And note that ar10 is a quite different evolution of Ar9 that generates a map with DT or non mods
Play HR + HD It's much easier. I'm playing without HD to try to improve more fast. I hope that helps. I'm no sure, but playing hidden it's so easy to know when to tap and by doing it i think I'm not training my reactions anymore. Maybe If i play first with HD+HR and play after without i can do a much better reading. I don't know If that going to help or i'm just learning the maps and the rythms and playing them using memory.Motteke wrote:
Read ar10 is not so difficult, I can personally play maps better with HR because seeing one circle right away from another is better than seeing several.
If you do not do it yet, you can try using HD, regularly these two mods go hand in hand for the most difficult maps and it is because of the fact that it removes the distraction that causes the proximity circle causes in ar10 because it goes something fast.
I like low CS and high OD, not only AR10. If i edit the map like that will be the same than playing HR.Sayorie wrote:
Go play AR10 nomod if you want AR10. HR is hard because of OD10 imo. If you really want more AR10 then edit maps to AR10 and play them.
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I totally need to learn how to read complex paterns and improve reaction time reading them. I think my general reaction time, aim and raw aim are good. I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly. I play maps like tengaku (rage) using HR and watching the replay 0'5 speed i can see easy i totally do well things like hard jumps. I miss when i get losed cause i don't read that part.markii wrote:
Disgusting HDHR farmer reporting in!
get good at nomod, your fundamental skills (reading complex patterns, rhythm sense, aim, accuracy, reaction time) all probably need to be way better, guessing by your profile, playing something you can play comfortably, but also pushes your limits is the best way to improve, not reactively playing maps that are too hard for you, it will all come naturally as you progress, it may sounds repetitive at this point, but play more, play a variety, and don't stop playing HR if it's fun, just don't expect to improve quickly by trying to brute force learn something you don't have the foundation set for. first and for most you need cursor control, aim, and acc, then worry about approach rates, because that will be all you have left to learn, learning to acc before you can read makes no sense, and learning to aim at circles off reaction instead of reading is going to be vastly harder than aiming at circles you understand thoroughly. Personally, I tried to brute force learn HR for 3 months with very little progress, dropped it got better at the overall game, came back and HR wasn't nearly that tough to pick up, and was vastly more enjoyable, now I basically never play nomod, unless it's high star rating or high base AR.
Sorry for not splitting up the wall of text into easier to read sections, but fuck it there's some advice in there.
Edit: I just re-read that and my go I must be tired, because there isn't a period anywhere in there. If any part of my tremendous run on sentence doesn't make sense I'll clarify, just lmk.
Why are you sure my accuracy sucks? My acc isn't the problem, i think, but I'm trying to get better at it anyways. I'm trying to improve accuracy until 99% on everysingle thing i can read, not scared about acc problems.[Taiga] wrote:
HR is all about accuracy, your sucks, deal with it.
You will never learn HR if you don't fix your acc.
uh that's not how it works, you'll be stuck with HD (probably, like me)ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
Maybe If i play first with HD+HR and play after without i can do a much better reading.
Then you won't be able to do HR on most maps, only pure jump maps.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly.
You play nomod jfcManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I miss when i get losed cause i don't read that part.
How can i improve the reading of complex patterns? Playing EASY mod? Half Time learning patterns what i can't read? Retry 100 times the pattern until i read it? Playing them with HD? Doing the pattern step by step? I don't know how to improve the reading. Maybe memory them only going to be usefull playing that map but i'll have same problem with next one.
It will be.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
My acc isn't the problem
This, tbh I've seen some people who played HR since they're 100k ranks and they're still being a really good 4 digit HR player now so it's definitely possible. Though honestly I would much rather be able to do a map nomod first then put HR on it.Railey2 wrote:
if you don't care about ranks, just play only AR10 if thats most fun for you.
You'll completely lose your ability to play lower AR's, but that doesn't really matter if you're just about AR10.
Don't bother with nomod, just play HR and AR10.
Play more maps and sightread them more. The more maps you play the more accustomed you are to different styles/pattern and you're much more likely to hit them when seeing it again than needing to understand the pattern first. And that's probably why most people practice with nomod first and get used to many patterns, because at AR 10 you're more to react than "see circles, understand what to do, click accordingly".ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
How can i improve the reading of complex patterns? Playing EASY mod?
This, tbh I've seen some people who played HR since they're 100k ranks and they're still being a really good 4 digit HR player now so it's definitely possible. Though honestly I would much rather be able to do a map nomod first then put HR on it.Core question is - how many of them are able to play properly complex maps (eg. mainly camellia) and how many are just farmed by overrated farm maps (eg. haitai / no title)?
Why are you talking like you know me? I'm playing since 2013, i'm not going to quite even if i don't improve. If you're going to talk shit without know people better shut the fuck up.[Taiga] wrote:
He is another delusional player who think that spamming HR at certain point will make him better.
Expect him to come here (if he doesnt quit) in half year and cry how to fix acc / reading.
We know you better than you know yourself.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
Why are you talking like you know me? I'm playing since 2013, i'm not going to quite even if i don't improve. If you're going to talk shit without know people better shut the fuck up.
stop being so self-absorbed and accept your mistakesManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I'm playing since 2013
lol apply cold water to burn area.Sayorie wrote:
stop being so self-absorbed and accept your mistakesManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I'm playing since 2013
no wonder you're stuck for 4 years, heck, I started clicking circles around one year ago
Oh well...[Taiga] wrote:
I guess one find fun in overrated easy maps.
when you see bad acc, you think, "man, i suck," and then you play worseMomiji wrote:
why are people in this thread acting like od10 makes you play worse?
if i get 90 ur with near perfect normal distribution of hits on two 500 circle + 500 slider maps, one with od8 and one with od10 - they will be different acc, but same play. gg.
i hear a lot of bullshit like od11 won't help you get better acc because you're getting 88% so that's shit acc so you can't improve
or od0 won't help you get better acc because you never know when you hit incorrectly so you can't improve
and i'm just like "turn the hitsounds on you retards"
^Sayorie wrote:
Because going straight to OD10 is quite unforgiving.
Why not go along the OD ladder to make it easier?
How am I ever going to bench press 100kgs without benching 100kgs? Hmm... I wonder.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
And how I'm going to improve playing HR without playing it? I don't improve faster playing it? I don't understand it.
No.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I don't have any problem with patterns.
No. https://scr.hu/7d42n6ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I máster AR 9, that was the only AR what i play for almost 2 years.
ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I don't know man, i feel like isn't the time what i have, cause to acc x300 AR10 i have to wait a little so my reactions and speed are totally fine to play inanes+extras HR
No.ManuelOsuPlayer wrote:
I totally need to learn how to read complex paterns and improve reaction time reading them. I think my general reaction time, aim and raw aim are good. I can do only jumps maps with HR perfectly.
B-but OP can acc od7 maps with 98% accuracy, he is the prodigy, you could say the next Bikko.[Taiga] wrote:
HR is all about accuracy, your sucks, deal with it.
You will never learn HR if you don't fix your acc.
I'm already passing 6*+ maps with HR and got a lot of fc on other server. I think you're a bit to late.Rythmbomb wrote:
I'd suggest playing maps without HR at first. Just go into editor; choose a song, start editing, and then go to song setup and change the AR to 10. It will help because you won't have to deal with the OD or HP. Then after you are comfortable, start using HR for a while, try doing jump maps with minor triples or streams. After that you can try streams. After you are done playing stuff like that you can try HD but for me personally HDHR is harder than just HR right now, but I am still learning how to read AR 10 and so far it is going great. You just have to practice a lot. Good luck!