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toby fox - Your Best Nightmare/Finale

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Topic Starter
-Keitaro
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, March 12, 2017 at 11:58:24 AM

Artist: toby fox
Title: Your Best Nightmare/Finale
Source: UNDERTALE
Tags: photoshop omega flowey boss fight
BPM: 190
Filesize: 8420kb
Play Time: 05:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. Final (6.18 stars, 1495 notes)
Download: toby fox - Your Best Nightmare/Finale
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one day
tzechi
hihi, saw your mod request on #modreq,
_________________________________
For Final

MAP OPINION

pretty streamy map, but very fun! if slider shapes are improved then this can definitely be rankable

my mods may be unexperienced, but mostly its my opinion!! you dont have to apply them if you want! ^^!

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Final Diff
SPOILER
i think having an ar between 9-10 instead of 9 would be better for this map

Your Best Nightmare
00:26:154 (3,5) - blanket is wrong
00:27:812 (1,2) - blanket is wrong
00:28:128 (2,3,4,5) - weird flow?
00:29:391 (3,4) - blanket is wrong
00:31:602 (1,3) - blanket is wrong
00:40:917 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - the stream goes up, but suddenly the next note is below it. weird flow
00:52:917 (4,5,1) - most of the streams so far have been overlaps and triples, having a sudden spaced stream here can cause misreading
01:02:233 (2,3) - i would recommend some kind of jump here instead of overlaps
01:15:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont think a spaced stream at this timing is a good idea, since mostly its just been overlaps and jumps
01:18:970 (4,5,6) - spacing between 4 to 5 is pretty small but 5 to 6 is pretty big, considering its 1/4
01:20:549 (3,4,5,6,1) - spaced streams at weird timing?
01:37:602 (2,3,4) - 2 can be misread. maybe make it a jump?
01:41:707 (5,6) - overlap
01:42:338 (1,4,5) - overlap
01:44:865 (1,5) - overlap
01:46:444 (3,4) - blanket
01:49:917 (1) - this slider is very easy to break at, since the velocity is so high
01:53:391 (5,6) - blanket
02:00:812 (4,5,6,7) - weird flow
02:01:286 (1,2) - spacing between these is very small, and 1 is easy to misread as 1 beat longer than it is
02:02:549 (1,2) - spacing between these is very small, easy to misread ^
02:03:812 (1,2) - 02:02:549 (1,2) same issue
02:09:338 (2,3) - very obvious blanket problem here
02:15:496 (3,4,1) - making 4 a jump would be much better
02:26:549 (1,2) - blanketing problem. the overlap is fine in this case but the blanket is wrong
02:30:023 (8,9,10,11,1) - spaced stream, but everything else has mostly been just normal overlap streams/triples.
02:43:444 (3,5,6,7,8) - this overlap is fine ,but make sure 5 overlaps perfectly with 3
02:45:496 (1,2) - flow is weird, and 2 is going out of the playfield
02:45:970 (3,4,5,6,7) - the intensity of the song has been fairly high, and i think 6 would be better as a jump
03:04:444 (1) - theres no beat where the reverse is
03:04:444 (1,1) - this too ^
03:20:865 (6) - NC maybe?
03:25:917 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - there is no beat at 2, making this overmapped. 03:20:865 (6,7) was ok since there was an echo in the bg
03:40:444 (4,5) - why the sudden overlap? its fine, but odd
03:57:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - ugly star
03:57:970 (1,2,3,4,5) - ugly star
03:57:181 (1,2) - the stars are mapped to the drum in the background, but these 2 beats are not.

Finale
04:01:049 (1) - offset from this section on is wrong.
04:04:050 (2) - sliderends should be mapped to a sound with the same strength or less than the slider start.
04:12:581 (5) - overmap
04:15:582 (6,7) - slider ends are overmapped
04:26:009 (6,7,8,9,1) - assuming you're mapping to the melody and not the drums this is overmapped
04:40:227 (3,4) - why the weird slider shape?
04:43:703 (6,1) - this could blanket better
04:46:546 (1,2) - blanket
04:47:968 (6) - what sound are you mapping to?
04:56:657 (1) - the high slider velocity makes it very easy to break here
04:59:184 (1,2,3,4) - this section has extremely low intensity compared to the rest of the level. consider making the spacing lower
05:01:712 (1,2) - weird flow
05:06:451 (3,4,5,6,1) - assuming you're mapping to melody, this is overmapped
05:08:505 (3,4) - weird overlap thing? this could be just your mapping choice so do what you will with this overlap
05:17:510 (3,4,5,6) - possible overmap?
05:34:571 (8,1) - weird flow
05:44:761 (1) - kiai time doesnt end along with this spinner
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Pencil-kun wrote:

hihi, saw your mod request on #modreq,
_________________________________
For Final

MAP OPINION

pretty streamy map, but very fun! if slider shapes are improved then this can definitely be rankable

my mods may be unexperienced, but mostly its my opinion!! you dont have to apply them if you want! ^^!
It's ok :)
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Final Diff
SPOILER
i think having an ar between 9-10 instead of 9 would be better for this map

Your Best Nightmare
00:26:154 (3,5) - blanket is wrong
00:27:812 (1,2) - blanket is wrong Nah, it's good.
00:28:128 (2,3,4,5) - weird flow? Maybe no, it just feells weird becouse of the curving slider.
00:29:391 (3,4) - blanket is wrong OK, making it more seems like to blanket.
00:31:602 (1,3) - blanket is wrong
00:40:917 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - the stream goes up, but suddenly the next note is below it. weird flow Move some notes so the 00:40:917 (2,9) - can be used as a bit blanked
00:52:917 (4,5,1) - most of the streams so far have been overlaps and triples, having a sudden spaced stream here can cause misreading OK, removed 00:52:917 (5) -
01:02:233 (2,3) - i would recommend some kind of jump here instead of overlaps I have no idea how to jump at that part
01:15:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - i dont think a spaced stream at this timing is a good idea, since mostly its just been overlaps and jumps Hmm, ok.
01:18:970 (4,5,6) - spacing between 4 to 5 is pretty small but 5 to 6 is pretty big, considering its 1/4 Removed (5)
01:20:549 (3,4,5,6,1) - spaced streams at weird timing? Revert to normal stream
01:37:602 (2,3,4) - 2 can be misread. maybe make it a jump? k
01:41:707 (5,6) - overlap Moved (6)
01:42:338 (1,4,5) - overlap No, looks fine
01:44:865 (1,5) - overlap ^
01:46:444 (3,4) - blanket Isn't it already blanket?
01:49:917 (1) - this slider is very easy to break at, since the velocity is so high No, it just a simple slider, the velocity are still the same
01:53:391 (5,6) - blanket Isn't it already blanket?
02:00:812 (4,5,6,7) - weird flow It's normal
02:01:286 (1,2) - spacing between these is very small, and 1 is easy to misread as 1 beat longer than it is No, it's fine
02:02:549 (1,2) - spacing between these is very small, easy to misread ^ ^
02:03:812 (1,2) - 02:02:549 (1,2) same issue ^
02:09:338 (2,3) - very obvious blanket problem here Fixed
02:15:496 (3,4,1) - making 4 a jump would be much better I only move 4 a little bit
02:26:549 (1,2) - blanketing problem. the overlap is fine in this case but the blanket is wrong Fixed
02:30:023 (8,9,10,11,1) - spaced stream, but everything else has mostly been just normal overlap streams/triples. Fixed
02:43:444 (3,5,6,7,8) - this overlap is fine ,but make sure 5 overlaps perfectly with 3 Fixed
02:45:496 (1,2) - flow is weird, and 2 is going out of the playfield OK, making it blanked
02:45:970 (3,4,5,6,7) - the intensity of the song has been fairly high, and i think 6 would be better as a jump k
03:04:444 (1) - theres no beat where the reverse is I didn't wanna waste the playground just for 1 1/2 slider, 3/4 + reverse is much better for me, and the sound seems good for 3/4
03:04:444 (1,1) - this too ^ ^
03:20:865 (6) - NC maybe? k
03:25:917 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - there is no beat at 2, making this overmapped. 03:20:865 (6,7) was ok since there was an echo in the bg ^
03:40:444 (4,5) - why the sudden overlap? its fine, but odd maybe no, it fits with the song
03:57:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - ugly star Changed to squares
03:57:970 (1,2,3,4,5) - ugly star ^
03:57:181 (1,2) - the stars are mapped to the drum in the background, but these 2 beats are not. fixed

Finale
04:01:049 (1) - offset from this section on is wrong. It's clearly fine!
04:04:050 (2) - sliderends should be mapped to a sound with the same strength or less than the slider start. nah, it just fine, making it more playable instead of using circles
04:12:581 (5) - overmap Fixed
04:15:582 (6,7) - slider ends are overmapped No, it's good for some reason
04:26:009 (6,7,8,9,1) - assuming you're mapping to the melody and not the drums this is overmapped I map both of melody and drums if you listen more carefully.
04:40:227 (3,4) - why the weird slider shape? For some reason, one of them are to save some space in the playground
04:43:703 (6,1) - this could blanket better moved sliderend on 6
04:46:546 (1,2) - blanket Fixed
04:47:968 (6) - what sound are you mapping to? Fixed, i didn't notice this before
04:56:657 (1) - the high slider velocity makes it very easy to break here it's still the same velocity you know, just the shape of the slider. try check out Kikoku Doukoku Jigokuraku
04:59:184 (1,2,3,4) - this section has extremely low intensity compared to the rest of the level. consider making the spacing lower The spacing already very low for that part :/
05:01:712 (1,2) - weird flow Thats fine, there are so many beatmaps with that flow
05:06:451 (3,4,5,6,1) - assuming you're mapping to melody, this is overmapped I map both of melody and drums if you listen more carefully.
05:08:505 (3,4) - weird overlap thing? this could be just your mapping choice so do what you will with this overlap It's my style to do this, and i moved the slider a little bit so that didn't overlap other slider.
05:17:510 (3,4,5,6) - possible overmap?
05:34:571 (8,1) - weird flow As i was say in the top.
05:44:761 (1) - kiai time doesnt end along with this spinner k


OMG very helpful! Thanks! (rejected marks with red color)
tzechi
hihi, dont mind me, but just gonna correct the little offset error in the finale section ^^

while its kind of unnoticable if you slow it down, the timing error is definitely noticable, and the bpm at that section has been set to 189.900, which is weird since its very rare theres a decimal in the bpm. the bpm is wrong basically

Finale BPM Fix

SPOILER
BPM : 190.000 [very rarely will there be songs with decimals in the bpm, unless its something like a song which slowly increases in bpm]
Offset : 241084

theres also a 0.75x inherited slider velocity timing point, which you may want to set the offset to 241084 as well.

hope this helps!!!
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Pencil-kun wrote:

hihi, dont mind me, but just gonna correct the little offset error in the finale section ^^

while its kind of unnoticable if you slow it down, the timing error is definitely noticable, and the bpm at that section has been set to 189.900, which is weird since its very rare theres a decimal in the bpm. the bpm is wrong basically

Finale BPM Fix

SPOILER
BPM : 190.000 [very rarely will there be songs with decimals in the bpm, unless its something like a song which slowly increases in bpm]
Offset : 241084

theres also a 0.75x inherited slider velocity timing point, which you may want to set the offset to 241084 as well.

hope this helps!!!
Hell no.
190BPM make it offbeat when the fade out in the end. 189.9 is fit with the all of finale. :)
tzechi
try this fix at least?

http://puu.sh/sYiI2.osu <-- difficulty
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Pencil-kun wrote:

hihi, dont mind me, but just gonna correct the little offset error in the finale section ^^

while its kind of unnoticable if you slow it down, the timing error is definitely noticable, and the bpm at that section has been set to 189.900, which is weird since its very rare theres a decimal in the bpm. the bpm is wrong basically

Finale BPM Fix

SPOILER
BPM : 190.000 [very rarely will there be songs with decimals in the bpm, unless its something like a song which slowly increases in bpm]
Offset : 241084

theres also a 0.75x inherited slider velocity timing point, which you may want to set the offset to 241084 as well.

hope this helps!!!
Hmm, trying it, and fits with the song, well, Thanks~
Violet-Fox
00:26:075 (2,4) - dont hear anything from the song for these to fit
00:54:575 (2,5,7,2,4,6) - ^
01:10:760 (1,2,3,4) - as cool as these look, maybe replace with 1/2 jumps?
03:13:917 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this is a very random difficulty spike, try to keep the spacing the same as the ones just before
the sv doesnt really fit in for the first kiai as the song hasnt finished picking up until the second kiai

also multi song maps usually have a "/" instead of an "&", so it would be "Your Best Nightmare/Finale"

the map is really cool!
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Violet-Fox wrote:

00:26:075 (2,4) - dont hear anything from the song for these to fit if you listen VERY CLOSELY, there is a drum have that beat
00:54:575 (2,5,7,2,4,6) - ^ even i hear some drum beat too, but it have very low vol, so, ok, removed.
01:10:760 (1,2,3,4) - as cool as these look, maybe replace with 1/2 jumps?
03:13:917 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - this is a very random difficulty spike, try to keep the spacing the same as the ones just before It's fine, making the same spacing will make it very weird
the sv doesnt really fit in for the first kiai as the song hasnt finished picking up until the second kiai nah, it'sa bit faster than the other part, so just let it be.

also multi song maps usually have a "/" instead of an "&", so it would be "Your Best Nightmare/Finale" Fixed.

the map is really cool!
thanks for the mod!
MGM
00:29:628 (4) - better move this to the start of the next slider
01:03:654 (7,8,1) - looks too overmapped, make them closer
01:46:365 (2) - maybe remove this circle?
01:52:681 (2) - same
02:06:260 (8,1) - make this jump smaller
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

max9147 wrote:

00:29:628 (4) - better move this to the start of the next slider nah, there is already a blanket for it, and looks better for me.
01:03:654 (7,8,1) - looks too overmapped, make them closer the SV is kinda fast, so i made the circles more jumpy
01:46:365 (2) - maybe remove this circle? There is a drum sound here
01:52:681 (2) - same ^
02:06:260 (8,1) - make this jump smaller OK
Thanks for the mod!
Louis Cyphre
[General]

- you totally need custom hitsounds, the normal ones do not fit at all
- your last kiai section never ends.
- why "photoshop" is in tags?
- why don't you use those colors that are seen near the flower?
- silence sliderslide sound by adding mute .wav file named "soft-sliderslide"


[Final]

00:24:181 - remove finish sound at the end of the slider
00:28:760 (6) - the second repeat is absolutely unexpected, consider to convert slider into something else
00:34:128 (1) - this slider is really crooked. Fix the shape
00:29:865 (6) - the only 1/2 slider in this part. I recommend to use previous way of patterns.
00:36:338 (6,7,8,9,1) - why did you change the logic and added just a straight stream?
00:40:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nah, this feels so random? What did push you to make it like that?
00:42:654 (8) - again double reverse
00:43:917 (7,8,9) - triple instead of slider as it was before.
00:49:128 (9,10,11,12) - why did you use so many finish sounds
00:51:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ^
00:56:549 (4) - adjust the blanket
00:57:812 (1) - again unexpected double reverse
Slider velocity is way too high for such part, doesn't fit at all. Same about spacing.
01:29:707 (1) - crooked shap, fix it.
01:40:760 (6) - hidden slider reverse
01:41:707 (5) - awkward overlap with '3' and fix blanket to follow '4'
01:42:812 (4) - ^ blanket with '5', overlap with '1'
01:43:760 (1) - blanket with '8'
01:44:865 (1) - crooked shape
01:49:917 (1) - no way, this can done much and much better
01:53:075 (4) - fix blanet with '2' (not going to mention blanket stuff, they are really really much)
02:00:812 (4,5,6) - the spacing is consistent. Also there is no point to use wide streams since it doesn't differ from previous triples
02:11:312 (4,1) - spacing is inconsistent
02:17:075 (3) - awkward overlap with '2'
02:49:365 (1) - silence spinners end.
03:04:444 (1,1) - there are no such musical patterns in tack to use such way of rhythm.
03:27:181 (1) - 1 grid to right
04:02:978 (6) - awkward overlap with previous slider (not going to mention overlaps anymore)
04:27:610 (6) - crooked shape, fix it. (not going to mention crooked stuff anymore)

good luck




00:53:154 (1) - spinner must has new combo
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Louis Cyphre wrote:

[General]

- you totally need custom hitsounds, the normal ones do not fit at all I have no idea about custom sound, i'm going to ask somebody else..
- your last kiai section never ends. Fixed
- why "photoshop" is in tags? *UNDERTALE SPOILER ALERT* The name of the flower is flowey, when you reach the end of neutral route, you will fight it. and the name according to fandom is photoshop or omega flowey.
- why don't you use those colors that are seen near the flower? OK
- silence sliderslide sound by adding mute .wav file named "soft-sliderslide" OK


[Final]

00:24:181 - remove finish sound at the end of the slider Fixed
00:28:760 (6) - the second repeat is absolutely unexpected, consider to convert slider into something else Changed to stream
00:34:128 (1) - this slider is really crooked. Fix the shape do something else.
00:29:865 (6) - the only 1/2 slider in this part. I recommend to use previous way of patterns. anh, i think it's fine
00:36:338 (6,7,8,9,1) - why did you change the logic and added just a straight stream? convert (1) to slider
00:40:444 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - nah, this feels so random? What did push you to make it like that? well, (1) slider is blanket-ing 00:40:128 (7) - , and 00:40:917 (2,3,4,5,6) - have 00:41:549 (9) - this blanket
00:42:654 (8) - again double reverse convert to stream again
00:43:917 (7,8,9) - triple instead of slider as it was before. Do you mean a slider, and a circle, if that is your point, ok i'll do it.
00:49:128 (9,10,11,12) - why did you use so many finish sounds changed to clap
00:51:812 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ^ it's more fit, becouse it's the end of that part.
00:56:549 (4) - adjust the blanket fixed
00:57:812 (1) - again unexpected double reverse converted to stream
Slider velocity is way too high for such part, doesn't fit at all. Same about spacing. nah, it's kinda a choke or something, still kinda fits, coz in the other parts, that have the same SV and spacing.
01:29:707 (1) - crooked shap, fix it. fixed
01:40:760 (6) - hidden slider reverse it's not really hidden, just stacked with other slider. maybe change that if others have the same issue
01:41:707 (5) - awkward overlap with '3' and fix blanket to follow '4' not really get what you mean, but fixed (4) blanket
01:42:812 (4) - ^ blanket with '5', overlap with '1' this one is kinda hard for me, but fixed
01:43:760 (1) - blanket with '8' wait, isn't that already blanket?
01:44:865 (1) - crooked shape fixed
01:49:917 (1) - no way, this can done much and much better lol but changed that long slider to stream-ish with the bg sound
01:53:075 (4) - fix blanet with '2' (not going to mention blanket stuff, they are really really much) Fixed (ok then i'll try to fix when i found it :p)
02:00:812 (4,5,6) - the spacing is consistent. Also there is no point to use wide streams since it doesn't differ from previous triples ok.
02:11:312 (4,1) - spacing is inconsistent removed 02:10:681 (2) - to make it more consistent.
02:17:075 (3) - awkward overlap with '2' i didn't get whats wrong with this, but do something.
02:49:365 (1) - silence spinners end. Lowered the audio
03:04:444 (1,1) - there are no such musical patterns in tack to use such way of rhythm. errgh, idk why people are have issue with this, i'll try to make it more save space and make it more simple, but that slider is kinda have the beat.
03:27:181 (1) - 1 grid to right lol fixed
04:02:978 (6) - awkward overlap with previous slider (not going to mention overlaps anymore) i ddin't really sure what are you going to say.. i didn't know whether i need to stack, or just move a bit right, but i moved it a bit right
04:27:610 (6) - crooked shape, fix it. (not going to mention crooked stuff anymore) not really crooked, throught, but kinda make it more smoother.

good luck




00:53:154 (1) - spinner must has new comboFixed

Thanks for the mod!
Fragmented
heyy, i saw you on #modreq and i stalked you too :3 ALSO, take note that these are just some suggestions that you may wanna change but its your choice to change it or nah ;)

Here comes the mod!
[General]
  1. IMO, slider SV is too high even for this very intense song, but if you still think its okay then ignore this
  2. You have very unique slider arts in this which is kinda cool but not really aesthetically nice to see to the eye
[Your Best Nightmare]
  1. 00:28:760 (6,7,8,9) - Structure of stream can be improved
  2. 00:29:628 (4) - Spacing can be improved here as well....
  3. 00:43:523 (4,5,6,7,8) - Circle (8) placing is weird since the spacing was not the same from the previous sliders and circles, move (8) further away from (7)
  4. 00:57:812 (3,4,5,6) - Remove (6), no distinctive sound/beat here, the remaining stream is fine
  5. 00:59:075 (3,4,5) - Spacing between (4) and (5) can be improved
  6. 01:03:654 (7,8,1) - Spaced stream? this looks a bit out of a sudden though....
  7. 01:08:707 (2,3) - we wouldn't know that (3) is immediately after slider (2), theres a high chance of people breaking there since (3) is overlapped by slider (1)
  8. 01:09:181 (5,6,7,8,1) - Remove (8), no distinctive sound/beat here
  9. 01:12:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above ^, remove (4)
  10. 01:15:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  11. 01:20:075 (8,9,1) - ^, remove (9), theres no triple here
  12. 01:20:549 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^, remove (6)
  13. 01:23:391 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - I like this slider art :3 but remove (11), no sound/beat here
  14. 01:52:128 (5,6,7,8) - Sliderends can be improved?
  15. 02:35:391 (1,2) - Spacing can be improved
  16. 02:37:917 (2,3,4,5,6,10) - I see what you did there, I like the idea lol but spacing of (2) and (10) can be improved
  17. 02:40:128 (6,7,8,9,1,5) - Stream structure can be improved and why not overlap slider (5) with the previous circle (1) since its already overlapping each other?
  18. 02:48:970 (6,7,8,9,1) - Move (6) to the right just a little bit and move (1) to the bottom a little bit so it looks more like a straight stream!
  19. 03:16:917 (2,2,3,4) - You could overlap circle (2) to the stream (2,3,4) to make it look more nicer
  20. 03:44:075 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - This spaced stream section is totally out of place, change this....
Thats it for Your Best Nightmare!

Time for the Finale! no pun intended

[Finale]
  1. 04:01:049 (1) - Move (1) to 04:01:084 , it is not to the beat
  2. 04:26:031 (6,7,8,9,1) - Remove (9), no distinctive sound/beat here
  3. 04:33:847 (6) - ^, remove (6)
  4. 04:38:662 (12,13,1) - Sudden spaced stream out of nowhere, players wont know this...
  5. 04:56:505 (8,9,1) - ^
  6. 05:07:636 (4) - Remove (4), no distinctive sound/beat here
  7. 05:37:083 (1,2,3) - This is a very big jump for a spaced stream, fix this...
  8. 05:38:662 (3,4) - ^
  9. 05:40:873 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Why isn't there a stream here ;-; you should replace the doubles with a full stream to fit into the beat...
That is all! Good luck in ranking this! :D
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

CharmCaster wrote:

heyy, i saw you on #modreq and i stalked you too :3 ALSO, take note that these are just some suggestions that you may wanna change but its your choice to change it or nah ;) fuk u for stalk me :p

Here comes the mod!
[General]
  1. IMO, slider SV is too high even for this very intense song, but if you still think its okay then ignore this It's ok, the slider is as fast as lightning ;) wtf bad pun
  2. You have very unique slider arts in this which is kinda cool but not really aesthetically nice to see to the eye maybe change a bit for some sliders.
[Your Best Nightmare]
  1. 00:28:760 (6,7,8,9) - Structure of stream can be improved Moving a bit, so kinda make it curved
  2. 00:29:628 (4) - Spacing can be improved here as well.... Well, the circle has blanket.
  3. 00:43:523 (4,5,6,7,8) - Circle (8) placing is weird since the spacing was not the same from the previous sliders and circles, move (8) further away from (7) Do something else
  4. 00:57:812 (3,4,5,6) - Remove (6), no distinctive sound/beat here, the remaining stream is fine ok, but moved the three circle to prevent missreading.
  5. 00:59:075 (3,4,5) - Spacing between (4) and (5) can be improved Fixed
  6. 01:03:654 (7,8,1) - Spaced stream? this looks a bit out of a sudden though.... Fixed
  7. 01:08:707 (2,3) - we wouldn't know that (3) is immediately after slider (2), theres a high chance of people breaking there since (3) is overlapped by slider (1) Fixed
  8. 01:09:181 (5,6,7,8,1) - Remove (8), no distinctive sound/beat here ok, but moved the last circle to prevent missreading.
  9. 01:12:654 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same as above ^, remove (4) ok, but moved the last circle to prevent missreading.
  10. 01:15:181 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ ^
  11. 01:20:075 (8,9,1) - ^, remove (9), theres no triple here nah
  12. 01:20:549 (3,4,5,6,1) - ^, remove (6) ok, but moved the last circle to prevent missreading.
  13. 01:23:391 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - I like this slider art :3 but remove (11), no sound/beat here Aww, thanks :3 but there is a sound, play it with 50%
  14. 01:52:128 (5,6,7,8) - Sliderends can be improved? idk how to improve this lol
  15. 02:35:391 (1,2) - Spacing can be improved nah
  16. 02:37:917 (2,3,4,5,6,10) - I see what you did there, I like the idea lol but spacing of (2) and (10) can be improved i didn't get this .-.
  17. 02:40:128 (6,7,8,9,1,5) - Stream structure can be improved and why not overlap slider (5) with the previous circle (1) since its already overlapping each other? nah, it's fine, kinda make it like 1/2 spacing (or something like that)
  18. 02:48:970 (6,7,8,9,1) - Move (6) to the right just a little bit and move (1) to the bottom a little bit so it looks more like a straight stream! lol, right :3 fixed.
  19. 03:16:917 (2,2,3,4) - You could overlap circle (2) to the stream (2,3,4) to make it look more nicer Fixed
  20. 03:44:075 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3) - This spaced stream section is totally out of place, change this.... I think i need to higher the AR,it looks weird with AR 9
Thats it for Your Best Nightmare!

Time for the Finale! no pun intended

[Finale]
  1. 04:01:049 (1) - Move (1) to 04:01:084 , it is not to the beat Fixed, i didn't notice this
  2. 04:26:031 (6,7,8,9,1) - Remove (9), no distinctive sound/beat here fixed
  3. 04:33:847 (6) - ^, remove (6) nah, listen clearly.
  4. 04:38:662 (12,13,1) - Sudden spaced stream out of nowhere, players wont know this... moved a bit, so looks shorter.
  5. 04:56:505 (8,9,1) - ^ fixed
  6. 05:07:636 (4) - Remove (4), no distinctive sound/beat here Listen clearly, there is a sound
  7. 05:37:083 (1,2,3) - This is a very big jump for a spaced stream, fix this... fixed
  8. 05:38:662 (3,4) - ^ fixed
  9. 05:40:873 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Why isn't there a stream here ;-; you should replace the doubles with a full stream to fit into the beat... it already fit with the beat lol
That is all! Good luck in ranking this! :D Thanks!
Thanks for the mod!
AR changed to 9.5 due to some stacking errors.
Topic Starter
-Keitaro
oh! one more thing to people, if you think the slider kinda weird, please see this beatmap!
i know i should not compare myself with HW ;-;
ayomikasa
random irc mod :3
14.59 Rendyindo: Hey, ane online di client sekarang :3
14.59 ayomikasa: :3
14.59 ayomikasa: bentar ya
15.01 *ayomikasa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088302 toby fox - Your Best Nightmare/Finale [Final]]
15.02 ayomikasa: 00:53:075 (1) - yang ini mending dihapus, karena disini suara berkepanjangan
15.03 ayomikasa: spinner nya tarik ke detik ini tapi akhiran nya tetep sama
15.03 Rendyindo: done.
15.04 ayomikasa: 01:05:075 (1,2,3) - mendingan ini note 1 - 3 semuanya circles
15.04 ayomikasa: ga ada suara yang mendukung buat jadi ini
15.04 Rendyindo: nope, nanti dibilang overmap :/
15.04 Rendyindo: soalnya itu jga udah jadi pattern..
15.04 ayomikasa: :\ ok, bentar aku cari lagi
15.05 ayomikasa: 01:12:733 (2) - ini juga
15.05 ayomikasa: mending hapus
15.05 ayomikasa: terus yang note sebelah kanan diubah letaknya
15.06 Rendyindo: ok, ane ubah jadi jump :3
15.06 ayomikasa: oke
15.09 ayomikasa: 01:54:970 (1) - ini ganti spinner aja
15.09 ayomikasa: rasanya kayak kurang nyambung gitu
15.09 Rendyindo: ok, fixed
15.12 ayomikasa: 03:04:444 (1,1) -
15.12 ayomikasa: slider nya lebih enak dibuat kayak [http://puu.sh/t6B9n/9ecd745ce7.jpg gini] imo
15.14 Rendyindo: yang ini ane pikir pikir dlu..
15.14 Rendyindo: noted.
15.14 ayomikasa: 03:09:496 (3,4) - yang ini jg ya kalo diterima yang atas
15.15 Rendyindo: ok
15.17 ayomikasa: 03:46:917 (5) - ... wtf
15.17 ayomikasa: masa abis slider jauh langsung strim, keknya itu unrankable deh
15.17 Rendyindo: wkwk, fixed.
15.17 ayomikasa: kalo mau dibalik slider nya, end nya yang nyambung sama strim
15.18 Rendyindo: ok
15.18 ayomikasa: gile spaced stream
15.18 Rendyindo: mungkin dlu waktu ngemap pertama, ane kepencet CTRL+G :3
15.18 ayomikasa: mungkin wkwk
15.18 ayomikasa: 03:58:760 (1) -
15.18 ayomikasa: hapus terus tarik slider nya (2)
15.19 ayomikasa: *spinner
15.19 Rendyindo: i know :3
15.19 Rendyindo: fixed
15.19 ayomikasa: :3
15.19 Rendyindo: ini mod udah "worth" buat kudosu sih
15.19 Rendyindo: *lumayan buat nambah SP di beatmap :3
15.19 ayomikasa: kalo mau kudos sih gapapa wkwk
15.20 ayomikasa: nanti aku savelog hasil ini
15.20 Rendyindo: nanti post aja di thread chatnya :3
15.20 ayomikasa: ok :3
15.22 ayomikasa: 05:44:741 (1) - ini apus
15.22 ayomikasa: panjangin aja spinner yang pertama
15.22 ayomikasa: sampe end spinner ini
15.23 Rendyindo: imo, bbrp BM jga lakuin hal yang sama kalo lagunya ngefade..
15.23 Rendyindo: jadi tak ikutin aja
15.23 ayomikasa: oke
15.24 Rendyindo: referensinya sih..
15.24 *Rendyindo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/940378 DM DOKURO - Reality Check Through The Skull]
15.24 ayomikasa: ya, sy jarang liat map std sih wkwk
15.24 ayomikasa: ini aja mod std pertama wkwk
15.24 Rendyindo: wkwk, gapapa, ini udah worth kok :3
15.24 ayomikasa: :3 ini ku pasang di thread mu ya
15.24 Rendyindo: ok :3

wkwkwk
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

ayomikasa wrote:

random irc mod :3
14.59 Rendyindo: Hey, ane online di client sekarang :3
14.59 ayomikasa: :3
14.59 ayomikasa: bentar ya
15.01 *ayomikasa is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1088302 toby fox - Your Best Nightmare/Finale [Final]]
15.02 ayomikasa: 00:53:075 (1) - yang ini mending dihapus, karena disini suara berkepanjangan
15.03 ayomikasa: spinner nya tarik ke detik ini tapi akhiran nya tetep sama
15.03 Rendyindo: done.
15.04 ayomikasa: 01:05:075 (1,2,3) - mendingan ini note 1 - 3 semuanya circles
15.04 ayomikasa: ga ada suara yang mendukung buat jadi ini
15.04 Rendyindo: nope, nanti dibilang overmap :/
15.04 Rendyindo: soalnya itu jga udah jadi pattern..
15.04 ayomikasa: :\ ok, bentar aku cari lagi
15.05 ayomikasa: 01:12:733 (2) - ini juga
15.05 ayomikasa: mending hapus
15.05 ayomikasa: terus yang note sebelah kanan diubah letaknya
15.06 Rendyindo: ok, ane ubah jadi jump :3
15.06 ayomikasa: oke
15.09 ayomikasa: 01:54:970 (1) - ini ganti spinner aja
15.09 ayomikasa: rasanya kayak kurang nyambung gitu
15.09 Rendyindo: ok, fixed
15.12 ayomikasa: 03:04:444 (1,1) -
15.12 ayomikasa: slider nya lebih enak dibuat kayak [http://puu.sh/t6B9n/9ecd745ce7.jpg gini] imo
15.14 Rendyindo: yang ini ane pikir pikir dlu..
15.14 Rendyindo: noted.
15.14 ayomikasa: 03:09:496 (3,4) - yang ini jg ya kalo diterima yang atas
15.15 Rendyindo: ok
15.17 ayomikasa: 03:46:917 (5) - ... wtf
15.17 ayomikasa: masa abis slider jauh langsung strim, keknya itu unrankable deh
15.17 Rendyindo: wkwk, fixed.
15.17 ayomikasa: kalo mau dibalik slider nya, end nya yang nyambung sama strim
15.18 Rendyindo: ok
15.18 ayomikasa: gile spaced stream
15.18 Rendyindo: mungkin dlu waktu ngemap pertama, ane kepencet CTRL+G :3
15.18 ayomikasa: mungkin wkwk
15.18 ayomikasa: 03:58:760 (1) -
15.18 ayomikasa: hapus terus tarik slider nya (2)
15.19 ayomikasa: *spinner
15.19 Rendyindo: i know :3
15.19 Rendyindo: fixed
15.19 ayomikasa: :3
15.19 Rendyindo: ini mod udah "worth" buat kudosu sih
15.19 Rendyindo: *lumayan buat nambah SP di beatmap :3
15.19 ayomikasa: kalo mau kudos sih gapapa wkwk
15.20 ayomikasa: nanti aku savelog hasil ini
15.20 Rendyindo: nanti post aja di thread chatnya :3
15.20 ayomikasa: ok :3
15.22 ayomikasa: 05:44:741 (1) - ini apus
15.22 ayomikasa: panjangin aja spinner yang pertama
15.22 ayomikasa: sampe end spinner ini
15.23 Rendyindo: imo, bbrp BM jga lakuin hal yang sama kalo lagunya ngefade..
15.23 Rendyindo: jadi tak ikutin aja
15.23 ayomikasa: oke
15.24 Rendyindo: referensinya sih..
15.24 *Rendyindo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/940378 DM DOKURO - Reality Check Through The Skull]
15.24 ayomikasa: ya, sy jarang liat map std sih wkwk
15.24 ayomikasa: ini aja mod std pertama wkwk
15.24 Rendyindo: wkwk, gapapa, ini udah worth kok :3
15.24 ayomikasa: :3 ini ku pasang di thread mu ya
15.24 Rendyindo: ok :3

wkwkwk lol
Thanks for the mod~
Weber
HI

Final

- Disable countdown

- Personally I think that a ton of the sliders throughout the difficulty need work:
00:45:023 (6) -
00:56:549 (4) -
01:02:865 (5,6) -
01:04:444 (1) -
01:11:391 (3,4) -
01:22:444 (5) - (blanket)
02:02:549 (1,2) -
02:05:075 (6) -
02:11:312 (3,1) -
02:27:181 (2) -

00:29:628 (4,5,6) - Flow is super janky here

01:20:391 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^

03:03:812 (4,6) - Note hiding under the end of the slider is almost unreadable

03:20:865 (1,2) - These should probably be normal sliders as theres no real sound on the repeat

03:44:628 (8,9,10,1,2,3) - Again, super wonky flow

I dunno, there are a lot of questionable design choices regarding slider shape/placement that you might want to get a second opinion on sooner rather than later.

GL though
Topic Starter
-Keitaro
updated
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Weber wrote:

HI

Final

- Disable countdown Fixed

- Personally I think that a ton of the sliders throughout the difficulty need work:
00:45:023 (6) - idk what should i do. but if you see it, it is kinda make a mirror, for 00:44:549 (3) -
00:56:549 (4) - It is blanket with 00:56:233 (3) - so, what should i do?
01:02:865 (5,6) - (5) is follow up the flow of (6) slider. and end of (6) stacked up with 01:02:549 (4) - beggining.
01:04:444 (1) - Do a bit modification
01:11:391 (3,4) - There is a bit blanket..
01:22:444 (5) - (blanket) hmm, please be more specify..
02:02:549 (1,2) - (2) is following (1) slider flow
02:05:075 (6) - Do something
02:11:312 (3,1) - (3) is following (1), couse (1) is stacked with 02:10:128 (1) -
02:27:181 (2) - and again, it's about blanketing, the slider looks fine, but i might gonna made it more smooth (if you can't see the blanket, see here

00:29:628 (4,5,6) - Flow is super janky here Changed the structure.

01:20:391 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ nah, the 01:20:865 (1,2,3) - is kinda try to make a not perfect triangle, or an arrow. 01:21:338 (4) - is stacked with 01:21:338 (4) - and 01:21:496 (5,6) - is blanketing each other

03:03:812 (4,6) - Note hiding under the end of the slider is almost unreadable k, fixed

03:20:865 (1,2) - These should probably be normal sliders as theres no real sound on the repeat There is, lol listen carefully.

03:44:628 (8,9,10,1,2,3) - Again, super wonky flow It's a bit trying to half jumped stream, due to some patterns that i use with jump stream, but it seems to be ok, couse that isn't too long for a jump stream with this half chill song

I dunno, there are a lot of questionable design choices regarding slider shape/placement that you might want to get a second opinion on sooner rather than later.

GL though Thanks!
Thanks for the mod.
uhm.. maybe you want to do a remod, which specify your issue?

Whoops, double posting, idk why the forum does it.
Buster
Hi your from my mod queue so im gonna mod your map

Final
00:52:444 (1,2,3,4) Move these notes a bit lower
01:09:496 Add Spinner
01:13:286 (1) Move slider to x:328 y:216
01:39:812 (1) Move slider to x:220 y:312
01:51:023 (8) Add distance snap
02:11:391 Add Spinner
02:27:812 Add Spinner
02:36:023 Move circle to x:328 y:120
03:10:760 Add spinner
03:27:181 Add spinner
04:09:610 Move Notes to x:56 y:148
04:58:084 Add distance snap
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Lolinator2000 wrote:

Hi your from my mod queue so im gonna mod your map

Final
00:52:444 (1,2,3,4) Move these notes a bit lower OK
01:09:496 Add Spinner ^
01:13:286 (1) Move slider to x:328 y:216 ^
01:39:812 (1) Move slider to x:220 y:312 Nah, the end of slider is stacked with 01:39:181 (4) -
01:51:023 (8) Add distance snap Do something instead of DS
02:11:391 Add Spinner OK
02:27:812 Add Spinner OK
02:36:023 Move circle to x:328 y:120 x:328 y:124 is better
03:10:760 Add spinner OK
03:27:181 Add spinner OK
04:09:610 Move Notes to x:56 y:148 nah, i use DS in this part
04:58:084 Add distance snap nope.
Thanks for the mod~
Pachiru
  1. 00:25:917 (1,2,3,4,5) - That part feel weird, since two slider go in a way, and the third one is going on the other way, so please consider changing that, like changing the flow of this move. Do something like "bottom-up-bottom"
  2. 00:28:128 (2,3,4,5) - The flow here is quite questionnable, put the stream in an horizontal view.
  3. 00:50:865 (3,6) - Blanket here
  4. 01:02:865 (5,6) - Fix the blanket too here!
  5. 01:24:023 (5,6) - Why those two are in reverse, but not the others?
  6. 01:35:470 (5,6) - Fix distance snap here, it's not balanced, and there is no reason to increase the spacing
  7. 02:02:549 (1,2) - At least try to change the curb of this slider, to make it equals...
  8. 03:43:286 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Good luck to read that easily. At least do a CTRL+G
  9. 04:03:610 (1,2) - Give it the same shape for both!
  10. 04:20:662 (9) - Blanket with this note 04:20:347 (8) -
  11. 04:23:189 (8) - Blanket too
  12. 05:17:505 (3,4,5,6,7) - This is anti-flow! Ctrl+G the 5+6
  13. That's all for me, I think the end is pretty cool, but the begining needs a lot of rework about flow/aesthetics stuffs. Good luck for it, you have potential!! :3
Topic Starter
-Keitaro

Pachiru wrote:

  1. 00:25:917 (1,2,3,4,5) - That part feel weird, since two slider go in a way, and the third one is going on the other way, so please consider changing that, like changing the flow of this move. Do something like "bottom-up-bottom" ok, fixed
  2. 00:28:128 (2,3,4,5) - The flow here is quite questionnable, put the stream in an horizontal view. ^
  3. 00:50:865 (3,6) - Blanket here ^
  4. 01:02:865 (5,6) - Fix the blanket too here! ^
  5. 01:24:023 (5,6) - Why those two are in reverse, but not the others? First of all, saving more space, secondly, it is pretty jumpy, if didn't put any reverse, the player may confused with the beat.
  6. 01:35:470 (5,6) - Fix distance snap here, it's not balanced, and there is no reason to increase the spacing moved a bit
  7. 02:02:549 (1,2) - At least try to change the curb of this slider, to make it equals... ok, fixed
  8. 03:43:286 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Good luck to read that easily. At least do a CTRL+G Nope, its pretty easy to read.
  9. 04:03:610 (1,2) - Give it the same shape for both! ok, fixed
  10. 04:20:662 (9) - Blanket with this note 04:20:347 (8) - it is already blanket, but move some anchor anyway
  11. 04:23:189 (8) - Blanket too ^
  12. 05:17:505 (3,4,5,6,7) - This is anti-flow! Ctrl+G the 5+6 ok, fixed
  13. That's all for me, I think the end is pretty cool, but the begining needs a lot of rework about flow/aesthetics stuffs. Good luck for it, you have potential!! :3 Thank you! yeah, some part at the beginning kinda have some bad flow, etc. might remap if more people have problems with this.
Thanks you for the mod!
probaly the best mod instead other mods.
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