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Topic Starter
Shurelia
Did some too :
1. 02:11:751 (7) - changed into a 1/3 repeat since I feel 02:11:947 - need some love
2. 02:27:634 (6,7) - Increased the DS into 1.5x (old is 1.3x) to follow the vocal more properly

Nothing major overall.
jonathanlfj
00:11:444 (1) - supposed to be 1/6
04:29:067 - red line should be at 04:29:049
Topic Starter
Shurelia
5 times BN check , this thing goin to be good.
jonathanlfj
gonna have to reset to #1, ask Celsius again for #2
Shiranai
04:47:799 (1,2,3,4) - I think the shape could be neater, like a curve http://puu.sh/tjuOM/1161a5aa22.jpg

06:54:272 - I doubt that 5% volume on those part barely hearable for circles feedback, since they are not spinner or slider end so using mute or 5% volume not a good choice in this case. Also I kinda confuse what to follow there actually, since the orgel sound start to be hear louder than the fade vocal itself. I think you need new timing or sth there to resync the part

Just a quick overlook, you probably want to reconsider the last thing I point out above
Mir

Mako Sakata wrote:

04:47:799 (1,2,3,4) - I think the shape could be neater, like a curve http://puu.sh/tjuOM/1161a5aa22.jpg - alriggghht

06:54:272 - I doubt that 5% volume on those part barely hearable for circles feedback, since they are not spinner or slider end so using mute or 5% volume not a good choice in this case. Also I kinda confuse what to follow there actually, since the orgel sound start to be hear louder than the fade vocal itself. I think you need new timing or sth there to resync the part - we really tried to do our best with what to follow here but it really can't be helped when you have 96 bpm and 89 bpm playing at once. we just chose to follow what we've been following the whole song so it's not a weird transition but we increased it to 10%

Just a quick overlook, you probably want to reconsider the last thing I point out above
So... yeah.
jonathanlfj
rebub #1
Iceskulls
#2
AlneCraft
HYPE HYPE HYPE
Topic Starter
Shurelia
HYPE
Mir
Please nothing bad happen. ;w;
Doyak
Did some IRC mod with both.

with Shurelia
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: Would you like to IRC?
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: (mod)
2017-01-18 15:13 Shurelia: ooh, sure.
2017-01-18 15:14 Shurelia: alright, I'm redy.
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: 00:58:222 (1,2) - I can hear 5 sounds here
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: including 00:58:810 -
2017-01-18 15:15 Shurelia: means there's a sound around 00:58:737 - here?
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: I think it's not a 1/4+1/6 thing
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: more likely be 5 equal beats
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: ooh, means I should change the 1/4 slider into a circles?
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: so idk actually
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: hmm
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: this kind of case sucks
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: probably the current one is already the most fit.
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: since
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: 00:58:222 (1,2) - these two did play well on following the violins.
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: or probably 00:58:810 (1) - is lack of emphasis?
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: Well
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: http://puu.sh/tqg5S/8de44e87a4.png
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: it's like this
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: with the first 5 being in 1 1/1 beat
2017-01-18 15:20 Shurelia: I'm not a musician but I'll try to understand.
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'm not sure what to do in these cases
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'll just ask other BNs
2017-01-18 15:21 Shurelia: Alright. Please do.
2017-01-18 15:21 Doyak: oh I got something to do real quick
2017-01-18 15:21 Doyak: brb in 5 minutes
2017-01-18 15:21 Shurelia: take your time.
2017-01-18 15:31 Doyak: Well let's put that aside atm
2017-01-18 15:31 Shurelia: Alright then.
2017-01-18 15:31 Doyak: I brought this up on a nominator server
2017-01-18 15:32 Doyak: 01:14:104 (3,4) - Why is this much closer than 1,2?
2017-01-18 15:32 Shurelia: you mean discord's ?
2017-01-18 15:32 Doyak: Yes
2017-01-18 15:32 Shurelia: woops, fixed.
2017-01-18 15:34 Doyak: 01:31:751 (1) - is quite weird since you're suddenly changing to the drums
2017-01-18 15:34 Doyak: while 01:30:820 (4,5,2,3,4,5) - are all following the melody
2017-01-18 15:36 Shurelia: 01:31:751 (1) - not my part tbh but I can tell that Mir wants to give more emphasis to a new section.
2017-01-18 15:36 Shurelia: I mean.
2017-01-18 15:36 Shurelia: 01:31:751 (1) - did follow the melody too, imo.
2017-01-18 15:36 Doyak: it missed the melody on 01:32:045 -
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: any suggestion?
2017-01-18 15:37 Doyak: the sliderend only represents the drum
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: so
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: how about
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: i reduced the slider into red
2017-01-18 15:37 Doyak: Is this a collab?
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: and then add a circle on 01:32:192 - ?
2017-01-18 15:37 Shurelia: yep
2017-01-18 15:38 Doyak: ah I see
2017-01-18 15:38 Doyak: Is it fine for you to fix his part?
2017-01-18 15:38 Shurelia: yep, he told me if it's not something major, He leave it to my judgement.
2017-01-18 15:38 Shurelia: IF he's not online now.
2017-01-18 15:39 Shurelia: (well, he's not online now so...)
2017-01-18 15:39 Doyak: I'd like to point some more general things as well though
2017-01-18 15:39 Shurelia: Hmm, I see.
2017-01-18 15:39 Doyak: like in this part,
2017-01-18 15:39 Doyak: some 1/2 spacings are almost equal to that of 1/4s
2017-01-18 15:39 Doyak: 01:22:339 (1,2,3) -
2017-01-18 15:40 Doyak: like this is quite sudden
2017-01-18 15:40 Shurelia: aah, probably he's trying to match the the spacings
2017-01-18 15:40 Doyak: 01:28:516 (5,6) - 01:30:869 (4,5,1) - compare these
2017-01-18 15:40 Shurelia: with the music.
2017-01-18 15:40 Shurelia: since this is a hymn not a normal song.
2017-01-18 15:41 Shurelia: like the music is just randomly went intense in a section.
2017-01-18 15:41 Shurelia: and then back to calm mode.
2017-01-18 15:41 Doyak: I can see that
2017-01-18 15:41 Doyak: but readability is also important
2017-01-18 15:42 Doyak: I won't say it should be readable in one's first try but well
2017-01-18 15:42 Doyak: I can live with this I guess
2017-01-18 15:43 Shurelia: Mmh.
2017-01-18 15:43 Shurelia: oh mir's online now
2017-01-18 15:44 Shurelia: I'll call him.
2017-01-18 15:45 Doyak: 02:12:339 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't quite understand this rhythm
2017-01-18 15:45 Shurelia: that's mine
2017-01-18 15:46 Doyak: It more feels lik http://puu.sh/tqheQ/7bf62e53e0.jpg
2017-01-18 15:46 Shurelia: that one, I'm trying to follow the drum's sound at there.
2017-01-18 15:46 Doyak: Yeah but I don't hear that many sounds on 4,5
2017-01-18 15:47 Shurelia: hmmm
2017-01-18 15:47 Shurelia: your suggestion then?
2017-01-18 15:47 Doyak: Just that one I captured
2017-01-18 15:47 Shurelia: https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/Ao1GVJow ?
2017-01-18 15:48 Shurelia: ooh
2017-01-18 15:48 Doyak: That's gonna be pretty confusing to play
2017-01-18 15:48 Shurelia: I want to click something on 5 so
2017-01-18 15:48 Shurelia: aaah
2017-01-18 15:48 Shurelia: alright then
2017-01-18 15:49 Doyak: it'll be a nice transition to 02:13:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - these 1/4 rhythms too
2017-01-18 15:50 Shurelia: https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/2zxCDcKK what do you think?
2017-01-18 15:50 Shurelia: I stack'd em so it can emphasize the drum more.
2017-01-18 15:51 Doyak: Hmm do as you want
2017-01-18 15:51 Shurelia: alright then.
2017-01-18 15:54 Doyak: 03:10:575 - for this part's snaps
2017-01-18 15:54 Doyak: I think the trills are all on 1/8s
2017-01-18 15:54 Shurelia: That's mir's.
2017-01-18 15:54 Doyak: this is quite minor I think
2017-01-18 15:54 Doyak: 03:17:634 (1) -
2017-01-18 15:55 Doyak: 03:19:104 (5) - 03:19:104 (5) -
2017-01-18 15:55 Doyak: all should be 1/8s I think
2017-01-18 15:55 Shurelia: someone already pointed that
2017-01-18 15:55 Shurelia: let's see
2017-01-18 15:55 Shurelia: actually Mir is online now.
2017-01-18 15:55 Doyak: I mean it's just about consistency
2017-01-18 15:55 Doyak: I know
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: but he'll be gone to school in a few minutes
2017-01-18 15:56 Shurelia: You can ask for reasonings better from him for this part.
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: okay I'll ask him now
2017-01-18 15:56 Shurelia: okii
2017-01-18 16:07 Doyak: Okay now let's continue
2017-01-18 16:07 Shurelia: alright
2017-01-18 16:07 Doyak: He told you some things to fix, right?
2017-01-18 16:08 Shurelia: yep
2017-01-18 16:08 Shurelia: already fixed it
2017-01-18 16:13 Doyak: oh wow you put some red lines on the end
2017-01-18 16:13 Doyak: but not on 03:48:369 - the break?
2017-01-18 16:14 Doyak: I think the break should rather have one
2017-01-18 16:14 Doyak: it'll be terrible to listen to that part with NC
2017-01-18 16:15 Shurelia: what do you mean?
2017-01-18 16:15 Shurelia: there should be a redline there?
2017-01-18 16:15 Doyak: Yeah
2017-01-18 16:15 Doyak: just listen to that part
2017-01-18 16:15 Doyak: it's all out of snaps
2017-01-18 16:15 Doyak: until you reset it on 04:08:438 -
2017-01-18 16:16 Shurelia: not gonna be necessary since there's nothing at there.
2017-01-18 16:17 Doyak: then what about 07:14:419 - 07:15:767 - ?
2017-01-18 16:17 Doyak: and as I said it still has some effect
2017-01-18 16:17 Doyak: like when you play with NC
2017-01-18 16:17 Shurelia: true enough
2017-01-18 16:17 Doyak: or on the menu
2017-01-18 16:18 Shurelia: but uuhhh.
2017-01-18 16:18 Shurelia: the other parts that you mentioned are also the empty part.
2017-01-18 16:18 Shurelia: it doesn't affect the gameplay.
2017-01-18 16:18 Doyak: so leave them be
2017-01-18 16:18 Doyak: and add one on the break too
2017-01-18 16:19 Shurelia: what bpm is it gonna be? :thinking:
2017-01-18 16:21 Doyak: :thinking2:
2017-01-18 16:21 Doyak: It doesn't need to be super accurate
2017-01-18 16:22 Doyak: btw, can I assume that all distance-random part Mir's?
2017-01-18 16:22 Shurelia: hmmm
2017-01-18 16:22 Doyak: is*
2017-01-18 16:22 Shurelia: like which?
2017-01-18 16:23 Doyak: 05:44:860 - this part?
2017-01-18 16:25 Shurelia: yep
2017-01-18 16:26 Doyak: tbh I don't really like varying too much spacing
2017-01-18 16:26 Doyak: It's really unexpected, unstructured, less readable
2017-01-18 16:26 Shurelia: well, for spacing we can fix it.
2017-01-18 16:27 Shurelia: but yeah the spacing as he said.
2017-01-18 16:27 Doyak: It's about general structure though, I wonder if we can fix it one by one
2017-01-18 16:27 Doyak: I think it's up to him
2017-01-18 16:27 Shurelia: really following the music's well
2017-01-18 16:28 Doyak: There are ways to make them more structured while keeping similar distances though
2017-01-18 16:28 Doyak: I think it's just experience
2017-01-18 16:28 Doyak: because spacing is not all that can represent the music's intensity
2017-01-18 16:28 Doyak: He's only doing that through the spacing, so that's where the problem comes from
2017-01-18 16:28 Shurelia: true enough
2017-01-18 16:29 Shurelia: but imo these spacings are quite minor?
2017-01-18 16:29 Shurelia: yes?
2017-01-18 16:29 Doyak: Can't do much at this point, we can go with this for this time
2017-01-18 16:29 Doyak: Let's try fixing some major ones
2017-01-18 16:30 Doyak: and that'll do it for this specific map
2017-01-18 16:30 Shurelia: alright
2017-01-18 16:30 Doyak: 05:18:978 (1,2,3) - like this one
2017-01-18 16:30 Doyak: looks really non-pattern
2017-01-18 16:31 Shurelia: fixed
2017-01-18 16:33 Doyak: Your parts are good
2017-01-18 16:34 Shurelia: mmh, thanks.
2017-01-18 16:34 Shurelia: how come did you know about my parts?
2017-01-18 16:34 Doyak: 05:45:742 (2,3) - 05:56:625 (1,2) - these are only overlapped 1/4s, what do you think?
2017-01-18 16:34 Doyak: hmm
2017-01-18 16:34 Doyak: Your parts look more tidy, I think
2017-01-18 16:35 Doyak: less random, in other words
2017-01-18 16:35 Shurelia: ooh, let's make both of them have same spacing.
2017-01-18 16:35 Shurelia: i give 'em 1.0x what do you think?
2017-01-18 16:35 Doyak: oh I mean
2017-01-18 16:36 Doyak: 05:47:801 (2,3,4) - 05:48:978 (6,7) -
2017-01-18 16:36 Doyak: all other slider-to-something 1/4s are spaced out
2017-01-18 16:36 Shurelia: aaah
2017-01-18 16:36 Shurelia: alright, let's make it spaced out.
2017-01-18 16:36 Doyak: Those two aren't particularly special or anything, so it's just unpolished
2017-01-18 16:37 Doyak: also I can see Mir really relys on to the blankets
2017-01-18 16:37 Shurelia: yeah, he really loves blanketing things
2017-01-18 16:37 Doyak: and sometimes 05:55:448 (4,5) - this kind of werid wide 1/4 balnkets happen
2017-01-18 16:38 Doyak: even bigger than 1/2 blanket 05:58:390 (5,1) -
2017-01-18 16:38 Shurelia: means he's forcing stuff for blanket
2017-01-18 16:39 Doyak: now you can see many flaws on his part too
2017-01-18 16:40 Shurelia: hmm
2017-01-18 16:41 Doyak: Okay, now update?
2017-01-18 16:41 Doyak: I'd like to see how things are changed
2017-01-18 16:41 Shurelia: 05:58:978 (1,2) - I ctrl+g 'd these.
2017-01-18 16:41 Shurelia: what do you think?
2017-01-18 16:42 Shurelia: I also did fix some of his parts too.
2017-01-18 16:42 Doyak: Yeah it would be great if you can help him fixing some things
2017-01-18 16:42 Shurelia: so, should I update?
2017-01-18 16:42 Doyak: Yup, update
2017-01-18 16:43 Doyak: if things are okay then we can move on to hitsounds
2017-01-18 16:43 Shurelia: oki
2017-01-18 16:45 Shurelia: done
2017-01-18 16:48 Doyak: redling
2017-01-18 16:48 Shurelia: btw deciding to leave this 03:48:810 - part cause ehehehehe , no big problem ehehehehe.
2017-01-18 16:48 Shurelia: orz
2017-01-18 16:50 Doyak: btw are you going to keep this OD7.7?
2017-01-18 16:51 Doyak: This will be like an acc hell lol
2017-01-18 16:51 Doyak: because of weird timings and irregular beats
2017-01-18 16:51 Shurelia: i can nerf it into 7.5
2017-01-18 16:51 Doyak: I'd prefer it being below 7
2017-01-18 16:51 Doyak: but it's up to you
2017-01-18 16:51 Shurelia: that'd be overkill.
2017-01-18 16:52 Doyak: I can only tell that people will really struggle on accing this
2017-01-18 16:52 Shurelia: let's give it 7.4 then.
2017-01-18 16:52 Shurelia: 7.2 rhen.
2017-01-18 16:52 Doyak: xD
2017-01-18 16:52 Shurelia: my best offer for nerf. T_T
2017-01-18 16:52 Doyak: just use what you want
2017-01-18 16:52 Shurelia: yeah, i know.
2017-01-18 16:53 Doyak: 01:30:869 (4,5,1) - oh no, this is waaaaay too far lol
2017-01-18 16:54 Shurelia: o lol
2017-01-18 16:54 Shurelia: he said just stack it
2017-01-18 16:54 Shurelia: well, I can do something about it
2017-01-18 16:54 Doyak: 01:33:222 (5,6,1) - this as well
2017-01-18 16:54 Doyak: maybe you can just move 01:31:604 (5,1,2,3,4,5) - all to the left
2017-01-18 16:56 Shurelia: o
2017-01-18 16:56 Shurelia: you'r right
2017-01-18 16:57 Shurelia: https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/yCmI0DHQ good neough?
2017-01-18 16:57 Doyak: probably
2017-01-18 16:58 Shurelia: mmh, okay then
2017-01-18 17:01 Doyak: I don't really like 02:21:163 - this part
2017-01-18 17:01 Shurelia: why so?
2017-01-18 17:01 Shurelia: it's mine tho.
2017-01-18 17:02 Shurelia: i made it to build up some tensions for players.
2017-01-18 17:02 Shurelia: like
2017-01-18 17:02 Doyak: ah I mean
2017-01-18 17:02 Shurelia: 02:23:516 (1) - it's like a something new melody for me
2017-01-18 17:02 Doyak: not that one specific pattern
2017-01-18 17:03 Doyak: 02:23:516 (1,2,3,4) -
2017-01-18 17:03 Doyak: 1-2 is close
2017-01-18 17:03 Doyak: but 3-4 is far?
2017-01-18 17:04 Shurelia: 02:24:398 (2,4) - since for some reasons.
2017-01-18 17:04 Shurelia: 2 have lower intense than 4 for me.
2017-01-18 17:04 Shurelia: but yeah , I can reduce that a bit
2017-01-18 17:05 Doyak: Well I actually think the opposite
2017-01-18 17:05 Doyak: since the pitch goes down
2017-01-18 17:05 Doyak: I mean, 1-2 is pretty high
2017-01-18 17:05 Doyak: and 3-4 is lower
2017-01-18 17:06 Shurelia: oooh, you're right.
2017-01-18 17:06 Shurelia: done
2017-01-18 17:06 Doyak: 02:28:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - also here
2017-01-18 17:06 Shurelia: what's about it?
2017-01-18 17:06 Doyak: you can make this without mixing 1/2s and 1/4s into same pattern
2017-01-18 17:07 Doyak: imo every one of these notes
2017-01-18 17:07 Doyak: are quite intense
2017-01-18 17:07 Doyak: so imo there's no reason for the 1/2s to be same as 1/4s
2017-01-18 17:07 Shurelia: you mean the
2017-01-18 17:07 Shurelia: uuhh
2017-01-18 17:08 Shurelia: distance looks?
2017-01-18 17:08 Doyak: idk how to explain
2017-01-18 17:09 Doyak: it's like uhh
2017-01-18 17:09 Doyak: it's better when you can differentiate patterns
2017-01-18 17:09 Shurelia: imo it's already fine tho. But I'm waiting for your explainitation.
2017-01-18 17:09 Doyak: according to the beatsnaps
2017-01-18 17:10 Doyak: like someone would still believe
2017-01-18 17:10 Doyak: if they were all 1/2 gaps
2017-01-18 17:10 Shurelia: aaah
2017-01-18 17:12 Shurelia: like this then ? https://shurelia.s-ul.eu/XowGq8dN
2017-01-18 17:12 Doyak: I think that's better
2017-01-18 17:12 Shurelia: alright then
2017-01-18 17:13 Doyak: but it's always important for you to make yourself understand what you're doing
2017-01-18 17:13 Shurelia: of course I will.
2017-01-18 17:14 Shurelia: I was gonna give some emphasizes at there, but probably it's going to be a bit confusing since you mentioned , it looks similar with 1/2 snaps.
2017-01-18 17:14 Doyak: 03:10:575 - I'd say this is Mir's best part xD
2017-01-18 17:14 Shurelia: Hahaha.
2017-01-18 17:14 Shurelia: XD
2017-01-18 17:18 Doyak: I guess there's not much else to point out
2017-01-18 17:18 Doyak: let me check the hitsounds now then
2017-01-18 17:18 Shurelia: alrighty
2017-01-18 17:18 Shurelia: Ongaku's HS are amazing.
2017-01-18 17:18 Shurelia: :ok_hand:
2017-01-18 17:26 Doyak: Yeah it's nice
2017-01-18 17:27 Doyak: btw no one's still answering to my question about that snap
2017-01-18 17:27 Doyak: actually not many are online
2017-01-18 17:27 Shurelia: uuuu
2017-01-18 17:27 Shurelia: probably try #nominators ?
2017-01-18 17:27 Shurelia: both in osu or discord modding.
2017-01-18 17:27 Doyak: ingame is abaondned mostly
2017-01-18 17:28 Doyak: so maybe let's go to discord
2017-01-18 17:28 Shurelia: yeah.
2017-01-18 17:28 Shurelia: alright, I'll see what's their opinion.
2017-01-18 17:28 Shurelia: you can try to HL 'em
2017-01-18 17:28 Shurelia: to get attentions.
2017-01-18 17:28 Shurelia: It's the purpose of that server after all.
2017-01-18 17:29 Doyak: @nominators you mean?
2017-01-18 17:29 Shurelia: yep.
2017-01-18 17:34 Doyak: and still nobody answers
2017-01-18 17:35 Shurelia: gdi,
2017-01-18 17:35 Shurelia: hmm give it another 5-10 mins?
2017-01-18 17:36 Doyak: meanwhile you can update it
2017-01-18 17:36 Shurelia: stalked the online BNs, either AFK or taking care maps.
2017-01-18 17:37 Doyak: lol
2017-01-18 17:38 Shurelia: if you want my opinion.
2017-01-18 17:38 Shurelia: it's fine as it is.
2017-01-18 17:38 Shurelia: since the 1/5 that you mentioned
2017-01-18 17:38 Shurelia: are barely noticeable.
2017-01-18 17:38 Shurelia: the current rhythm are already covered it good enough that it won't confuse players.
2017-01-18 17:39 Doyak: probably yeah
2017-01-18 17:39 Doyak: if I don't get any better suggestion then I'll live with that
2017-01-18 17:41 Shurelia: yeah, let's wait for now.
2017-01-18 17:41 Shurelia: Ehehehe.
2017-01-18 17:42 Shurelia: I'm watching youtube while waiting lol.
2017-01-18 17:42 Shurelia: and working on my exams.
2017-01-18 17:42 Shurelia: gg
2017-01-18 17:42 Doyak: You can also watch me playing my taiko map with HDFL
2017-01-18 17:42 Shurelia: oo, sure.
2017-01-18 17:43 Shurelia: how one plays HDFL in taiko.
2017-01-18 17:43 Shurelia: like entirely memorizing it all?
2017-01-18 17:43 Doyak: Yeah I'm exactly doing that
2017-01-18 17:43 Doyak: I've played this map so many times
2017-01-18 17:43 Doyak: but barely tried to memorize
2017-01-18 17:43 Doyak: so I'm relying on my muscle memory
2017-01-18 17:44 Shurelia: oh, your own map.
2017-01-18 17:44 Shurelia: that also kinda explain,
2017-01-18 17:45 Doyak: this is my first ranked Taiko map anyway
2017-01-18 17:46 Doyak: can't do this xD
2017-01-18 17:47 Doyak: I can just pass this but idk how to fc
2017-01-18 17:47 Doyak: my fingers don't work even though I know how the rhythm is
2017-01-18 17:48 Shurelia: the how japanese people did it. :thinking:
2017-01-18 17:48 Shurelia: they have tentacles, oh yeah.
2017-01-18 17:49 Doyak: they're not humans
2017-01-18 17:50 Shurelia: if some japanese people aren't humans.
2017-01-18 17:50 Shurelia: what about _yu ? :thinking2:
2017-01-18 17:50 Shurelia: a divine being, yeah.
2017-01-18 17:50 Doyak: divine, that's the perfect word to describe him
2017-01-18 17:50 Shurelia: lol
2017-01-18 17:51 Shurelia: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/898409 Fleshgod Apocalypse - The Deceit / The Violation]
2017-01-18 17:51 Shurelia: the most fucked up Taiko score that i've ever een.
2017-01-18 17:51 Shurelia: *seen.
2017-01-18 17:56 Shurelia: ooh
2017-01-18 17:56 Shurelia: someone's finally replied.
2017-01-18 18:00 Doyak: wow this is crazy
2017-01-18 18:00 Shurelia: super crazy
2017-01-18 18:00 Shurelia: i mean
2017-01-18 18:00 Shurelia: idk about other taiko players much on the leaderboard but
2017-01-18 18:00 Shurelia: I know tasuke that also a monster.
2017-01-18 18:01 Doyak: _yu68 is waaaaay above him
2017-01-18 18:01 Shurelia: yeah.
2017-01-18 18:01 Shurelia: anyway you might want tot check discord again if you haven't
2017-01-18 18:02 Doyak: I did
2017-01-18 18:02 Doyak: I guess we can go with that then
2017-01-18 18:02 Shurelia: yep.
with Mir
2017-01-18 15:49 Mir: Hiya o/
2017-01-18 15:50 Doyak: Yo~
2017-01-18 15:50 Doyak: Maybe I'll call you when I need you
2017-01-18 15:50 Mir: o.o
2017-01-18 15:50 Mir: i have school in 10-15 mins for 9 hours
2017-01-18 15:50 Mir: so xD
2017-01-18 15:51 Doyak: lol
2017-01-18 15:51 Doyak: but this won't end in that short time
2017-01-18 15:51 Mir: damn okay
2017-01-18 15:51 Doyak: I'll just post it on the thread if needed then
2017-01-18 15:51 Mir: gotcha
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: one quick thing?
2017-01-18 15:56 Mir: yep
2017-01-18 15:56 Mir: about snapping? o-o
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: yup
2017-01-18 15:56 Mir: sure
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: this song's snapping is like a hell tbh xD
2017-01-18 15:56 Doyak: 03:10:575 -
2017-01-18 15:57 Doyak: I think they ALL should be in 1/8
2017-01-18 15:57 Doyak: it's more of a consistency
2017-01-18 15:57 Mir: lets see
2017-01-18 15:58 Doyak: There's no way the drummer would play some of them in 1/8 and others in 1/6
2017-01-18 15:58 Doyak: there can be a little error
2017-01-18 15:58 Mir: 03:19:104 (5) - hm
2017-01-18 15:58 Doyak: but it's not an obvious change to 1/6s
2017-01-18 15:58 Mir: idk about this one
2017-01-18 15:58 Mir: that sounds 1/6 to me
2017-01-18 15:58 Doyak: I do feel the last beat and 03:19:398 - has a wider gap
2017-01-18 15:59 Doyak: than the ones before
2017-01-18 15:59 Doyak: 1/6 and 1/8 is
2017-01-18 15:59 Doyak: reaaaaaaally small difference
2017-01-18 15:59 Mir: yeah xD
2017-01-18 15:59 Doyak: but it affects the consistency
2017-01-18 16:00 Mir: yeah true
2017-01-18 16:00 Mir: i thought that the song was doing 1/6
2017-01-18 16:00 Doyak: If you're going to 100% perfect every sounds
2017-01-18 16:00 Doyak: you should use 1/12 and 1/16 snaps too
2017-01-18 16:00 Doyak: and that's still not enough
2017-01-18 16:01 Doyak: but you won't do that because that's bad for gameplay/consistency
2017-01-18 16:01 Mir: yeah
2017-01-18 16:01 Doyak: So just go with full 1/8s
2017-01-18 16:01 Mir: yeah i told shurelia then :3
2017-01-18 16:02 Mir: any other quick things?
2017-01-18 16:02 Doyak: 03:23:810 (1) - also I don't hear a clear drum sound on the end of this
2017-01-18 16:02 Mir: right
2017-01-18 16:02 Doyak: okay there's one more thing I wanted to tell you
2017-01-18 16:03 Doyak: 01:22:339 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
2017-01-18 16:03 Doyak: in this part, some 1/2s have really similar spacing to that of 1/4s
2017-01-18 16:04 Mir: i'll tell shurelia the ones that need to be fixed one sec
2017-01-18 16:04 Doyak: They're quite sudden, and don't have any special indication to that
2017-01-18 16:05 Mir: yeah true
2017-01-18 16:05 Mir: there are only a couple of them so i'll quickly point them out to him
2017-01-18 16:05 Doyak: I don't believe maps should be readable in one's first try, but it's still mostly reasonable to have time-spacing equality rule
2017-01-18 16:06 Mir: right
2017-01-18 16:07 Mir: well im sorry to cut this short but i have to go now ;-;
2017-01-18 16:07 Doyak: ah that's okay
2017-01-18 16:07 Mir: i'll read your forum post later on about the rest :3
2017-01-18 16:07 Doyak: I'll leave the rest on the thread!
2017-01-18 16:07 Mir: Okiedokes o/
Doyak
Let's try!
Topic Starter
Shurelia
Thank you very much.

All of you.
Shiranai
SPOILER
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: Would you like to IRC?
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: (mod)
2017-01-18 15:13 Shurelia: ooh, sure.
2017-01-18 15:14 Shurelia: alright, I'm redy.
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: 00:58:222 (1,2) - I can hear 5 sounds here
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: including 00:58:810 -
2017-01-18 15:15 Shurelia: means there's a sound around 00:58:737 - here?
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: I think it's not a 1/4+1/6 thing
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: more likely be 5 equal beats
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: ooh, means I should change the 1/4 slider into a circles?
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: so idk actually
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: hmm
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: this kind of case sucks
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: probably the current one is already the most fit.
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: since
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: 00:58:222 (1,2) - these two did play well on following the violins.
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: or probably 00:58:810 (1) - is lack of emphasis?
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: Well
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: http://puu.sh/tqg5S/8de44e87a4.png
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: it's like this
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: with the first 5 being in 1 1/1 beat
2017-01-18 15:20 Shurelia: I'm not a musician but I'll try to understand.
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'm not sure what to do in these cases
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'll just ask other BNs
If you're still have doubt with the timing and snap, why rushing to qualified this map? Not everyone on the bng available atm when you asking that matter, also why not make a new topic on beatmap management forum? so even the qat can give their opinion too lol.

For the time being congrats I guess, let's hope for the best!
Topic Starter
Shurelia

Mako Sakata wrote:

SPOILER
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: Would you like to IRC?
2017-01-18 15:13 Doyak: (mod)
2017-01-18 15:13 Shurelia: ooh, sure.
2017-01-18 15:14 Shurelia: alright, I'm redy.
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: 00:58:222 (1,2) - I can hear 5 sounds here
2017-01-18 15:14 Doyak: including 00:58:810 -
2017-01-18 15:15 Shurelia: means there's a sound around 00:58:737 - here?
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: I think it's not a 1/4+1/6 thing
2017-01-18 15:15 Doyak: more likely be 5 equal beats
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: ooh, means I should change the 1/4 slider into a circles?
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: so idk actually
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: hmm
2017-01-18 15:16 Doyak: this kind of case sucks
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: probably the current one is already the most fit.
2017-01-18 15:16 Shurelia: since
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: 00:58:222 (1,2) - these two did play well on following the violins.
2017-01-18 15:17 Shurelia: or probably 00:58:810 (1) - is lack of emphasis?
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: Well
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: http://puu.sh/tqg5S/8de44e87a4.png
2017-01-18 15:19 Doyak: it's like this
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: with the first 5 being in 1 1/1 beat
2017-01-18 15:20 Shurelia: I'm not a musician but I'll try to understand.
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'm not sure what to do in these cases
2017-01-18 15:20 Doyak: I'll just ask other BNs
If you're still have doubt with the timing and snap, why rushing to qualified this map? Not everyone on the bng available atm when you asking that matter, also why not make a new topic on beatmap management forum? so even the qat can give their opinion too lol.

For the time being congrats I guess, let's hope for the best!
We already done that and got some answers that the current thing is already fine.

mean we just gonna undermapping it instead confuse us too much.
Doyak
Yup, we discussed that on a Discord server, and all the participants have agreed to using 1/4s here.
Shiranai
Good to hear then :)
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