Depths wrote:

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• [Yuri Symphony]

1. Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
   - 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason.
   - 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section.
   - 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song.
   
   
2. 00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth.
3. 00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures.
4. 00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too.
5. 00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better.
6. 01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact.
7. 01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place .
8. 00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too.

LMT wrote:

• [Yuri Symphony]

1. Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
   - 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. extended slider are very much justified for sounds like this if there is nothing on the red tick. You would not want to make 00:34:812 - not clickable so an extended slider fits very well
   
2. 00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. this one should be here since there is actually a sound to emphasize on 00:14:087 - . this is perfectly fine to read as well since the spacing between 4 and 5 already suggest that this has to be a 3/4 slider
3. 00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it emphasizes the clearly stronger drum hits only present on these 2 ticks. he probably didnt want to make a stream out of the toms after this because they are very quite and a 1/2 rhythm is more suggested here
4. 00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. its a much smoother transition from the piano stream to the drum stream than doing a regular streamjump
5. 01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . they are not emphasizing the guitar but rather serve as a transition from the 1 2 3 rhythm to the regular 1/2 rhythm

Vell wrote:

• [Yuri Symphony]

1. Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
   - 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. extended slider are very much justified for sounds like this if there is nothing on the red tick. You would not want to make 00:34:812 - not clickable so an extended slider fits very well Extended sliders are used because you want to emphasise a prolonged sound (in this map's case it's the prolonged vocal/ solo sax sounds), not because there's a red tick or not. I suggested a 1/1 circle (not a slider!!) because the next object is still clickable while not getting into overmapping territory.
   
2. 00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. this one should be here since there is actually a sound to emphasize on 00:14:087 - . this is perfectly fine to read as well since the spacing between 4 and 5 already suggest that this has to be a 3/4 slider I'm suggesting a 1/1 slider and I don't think I hear a sound on the blue tick, except for maybe that's where the sax stops which is only audible when you slow it down and generally not something a player would hear during gameplay. 4 and 5 are at least 1 beat away from 1 and 2 and in this timescale so I don't see how that's a thing to justify readability.
3. 00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it emphasizes the clearly stronger drum hits only present on these 2 ticks. he probably didnt want to make a stream out of the toms after this because they are very quite and a 1/2 rhythm is more suggested here toms are played not for the purpose of making itself quiet. Also using a 1/4 slider rhythm here would differentiate the 1 2 rhythm earlier better as well. I don't think you can argue you he's following the vocals either as "hibike" lies on 2 3 4.
4. 00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. its a much smoother transition from the piano stream to the drum stream than doing a regular streamjump which was why I suggested mapping a full stream instead of mapping (2) as it would (potentially) break the concept.
5. 01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . they are not emphasizing the guitar but rather serve as a transition from the 1 2 3 rhythm to the regular 1/2 rhythm you can map just 1/2 circles normally instead of 1/4 and they would also be a smooth transition to the 1/2 rhythm. Also, transition is meant to be mapped to something that makes sense too as the song does introduces elements that take you from the previous rhythm to the normal 1/2 rhythm.

LMT wrote:

There are a few things I would like to point out on the top diff before this being moved the ranked section.

• [Yuri Symphony]

1. Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
   - 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason. these are all extended to follow vocal a bit better, I like using them to emphasize other stuff afterwards too, which is the case with the first 2 you've mentioned, don't really see what's wrong about this
   - 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. idk what to even call what it's following but it is following something :d I think a slider fits a lot better than a 1/1 circle, it's not the only one either, I did it here too 00:33:038 (1) -
   - 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song. yeah I guess these 2 parts are similar but do I really have to keep things consistent idk, I feel like it's fine lol
   
   
2. 00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. 1x SV into 0.75x SV isn't a big change, the spacing makes sense to emphasize cymbal crash etc, this is easily readable.. I haven't seen anyone play this wrong, perhaps a #20k would have trouble with this but it is a 6 star after all?
3. 00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures. but how is this overmapping when there's sounds on there..?
4. 00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it's because of the sound on 00:45:377 - , people complained about ignoring that thus I did a 1/4 slider instead since I really don't want to put a triple, plays awkward to me in a section with so much movement
5. 00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. 00:48:038 (2) - for some spacing into the piano, and like Vell said 00:48:522 (7) - this plays a lot easier into drums than having a streamjump
6. 01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact. because emphasizing it the same way there would end up ignoring the downbeat which has even more impact?
7. 01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . yeah they're on the guitar but I feel like it's a lot more prominent there, I don't really see how it's overmapping either when you know it's following the guitar zz
8. 00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too. if you're talking about the overlap, these things are intentional sorry!

Please do not take this as an offence, if I'd looked at the top diff before being qualified I would've given my concerns, unfortunately I only found it out after being qualified.

Syph wrote:

• [Yuri Symphony]

1. Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
   - 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason. these are all extended to follow vocal a bit better, I like using them to emphasize other stuff afterwards too, which is the case with the first 2 you've mentioned, don't really see what's wrong about this The thing about "following the vocal a bit better" is you can literally add any extended slider if you use the extended slider argument, like 00:15:135 (1,4) - 00:18:361 (4,5) - 00:19:651 (3,4) - ,... anywhere else. It is a technique that you neglect the red tick and overmap sliderend to emphasise something more prominent and should be used more sparingly and carefully than "vocals, solo sax and other things"
   - 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. idk what to even call what it's following but it is following something :d I think a slider fits a lot better than a 1/1 circle, it's not the only one either, I did it here too 00:33:038 (1) - my reasoning here would be as above, "it's following something" would not be an argument to use such technique. The slider you pointed out can be argued to follow the prolonged vocals there so I didn't point it out.
   - 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song. yeah I guess these 2 parts are similar but do I really have to keep things consistent idk, I feel like it's fine lol So what's the reasoning to use extended slider there or it is something "I feel like it fit", if it is so then my argument for the first point still stands. Quite a memorable moment in the song, I would not recommend messing up with concepts in places like this.
   
   
2. 00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. 1x SV into 0.75x SV isn't a big change, the spacing makes sense to emphasize cymbal crash etc, this is easily readable.. I haven't seen anyone play this wrong, perhaps a #20k would have trouble with this but it is a 6 star after all? it's not really about whether this is playable or not (I had no trouble playing this, true), it's whether it makes sense to use an extended slider there. The spacing I mentioned has nothing to do with the cymbal crash by the way, sorry for confusing you a little bit. This isn't such a big issue if it weren't for the extended slider so I wouldn't nitpick this, as long as you have a correct reason to use extended slider here.
3. 00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures. but how is this overmapping when there's sounds on there..? I can't hear a sound on the blue tick (00:25:377 (6) - this note)
4. 00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it's because of the sound on 00:45:377 - , people complained about ignoring that thus I did a 1/4 slider instead since I really don't want to put a triple, plays awkward to me in a section with so much movement I did not suggest you changing to a triple but rather a different rhythm to separate 2 different patterns the song has: 00:43:845 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - emphasis based on sax "back-and-forth" pitch/snare+kick drums | 00:45:296 (3,1,2,3,4) - emphasis based on the toms and the sax pitch is having a different pattern. If you try sth like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7147176, it doesn't play that much different but these two things are well separated and give each of them a better emphasis.
5. 00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. 00:48:038 (2) - for some spacing into the piano, and like Vell said 00:48:522 (7) - this plays a lot easier into drums than having a streamjump fair enough
6. 01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact. because emphasizing it the same way there would end up ignoring the downbeat which has even more impact? are you sure the downbeat has that big an impact here? Try putting a 1/1 here instead (or 3/4 slider + circle here since that's what you do a lot). The reason why is so much stronger than the downbeat is because the building up from these two notes 01:00:135 (1,5) - emphasised by 1/2 sliders which leads to this note, however you've overshadowed this climax by putting it as a circle and put the slider on the downbeat instead.
7. 01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . yeah they're on the guitar but I feel like it's a lot more prominent there, I don't really see how it's overmapping either when you know it's following the guitar zz Sliderends are overmapped, i'm not talking about the sliderheads which is why I suggested 1/2 circles instead. About it being more prominent or not, it's just this is where the guitar comes in (which is non-existent before) gives you a feeling that it's more prominent, in fact it really isn't.
8. 00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too. if you're talking about the overlap, these things are intentional sorry! There are things that are intentional but doesn't make sense http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7147225 I fail to see any reasoning or structure behind this however I won't nitpick you on this since it's not very important.

Lazer wrote:

dissapointed in last diff name it isnt forbidden symphony