영어 너무 어렵;; 노래가 변함에 따라 맵의 구조적인 변화... 이거 무슨 말이죠;;
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petit milady - Hakone Hakoiri Musume
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Topic Starter
양측으로 번역해드릴 수 있으니 어려우신 부분 있으면 말씀하세요
맵 내용에 대한 건 제가 아직 오스를 못 들어가서 봐드리긴 어렵겠네요. 한 2시간쯤 뒤에 집 들어갈 듯?
맵 내용에 대한 건 제가 아직 오스를 못 들어가서 봐드리긴 어렵겠네요. 한 2시간쯤 뒤에 집 들어갈 듯?
Topic Starter
applied some suggestion after some discussion with some mapper.
* 00:27:259 - reduce spacing, rhythm this section
* 00:18:532 - adjust some placed(guess 70% redesign here). about rhythm, i try to more 1/2 rhythm with keep emphasis finish <=> 1/1 sldier.
* add hitsound what kalibe's mention.
@shiro : ok, i see. i get this idea what i do. after some discussion. so i could * 00:27:259 -
thanks you for your help
@yuii: spacing problem is fixed. and redesign something 00:18:532 -
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try to fix again with something
*reparttening at 00:01:078 -
*adjust some DS, placement with consistent or with vaild reason.
* 00:27:259 - reduce spacing, rhythm this section
* 00:18:532 - adjust some placed(guess 70% redesign here). about rhythm, i try to more 1/2 rhythm with keep emphasis finish <=> 1/1 sldier.
* add hitsound what kalibe's mention.
@shiro : ok, i see. i get this idea what i do. after some discussion. so i could * 00:27:259 -
thanks you for your help
@yuii: spacing problem is fixed. and redesign something 00:18:532 -
######
try to fix again with something
*reparttening at 00:01:078 -
*adjust some DS, placement with consistent or with vaild reason.
Topic Starter
unintended double post rip
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22:13 Pentori: flow is fine
22:13 Pentori: regarding rhythm
22:13 Pentori: 00:05:305 (7) - maybe remove this?
22:13 Pentori: and stack 00:05:168 (6) - on 00:05:441 (1)
22:14 Pentori: because then it plays the same as 00:02:987 (6,1) -
22:14 Pentori: since the sounds are the same
22:15 Lami: hm.. how about think my reason? http://puu.sh/s673q.png
22:15 Lami: i won't keep if many people feel weird in here
22:16 Lami: because already some people say about that owo
22:16 Pentori: i dont really understand that explanation
22:16 Pentori: what are you following with it?
22:16 Pentori: the techno?
22:18 Lami: try to follow this sound 00:01:350 - , 00:01:487 - , 00:01:759 - 00:02:032 - , 00:02:305 - , 00:02:578 - , 00:02:714 - , 00:02:987 -
22:19 Pentori: but that sound isn't on 00:05:305 (7)
22:19 Pentori: its on 00:05:168 (6)
22:21 Lami: i already some opinion about that but it's kinda vaild reason only for me... i will fix to that. thanks you :3
22:24 Pentori: 00:11:441 (1,2,1) - i'd make 00:11:714 (2,1) - bigger jump
22:24 Pentori: 00:11:441 (1,2) - smaller jump
22:26 Lami: ok i agree, fix too
22:29 Pentori: rest seems fine~
22:13 Pentori: regarding rhythm
22:13 Pentori: 00:05:305 (7) - maybe remove this?
22:13 Pentori: and stack 00:05:168 (6) - on 00:05:441 (1)
22:14 Pentori: because then it plays the same as 00:02:987 (6,1) -
22:14 Pentori: since the sounds are the same
22:15 Lami: hm.. how about think my reason? http://puu.sh/s673q.png
22:15 Lami: i won't keep if many people feel weird in here
22:16 Lami: because already some people say about that owo
22:16 Pentori: i dont really understand that explanation
22:16 Pentori: what are you following with it?
22:16 Pentori: the techno?
22:18 Lami: try to follow this sound 00:01:350 - , 00:01:487 - , 00:01:759 - 00:02:032 - , 00:02:305 - , 00:02:578 - , 00:02:714 - , 00:02:987 -
22:19 Pentori: but that sound isn't on 00:05:305 (7)
22:19 Pentori: its on 00:05:168 (6)
22:21 Lami: i already some opinion about that but it's kinda vaild reason only for me... i will fix to that. thanks you :3
22:24 Pentori: 00:11:441 (1,2,1) - i'd make 00:11:714 (2,1) - bigger jump
22:24 Pentori: 00:11:441 (1,2) - smaller jump
22:26 Lami: ok i agree, fix too
22:29 Pentori: rest seems fine~
Hakone
00:15:805 (2) - Kickslider here, but not 00:16:078 (4) - ? seems a bit inconsistent.
00:18:259 (1) - Construct it more like a lightning bolt so it looks a bit cleaner.
00:53:168 (5,6) - I would make this a 1/2 slider instead so there is a transition into the jump sequence on 00:53:441 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . Right now they feel like the same sequence but i don't think that's your intention since you used NC spam, (also those jumps follow the drum a lot more closely imo).
01:19:487 (7) - There's no note here. Make 6 a slider instead please.
01:23:850 (7) - This one's really feint too, i would make 6 a slider too here. That way theres a transition into 01:23:987 (1,2,3) - instead of everything being jumps here,
01:35:714 (2) - I would NC here, remove NC on 01:35:986 (1) - and NC 01:36:532 (2) - instead. That way the NC's correlate with different phrases.
01:38:714 (1,1) - This is a surprisingly low spacing. Give it a bigger jump?
Dailycare
00:29:714 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Man, this overlap is so confusing lol. I think doing a partial overlap is better than doing a full overlap here.
00:35:714 (4,1) - Spacing is surprisingly small for the sound on 1. You're entering a more upbeat section, so put a jump here?
Nice
Little
00:57:805 (1,2) - How about using the same slider design instead? It follows your symmetrical sliders and beat-pairing from earlier: 00:55:623 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
00:58:487 (4) - This slider design seemed kinda random for the section.
Kalibe
00:07:623 (1,2) - I don't like this 1/1 gap mainly because you're sacrificing rhythm choice for a specific pattern design. I think its better to map out the triplets on 00:07:759 - rather than create a large 1/1 gap spacing.
00:11:441 (2) - NC since you NC'ed 00:13:623 (1) -
00:15:805 (2) - I would also NC here too, but this is less important. 01:36:532 (2) - too
thzz
00:54:805 (2,3,4,5) - Okay, i'm not really getting this rhythm at all. I want to say Ctrl+G 00:54:805 (2,3) - but then circle into triplet seems really dense.
eiNess
AR 5.5 is better imo just because of how high the bpm is.
Normal
Good!
[]
I don't really agree with the reasons for the pop. I don't think you should ever have to map to vocals. Some people prefer mapping to the instrumental track in order to supplement the vocals. Also, mapping quality isn't always determined by aesthetics. Of course, if your map looks nice, then its more likely to be high quality, but we shouldn't rely only on visual/aesthetic quality because not all mappers base their mapping on structure and easily-distinguishable patterns in editor.
Anyways, call me back when everyone's replied. I'll assume since this has been bubbled before, that metadata has been confirmed somewhere?
00:15:805 (2) - Kickslider here, but not 00:16:078 (4) - ? seems a bit inconsistent.
00:18:259 (1) - Construct it more like a lightning bolt so it looks a bit cleaner.
00:53:168 (5,6) - I would make this a 1/2 slider instead so there is a transition into the jump sequence on 00:53:441 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . Right now they feel like the same sequence but i don't think that's your intention since you used NC spam, (also those jumps follow the drum a lot more closely imo).
01:19:487 (7) - There's no note here. Make 6 a slider instead please.
01:23:850 (7) - This one's really feint too, i would make 6 a slider too here. That way theres a transition into 01:23:987 (1,2,3) - instead of everything being jumps here,
01:35:714 (2) - I would NC here, remove NC on 01:35:986 (1) - and NC 01:36:532 (2) - instead. That way the NC's correlate with different phrases.
01:38:714 (1,1) - This is a surprisingly low spacing. Give it a bigger jump?
Dailycare
00:29:714 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Man, this overlap is so confusing lol. I think doing a partial overlap is better than doing a full overlap here.
00:35:714 (4,1) - Spacing is surprisingly small for the sound on 1. You're entering a more upbeat section, so put a jump here?
Nice
Little
00:57:805 (1,2) - How about using the same slider design instead? It follows your symmetrical sliders and beat-pairing from earlier: 00:55:623 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) -
00:58:487 (4) - This slider design seemed kinda random for the section.
Kalibe
00:07:623 (1,2) - I don't like this 1/1 gap mainly because you're sacrificing rhythm choice for a specific pattern design. I think its better to map out the triplets on 00:07:759 - rather than create a large 1/1 gap spacing.
00:11:441 (2) - NC since you NC'ed 00:13:623 (1) -
00:15:805 (2) - I would also NC here too, but this is less important. 01:36:532 (2) - too
thzz
00:54:805 (2,3,4,5) - Okay, i'm not really getting this rhythm at all. I want to say Ctrl+G 00:54:805 (2,3) - but then circle into triplet seems really dense.
eiNess
AR 5.5 is better imo just because of how high the bpm is.
Normal
Good!
[]
I don't really agree with the reasons for the pop. I don't think you should ever have to map to vocals. Some people prefer mapping to the instrumental track in order to supplement the vocals. Also, mapping quality isn't always determined by aesthetics. Of course, if your map looks nice, then its more likely to be high quality, but we shouldn't rely only on visual/aesthetic quality because not all mappers base their mapping on structure and easily-distinguishable patterns in editor.
Anyways, call me back when everyone's replied. I'll assume since this has been bubbled before, that metadata has been confirmed somewhere?
fixed all
thx monstratos
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@Monstrata
changed in another way (using 1/1 slider)
thank you!
@Lami
http://puu.sh/sjXWD/8e38f5d971.osu
changed in another way (using 1/1 slider)
thank you!
@Lami
http://puu.sh/sjXWD/8e38f5d971.osu
Thanks mr monstrataMonstrata wrote:
Dailycare
00:29:714 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Man, this overlap is so confusing lol. I think doing a partial overlap is better than doing a full overlap here. Fixed it but I'm still not sure whether the new pattern is good enough
00:35:714 (4,1) - Spacing is surprisingly small for the sound on 1. You're entering a more upbeat section, so put a jump here? hai
Nice ^.^
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Topic Starter
thanks for moddingMonstrata wrote:
Hakone
00:15:805 (2) - Kickslider here, but not 00:16:078 (4) - ? seems a bit inconsistent.
because 00:15:873 - only have unique drum in blue tick, at 00:15:805 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
00:18:259 (1) - Construct it more like a lightning bolt so it looks a bit cleaner. will try
00:53:168 (5,6) - I would make this a 1/2 slider instead so there is a transition into the jump sequence on 00:53:441 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - . Right now they feel like the same sequence but i don't think that's your intention since you used NC spam, (also those jumps follow the drum a lot more closely imo).
change slider
01:19:487 (7) - There's no note here. Make 6 a slider instead please. ok
01:23:850 (7) - This one's really feint too, i would make 6 a slider too here. That way theres a transition into 01:23:987 (1,2,3) - instead of everything being jumps here, since 01:23:850 - have pretty drum here. then i'd like click circle here. hmm.. also, i think it doesn't make confuse here, by high AR
01:35:714 (2) - I would NC here, remove NC on 01:35:986 (1) - and NC 01:36:532 (2) - instead. That way the NC's correlate with different phrases.
this NC usage by strong beat, since at 01:34:895 - , 01:35:986 - have pretty strong beat here.
you may worried this modding by 01:30:532 (1,1) - , or 01:32:714 (1,1) - this NC usage. because they take break during long rhythm. so
for divide partten in here. but 01:34:895 (1,2,3,1,2) - doesn't have long break, like previous.
01:38:714 (1,1) - This is a surprisingly low spacing. Give it a bigger jump? yea
Normal
Good!
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I don't really agree with the reasons for the pop. I don't think you should ever have to map to vocals. Some people prefer mapping to the instrumental track in order to supplement the vocals. Also, mapping quality isn't always determined by aesthetics. Of course, if your map looks nice, then its more likely to be high quality, but we shouldn't rely only on visual/aesthetic quality because not all mappers base their mapping on structure and easily-distinguishable patterns in editor.
Anyways, call me back when everyone's replied. I'll assume since this has been bubbled before, that metadata has been confirmed somewhere?
1. p/4723765
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/470000 (ranked map)
@Advanced : fix to AR 5.5
Fixed. Thanks.
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Sorry for the delay. School happened ;c.
A lot of work seems to have been done between Xexxar's pop and this rebubble. In any case, I'm happy with the state that it's in now. Here's your rebubble, and good luck finding your 2nd (3rd?) BN!
A lot of work seems to have been done between Xexxar's pop and this rebubble. In any case, I'm happy with the state that it's in now. Here's your rebubble, and good luck finding your 2nd (3rd?) BN!
Sorry delay so long because have a big busy irl things before, thanks above BNs check and I feel nothing to say that now, let it qua
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gratz
ㅋㅋ결국 랭
温泉幼精ハコネちゃん! gratz !!!
tragic
grats
I mean, it's pretty obvious to see that the mapper just waited things out and then tried again having changed very little at all.
The problem I personally have with Hakone is not whether it maps vocals or instruments or not, but that it has no variance whatsoever in its spacing or vitality.
00:16:350 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - Let's take this bit for example. The music has a very obvious heavy drum on the first beat, with three vocal syllables following them. A very good way to map this would be to make the 1s independent from the 2,3,4s by patterning them differently. but alas, the mapper just uses a random 1,2,3,4 pp pattern with no real variance in spacing at all.
And you can't use the "well it's mapping the instruments" excuse because the drums and guitar only appear on the 1,2,3s there. There is no instrument on the 4s so they must be layering the vocals or they are making things up.
The map is fine. It's playable. It even plays well.
But it does not feel like you're playing a map built around the song. It's just using the song as a background rhythm while you play the map. This is the essence of what I call "Whack-a-mole" mapping. Players just have the background music and look for the next object to click on. There's no immersion, there's no automatic, instinctive movement to finish patterns you've established in the song. This map has no coherent theme and no selling point to speak of.
The extra does quite well at representing a theme and having consistent structural choices with certain patterns showing up when the music uses that pattern. It does a very good job of giving each musical pattern a fitting object pattern, and using those object patterns when the music uses that pattern. This is how a map is "consistent", and it's the manipulation of this concept that makes boring TV sizes "good" if mapped correctly. This kind of mapping is done pretty much unconsciously and doesn't seem to really be explained in so many words unless you're directly taught it.
If this was someone's first ranked map, I wouldn't even mention this kind of thing and would simply applaud the mapper on a job well done on their first map. But Lami has 10 other ranked maps, with pretty much the same issue in every single map, and it's about time he took some steps forward as a mapper. He shouldn't hold second torch to his GD extras all the time.
tl;dr The mapset is objectively okay, but the topmost diff subjectively sucks. I like the GD extra as a topmost diff, myself, but that'd be putting down the map uploader ^^''
The problem I personally have with Hakone is not whether it maps vocals or instruments or not, but that it has no variance whatsoever in its spacing or vitality.
00:16:350 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - Let's take this bit for example. The music has a very obvious heavy drum on the first beat, with three vocal syllables following them. A very good way to map this would be to make the 1s independent from the 2,3,4s by patterning them differently. but alas, the mapper just uses a random 1,2,3,4 pp pattern with no real variance in spacing at all.
And you can't use the "well it's mapping the instruments" excuse because the drums and guitar only appear on the 1,2,3s there. There is no instrument on the 4s so they must be layering the vocals or they are making things up.
The map is fine. It's playable. It even plays well.
But it does not feel like you're playing a map built around the song. It's just using the song as a background rhythm while you play the map. This is the essence of what I call "Whack-a-mole" mapping. Players just have the background music and look for the next object to click on. There's no immersion, there's no automatic, instinctive movement to finish patterns you've established in the song. This map has no coherent theme and no selling point to speak of.
The extra does quite well at representing a theme and having consistent structural choices with certain patterns showing up when the music uses that pattern. It does a very good job of giving each musical pattern a fitting object pattern, and using those object patterns when the music uses that pattern. This is how a map is "consistent", and it's the manipulation of this concept that makes boring TV sizes "good" if mapped correctly. This kind of mapping is done pretty much unconsciously and doesn't seem to really be explained in so many words unless you're directly taught it.
If this was someone's first ranked map, I wouldn't even mention this kind of thing and would simply applaud the mapper on a job well done on their first map. But Lami has 10 other ranked maps, with pretty much the same issue in every single map, and it's about time he took some steps forward as a mapper. He shouldn't hold second torch to his GD extras all the time.
tl;dr The mapset is objectively okay, but the topmost diff subjectively sucks. I like the GD extra as a topmost diff, myself, but that'd be putting down the map uploader ^^''
Topic Starter
"Shiirn"
I mean, it's pretty obvious to see that the mapper just waited things out and then tried again having changed very little at all.
i had discussion with many mapper. and i get many opinion about them. (some BNs, my map's GDer, my friend, player, etc...)
I didn't proceed with my own opinion.
The problem I personally have with Hakone is not whether it maps vocals or instruments or not, but that it has no variance whatsoever in its spacing or vitality.
00:16:350 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - Let's take this bit for example. The music has a very obvious heavy drum on the first beat, with three vocal syllables following them. A very good way to map this would be to make the 1s independent from the 2,3,4s by patterning them differently. but alas, the mapper just uses a random 1,2,3,4 pp pattern with no real variance in spacing at all.
At 00:16:350 (1,2,3,4) - , /// (1) - Drum(no vocal) , (2) - Strong vocal , (3) - Small vocal , (4) Strong vocal than (3).
DS was based on that. <<btw, every DS can't keep consistent by placement.>>
i understand what you say. but i still prefer current style which aimed vocal.
because it's mostly charming part(impressive about vocal) on this song.
And you can't use the "well it's mapping the instruments" excuse because the drums and guitar only appear on the 1,2,3s there. There is no instrument on the 4s so they must be layering the vocals or they are making things up.
The map is fine. It's playable. It even plays well.
But it does not feel like you're playing a map built around the song. It's just using the song as a background rhythm while you play the map. This is the essence of what I call "Whack-a-mole" mapping. Players just have the background music and look for the next object to click on. There's no immersion, there's no automatic, instinctive movement to finish patterns you've established in the song. This map has no coherent theme and no selling point to speak of.
it's really depend on mapper, even if someone want to follow really un-major beat with inconsistent rhythm choice, anyone can't force to fix this choice. i think that 'map = express mapper's think'
The extra does quite well at representing a theme and having consistent structural choices with certain patterns showing up when the music uses that pattern. It does a very good job of giving each musical pattern a fitting object pattern, and using those object patterns when the music uses that pattern. This is how a map is "consistent", and it's the manipulation of this concept that makes boring TV sizes "good" if mapped correctly. This kind of mapping is done pretty much unconsciously and doesn't seem to really be explained in so many words unless you're directly taught it.
If this was someone's first ranked map, I wouldn't even mention this kind of thing and would simply applaud the mapper on a job well done on their first map. But Lami has 10 other ranked maps, with pretty much the same issue in every single map, and it's about time he took some steps forward as a mapper. He shouldn't hold second torch to his GD extras all the time. hmm, I don't receive GD in that sense. Every mapper have different style, then i want player enjoy different style in my mapset, because every player don't have same taste. but maybe, i will try to improve my mapping in the future. because mapping doesn't have 100% correct answer.
tl;dr The mapset is objectively okay, but the topmost diff subjectively sucks. I like the GD extra as a topmost diff, myself, but that'd be putting down the map uploader ^^'' plz do not bad word 'suck', i believe you already know it's pretty bad word, @_@.....
i had discussion with many mapper. and i get many opinion about them. (some BNs, my map's GDer, my friend, player, etc...)
I didn't proceed with my own opinion.
The problem I personally have with Hakone is not whether it maps vocals or instruments or not, but that it has no variance whatsoever in its spacing or vitality.
00:16:350 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2) - Let's take this bit for example. The music has a very obvious heavy drum on the first beat, with three vocal syllables following them. A very good way to map this would be to make the 1s independent from the 2,3,4s by patterning them differently. but alas, the mapper just uses a random 1,2,3,4 pp pattern with no real variance in spacing at all.
At 00:16:350 (1,2,3,4) - , /// (1) - Drum(no vocal) , (2) - Strong vocal , (3) - Small vocal , (4) Strong vocal than (3).
DS was based on that. <<btw, every DS can't keep consistent by placement.>>
i understand what you say. but i still prefer current style which aimed vocal.
because it's mostly charming part(impressive about vocal) on this song.
And you can't use the "well it's mapping the instruments" excuse because the drums and guitar only appear on the 1,2,3s there. There is no instrument on the 4s so they must be layering the vocals or they are making things up.
The map is fine. It's playable. It even plays well.
But it does not feel like you're playing a map built around the song. It's just using the song as a background rhythm while you play the map. This is the essence of what I call "Whack-a-mole" mapping. Players just have the background music and look for the next object to click on. There's no immersion, there's no automatic, instinctive movement to finish patterns you've established in the song. This map has no coherent theme and no selling point to speak of.
it's really depend on mapper, even if someone want to follow really un-major beat with inconsistent rhythm choice, anyone can't force to fix this choice. i think that 'map = express mapper's think'
The extra does quite well at representing a theme and having consistent structural choices with certain patterns showing up when the music uses that pattern. It does a very good job of giving each musical pattern a fitting object pattern, and using those object patterns when the music uses that pattern. This is how a map is "consistent", and it's the manipulation of this concept that makes boring TV sizes "good" if mapped correctly. This kind of mapping is done pretty much unconsciously and doesn't seem to really be explained in so many words unless you're directly taught it.
If this was someone's first ranked map, I wouldn't even mention this kind of thing and would simply applaud the mapper on a job well done on their first map. But Lami has 10 other ranked maps, with pretty much the same issue in every single map, and it's about time he took some steps forward as a mapper. He shouldn't hold second torch to his GD extras all the time. hmm, I don't receive GD in that sense. Every mapper have different style, then i want player enjoy different style in my mapset, because every player don't have same taste. but maybe, i will try to improve my mapping in the future. because mapping doesn't have 100% correct answer.
tl;dr The mapset is objectively okay, but the topmost diff subjectively sucks. I like the GD extra as a topmost diff, myself, but that'd be putting down the map uploader ^^'' plz do not bad word 'suck', i believe you already know it's pretty bad word, @_@.....
will edit when i can read that
ok, i can read finally
thanks for feedback.
taketatsu ayana is fine.Lami wrote:
竹達彩奈 Taketatsu Ayane
must be changed online tags ?
Topic Starter
LOLLami wrote:
rip my metadataLami wrote:
1. p/4723765
2. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/470000 (ranked map)