BounceBabe wrote:

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hyper

this difficulty is a normal insane, look at the SR gap from hard (3) to hyper (4,11). its nowhere near a hyper. rename to elimintate confusion and inappropriate level naming - the reason why I'm using hyper instead of insane is because I'm trying to refer to pop'n music's diff name(the music source). also imo the players should be able to recognize how hard the diff is by SR since SR gap between hard & hyper is easily noticable

00:02:019 (1,2,3,1) - oh boy. 00:02:664 (2,3,1) - use consistent spacing here, one beat time between each object but spacing is different although the song doesnt provide spacing changes. try stacking 2 onto 1 and arrange them like so http://puu.sh/t0P7j/1e83faa920.jpg or any other shape that has consistent spacing - fixed

00:11:373 (2,3) - reverse. 00:11:051 (1,2,3,4) - has gradual pitch change, 00:11:535 (3,4) - has a significant difference so a jump between those would be reasonable. http://puu.sh/t0Ph2/1363004e43.jpg same here 00:11:696 (4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/t0PhZ/ec26cb9e18.jpg with an appropriate jump between 00:12:180 (6,1) - . this loop will make flow a lot better too http://puu.sh/t0PjT/cb46dd1eb2.jpg - I kinda prefer current "gradually increasing clockwise" flow more, so not changing.

00:13:309 (6,1) - 00:13:954 (5,1,2) - a hyper should not have such large stream jumps. normal ds or smaller spacing would be more appropriate. additionally, the rest of the gameplay is rather easy with consistent spacing and rather few jumps compared to the stream and stream jumps, totally doesnt fit with the rest and causes a big difficulty spike. - fixed

00:15:889 (4,1) - spacing is wrong. 00:15:889 (4,1) - has same spacing as 00:15:567 (3,4) - easily fixable by stacking the slider with 00:15:889 (4) - same 00:18:470 (4,1) - and for all kinds of placement like this - think it should be fine cuz of different combo color. Also, I kinda prefer the opposite going flow now rather than stacking it.

00:52:018 (2,1) - not readable due to the same spacing before that 00:51:696 (1,2) - - fixed

01:26:535 (1) - stack with 01:26:320 (5) - or place much farther apart, spacing is wrong. 01:25:674 (2,3) - have larger jumps and are 4/6 elements 01:26:105 (4,5) -is a 2/6 jumps. 01:26:320 (5,1) - is another 4/6 element but has this clustered spacing so it doesnt make sense - kinda had reason of it, but fixed anyway since 01:26:535 (1) - has strong sound.

01:16:857 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) - for a hyper, again, its too much and causes a huge difficulty spike that should be avoided. jumps are not appropriate for this level nor does it fit with the rather easy and consistent mapping. - nerfed spacing a bit but not much, cuz it's hold-and-release stuff.

apart from the overdone streams, nice diff


ex

00:03:309 (1,2,1,2) - should have consistent spacing since the way they are played are the same - fixed

00:19:277 (2) - reverse slider movement would create better flow - fixed
same 00:29:438 (2,1) - fixed 00:29:760 (1) -

00:51:051 (1,2) - 00:51:454 (3,1) - 1/2 and 1/4 but visual spacing is the same. fix this to avoid confusion. - not agreeing with this cuz when playing normal sliders(not kick slider/reverse slider), most players' primary consideration is when to click the sliderhead rather than when to release. so when it comes to spacing at insane+ diff, the main object we consider should be sliderhead. therefore I think this 00:51:373 (2,3,1) - should be considered somewhere around 3/4~1/1 gap.(hope you somehow understand my poor english explanation)
same with the rest 00:51:696 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - - fixed

01:00:406 (3,1,2) - same visual spacing for 1/2 and 1/4? highly confusing. use closer spacing for 1/4 or make 1/2 larger even though its a jump. - fixed

YoNiko wrote:

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[Hyper]

00:50:244 (3) - rotate 180 - nop cuz no big reason to change, and it's symmetrical with 00:51:051 (1) -

00:51:454 (3) - this slider looks not good - fixed

01:41:696 (2,3,4,5) - change to former space plz, cuz it seems there's no reason to change to small space - there is some reason, but changed a bit

01:42:664 (1,2,3,4) - sliders here should be more symmetrical - ok, not changing now but i'll try to use symmetrical pattern if i change this someday.

[Extra]

00:32:341 (1,2) - symmetrical with 00:31:696 (1,2) - - not really necessary to be perfetly symmetrical.
cuz 00:29:115 (1,2,1,2) -

01:19:277 (4) - why curve slider? - fixed


that's all
gl for your map > <

Yogurtt wrote:

m4m from my q! (sorry for late mod!!) - it's ok

EX
00:04:277 (2) - NC - don't think it's necessary
00:04:599 (1) - move this down a bit so its as far away from the reverse as the others are - fixed
00:35:244 (2) - NC - ^^
00:43:631 (3,4) - line up the slider borders more cleanly - fixed i think
00:46:212 (2,3) - keep slider shapes consistent - changed 00:46:857 (4) - instead
01:00:890 (2,3,1,2,3,4) - the stream is kinda ugly and id recommend using a second kick slider instead of starting the stream there - umm.. think it's fine how it is
01:08:309 (2,3,4) - stack the triple imo - okay
01:30:244 (2,3) - stack - umm.... no

overall just needs some cleaning up, nice song, good luck on the map! sorry i could only do one diff

Mir wrote:

Hi!~ M4M for this map.

[ General]

1. EX and Beom's Extreme are literally the same SR and are redundant. Nerf one or buff the other for the sake of spread?

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[ Easy]

1. 00:48:793 (1,2) - If this is supposed to be blanketing, the red point in (1) ruins it. :/ - it's intended, so yeah

Uh.. yeah. That's it, I like this diff a lot. Lots of blankets though. - c:

[ Normal]

1. 00:25:244 (1,2) - Skipping a note at 00:26:051 - it seems. It's mapped at 00:20:083 (1,2,3) - and a part before it. And after this you just ignore that double like it never existed. - it's cuz the vocal's rhythm changed a lot
2. 01:20:083 (2,3,4,5) - Maybe make this a better curve? http://i.imgur.com/TyF5RrK.jpg - sure
3. 01:25:889 (1) - I think this should be circle + slider because the 1/3 triple could use a slider to represent it rather than just bouncing off of a reverse imo. - yeah I agree with that, but I want 01:26:535 (2) - this to be clickable, so keeping it.
4. 01:45:244 (1,3) - Make these the same slider? - sure

These lower difficulties are solid.

[ Hard]

1. 00:21:373 (1,2,3) - This rhythm is inconsistent with 00:18:793 (1,2,3) - since they're the same sounds. I recommend making them the same. - I wanted the flow stop at 00:19:760 (3) - while keep going at 00:22:341 (3) -. Also their actual rhythm is not that different,so it should be fine.
2. 00:38:148 (1,2,3,4) - This rhythm still works well, why is 00:36:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - mapped differently? It's not like you're mapping the vocals, they're 1/1 and this is 1/2 anyways. I think they should be the same if not similar. - at 00:36:857 (1,2,3,4,5) - , music can be seperated 00:36:857 - ~ 00:37:180 - / 00:37:180 - ~ 00:37:825 - / 00:37:825 - ~ 00:38:148 - (refering to the vocal), at 00:38:148 (1,2,3,4) - , it can be seperated 00:38:148 - ~ 00:38:793 - / 00:38:793 - ~ 00:39:438 - . so they're mapped differently.
3. 00:41:857 (5,1) - This kinda feels weird. I would recommend a 1/1 from 00:41:857 - 00:42:180 - and add a circle at 00:42:341. It follows the drums a bit better than what you have. - fixed
4. 01:16:535 (5) - This slider should probably be two active notes. Both of these sounds seem clickable. - umm no cuz i think vocal is more important here.
5. 01:45:244 (1) - What is this reverse slider on? It doesn't fall on any beat that I can hear. It seems unneeded. Make it 1/1 or something if you want to capture the bass. - fixed

[ Hyper]

1. 00:08:954 (3) - Strongest sound here on the slider end. Are you sure? Try ctrl+g this rhythm 00:08:954 (3,4). - fixed
2. 00:15:889 (4,1) - This is not immediately obvious that it's - think it's fine
3. 00:18:793 (1,2,3,1) - Kinda messy placement imo. Could you clean this up somehow? - changed a bit
4. 01:02:664 (1,5) - Center the 5 with 1's head? http://i.imgur.com/w5UQVLR.png - sure
5. 01:08:470 (4,1) - Stack ends lol. - fixed
6. 01:22:018 (1,2,3) - Needs a better transition imo. Stacking 01:21:857 (2,1) - would be better but still wonky. Idk how you want to do this, but this isn't obviously a snapping change from a playing standpoint imo. - yeah, will fix this when i get an idea.
7. 01:41:696 (2,3,4) - Not really a fan of this implied visual flow. Try this or something similar http://i.imgur.com/vgfuj8u.jpg it's quite a bit change but you get the idea, something that looks a bit more logical. x.x - sure
8. 01:42:341 (5,1) - This is a pretty big 1/4 jump... I recommend nerfing it slightly: http://i.imgur.com/rxpExlr.png - changed the rhythm instead

[ EXtreme(?)]

1. 00:23:954 (1,2) - I think ctrl+g of this rhythm might work better. - umm idk actually, ctrl+g will work better for drum, but i wanted these 3 redticks to be clickable. 00:24:115 - 00:24:438 - 00:24:760 -
2. 00:44:922 (3,5,7) - Center 5 a bit more? This could improve the jump flow here. - sure
3. 00:45:567 (6,7,1) - This is a really wide angle though, do you want to keep this? You don't use wide angles for emphasis anywhere else so it breaks consistency. - think it's fine, and also wide angle to next combo was used right before this 00:43:954 (4,5,1) -
4. 00:56:212 (1,2) - Parallel possibly? - it's intended so keeping it
5. 01:11:051 (5,6,7) - This looks kinda ew. Try this: http://i.imgur.com/j3z7CcC.png? - sure
6. 01:34:922 (1) - Could definitely be two circles for more emphasis on the change in music. - umm.. no cuz I don't want too many singletaps at this kinda kiai-intro part.
7. 01:37:260 (6,7) - Straighten this? It looks kinda ew right now. - sure

That's everything worth mentioning. Top diffs could use more modding than just me, but the bottom diffs were really solid, good job!

Good luck.~

6th wrote:

Hey

[Easy]
00:04:599 (1,2,3) - Beginning with such a difficult flow can be annnoying for beginners, rotate (3) a bit. - think it shold be fine since 00:05:567 (2) - is almost at the corner of the playfield, some flow change is kinda predictable.
00:53:631 - 01:22:018 - They are the same but you map them differently. I can agree on the fact that the 2nd part is more intense at the end but try to keep some consistency in beginner diffs. 1/6 on slider ends may be pretty awkward to play for them, btw. - was planning to change this, fixed
01:47:825 (1) - That spinner is a bit short. Consider placing it somewhere else, like 01:24:169 - . - I believe that this length is acceptable, it's containing whole 4(5) beats.
It feels like a Normal rather than a Easy, but well...

[Normal]
00:26:212 (2,3,4,5,6) - 00:28:793 (2,3,4,5,6) - 5 circles in a row feel too sudden and dense for nothing according to the global difficulty. Consider adding some sliders on downbeats. - actually i think they're easier than sliders. They're only 1/1s with straight foward rhythm, ds is 0.9. I'll see more opinions about this.
00:34:277 - Here the song is more intense so circles would have fitted more for instance.
00:59:277 (2) - Curve it a bit ? Or line it up with (3). - fixed
01:22:018 (1,2,3) - This would work much better as a triangle, like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7155431. You got the idea. - sure

[Hard]
00:20:889 - This should be mapped according to 00:15:567 (2,3) - 00:18:148 (2,3) - - fixed
00:43:309 (1) - Its end and its beginning are equally intense and sound kinda independant from each other. Use 2 circles instead ? - umm, think current one works fine also.
00:54:707 (3,2) - Stack them ? - nop
01:11:696 (1) - A flow change would fit the song more and be more interesting to play. - didn't change the direction but moved slightly.

[Hyper]
00:20:083 (1) - Move its point to 305;290 and stack it again, it should look a bit better. - fixed
00:23:309 (3,5) - They are almost inaudible, increase their volume a bit. - okay, gonna increase the volume of hitnormal.wav file
00:59:277 (2,3) - Why is (3) so far from (2) ? - they aren't too far imo.
00:53:631 - 01:22:018 - Inconsistency : Stack perfectly the circles in 1st section or don't stack perfectly those in the 2nd one. - I mapped differently cuz at 1st section it is enough with 4 triangles and also to indicate 1/3s visually, but at 2nd section is long chain of them and if I half stack them it will look pretty messy
01:23:094 (3,1) - They are less spaced than the rest when 01:22:449 (3,1) - 01:23:954 (4,1) - 01:24:599 (3,1) - 01:25:244 (3,1) - are more spaced. Fix it. - fixed
01:26:105 (4,5) - I don't really get the point of that. You use a kickslider but the speed is decreasing, at least space them more than the rest. Although having a triplet would make much more sens imo since it would indicate the intensification in the song. - changed a bit

[EX]
00:03:309 (1,2,1,2) - Line them up ? - I see no reason to
00:30:083 (4) - It belongs to the same combo as the 3 previous sliders so I recommand CTRL+G - fixed
00:38:793 (1) - This is kinda annoying to catch because the movement here 00:38:148 (1,2,3) - is not curved a lot. Move (3) a bit to the left. - okay
00:42:825 (4,5,6,1,2) - Avoid doing that ): it looks like they belong to the same combo/they are the same musically but it's totally wrong - I think it's fine cuz of nc at 00:43:309 (1) - , 00:42:825 (1) - nc'd this for more readability.
00:44:438 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - A lot of overlaps that don't really fit the rest of the map and that you could fix easily. - rearranged slightly.
00:47:825 (5,6,7) - Nothing really justifies such antiflow in the song. It's a bit hard to play for nothing. - it's shouldn't be that much problem since they're placed to snap easily, but moved a bit.
01:21:373 (1,2,1,2) - Spacing should increase, not decrease. - the pitch is decreasing tho
00:56:696 (2) - Make it parellel to (1), fits better with things like 00:57:502 (1,2) - 00:58:793 (1,2) - - it is intended but everyone is complaining of this, changed 00:56:212 (1) - a bit.
01:06:535 (1,2,3,1) - That flow is really awkward to play. Nerf it a bit to make it more intuitive and enjoyable. - ctrl g'd 01:07:018 (2) -

Good luck !

CraEZy wrote:

m4m from your queue!

[ easy ]

overall really good!

1. 00:32:986 (1,2,3) - i would move this down on the y-axis so the transition from 00:32:664 (3) - feels smoother - it's intended to have uncomfortable flow here cuz it's on a strong sound.
2. 01:34:922 (1,2) - maybe have these curve a bit more so it looks better? like this - hmm okay
   
   SPOILER

   
3. 01:40:083 (1) - same concept as ^ - sure

[ normal ]

i feel like the sv is high for a normal, maybe consider ar 6 or 5.5 instead b/c of high sv - umm no, i think 5 is totally fine.

1. 00:42:341 (5) - maybe have this point to 00:42:986 (6) - - nope, cuz flow change to 00:42:986 (6) - is intended
2. 01:42:986 (2) - keep this horizontal instead of at an angle, like 01:41:857 (3) - - okay

[ hard ]

maybe have stack leniency at 4? - ummm I'll think more about this

1. 00:25:244 (1) - remove nc - It's a new phase tho
2. 00:32:341 (3) - ctrl + g, looks better, and plays better imo
3. 00:32:663 (4) - ^ - okay
4. 00:51:051 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern is hard to read for a person of this skill level. - think it's fine

[ hyper ]

1. 00:03:309 (1,2,1,2) - maybe make this into a really dense stream - not necessary imo
2. 00:25:244 (1) - looks like the slider to 00:25:567 (2) - - think it's fine
3. 01:04:922 (3,1) - same concept as ^ - ^

[ ex ]

1. 00:03:309 (1,2,1) - make into stream? - umm nope
2. 01:16:857 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - majority of this are kick sliders, maybe you should make them jumps, they look too much like streams imo - the first 4 are dense to indicate that there are kicksliders coming, rest seems fine to me.
3. 01:27:180 (1) - from here to the kiai is a calm part, maybe increase spacing density to reflect song better - think it works well as it is

Super cool mapset! i hope to pp farm this someday gl hf getting this ranked!