You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.Sakura wrote:
Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
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Sakura wrote:
My own words is that i am more disinterested and disconnected from games as scum.beeboy123 wrote:
Your own words is you solve via town hunting and that falls apart as scum.
Those are your words and all your play suggests against town hunting this game.
You literally just don't know how to play as scum with your new play style and it shows this game.
You can ask this to ANYONE that knows my meta.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>you can't town hunt as scum so you push people instead this game
>ask anyone if I am interested as scum
Wow much defense, very point I was making.
You very much are engaged this game just not in the way you usually are as town.
You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
But i didnt scurmead you there.beeboy123 wrote:
You did all of street fighter mafia through POE and VCA you pressured other people 0 times.Sakura wrote:
Like Street fighter mafia am i right?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2nd, Hika, abraker and Jess were part of my PoE when i made the case on Hika, at that time Frosty gave me the possibility that Hika was faking confusion so i looked into it, i said that at the very start of my post, after further interactions with Hika i figured she was probably not scum, you had also been away and i had this weird feeling in my head due to you having come to the same conclusions i had, and then decided to forget about the game and not pursue anything, town beeboy pushes things harder, scum beeboy invents BS to survive.
>I have never seen you make a case on other people after you started town huntingSakura wrote:
Because i totally didnt out of Magical Girl mafia because i couldnt WotC Jessbeeboy123 wrote:
I have still never seen you treat other players (ie Hika and Jess) that way before.
Because you've totally never seen me make a case on someone else? Oh right i made a case on you in pieguyn game.
>but beeboy I made a case on you
Well good thing I acknowledged you have made cases on me before.
I didnt townhunt in pieguyn game either.beeboy123 wrote:
You aren't town hunting there is a drastic change in your play style this game despite the fact you spent day 1 arguing you where town hunting.
I also didn't townhunt in semi-nightless after D1.
Guess what alignment i flipped on both of those games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
but pieguyn mafia you where do apathetic it doesn't really count.
I wasnt in semi night less but that is like 1 game out of like 10 I have seen you in with your town hunting meta I could read it cause it is prolly more scum bs on your end.
I wasnt in semi night less but that is like 1 game out of like 10 I have seen you in with your town hunting meta I could read it cause it is prolly more scum bs on your end.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 1#p8168571 <- totes not a case.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p8127615 <- totes wasnt townhunting on D1.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8297044 <- Take a wild guess at what my replacement flipped.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p8127615 <- totes wasnt townhunting on D1.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p8297044 <- Take a wild guess at what my replacement flipped.
All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
Wow you made 1 case in 30 games on your alt.
Wow I am wrong that totally justifies you pushing literally anyone until you can see what sticks.
Wow I am wrong that totally justifies you pushing literally anyone until you can see what sticks.
Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.
Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.
Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wow 1 case in 30 games means my meta is bs wow.Sakura wrote:
All you're doing is bringing up "meta"
It is already proven that your meta assesment is BS.
So what's left?
This game.
That doesn't even mean you where playing aggressively (which you weren't really doing in that game)
Like you have never played this aggressively before and your meta doesn't back that up. Hell your "I am active as scum" meta you brought up actually goes against you.
Both those games you replaced on your main where you don't solve via passive play and town hunting so my meta isn't bs.Sakura wrote:
Not to mention there's also Tarot where i made a case on Wisdom on D2.
There's also EoSD where i started pushing ppl hard even on D1 after townthunting for a bit.
Again your meta assesment is BS.
If you're really not scum, then you gotta start looking elsewhere and prove to us that you're town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And you are the one that needs to town it up not me.
Your meta assesment is BS if there are exceptions, which means, what you're saying i only do as scum i've done as town.
so it is BS.
Stop moving the goalpost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
so it is BS.
Stop moving the goalpost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
I could've sworn you said this beforebeeboy123 wrote:
It's the same bullshit pie and zmuffin where spouting that you and b1rd are saying this game
Oh yeah you did.
You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
read tomorrow
You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?Sakura wrote:
You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And all your full hearted day 1 play?
I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯beeboy123 wrote:
Compared to your full hearted commitments of trying to lynch anyone you can?Sakura wrote:
You said you had a scumread on Hika, where were you when i was attacking her?
You said you had a scumread on abraker, where were you when he was attacking me?
You've literally NOT commited to any of your reads except Jess, and that... was very half hearted commitment.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And all your full hearted day 1 play?
I was getting what I wanted in terms of the Jess why would I need to pressure Hika?
Why would I be scum like you and just push anyone I can when I can push my top scum read.
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushingSakura wrote:
You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I mean sure, copying my reads is the exact perfect natural read progression a townie would have, totally.
>Everyonebeeboy123 wrote:
I gave my reads based on everything that had happened, I dont like catching up as town so I didn't reply to everything because what is the point of you have my reads and you very much just would lynxh everyone which is much worse then "vote parking" or w/e scum bs you are pushingSakura wrote:
You still have yet to explain why you ignored everything that was happening, sure i know you had irl issues, but that doesnt give you the right to come in here and complain about scumreads on you when pushed and then continue to vote park Jess.
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
You haven't Denied anything I said thoughSakura wrote:
So apparently i push everyone i can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You keep singing the same melody, maybe someone will believe you.
I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that!
Why didnt i think of that!
Now i know how to get better reads without putting any effort!
>EveryoneNot frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
Nope, still not scum!beeboy123 wrote:
>EveryoneNot frosting, conf town and your scum buddy
I guess someone here doesnt know what "Everyone" means.
Sorry I forgot you won't bus or push frosting
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressureSakura wrote:
I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that!
Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.beeboy123 wrote:
You where totally ok killing the players that is different from pressureSakura wrote:
I guess sure, staying fully silent and not commenting or interacting with reads is totally going to get me... better reads.
Why didnt i think of that!
You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.
God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.
God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.
You're talking as if you've never played with me.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.Sakura wrote:
Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
beeboy123 wrote:
You haven't mentioned who you think I am scim with despite it being mylo as well.
God I hope town sees through all your bs arguments.
Sakura wrote:
Actually nvm it doesnt make a difference
Unvote
Vote: beeboy
Well there's currently a couple of things in my mind.
I'm already very convinced bee's one of them, i'm not sure on the 2nd, but if bee's town then i can consider this game lost, not sure if there's a point to voting NL if bee's gonna be lynched either way even if it's today or tomorrow.
Regardless now it's very true rEdo was shot N1 and it's about time i go and re-read D1 to figure out why.
No, i pushed you.beeboy123 wrote:
Yes which is why I said you just keep pushing people to see what sticks.Sakura wrote:
Of course im ok killing them, i thought they were scum, my interactions with Hika made me think otherwise of her.
Hell at one point you said you thought Hika was conf scum but you gave up pushing Her to push Jess (aka not town play)
God you are so scum it isn't funny just claim pleaseSakura wrote:
You're talking as if you've never played with me.
Which should show how BS this push you're making is.
Plus i said Hika was 50-60% scum.
Get your facts straight.
Get your facts straight.
Who is my scum buddy mrs beeboy is spouting bs?
you haven't actually expanded on that
you haven't actually expanded on that
Hmmm...
But you mentioning something concerning.
It is true if you're scum i have 0 idea who your partner might be.
Considering you were absent for most of D2, it's kinda hard for you to have interactions of any sort ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ggwp.
If you manage to get this mislynch im going to despise you for using your irl situation to sneak away as scum.
But you mentioning something concerning.
It is true if you're scum i have 0 idea who your partner might be.
Considering you were absent for most of D2, it's kinda hard for you to have interactions of any sort ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ggwp.
If you manage to get this mislynch im going to despise you for using your irl situation to sneak away as scum.
Although if you're town i wont be as mad coz i made a mistake too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I am not using my irl as an excuse for anything except for not being here at the start of day 2.
I do admit I avoided responding to things because I am lazy.
Since I am town I admit to my flaws.
Unlike you who as scum who won't admit to your drastic change in play style which is why I know you are scum.
I do admit I avoided responding to things because I am lazy.
Since I am town I admit to my flaws.
Unlike you who as scum who won't admit to your drastic change in play style which is why I know you are scum.
Because there's no drastic change in playstyle.beeboy123 wrote:
I am not using my irl as an excuse for anything except for not being here at the start of day 2.
I do admit I avoided responding to things because I am lazy.
Since I am town I admit to my flaws.
Unlike you who as scum who won't admit to your drastic change in play style which is why I know you are scum.
Hmm...
even tho beeboy wasnt here to interact with anyone there must have been someone who had a TR on him for most of D2... oh wait that was me.
even tho beeboy wasnt here to interact with anyone there must have been someone who had a TR on him for most of D2... oh wait that was me.
Anyone can read a recent game like newbie 14 and see how your play style changed so idk why you are denying it.
Also you keep arguing I am using irl as an excuse when I only use it to justify my VLA time like you are scum grasping onto straws.
Also you keep arguing I am using irl as an excuse when I only use it to justify my VLA time like you are scum grasping onto straws.
see your scum game is so obvious you just caught yourself ^_^Sakura wrote:
Hmm...
even tho beeboy wasnt here to interact with anyone there must have been someone who had a TR on him for most of D2... oh wait that was me.
I've already linked all my recent meta on D2 (or was it D1?)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yea and all those support my statement and so does newbie 14 which you didn't link.
Outside that 1 push you made in Demi night less even tho you still played more passively then you did here.
Outside that 1 push you made in Demi night less even tho you still played more passively then you did here.
More passively by far.
I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
You dont mean...beeboy123 wrote:
More passively by far.
I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
THIS is your revenge this time, isnt it
OMFG IM GOING TO LYNCH YOU WITH FIRE NOW
Is this your way of trying to make me think your town cause you can't win the 1 on 1?
We both know I don't care about revenge so keep trying to make me think your town
Deep in i was really looking for a glint of light of you being town.
But i can see you're still out to destroy me ever since i caught you with my cop on Gistou.
I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY.
But i can see you're still out to destroy me ever since i caught you with my cop on Gistou.
I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY.
Or you are scum trying to AtE me with this Gistou revenge thing I already told you I didn't actually care about and are trying to AtE to me because you know I am susceptible to it.
Plus
1) I havent failed to deny anything, you have failed to prove anything.
2) You conveniently used your irl situation to go afk for most of D2, then beetlejuice when pushed.
3) I am not playing differently, you're trying to get me ML'd and that's why you are trying to sell that to people here, considering they havent seen me in months while i was on my Luna Fox alt.
4) You DID say as scum you use BS to try to get your mislynches.
1) I havent failed to deny anything, you have failed to prove anything.
2) You conveniently used your irl situation to go afk for most of D2, then beetlejuice when pushed.
3) I am not playing differently, you're trying to get me ML'd and that's why you are trying to sell that to people here, considering they havent seen me in months while i was on my Luna Fox alt.
4) You DID say as scum you use BS to try to get your mislynches.
So you're using outdated meta, that i have already proven wrong, to try to ML me.
Why are you worried about talking about the more recent games like pieguyn and semi-nightless? Because your case collapses that's why.
Why are you worried about talking about the more recent games like pieguyn and semi-nightless? Because your case collapses that's why.
You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?
Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
And I am the scum using bs?
Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
3 year old? woot?beeboy123 wrote:
You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?
Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
You looked up GIFs game where I was scum first.Sakura wrote:
3 year old? woot?beeboy123 wrote:
You looked at a 3 year old game for meta and I can't look at 3 month old game?
And I am the scum using bs?
Damn after this game can you give me scum pointers so I can make pro arguments like that?
Guess you can't remember the meta you looked up because you are scum and don't actually care about the meta you found earlier.
Scum a bit less this is too easy
You said you would Meta me and that and GistouSakura wrote:
The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
But it didnt end up being relevant cause you found nothing
I'm not even talking about meta anymore, you're the one bringing up meta.beeboy123 wrote:
You said you would Meta me and that and GistouSakura wrote:
The only 3 year old game i remember with you is makai mix, and i only linked it once coz while checking the scum PT i found you commenting on a mason fake claim which made me laugh.
You did very aggressively push pie in that game once she ran you upSakura wrote:
Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
And i only brought Gistou coz you said you'd "get me" someday.
Yeah, once she ran me up, and pie was scum mind you, and SK =/= Group scum.beeboy123 wrote:
You did very aggressively push pie in that game once she ran you upSakura wrote:
Meta wise, you usually bring the latest 3 games as either alignment.... although with Luna i only rolled scum twice, and one was as SK.
But hey, i did say that people would use that game now to find a way to ML me, and look at what you're doing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I guess my fears of ppl using that game to ML me were well founded in the end.
You are the one that brought up the game not me.
Also just because you said that doesn't mean this game doesn't resemble your Sk game more than your town game
Also just because you said that doesn't mean this game doesn't resemble your Sk game more than your town game
You brought up the game not me I am just sAying it goes against you not for you like the bs narrative you are writing
Your attempts at AtEing me despite me not actually bringing up that game is horrendous
I brought it up coz SK isnt exactly scum meta.
And THEN you started to make it sound like it was, coz apparently my play here resembled that game.
It is more mafia then town is all I am arguing, not that game makes you scum here.
It's clearly not what I am arguing I just feel like the Gistou ate didn't work for you so now you going onto the meta fear AtE cause we both know those are legit fears you have that I have sympathized with before.
It's clearly not what I am arguing I just feel like the Gistou ate didn't work for you so now you going onto the meta fear AtE cause we both know those are legit fears you have that I have sympathized with before.
So to recap:
I'm talking about your play in THIS game, i'm not bringing meta sources of any sort to prove your guilt, why? Because your play in this game is eviedence of scum play.
You're trying to bring outdated meta to try to prove that "im playing different" when i personally linked my own meta earlier, everyone's capable of reading it and making their own conclusions, you just keep trying to bring it up because scum like to repeat the same tune over and over to subconsciously manipulate people into doing what they want.
I'm talking about your play in THIS game, i'm not bringing meta sources of any sort to prove your guilt, why? Because your play in this game is eviedence of scum play.
You're trying to bring outdated meta to try to prove that "im playing different" when i personally linked my own meta earlier, everyone's capable of reading it and making their own conclusions, you just keep trying to bring it up because scum like to repeat the same tune over and over to subconsciously manipulate people into doing what they want.
Or do you think that I as scum, am stupid enough to link my own meta to people and then go completely against it on a game?
There's 2 more simple answers:
1) Either im town and idc about the meta.
2) Im scum and im emulating my town meta.
So your meta argument is not possible in either scenario and shows that you're just spouting BS.
There's 2 more simple answers:
1) Either im town and idc about the meta.
2) Im scum and im emulating my town meta.
So your meta argument is not possible in either scenario and shows that you're just spouting BS.
You wanted to emulate your town meta and failed miserably it's pretty simple.
Also you asked for your meta and you know that i could provide it so you'd rather do it yourself
Also you asked for your meta and you know that i could provide it so you'd rather do it yourself
@Abraker: Do you still have all the events from D1? i kinda need those coz im having a hard time forming my own flowchart, and i want to figure out why was rEdo shot.
Your recap is a misrep because you really are playing incredibly off meta and your push reasons are the same reasons scum have used on me before.
I am repeating that because it's true and makes you conf scum
I am repeating that because it's true and makes you conf scum
Town help me vote Sakura and don't listen to b1rd pls
Sakura is obv scum pouting pure bs and it is laughably obvious
Anyway I am getting burned out and am going to wait for others to come to the thread.
What im wondering right now is...
bee's a friend of mine, im 100% sure he knows how much i hate being ML'd, and it'd be so easy for him to just get me to vote someone else in my PoE list.
I can't shake the feeling that he probably genuinely thinks im scum... but... idk
Literally the only scum game of him i remember is Gistou, Makai mix happened way too long ago, and i dont even remember it.
Ugh i probably need to rethink everything.
Possibly with abraker's data i can figure it out
Unvote
Sorry rEdo, im not so sure about bee anymore
bee's a friend of mine, im 100% sure he knows how much i hate being ML'd, and it'd be so easy for him to just get me to vote someone else in my PoE list.
I can't shake the feeling that he probably genuinely thinks im scum... but... idk
Literally the only scum game of him i remember is Gistou, Makai mix happened way too long ago, and i dont even remember it.
Ugh i probably need to rethink everything.
Possibly with abraker's data i can figure it out
Unvote
Sorry rEdo, im not so sure about bee anymore
eh. Y'all crazy.
What do YOU think then?
ill let ya know when im not playing league P:
im spam playing league so i might not put some real thought into this until tomorrow evening
If it helps you, the only person i'd hate if im ML right here is bee because.
1) If he's scum he's deliberately doing something he knows i hate.
2) If he's town he has way more recent experience with me than anyone else.
Make the decission an unbiased as possible.
1) If he's scum he's deliberately doing something he knows i hate.
2) If he's town he has way more recent experience with me than anyone else.
Make the decission an unbiased as possible.
Actually nevermind I lied, i'd probably still feel bad.
I feel like this is the hardest i've tried ever to solve the game, and all that work in the end ammounts to nothing because A) People think it's odd for me to do so and B) I always end up second guessing myself anyway.
Regardless i dont think im ever going to put this big ammount of effort into game solving ever again, today shows me that it's not worth it due to the fact that i still havent figured out who's scum in the end.
I feel like this is the hardest i've tried ever to solve the game, and all that work in the end ammounts to nothing because A) People think it's odd for me to do so and B) I always end up second guessing myself anyway.
Regardless i dont think im ever going to put this big ammount of effort into game solving ever again, today shows me that it's not worth it due to the fact that i still havent figured out who's scum in the end.
I'm just goint to say one thing @bee
If you as scum were capable of saying this:
I am never
NEVER EVER
GONNA FORGIVE YOU
FOR DELIGHTING YOURSELF IN THE FUN OF MISLYNCHING ME
This is worse than what Wisdom did.
And
Mark my words, you will NEVER see me again in your entire life.
If you as scum were capable of saying this:
To town me.beeboy123 wrote:
More passively by far.
I know you need to push me to win as scum but you could at least try and make your arguments a bit better. I am almost enjoying watching you struggle and fail to deny what I an saying
I am never
NEVER EVER
GONNA FORGIVE YOU
FOR DELIGHTING YOURSELF IN THE FUN OF MISLYNCHING ME
This is worse than what Wisdom did.
And
Mark my words, you will NEVER see me again in your entire life.
Hey guys I'm VT again what a big surprise 
Vote: uhhh idk Vote: B1rd
Also Zexion is it OK if I VLA until Wednesday 22:00 UTC
Really sorry about that, please replace me out if it's too long
Vote: uhhh idk Vote: B1rd
Also Zexion is it OK if I VLA until Wednesday 22:00 UTC
Really sorry about that, please replace me out if it's too long
Actually I should Vote: NoLynch if I'm gonna be away
I think No Lynch is still the better option here
Sakura and beeboy posts aren't really interesting
I will FOS B1rd and abraker
I think No Lynch is still the better option here
Sakura and beeboy posts aren't really interesting
I will FOS B1rd and abraker
Actually I've been thinking
rEdo night1 target is kinda strange
I feel like the only people who would fear rEdo as scum would be Sakura and Hika
I haven't really gone deep into it though because the target could have been arbitrary or chosen selectively to create some wifom
Also Wow nice selfvote
rEdo night1 target is kinda strange
I feel like the only people who would fear rEdo as scum would be Sakura and Hika
I haven't really gone deep into it though because the target could have been arbitrary or chosen selectively to create some wifom
Also Wow nice selfvote