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Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down Again

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Frill
[Normal]

00:54:809 (4,6) - remove whistle?

[Relaxing]

00:54:809 (4,6) - remove whistle?


good map.

+Star
Xgor
[Background]
A pretty big chunk of the BG is unused. Please crop it to 768x576 and full submit.


[Tags]

Maybe add Music for the Masses to tags.

[Preview Point]
I think 01:20:568 is a much better preview point.

Other than that is everything good and fault free.
Undoubtedly rankible and it's nice to see more Depeche Mode in osu!.
*star*
(Hey you maybe want to join my Depeche Mode album project)
Kiddo-Kun
[Hard]

00:53:677 (2) - Move 1 grid left
00:58:206 (2) - ^


Some ugly sliders, but i guess that was on purpose.
That's all folks

+Star
Topic Starter
gyt
00:53:677 (2) - Move 1 grid left
00:58:206 (2) - ^
hm.. No. :D
Garven
As per your request:

Your hit sounds are really weird to me, but eh.

[Normal]
01:02:452 (1) - Remove whistle from sliderslide. It sticks out really bad and sounds horrible to me.
02:08:121 (4) - ^
02:12:650 (1,3) - ^
02:14:915 (1) - ^
Nice 'n easy diff.

[Relaxing]
00:44:336 (1) - Whistle, slider, bleh. Seems like that's the only thing I can contribute considering the mapping style. :P
01:02:452 (1) - ^
01:56:799 (1) - ^
02:08:121 (5) - ^
02:12:650 (1,3) - ^
02:14:915 (1,2) - ^

[Hard]
00:28:485 (8) - ^
00:30:749 (1) - ^
00:32:731 (6,7) - ^
00:44:336 (1) - ^
00:54:809 (4) - ^
00:55:941 (6) - ^
00:58:772 (3) - ^
01:01:037 (9) - ^
01:13:775 (8) - ^
01:16:039 (1) - ^
01:18:021 (6,7) - ^

Meh, you get the idea.

Nice map set.
Topic Starter
gyt
I get the idea, but I will wait until another person hates my whistle sliders.
Doodley
Odd song. To be honest, it doesn't fit osu very well. AS LONG AS I REMEMBER WHO'S WEARING THE TROUSERS
I didn't download the video because it's a huge file. Compress it, if you can.

You don't need to follow everything here.

General Notes
pshhh pshhh pshhh pshhh I never liked the Soft audio's Whistles because it's just generally annoying, buuuuut the volume isn't blaring so it's cool.
02:51:713 in my opinion is an unnecessary time for Kaia, because there is no change in the tone of the song.All Kaia time uses after that are fine, but the 4 instances from 03:45:494 onwards are odd and obvious fountain abuse. I suggest you use Kaia time for that entire part of the song.
Why is the fade out mapped...?
The spinners on all difficulties may be too close to the next note, especially Normal, but again, I don't think they need changing.

Normal
01:27:078: Extend the slider to stop at 01:27:644 (and move the note closer afterward)
03:07:281: This spinner feels unnecessary. If you remove it, extend the slider to stop at 03:07:564.
03:37:002 (1, 2, 3, 4) Flip this combo vertically?

Relaxing
The notes feel...uneven and oddly placed. The notes are placed nicely on the other difficulties.
3:08:696: This note could be placed next to 10. While placing notes on notes has been done before on this difficulty and is not a problem, this one is just odd and isn't part of a pattern.

Hard
Good!

Star.
Topic Starter
gyt
Odd song. To be honest, it doesn't fit osu very well.
Sorry, but I like such songs..

I change some kiai and 3:08:696 note in relaxing. Thanks!
jericho2442
[Relaxing]
00:56:508 (7) - this slider sounds to end too soon, i advise to make it end 2 ticks fowerd (white tick), it sounds much better that way :)

[Hard]
03:15:490 (5) - this feels very odd to play :/ either make it a single hitcircle or make it one tick longer so it ends on the red tick, either way will make this feel and play MUCH better
03:36:436 (1) - remove new combo since your beaking the combo pattern your following

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very smooth beatmaps enjoy my star ;)
Takuma
Cool map, bad song. I almost died. Here's a star.
roflninja
Hi, sorry for the long delay :(

[normal]
01:01:037 (6) - you could probably shape this a bit neater, try moving that bottom waypoint
01:36:702 (1) - maybe end this spinner at 01:38:683 ? up to you
03:41:531 (1) - no new combo? i dunno, up to you
04:12:667 to 04:17:196 - why do you have kiai here when there are no notes? it's pointless, remove it

[relaxing]
00:46:317 (4) - whitsle instead of finish?
02:36:144 (4) - new combo?
04:12:667 to 04:16:630 - why do you have kiai here when there are no notes? it's pointless, remove it

[hard]
01:45:760 (2) - 1 grid left
02:11:235 (5) - why is this down there? why not have it curve to this inside, and move (6,7) up?
like this?
04:12:667 to 04:16:913 - why do you have kiai here when there are no notes? it's pointless, remove it

nice map
EvianBubble
Hey there, here's my mod :)

General
Interesting song, I like it ^_^
Delete .osb and full submit
Your overall file size is over 20MB. Since your .mp3 is not that good quality (160kbps) I suggest reducing the size of your video
Add "music for the masses" (the album name) into the tags
Offset feels a TEENSY bit late to me, change to 8103? (You don't have to. I'm also not a great timer. Use your judgement here lol)
A lot of copypasta, hmm? Well, at least you somehow managed to make it tasty o_O

Normal
01:14:340 (5, 7) - Change finishes to whistles?
03:56:250 (3) - Make this slider curve the other way (pull the slider point down) - it'll look nicer and it won't overlap with (5)
Erm ... why map the outro? I think you should probably stop it at 04:03:610 ...
Otherwise, pretty good difficulty, not much wrong here

Relaxing
00:58:206 (2, 4) - Move these one grid up
Stop at 04:03:610 and change the slider to just a circle ...

Hard
01:46:892 (5) - Did you purposely un - align this? If not move one grid left
03:20:018 (5, 11) - Change whistle to clap?
03:24:547 (5) - Same thing
End on 04:03:610 as well and change to a note ...

Pretty solid mapset, just a few minor things to fix. Good luck with it! :D

+1 star
AdRon Zh3Ro
Hmm...
[*]Change?
[>]Change!

Try do add another colours (yellow, blue and red maybe).



All Diffs:
4:12:667: un-necessary kiai?

Relaxing:
>4:10:120 to 4:12:667 Add a spiner and delete the slider here (sounds better).

Hard:
>54:243 to 1:00:470 Sounds weird...

Nice map...
Topic Starter
gyt
4:12:667: un-necessary kiai?
It's special hook (see http://osu.ppy.sh/b/62980 or http://osu.ppy.sh/b/46916 for example)
vivere
Hiii :)

General:
BMP: 106,000

My mod~

SPOILER
[Normal]:

00:39:236- New combo, move one grid level to your right
00:45:179- Curvature has to be better

01:15:745- The new combo start here
01:57:632- Curvature has to be better

02:08:104- New combo
02:28:198- ^
02:39:519- Lower level 1 grid
02:53:104- Curvature has to be better

03:29:330- ^
03:33:858- ^
03:38:387- Finish spinner that here: 03:40:368
03:48:575- Curvature has to be better
03:53:104- ^

04:01:028- ^
-------------------------
[Relaxing]:

00:56:508- Curvature has to be better
01:01:037- ^
01:15:756- The new combo start here

02:08:121- New combo
02:28:236- The new combo start here

03:29:359- Curvature has to be better
03:33:888- ^
03:48:607- ^
03:53:136- ^
03:57:665- ^

04:01:062- ^
04:10:120- ^
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[Hard]:

00:28:485- New combo
00:32:731- ^
00:35:278- Curvature has to be better

01:02:452- ^
01:04:433- ^
01:13:774- New combo
01:15:756- The new combo start here
01:47:741- Curvature has to be better
01:46:892- That the slider is aligned with the lower
01:47:741- Curvature has to be better
01:49:723- ^

02:26:237- New combo

03:29:359- Curvature has to be better
03:33:888- ^
03:38:417- ^
03:42:946- ^

I leave an image if you like and want to :)


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Good map ;)

Star~
Topic Starter
gyt
Thanks for image! It's cool but has 1000x1000 size, so I crop it (not very well maybe).
Thanks for big mod too! I'm a bit lazy to fix all "Curvature has to be better" stuff (and unskilful too). So maybe later. :D
Lesjuh
Remove .osb file from song folder and full submit.

That's it! [Relaxing] is great!
RandomJibberish
General
End Kiai at the end
I don't like how you mapped into the fadeout, I'd end the map around 04:03:610

Normal
02:49:165 (1), 03:07:281 (1) - I don't like the spinners like this one, they're just filling space and are pretty short for a normal. Just delete both of them.

Relaxing
Why does only this diff have a different name to the defaults?
Looks good though, I like the patterns in this diff.

Hard
I hate the triplets in this they follow nothing
Good otherwise though
Topic Starter
gyt
General
End Kiai at the end
I don't like how you mapped into the fadeout, I'd end the map around 04:03:610

Normal
02:49:165 (1), 03:07:281 (1) - I don't like the spinners like this one, they're just filling space and are pretty short for a normal. Just delete both of them.
all fixed
Why does only this diff have a different name to the defaults?
What do you suggest? Using "normal-hard-insane"? I don't think it is right.
James2250
Recommended size for background is either 1024x768 or 800x600

Normal:
01:19:152 (5) - add a repeat
02:31:615 (5) - ^

Relaxing:
looks good

Hard:
looks good

*star*
Rukario
Normal:
01:22:549 (3) - one grid right, overlay looks bad
01:35:287 (2,3) - bring either the endpoint of (2) on the same height as (3) or disable grid snap and bring (3) on the same height as the endpoint of (2)
02:17:462 (4) - ignore distance snap and one grid down
02:35:012 (3) - one grid left
02:53:128 (3) - one grid up
03:21:717 (5) - one grid left

Relaxing:
02:06:706 (4) - 3 grids left

Hard:
Nothing found.

Nice map
Star~
choche_old
Hi! :) I'm going to start with the mod :)

Things you must do.
Suggestions (If you don't agree with me, you don't have to change it.

[General]
Good song :3

[Normal]

Nothing to say,good diff.

[Relaxing]
Good! :D

[Hard]
Awesome <3

Sorry, but i can't mod something which looks perfect for me :D

*star*
0_o
General
-I think the map would look nicer if the hitcircles were a bit more greyed out - the default colours kind of clash with the video. Not saying to make the hitcircles monochromatic, just fade the colours a bit. It would look cool imo.
-The catmull sliders are kind of ugleh, but w/e.

Normal
03:16:905 (1,1) - The spinner length combined with the next note coming so shortly after it makes this very tricky for the easiest diff. May I suggest starting the spinner where the previous slider starts (deleting it of course), then removing the next circle? It'll give the player more time to spin as well as more recovery after the spinner.
03:26:246 (1) - Same problem as above, but it's even tougher :P I would just delete this spinner and do something else here.
03:38:417 (1) - Maybe arrange it like this?

I feel like I should be clicking on the spot where the spinner starts now, but if an extra note is added then the spinner would be too short. This solution solves both of those problems. (This also goes for the next part just like this)
04:01:062 (6,1) - Maybe arrange like the above? The spinner IS still a bit short.

Relaxing
03:10:394 - Make the new combos in this section consistent with Normal
03:36:436 (1) - Remove new combo?
03:38:417 (1) - Same as Normal perhaps? Same with the next spinner.

Hard
Seems fine to me.

Have a star, sir.
Topic Starter
gyt
-I think the map would look nicer if the hitcircles were a bit more greyed out - the default colours kind of clash with the video. Not saying to make the hitcircles monochromatic, just fade the colours a bit. It would look cool imo. ok
-The catmull sliders are kind of ugleh, but w/e. it's not catmull, it's ugly bezier! :)

Normal
03:16:905 (1,1) - The spinner length combined with the next note coming so shortly after it makes this very tricky for the easiest diff. May I suggest starting the spinner where the previous slider starts (deleting it of course), then removing the next circle? It'll give the player more time to spin as well as more recovery after the spinner. I made spinner longer, but I don't want delete circle.
03:26:246 (1) - Same problem as above, but it's even tougher I would just delete this spinner and do something else here. ok
03:38:417 (1) - Maybe arrange it like this?
I feel like I should be clicking on the spot where the spinner starts now, but if an extra note is added then the spinner would be too short. This solution solves both of those problems. (This also goes for the next part just like this) I don't feel it. I map voice more than beats

04:01:062 (6,1) - Maybe arrange like the above? The spinner IS still a bit short. "Normal criteria: Shortest spinner length 1416ms is less than 1500ms." 84ms?


Relaxing
03:10:394 - Make the new combos in this section consistent with Normal no
03:36:436 (1) - Remove new combo? yes
03:38:417 (1) - Same as Normal perhaps? Same with the next spinner. no

Hard
Seems fine to me.

Have a star, sir.
Derekku
[General]
*When a map ends a bit before the song does, I usually suggest adding a single kiai fountain to the last note as a "finishing touch" to the map. :p
*BPM is surprisingly fine, but the offset feels just a tiny bit early. 8,110 should work better (remember to resnap on all diffs).

[Normal]
01:36:702 (1) - expected this to end on the next white tick.

[Relaxing]
*I found it strange that this is the only diff with a non-standard (Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane) name
01:38:683 - expected a note here

[Hard]
00:54:243 (3,4,5,6) - Each of these ending on a blue tick sounds a little bit strange, but it plays fine (also found in other spots in this difficulty)
01:38:683 - expected a note here

Nothing looks unrankable, and I see a nice use of patterns and hitsounds. However, I'm a little concerned about the names of the difficulties and the difficulty spread as a whole. Normal plays like a Normal, Relaxing feels like a hard Normal or just a Hard, and Hard plays like an Insane (albeit a bit easy due to the low bpm).

Most of Normal would be fine as the easiest map in this set, but some parts would still be too tricky for new players. You could dumb down the difficulty with a larger circle size, more sliders (especially for the large number of red tick offbeat notes), and some smaller spacing in parts OR you could make a real Easy for the song (I suggest doing this). If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.

Great job!
Natteke
Простотак
Topic Starter
gyt

Derekku wrote:

[General]
*When a map ends a bit before the song does, I usually suggest adding a single kiai fountain to the last note as a "finishing touch" to the map. :p OK, I made it again, but some people in this thread don't very like this
*BPM is surprisingly fine, but the offset feels just a tiny bit early. 8,110 should work better (remember to resnap on all diffs). OK, thanks

[Normal]
01:36:702 (1) - expected this to end on the next white tick. no change

[Relaxing]
*I found it strange that this is the only diff with a non-standard (Easy/Normal/Hard/Insane) name It's definitely not Hard for me. And I don't like "Normal+", when usual "Normal" here.
01:38:683 - expected a note here no change

[Hard]
00:54:243 (3,4,5,6) - Each of these ending on a blue tick sounds a little bit strange, but it plays fine (also found in other spots in this difficulty) add low sound sections
01:38:683 - expected a note here no change

Nothing looks unrankable, and I see a nice use of patterns and hitsounds. However, I'm a little concerned about the names of the difficulties and the difficulty spread as a whole. Normal plays like a Normal, Relaxing feels like a hard Normal or just a Hard, and Hard plays like an Insane (albeit a bit easy due to the low bpm).

Most of Normal would be fine as the easiest map in this set, but some parts would still be too tricky for new players. You could dumb down the difficulty with a larger circle size, more sliders (especially for the large number of red tick offbeat notes), and some smaller spacing in parts OR you could make a real Easy for the song (I suggest doing this). If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.
no change, sorry. I'm lazy :(

Great job! thanks!
Dangaard
Nice map, looks fine for me. :)
You could try to spread out the slider velocity a bit more next time, to make the difficulties a bit more different.
Musty
Hii~

[Insane]

01:06:986 - What this Break? add Circles likes :
00:48:587 - ^ add a Spinner

The Overall is Perfect...

RANK THAT!

Star~
Topic Starter
gyt

Mustaash wrote:

Hii~

[Insane]

01:06:986 - What this Break? add Circles likes ok
00:48:587 - ^ add a Spinner no, it's in symmetry with 00:39:812. I don't want delete all breaks here

The Overall is Perfect...

RANK THAT!

Star~
Dangaard
Ok, I forgot to mention that your video still got the audio track enabled, you should reconvert it with disabled audio.
Topic Starter
gyt

Dangaard wrote:

Ok, I forgot to mention that your video still got the audio track enabled, you should reconvert it with disabled audio.
No, video doesn't have any audio, but .avi and .mp3 files have the same name. You can place video to other folder for check it.
Dangaard
Oh, sorry, haha, didn't even know this was possible with Media Player Classic :oops:
Jarby
Normal:

02:49:028 - The warning arrows here come up before the break even starts. That's a good sign that it's too short. Just delete it, it'll be fine.

Don't kudosu this post!
wmfchris
[insane]
1:19:440 (10,11,12,13) right 1 grid
2:54:831 (8) up+left a bit?

[hard]
0:59:343 (4,5,6,7,8) (5) down 1 grid, (6,7) left+down 1 grid
1:24:252 (6) left 1 grid?
3:36:158 (8) right 1 grid

nice map, star~
Jarby
Er, +5ms on the offset. Then everything should be fine.

Don't kudosu this.
Topic Starter
gyt
oh fu.. fixed
I want to kudosu you anyway! :)
Xgor
Got some orders from Jar to bubble this due to that he can't..

Well...

Proto-Bubbled

Note that I'm slightly worried over the video as it gives me quite some lag and I wished that you rather took the video from youtube. :/
I would be glad if the BAT/MAT that checks this map after me looks closely on the video if it's okey to be ranked as it is
Jarby
I appreciate it.
Topic Starter
gyt

Xgor wrote:

Note that I'm slightly worried over the video as it gives me quite some lag and I wished that you rather took the video from youtube. :/
I would be glad if the BAT/MAT that checks this map after me looks closely on the video if it's okey to be ranked as it is
Thanks for bubble, Xgor!
If video is a problem, please check this file (replace old video). I used XviD codec instead h264. So it looks horribly, but should not cause lags.
Real1
Hooray, it's bubbled! :D
Sallad4ever
one more step to rank :D
CheeseWarlock
This map really does feel old-school. And I like it.
Sallad4ever
Finally!! :)
Topic Starter
gyt
Thanks all! :D

Unspecified (Other)
I think it's Pop (English) :|
Andrea
Heart fixed.

EDIT: Added "Pop (English)" to the beatmap informations.
Legalist
Nice :D
Real1
Congrats on your first ranked map gyt!
Xgor

gyt wrote:

Thanks for bubble, Xgor!
If video is a problem, please check this file (replace old video). I used XviD codec instead h264. So it looks horribly, but should not cause lags.
Tested it and it works much better ^^
Might be a good idea to edit the first post so if any other have problem, there is a link to a lower prestanda video.

Well... Have to say gratz to get your first map ranked :)


Also sorry for the late reply... was gone this weekend
Topic Starter
gyt
So you didn't need to bubble this map, if you had big lags. :(
First post updated.
Andrea
Heart fixed.
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