should be significantly smaller than 3->4 in this part. I made an example here: 1->2 and 2->3 has a similar flow with smaller space, then a sharp reverse with big space for 3->4 and 4->5. This one feels more consistent with music for me.
   i disagree with both of the point you cant put them as single object to single object , its an emphasis on the whole part , and the intense build up fits for me nicely it might not seem special to you but the part i mapped this is the end of chorus which is connecting to the wub part which matching the intensity just the right amount
6. 02:46:716 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - objects are too crowded here. I would rather move 02:47:577 (5,6,7) - upward for another pattern. doesnt play good for me, crowded object place isnt a wrong way of mapping ,its just i want the cursor to circulate there

the rest unstated are fixed accordingly , also i dont know how to deal with the sliderside thing u mentioned earlier so ill wait your respond then
updated as for now

http://puu.sh/uN7J9/087b5bcda9.wav

soft-sliderslide.wav

use it wherever you want. this one has a lower volume than the default one but still audible.

updated

F D Flourite wrote:

hint: you cannot mute slidertick and sliderslide both, but you can use a sliderslide with smaller sound while still audible on calm parts. Current sliderslide at calm part is somewhat bothering lol.

so that implies the very first and last section where u used D:C1 i guess, just copy an audible sliderslide with lower volume (which is soft-sliderslide now) and rename it drum-sliderslide and everything goes fine

ye the last update was for that lol .

b.but i have redl'ed and didnt find the drum-sliderslide in file folder

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now theres a drum-sliderslide but hey it's the 44b one we're coming back to zero xdd
replace current one with the above 101kb file i mean so it's audible
sorry if you feel bothered, probably it's my side that failed to convey the thing correctly..

edit: bubble #1 back

bubble #2~

since there's no time limit between 2 bubbles

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