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Vivyanne

Joined December 2013

Vivyanne 2017-01-17T15:28:03+00:00

talked about normal in irc, might add more later

2017-01-17 15:39 Syph: hightecccccuucucu
2017-01-17 15:39 HighTec: aasasasasasas
2017-01-17 15:39 HighTec: hi!
2017-01-17 15:40 HighTec: wahts up
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: helo!!
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: ur gna hate me for this but
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: i need a mod!
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: but thed goood news is
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: its only one diff
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: and tv size
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: !!
2017-01-17 15:40 HighTec: wowo
2017-01-17 15:40 HighTec: ok i guesS
2017-01-17 15:40 Syph: yay nice
2017-01-17 15:41 Syph: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1102552 TRUE - Soundscape]
2017-01-17 15:41 Syph: normal
2017-01-17 15:44 HighTec: 00:18:038 (4,5,6) - ben onzeker over dit ritme
2017-01-17 15:45 HighTec: ik snap dat het de drums volgt maar het klinkt beetje apart als je voor de rest van de section basically 1/1 gaps hebt
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: eh
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: bn die m wil pushen
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: zegt dat flow awkward is
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: en reading
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: nothing about rhythm
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: dus dat is goed denk ik? idk
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: ;-;
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: muziek veranderd hier wel wat tho
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: dus
2017-01-17 15:45 Syph: it makes sense sort of
2017-01-17 15:46 HighTec: ya it makes sense
2017-01-17 15:46 HighTec: but changing flow is kinda
2017-01-17 15:46 HighTec: risky op normal diffs
2017-01-17 15:46 HighTec: al klopt de emphasis
2017-01-17 15:47 HighTec: 00:33:038 (3,4,5) - dit is ook questionable flow tbh
2017-01-17 15:47 HighTec: aangezien (5) de rotatie van de triangle niet volgt
2017-01-17 15:47 Syph: ><
2017-01-17 15:48 HighTec: 00:49:006 (1,2,1) - can imagine this being hard to read for plebs
2017-01-17 15:48 HighTec: door de stack van 00:49:006 (1,1) -
2017-01-17 15:48 Syph: ja die 49 was ik niet zeker van
2017-01-17 15:48 Syph: maar ik weet niet wat ik anders kan doen
2017-01-17 15:48 Syph: LOL
2017-01-17 15:49 Syph: and it looks so nic too.....
2017-01-17 15:49 HighTec: yea but
2017-01-17 15:49 HighTec: in makkelijke diffs
2017-01-17 15:50 HighTec: zijn overlaps een no go
2017-01-17 15:50 HighTec: ;w;
2017-01-17 15:50 Syph: e
2017-01-17 15:50 Syph: ik vroeg t aan yuii tho
2017-01-17 15:50 Syph: dit is niet overlap
2017-01-17 15:50 Syph: meer stack
2017-01-17 15:50 Syph: hij zei dat t ok was
2017-01-17 15:50 HighTec: 00:57:877 (4,5) - dit is fine tbh
2017-01-17 15:50 HighTec: 00:49:006 (1,1) - dis isnt ;w;
2017-01-17 15:51 HighTec: denk dat het beste is om te doen
2017-01-17 15:51 HighTec: om die blanket helaas op te geven
2017-01-17 15:51 Syph: aasdadsfd
2017-01-17 15:51 HighTec: https://gabepower.s-ul.eu/Z5nJAMFd om zoiets te doen
2017-01-17 15:51 HighTec: ik weet het tis zonder maar ;w;
2017-01-17 15:51 HighTec: zonde*
2017-01-17 15:52 Syph: sry im brb ;;
2017-01-17 15:52 HighTec: owo

Depths

681 posts

Joined January 2014

Depths 2017-01-18T06:20:16+00:00

Karen wrote:
mm

Depths' Symphonic Extreme
00:10:941 (1,2,3,4) - 2 1/4 sliders fit more i think? it's clearly overmapped and starting from a white line which is weird to play :c I don't really feel this is weird to me, I think 2 1/4 slider would be unfitting. though I'll consider the change if I can think of something.
00:58:683 (1) - why not 3/4 slider 3/4 felt too long for me here
gl!

thanks for the mod renren, I'll post my updated diff later, if I change to 1/4 sliders at the start

Edit: http://puu.sh/tqguN/dcb69c8848.rar talked with Karen about the start,we both think its better with 2 1/4

Last edited by Depths 2017-01-18T06:29:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Syph

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-18T06:22:39+00:00

@len i don't see how the 2nd and 3rd are hard to play but i changed the 1st one, also changed some other patterns and stuff like rhythm at some places, will try to get more mods but most people i asked said its mostly fine so its kinda hard....

Karen wrote:
mm

Lesbian Symphony
00:01:264 (3) - finish fit more here instead of 00:00:942 (1) - actually i think the opposite.. sounds a lot better on 1 to me ;;
00:10:941 (5,6,7,1) - kinda weird to play, and visually looks bad because it's too closed to 00:10:458 (3) - guess ill put it back to where it used to be, pls dont hate me len .....
00:18:361 (4,1) - improve blanket http://puu.sh/tpoRG/eac989359b.jpg ok
00:48:683 (1) - why isn't it blanket'd with that stream :ccc i thought it was, maybe its better now ;-;
00:58:683 (1) - i know you increased slider speed here but the new combo still doesn't make sense as the speed change isn't obvious to see in gameplay removed
some 1/4 spacings are really confusing, like 01:20:458 (2,3,4) - 00:10:941 (5,6,1,2) - 00:22:877 (1,2,1) - .etc i don't rly see how theyre confusing tho.. i havent seen anyone misread stuff like this either so ya
gl!

thanks karen~ <3

also changed diffname until i think of new one.. lol

Settia

100 posts

Joined March 2013

Settia 2017-01-18T13:13:39+00:00

Len wrote:
z

settia:

00:22:877 (7) - nc
00:23:361 (2) - ^

あなたの譜面は本当に素晴らしい.. arigato!!

fixed all!

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Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

1,343 posts

Joined June 2013

Garden 2017-01-21T11:20:53+00:00

no kd

General:
idk if u r gonna delete Spork Lover from tag, and wheres skystar

Easy:
00:07:877 - 00:08:200 - add some hitsounds as i mentioned in irc

Normal:
00:17:071 (2,3) - my friends playing like, when seeing multiple approaching circles they always click the closest one first. So i still suggest u make things much clearer for 00:13:845 - to 00:19:006 - section and 00:36:425 (4,5,1,2) - 00:42:232 (1,2) - etc.
00:22:554 (3,4) - overlap equally on 4 looks better
00:31:103 (5) - maybe delete the note, the rhythm here is a bit dense
00:40:941 (3) - move to 150,380 looks neater
use same kiai setting as ur other two diffs

Waji:
hp5 for spread
00:19:006 (1,2) - 00:19:651 (2,3) - uh the blanket looks bit different visually, maybe keep them consistent
00:25:458 (1) - no finish sound to emphasize here what about keeping 1.2x? the uneven spacing 00:25:458 (1,2,3) - triggers me

Asaiga:
00:38:845 - add finish too?
01:27:070 (8) - maybe turn into a 1/4 kickslider, pretty fits music and plays nice
01:26:828 (5) - 01:26:989 (7) - 01:27:070 (8) - idk how they are 1ms unsnapped
uh i think it's better u added drum samples on some streams, would provide better feedbacks.

Hikaru:
why only some of the extended slider tails are muted, rest is fine to me

Slayed:
00:27:716 (5) - 1/1 slider plays more natural l
00:48:361 (1) - whistles on head and tail sound weird
00:48:038 (1) - 01:00:135 (1) - unsnapped slider ends

gather some opinions on normal then call me

Depths

681 posts

Joined January 2014

Depths 2017-01-21T11:29:18+00:00

http://puu.sh/tue9N/64c7cfe658.rar
applied everything from Garden, since we talked in game about a few things. generally from his previous post.

wajinshu

1,579 posts

Joined April 2015

wajinshu 2017-01-21T16:58:28+00:00

Fixed all.

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Syph

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-21T17:26:15+00:00

Garden wrote:
no kd

General:
idk if u r gonna delete Spork Lover from tag, and wheres skystar skystar tag was a joke, forgot to remove it~ can i keep in spork lover if i add his diff to desc? or should it be removed

Easy:
00:07:877 - 00:08:200 - add some hitsounds as i mentioned in irc whoops forgot

Normal:
00:17:071 (2,3) - my friends playing like, when seeing multiple approaching circles they always click the closest one first. So i still suggest u make things much clearer for 00:13:845 - to 00:19:006 - section and 00:36:425 (4,5,1,2) - 00:42:232 (1,2) - etc.
00:22:554 (3,4) - overlap equally on 4 looks better
00:31:103 (5) - maybe delete the note, the rhythm here is a bit dense
00:40:941 (3) - move to 150,380 looks neater
use same kiai setting as ur other two diffs

fixed all except for 00:42:232 (1,2) - since I think it should be fine

gather some opinions on normal then call me will do owo

thanks garden~

Last edited by Syph 2017-01-22T13:35:22+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Asaiga

848 posts

Joined July 2013

Asaiga 2017-01-21T18:06:18+00:00

Garden wrote:
no kd

Asaiga:
00:38:845 - add finish too? added
01:27:070 (8) - maybe turn into a 1/4 kickslider, pretty fits music and plays nice right, done
01:26:828 (5) - 01:26:989 (7) - 01:27:070 (8) - idk how they are 1ms unsnapped fixed
uh i think it's better u added drum samples on some streams, would provide better feedbacks. I did add/change hs at all streams

Thanks for mod, Garden!

updated! It's been a month so I almost forgot this xd. sorry sorry I will keep up to date now

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Kencho

952 posts

Joined August 2013

Kencho 2017-01-21T18:45:01+00:00

Quick look for Normal diff

00:03:522 (1,4) - Avoid this type of stacking
00:18:361 (5,1) - ^
00:18:361 (5) - DS too big, keep 1.40x
01:16:425 (3,1) - Avoid stack if there are empty 2 beats

Syph

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-22T12:42:51+00:00

fixed all, thank you kencho ><
edit: also talked to pentori, sonnyc and oko on irc about normal diff, should be a lot better nowww

Okoratu

Nomination Assessment Team / Elite Nominator

4,913 posts

Joined May 2012

Okoratu 2017-01-22T15:01:08+00:00

we simplified a bunch of rhythms in normal
changed the 1/1 stack and the last pattern to be less forced i think

an actual chatlog

Okorin - Today at 3:24 PM
main thing that bothers me though is that majority of the diff is sliders lol
Syph - Today at 3:24 PM
isnt that what a normal is
i had more circles
but then it was too hard
so i simplified it
Okorin - Today at 3:24 PM
i feel like a lot of ppl don't think about what people actually find harder when they start playing the game lol
Syph - Today at 3:26 PM
i guess so
idk
blame the bns i asked for help ;;;
do you think its fine tho
Okorin - Today at 3:27 PM
if you just started the game sliders require way more attention than circles because you have to do more in order to read and play them because you need to press sth and follow a thing
so filling a low diff full with sliders will make sr think it's easier while it'll be actually harder for the target audience lol
Syph - Today at 3:27 PM
yea i was thinking smth similar
so i had more circles
but that was bad
so ye
here we are
Okorin - Today at 3:28 PM
wats bad about having spots like http://i.imgur.com/llyDRd4.png

be more simple
Syph - Today at 3:29 PM
what do u mean
Okorin - Today at 3:29 PM
just using circles for the first 2 sliders and the pattern is much easier to comprehend?
http://i.imgur.com/oh0AXsv.png varying a few of these 1/2 sliders for circles would also make diff more interesting on top of that

Syph - Today at 3:30 PM
oo this
i actually had it smth like
https://sy.phic.al/i/bhkkiqa.png

this
Okorin - Today at 3:31 PM
i was just talkingabout using 2 circles for one of these things
or like substituting the 2 sliders pattern for circles in more points
http://i.imgur.com/wxpjmyo.png is the most forced pattern in the entire diff imo

Syph - Today at 3:32 PM
o i changed this earlier actually lol
well
to that
https://sy.phic.al/i/hufmydy.png

it was this first
i feel like thats even harder
flow wise
dunno really
Okorin - Today at 3:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8tNROGL.png

?
Syph - Today at 3:34 PM
o
i like that actually
Okorin - Today at 3:34 PM
like anything that doesn't look like you stuffed everything into one place forcibly
lol
Syph - Today at 3:35 PM
;;;;
im stealing that if u dont mind
Okorin - Today at 3:35 PM
00:59:006 (3,1) - gl to anyone reading this correctly d
Syph - Today at 3:35 PM
everyone pointed out all the other stacks i did like that
Okorin - Today at 3:35 PM
you've been teaching them that stacks mean 1/2 clicking
Syph - Today at 3:35 PM
except for this one
so wasnt sure about this one so i kept it
Okorin - Today at 3:35 PM
and then do that
Syph - Today at 3:36 PM
https://sy.phic.al/i/zlcguun.png

is this better then lol
Okorin - Today at 3:37 PM
easier to comprehend so yes
Syph - Today at 3:38 PM
yay
Okorin - Today at 3:39 PM
00:55:458 (2,3,4) - 01:17:071 (1,2,3,4) - 00:11:264 (1,2) - 00:22:232 (2) - 00:28:683 (4,5) - 00:31:264 (5,6) - would see which of these could be meaningful while being replaced with simple 1/1 circles
00:42:877 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - also tbh i have no clue what you follow with these
like why is half the combo offbeat necessary there i don't hear anything interesting on reds to begin with lol
Syph - Today at 3:40 PM
the trumpet or whatever
lol
pentori asked the same
Okorin - Today at 3:41 PM
oh so the hitsounding suggests so strongly that you're mapping drums
Syph - Today at 3:41 PM
ya i used hitsound copier
;;
Okorin - Today at 3:41 PM
while mapping suggests you map trumpet
Syph - Today at 3:41 PM
in extra i mapped both so you know
thats kinda what happened
Okorin - Today at 3:42 PM
should assume that if mappers can't discern what you're following that the ones the diff is for will be at a total loss lol

Len

2,812 posts

Joined June 2012

Len 2017-01-22T22:10:19+00:00

normal oldver

osu file format v14

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3rd irc

i hope that
http://puu.sh/ts6od/7068db481d.jpg

something like
overlaps approach circles
make easier..
Syph - Last Friday at 5:53 AM
what do you mean ;;
Len - Last Friday at 5:53 AM
imean
sorry im so sleepy
Syph - Last Friday at 5:54 AM
it's okay
I'm trying to understand but it's hard aa
Len - Last Friday at 5:54 AM
it can be misread and it looks tricky
Syph - Last Friday at 5:54 AM
ohh
Len - Last Friday at 5:54 AM
ok ????
its normal
Syph - Last Friday at 5:55 AM
I see
Len - Last Friday at 5:55 AM
not a hard......
i understand anti flows
Syph - Last Friday at 5:55 AM
I never map low diffs.. so it's not good
still learning
Len - Last Friday at 5:55 AM
http://puu.sh/ts6DF/11ed4a5098.jpg

http://puu.sh/ts6F1/e1e6e1bb88.jpg

http://puu.sh/ts6FM/7381ba6c47.jpg

Syph - Last Friday at 5:56 AM
those are ok right?
Len - Last Friday at 5:56 AM
a bit dangerous but
hope you can fix.....
http://puu.sh/ts6J8/dba7966f8e.jpg

Syph - Last Friday at 5:57 AM
maybe they are a little bit hard but I feel like they make sense with music and actually pretty easy movement..
Len - Last Friday at 5:57 AM
you dont know cuz you are pro at standard
spec 10k ppls
they cant fc it i guess..
100k*
Syph - Last Friday at 5:58 AM
that's what I did tho
I asked lower rank friends to try it
Len - Last Friday at 5:58 AM
or
increase ar
to 6 arouond
5.8
http://puu.sh/ts6Q3/9d666eaff0.jpg

;;
Syph - Last Friday at 5:59 AM
that's all I have to do? o.o
what's wrong with that one ;;
Len - Last Friday at 5:59 AM
http://puu.sh/ts6RX/0efb12660e.jpg

Syph - Last Friday at 5:59 AM
ohh
Syph - Last Friday at 6:00 AM
I'm not on pc right now so can't check properly but I think I did that to emphasize a cymbal crash or something lol
Len - Last Friday at 6:00 AM
http://puu.sh/ts6Vi/c15ee700f9.jpg

ez
Syph - Last Friday at 6:00 AM
ye
idk how to map normal
only experience with extra so I map like that in normal too zz
Len - Last Friday at 6:01 AM
http://puu.sh/ts70z/a24a592c40.jpg http://puu.sh/ts6YX/6edeb457bb.jpg

which one is easy...
Syph - Last Friday at 6:01 AM
actually
I thought myself
Len - Last Friday at 6:01 AM
yes
Syph - Last Friday at 6:02 AM
that maybe is too hard
so I asked yuii
and he said it's fine
so I did that..
Len - Last Friday at 6:02 AM
im not yuii .....

4th irc

06:49 Len: hey
06:50 Syph: hello~
06:52 *Len is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109186 TRUE - Soundscape [Normal]]
06:52 Syph: o
06:52 Len: 00:03:522 (1) -
06:52 Syph: 1 sec let me restart osu
06:53 Syph: ok
06:53 *Syph is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109186 TRUE - Soundscape [Normal]]
06:53 Len: 00:03:522 (1,2,3) -
06:53 Len: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7129205
06:53 Len: moer ez
06:53 Len: 00:04:651 (3) - change to 1/1
06:53 Len: 00:05:296 - and replace these sliders
06:54 Len: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7129209
06:54 Len: something like
06:54 Len: 00:17:393 (3) -
06:54 Syph: https://sy.phic.al/i/subsrrb.png
06:54 Syph: this ok too?
06:55 Len: yes just
06:55 Len: fix distance
06:55 Syph: i did~
06:55 Len: 00:18:038 (2) - add reverse
06:56 Syph: done
06:56 Len: 00:17:393 (1) -
06:56 Len: i recommend that
06:56 Len: replace like this
06:56 Len: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7129231
06:57 Syph: ok
06:57 Syph: i did
06:57 Len: 00:19:006 (1,2,3) -
06:57 Len: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7129241
06:58 Syph: also done
06:58 Len: 00:42:232 (1,2,3) -
06:58 Len: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7129251
06:59 Syph: ok
06:59 Len: 00:43:361 -
06:59 Len: fuck puush error
07:00 Syph: @_@
07:00 Len: 00:43:845 - note
07:00 Len: 00:44:006 - 1/1 slider
07:00 Len: 00:44:490 - note
07:00 Len: and replace 00:44:651 - ~
07:00 Len: 00:46:318 (5) - nc
07:01 Syph: both done
07:03 Len: 01:05:780 (5,1) -
07:03 Len: this flow is a bit awkward to play
07:03 Len: just replace 1 will be k
07:04 Syph: https://sy.phic.al/i/rydhson.png
07:04 Syph: ?
07:04 Len: ok
07:04 Len: 01:09:812 (2,5) -
07:05 Len: delete
07:05 Syph: are you sure it would not cause spread problem with hard
07:05 Syph: if i do that
07:06 Len: i think its fine cuz
07:06 Len: you choose high sv
07:06 Len: or delete 01:09:812 (2) - one
07:06 Len: only*
07:07 Syph: ok ill do that
07:07 Syph: https://sy.phic.al/i/tpbtomc.png
07:07 Syph: good position?
07:07 Syph: idk
07:07 Len: dd
07:07 Len: ㅇㅇ
07:07 Len: 01:25:458 (3) - addrev
07:08 Len: and replace 01:25:941 (1,2,3) -
07:08 Len: end
07:08 Syph: i talked with oko about this
07:08 Syph: he said this is better than reverse
07:08 Syph: easier to play
07:08 Syph: idk..
07:09 Syph: or well he didnt say its easier but this pattern was his suggestion
07:09 Len: then
07:09 Len: 01:25:296 (2,3) -
07:09 Len: fix distance errer only
07:09 Syph: o
07:09 Syph: i missed that oops..
07:09 Syph: fixed
07:10 Len: i wrote
07:10 Len: old ver
07:10 Len: to your thread
07:10 Len: if someone saying about normal-hard gaps
07:11 Len: then use it and fix some patterns
07:11 Len: will bubble it after you done
07:11 Syph: ok
07:11 Syph: ill update it now then
07:11 Syph: no other changes needed
07:11 Len: a
07:11 Len: wait
07:11 Len: 00:47:393 - note
07:11 *Len is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1103436 TRUE - Soundscape [Easy]]
07:11 Len: East
07:11 Syph: o
07:11 Len: easy
07:12 Len: i recommend
07:12 Len: that
07:12 Len: 00:46:264 -
07:12 Syph: can i stack on 00:47:716 (1) - ?
07:12 Len: add spinner
07:12 Syph: or where should i place it
07:12 Len: to 00:47:393 -
07:12 Syph: oh
07:12 Syph: ok
07:12 Len: and delete 00:47:716 (1) -
07:12 Syph: i do that
07:13 Len: 00:46:318 -
07:13 Syph: https://sy.phic.al/i/rkpjkhn.png
07:13 Syph: so like this then?
07:13 Len: yes
07:13 Len: but
07:13 Len: spinner should start at
07:13 Len: 00:46:318 -
07:13 Len: 1/3 snap
07:13 Syph: o yea 1/3
07:13 Len: 00:45:458 (2) -
07:13 Len: snap
07:13 Len: o wait
07:14 Syph: 1/3 is bad in easy right
07:14 Len: 00:45:995 -
07:14 Len: 00:45:941 -
07:14 Len: which is correct
07:14 Syph: both are
07:14 Syph: but the strongest sound is on 1/3
07:14 Len: but all diffs
07:14 Len: snapped at
07:14 Len: 1/2
07:15 Len: ..
07:15 Syph: yea because 1/2 works too
07:15 Syph: theres sound on both
07:15 Len: ok
07:15 Syph: cymbal crash on 1/2 and trumpet on 1/3
07:15 Len: then
07:15 Len: 1/2
07:15 Syph: ok
07:15 Len: i still dont like kalibes and wajis
07:16 Syph: ;-;
07:17 Syph: i updated
07:18 *Len is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1108701 TRUE - Soundscape [Depths' Symphonic Extreme]]
07:18 Len: 01:01:264 (2) - im tilting
07:18 Syph: whats wrong with it
07:18 Syph: hs?
07:18 Len: antistack
07:19 Len: but seems ok ..
07:19 Syph: o
07:19 Syph: he wants to be skystar..
07:19 Len: some mappers tried to copy skystar but failed
07:19 Len: karia is one of
07:19 Len: best fail
07:19 Syph: i dont really get it
07:20 Syph: just map your own way.....
07:20 Len: make own style
07:20 Len: is good good
07:20 Syph: yes
07:20 Syph: why try to be someone else
07:20 Syph: o well.....
07:21 Len: 01:25:458 (3,4) -
07:21 *Len is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109186 TRUE - Soundscape [Normal]]
07:21 Syph: e?
07:22 Len: its only 1.5
07:23 Syph: i dont understand
07:23 Len: isnt it
07:23 Len: distance error
07:23 Len: but well
07:23 Len: nazi things
07:23 Len: thing
07:23 Syph: oh
07:23 Syph: well i fixed it just now
07:23 Len: good
07:24 Syph: i thought it was ok because didnt say anything about it in aimod

edited for leaving irc logs

Last edited by Len 2017-01-22T22:40:05+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Syph

848 posts

Joined August 2014

Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-22T22:29:35+00:00

yay

Depths

681 posts

Joined January 2014

Depths 2017-01-22T23:14:51+00:00

owo

Kalibe

2,060 posts

Joined October 2013

Kalibe 2017-01-23T00:04:36+00:00

oh.

syph can you update my diff before qualify?

i just fixed few patterns in my diff especially to avoid unnessesary overlaps :S
also fixed what len said earlier

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Len

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Len 2017-01-23T09:42:20+00:00

Call me after you done

Syph

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Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-23T10:10:46+00:00

kalibeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

done

Len

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Len 2017-01-23T15:12:36+00:00

irc with gd mapper

2017-01-23 22:56 Kalibe: ?
2017-01-23 22:57 Len: wait a min
2017-01-23 22:57 Kalibe: ok
2017-01-23 22:59 Len: wanna say something for improving ur diff
2017-01-23 22:59 Kalibe: ya sure
2017-01-23 22:59 Len: but im working now
2017-01-23 22:59 Len: so you have to wait
2017-01-23 22:59 Len: for a while
2017-01-23 23:00 Kalibe: oh
2017-01-23 23:00 Kalibe: no problem then =w=
2017-01-23 23:20 Len: hello
2017-01-23 23:20 Len: sorry for this
2017-01-23 23:21 Len: can u open ur diff on true soundscape
2017-01-23 23:21 Len: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109569 TRUE - Soundscape [Kalibe's Insane]]
2017-01-23 23:22 Kalibe: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1109569 TRUE - Soundscape [Kalibe's Insane]]
2017-01-23 23:22 Len: 00:13:522 (1) -
2017-01-23 23:23 Len: what do you think about that change to note
2017-01-23 23:23 Kalibe: hm
2017-01-23 23:23 Kalibe: i wanted to follow vocal here
2017-01-23 23:23 Kalibe: i can change curve
2017-01-23 23:25 Len: then
2017-01-23 23:25 Len: 00:12:877 (2) -
2017-01-23 23:25 Len: stack on 00:11:909 (3) - s head
2017-01-23 23:25 Len: first
2017-01-23 23:25 Kalibe: yes
2017-01-23 23:26 Len: try 00:13:522 (1,1) - http://puu.sh/twMiE/c823fd3659.jpg
2017-01-23 23:26 Len: ?
2017-01-23 23:26 Kalibe: btw i could add a note on 00:13:441 -
2017-01-23 23:27 Len: if you do
2017-01-23 23:27 Len: you should add 00:13:280 - too
2017-01-23 23:29 Kalibe: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7133605
2017-01-23 23:29 Kalibe: ?
2017-01-23 23:30 Kalibe: that snap is kinda off in my ears
2017-01-23 23:30 Len: yes
2017-01-23 23:30 Len: up to you
2017-01-23 23:30 Kalibe: i hear it more on 1/3 than 1/4 xd
2017-01-23 23:31 Len: 00:46:318 (1,2,1,2,3) -
2017-01-23 23:31 Len: so dirty
2017-01-23 23:31 Kalibe: specially :d
2017-01-23 23:31 Kalibe: but wait i'll do something here
2017-01-23 23:36 Len: 00:48:683 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2017-01-23 23:36 Len: so close http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7133648
2017-01-23 23:41 Kalibe: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7133681 ?
2017-01-23 23:41 Kalibe: and i removed a slider from 00:48:361 (6) - , added circle instead
2017-01-23 23:42 Len: can u give me osu file
2017-01-23 23:43 Kalibe: http://puu.sh/twNoc/daf841067b.osu
2017-01-23 23:46 Len: ok

rebubbled

Garden

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Garden 2017-01-24T15:40:48+00:00

lets go

Syph

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Syph 2017-01-24T15:41:02+00:00

thank youuuuu

Depths

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wew

wajinshu

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wajinshu 2017-01-24T16:38:23+00:00

yay

Kalibe

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Kalibe 2017-01-24T16:57:59+00:00

Depths wrote:
wew

grats garden on 500 post

Agatsu

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Agatsu 2017-01-25T00:09:33+00:00

yuri symphony

LMT

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LMT 2017-01-25T00:48:19+00:00

There are a few things I would like to point out on the top diff before this being moved the ranked section.

[Yuri Symphony]

Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
- 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason.
- 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section.
- 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song.
00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth.
00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures.
00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too.
00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better.
01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact.
01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place .
00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too.

Please do not take this as an offence, if I'd looked at the top diff before being qualified I would've given my concerns, unfortunately I only found it out after being qualified.

Vell

359 posts

Joined October 2013

Vell 2017-01-25T01:41:12+00:00

Gonna argue against some of these myself since I like the map and would prefer some of these points to not be changed

LMT wrote:
[Yuri Symphony]
Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
- 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. extended slider are very much justified for sounds like this if there is nothing on the red tick. You would not want to make 00:34:812 - not clickable so an extended slider fits very well
00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. this one should be here since there is actually a sound to emphasize on 00:14:087 - . this is perfectly fine to read as well since the spacing between 4 and 5 already suggest that this has to be a 3/4 slider
00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it emphasizes the clearly stronger drum hits only present on these 2 ticks. he probably didnt want to make a stream out of the toms after this because they are very quite and a 1/2 rhythm is more suggested here
00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. its a much smoother transition from the piano stream to the drum stream than doing a regular streamjump
01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . they are not emphasizing the guitar but rather serve as a transition from the 1 2 3 rhythm to the regular 1/2 rhythm

although I personally dont find it to be much of an issue, I agree with the overmap on 00:25:377 (6) - , it kinda takes away emphasize on parts like these 00:28:603 - which commonly appear, use the same pattern but not on the same sound

LMT

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LMT 2017-01-25T02:12:28+00:00

Vell wrote:
[Yuri Symphony]
Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
- 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. extended slider are very much justified for sounds like this if there is nothing on the red tick. You would not want to make 00:34:812 - not clickable so an extended slider fits very well Extended sliders are used because you want to emphasise a prolonged sound (in this map's case it's the prolonged vocal/ solo sax sounds), not because there's a red tick or not. I suggested a 1/1 circle (not a slider!!) because the next object is still clickable while not getting into overmapping territory.
00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. this one should be here since there is actually a sound to emphasize on 00:14:087 - . this is perfectly fine to read as well since the spacing between 4 and 5 already suggest that this has to be a 3/4 slider I'm suggesting a 1/1 slider and I don't think I hear a sound on the blue tick, except for maybe that's where the sax stops which is only audible when you slow it down and generally not something a player would hear during gameplay. 4 and 5 are at least 1 beat away from 1 and 2 and in this timescale so I don't see how that's a thing to justify readability.
00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it emphasizes the clearly stronger drum hits only present on these 2 ticks. he probably didnt want to make a stream out of the toms after this because they are very quite and a 1/2 rhythm is more suggested here toms are played not for the purpose of making itself quiet. Also using a 1/4 slider rhythm here would differentiate the 1 2 rhythm earlier better as well. I don't think you can argue you he's following the vocals either as "hibike" lies on 2 3 4.
00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. its a much smoother transition from the piano stream to the drum stream than doing a regular streamjump which was why I suggested mapping a full stream instead of mapping (2) as it would (potentially) break the concept.
01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . they are not emphasizing the guitar but rather serve as a transition from the 1 2 3 rhythm to the regular 1/2 rhythm you can map just 1/2 circles normally instead of 1/4 and they would also be a smooth transition to the 1/2 rhythm. Also, transition is meant to be mapped to something that makes sense too as the song does introduces elements that take you from the previous rhythm to the normal 1/2 rhythm.

Just some counter-arguments

Syph

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Topic Starter

Syph 2017-01-25T06:35:33+00:00

LMT wrote:
There are a few things I would like to point out on the top diff before this being moved the ranked section.

[Yuri Symphony]
Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
- 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason. these are all extended to follow vocal a bit better, I like using them to emphasize other stuff afterwards too, which is the case with the first 2 you've mentioned, don't really see what's wrong about this
- 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. idk what to even call what it's following but it is following something :d I think a slider fits a lot better than a 1/1 circle, it's not the only one either, I did it here too 00:33:038 (1) -
- 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song. yeah I guess these 2 parts are similar but do I really have to keep things consistent idk, I feel like it's fine lol

00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. 1x SV into 0.75x SV isn't a big change, the spacing makes sense to emphasize cymbal crash etc, this is easily readable.. I haven't seen anyone play this wrong, perhaps a #20k would have trouble with this but it is a 6 star after all?
00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures. but how is this overmapping when there's sounds on there..?
00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it's because of the sound on 00:45:377 - , people complained about ignoring that thus I did a 1/4 slider instead since I really don't want to put a triple, plays awkward to me in a section with so much movement
00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. 00:48:038 (2) - for some spacing into the piano, and like Vell said 00:48:522 (7) - this plays a lot easier into drums than having a streamjump
01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact. because emphasizing it the same way there would end up ignoring the downbeat which has even more impact?
01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . yeah they're on the guitar but I feel like it's a lot more prominent there, I don't really see how it's overmapping either when you know it's following the guitar zz
00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too. if you're talking about the overlap, these things are intentional sorry!
Please do not take this as an offence, if I'd looked at the top diff before being qualified I would've given my concerns, unfortunately I only found it out after being qualified.

thanks

also thanks Vell ><

LMT

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LMT 2017-01-25T11:28:48+00:00

Syph wrote:
[Yuri Symphony]
Generally the overuse of extended sliders make the rhythm density feel overdone. I'm fine with the ones that have actual extended sounds but the ones I'm listing out don't quite convey the elements in the song very well:
- 00:26:425 (6) - vocals are not prolonged here , especially this 00:31:587 (6) - as the vocalist has to stop the previous syllable to prepare for the significant change in pitch. 00:47:716 (1) - same reason. these are all extended to follow vocal a bit better, I like using them to emphasize other stuff afterwards too, which is the case with the first 2 you've mentioned, don't really see what's wrong about this The thing about "following the vocal a bit better" is you can literally add any extended slider if you use the extended slider argument, like 00:15:135 (1,4) - 00:18:361 (4,5) - 00:19:651 (3,4) - ,... anywhere else. It is a technique that you neglect the red tick and overmap sliderend to emphasise something more prominent and should be used more sparingly and carefully than "vocals, solo sax and other things"
- 00:34:490 (1) - you've used extended sliders for vocals and the solo sax, but they don't exist here. There isn't a beat on the red tick as well so a 1/1 circle would be sufficient. This is also the only extended slider in this section. idk what to even call what it's following but it is following something :d I think a slider fits a lot better than a 1/1 circle, it's not the only one either, I did it here too 00:33:038 (1) - my reasoning here would be as above, "it's following something" would not be an argument to use such technique. The slider you pointed out can be argued to follow the prolonged vocals there so I didn't point it out.
- 00:49:006 (1,2) - 00:59:329 (1) - mixed up concepts on this rather prominent moment of the song. yeah I guess these 2 parts are similar but do I really have to keep things consistent idk, I feel like it's fine lol So what's the reasoning to use extended slider there or it is something "I feel like it fit", if it is so then my argument for the first point still stands. Quite a memorable moment in the song, I would not recommend messing up with concepts in places like this.

00:13:845 (1) - not sure if a 0.75x SV change + a 3/4 rhythm here is appropriate since that 3/4 slider looks exactly like a 1/2 slider and the pattern could be read as a circle on the blue tick given the spacing concept. For a transition like this a more regular rhythm like a 1/1 slider would make the transition more smooth. 1x SV into 0.75x SV isn't a big change, the spacing makes sense to emphasize cymbal crash etc, this is easily readable.. I haven't seen anyone play this wrong, perhaps a #20k would have trouble with this but it is a 6 star after all? it's not really about whether this is playable or not (I had no trouble playing this, true), it's whether it makes sense to use an extended slider there. The spacing I mentioned has nothing to do with the cymbal crash by the way, sorry for confusing you a little bit. This isn't such a big issue if it weren't for the extended slider so I wouldn't nitpick this, as long as you have a correct reason to use extended slider here.
00:25:377 (6,1) - overmapping at a calm section like this seems unjustified, especially when you structure extended slider -> downbeat in other measures. but how is this overmapping when there's sounds on there..? I can't hear a sound on the blue tick (00:25:377 (6) - this note)
00:45:296 (3) - I don't understand why this is left out like this. If it is to emphasise and pick out the toms then 00:45:458 (1,2,3) - these should be made into 1/4 sliders too. it's because of the sound on 00:45:377 - , people complained about ignoring that thus I did a 1/4 slider instead since I really don't want to put a triple, plays awkward to me in a section with so much movement I did not suggest you changing to a triple but rather a different rhythm to separate 2 different patterns the song has: 00:43:845 (2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2) - emphasis based on sax "back-and-forth" pitch/snare+kick drums | 00:45:296 (3,1,2,3,4) - emphasis based on the toms and the sax pitch is having a different pattern. If you try sth like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7147176, it doesn't play that much different but these two things are well separated and give each of them a better emphasis.
00:48:038 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - don't quite understand the 1/4 slider concept here. I'd assume you use 00:48:038 (2) - this to emphasise the vocals, but why not this 00:48:361 (5) - ? If you want to emphasise the piano slide then a stream would pick it out better. 00:48:038 (2) - for some spacing into the piano, and like Vell said 00:48:522 (7) - this plays a lot easier into drums than having a streamjump fair enough
01:00:135 (1) - you emphasise the vocals here 01:01:425 (8) - but not here, even though the impact on (8) is very large due to the building up. I'd go so far as skipping the downbeat to emphasise this impact. because emphasizing it the same way there would end up ignoring the downbeat which has even more impact? are you sure the downbeat has that big an impact here? Try putting a 1/1 here instead (or 3/4 slider + circle here since that's what you do a lot). The reason why is so much stronger than the downbeat is because the building up from these two notes 01:00:135 (1,5) - emphasised by 1/2 sliders which leads to this note, however you've overshadowed this climax by putting it as a circle and put the slider on the downbeat instead.
01:24:329 (1,2) - you use 1/4 sliders here (which means overmapping the sliderends) to emphasise the guitar but then 01:25:135 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you use 1/2 circles for the rest of them, basically mixing up concepts at the same place . yeah they're on the guitar but I feel like it's a lot more prominent there, I don't really see how it's overmapping either when you know it's following the guitar zz Sliderends are overmapped, i'm not talking about the sliderheads which is why I suggested 1/2 circles instead. About it being more prominent or not, it's just this is where the guitar comes in (which is non-existent before) gives you a feeling that it's more prominent, in fact it really isn't.
00:50:780 (5) - while at it you can clean up things like this too. if you're talking about the overlap, these things are intentional sorry! There are things that are intentional but doesn't make sense http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7147225 I fail to see any reasoning or structure behind this however I won't nitpick you on this since it's not very important.

Syph

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Syph 2017-01-25T12:41:40+00:00

there's not much else I have to say, my reasoning should be enough. Sorry for not mapping it like you want it to be mapped I guess

Lazer

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Lazer 2017-01-25T12:58:20+00:00

dissapointed in last diff name it isnt forbidden symphony

Syph

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Syph 2017-01-25T12:58:49+00:00

Lazer wrote:
dissapointed in last diff name it isnt forbidden symphony

sry

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Spork Lover 2017-01-26T12:37:56+00:00

Gratz :3

IamKwaN

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IamKwaN 2017-01-27T03:39:18+00:00

http://anime-eupho.com/product/2nd-cd/#ost

You could use サウンドスケープ(TV size) / Soundscape(TV size) as the Titles, poke me if you want to amend it. If not, it's fine too.

Syph

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Syph 2017-01-28T05:06:58+00:00

would rather keep it the same as the other ranked ver..

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-01-31T13:11:46+00:00

I approve the bg