Perfume - Nee (short ver.) · forum

Garden

Nomination Assessment Team

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Joined June 2013

Garden 2016-10-14T04:58:55+00:00

General

if there isnt an official source saying (short ver.) maybe thats not needed in title, u can state that by adding tags like cut version or sth

Caffe

od9 doesnt really fit imo, od8 is fairly enough
custom hitsounds are not applied in this diff it seems, also volume adjustment is needed
00:02:076 (1) - it feels pretty empty here with no hitsound
00:02:427 (2) - 00:58:208 (8) - a bit ds inconsistency on the triplet thing
00:26:451 (1,2) - the pattern here feels forced to play imo, if u would like to keep plz at least avoid 1,2 touching for a better look
01:02:544 (3) - unsnapped
01:16:841 (7) - space 7->1 larger than 6->7 for the emphasize on finish?
01:47:076 - only diff that ends the spinner here, move to 01:46:841 - for consistency

Ataraxia's Light Insane

00:24:576 (1,2) - tho its for the pattern, its bit confusing to read this cuz 00:24:341 (6,1) - is 1/4 gap
00:25:279 (2,3,4) - 01:40:279 (2,3,4) - rhythms on blue ticks feels weird to play here, maybe u can add some objects on the white tick downbeats, would play much better imo
00:33:247 (3) - consider changing to a 1/2 slider for the white tick downbeat
01:12:857 (6,7) - move to somewhere around 240,366 might look nicer cuz currently 01:12:388 (4,6,7) - looks visually too close

Hard

the diff gap is like normal---------->hard->light insane, might be an issue so i'd suggest u nerfing this diff. At many places in this diff, u pay too much attention to the pattern designing that many spacings are very unnatural to play like 00:04:419 (2,3,4) - 00:14:263 (4,5,1) - etc.
uh check aimod btw, many unsnapped things there

Normal

00:24:576 (1,2) - a bit confusing to read, either space 2 farther or make 1 a 1/1 slider would be fine

Easy

fine

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-15T01:35:23+00:00

Garden wrote:
General
if there isnt an official source saying (short ver.) maybe thats not needed in title, u can state that by adding tags like cut version or sth the official Perfume YouTube channel shows the title with (short ver.), so it's fine
Hard
the diff gap is like normal---------->hard->light insane, might be an issue so i'd suggest u nerfing this diff. At many places in this diff, u pay too much attention to the pattern designing that many spacings are very unnatural to play like 00:04:419 (2,3,4) - 00:14:263 (4,5,1) - etc. fixed somewhat and still fixing
uh check aimod btw, many unsnapped things there fixed
Normal
00:24:576 (1,2) - a bit confusing to read, either space 2 farther or make 1 a 1/1 slider would be fine fixed, this was a mistake
Easy
fine

Thanks for modding~

theyaoster

61 posts

Joined July 2015

theyaoster 2016-10-15T02:58:16+00:00

Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Easy:

AR0 seems a little low... maybe 2 at least?
00:04:419 (4,1) - Blanket maybe.
00:25:513 (2) and 01:40:513 (2) - This doesn't seem to fit the beat; 1/1 sliders make more sense to me.
01:01:372 (4) - I would consider a stronger hitsound (like clap) on both ends; I hear pretty strong drum beats here (goes for all diffs).

Normal:

00:40:982 (4) - If you're following vocals, the slider would start at 00:41:216 instead (while keeping a hitobject on 00:40:982).

Hard:

00:26:451 (1,2) - Even though these circles match the drums, they sound offset from the main melody. I would strongly consider mapping this part to the main melody since you seem to be doing so for most of the map.
01:36:294 (2,3,4) - The flow is a little awkward here; I would either stack 01:36:529 (3) onto 01:36:763 (4) or rotate the slider so the sliderball moves roughly in the same direction as the cursor movement (for example).
01:41:216 (1) - Seems off-rhythm; maybe have it start at 01:41:333 (currently, I barely hear anything on the starting sliderend).
00:14:263 (4,5) - Spacing should be reduced; rhythm seems relatively similar to before and afterwards.
01:26:216 (1,2) - ^
01:36:294 (2,3) - ^

Ataraxia's Light Insane:

Seems pretty good!

Caffe:

00:10:513 (4,5,6,7) - Spacing could be increased a bit here.
00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - I think 7 overlaps a little too much with 8, 9, and 10. Also, the spacing between 10 and 1 seems a bit much, compared to the notes before it.
00:39:576 (1,2,3) - I don't hear a triple here (potentially overmapped).
00:41:451 (1,2,3) - ^
00:52:701 (1,2,3) - ^. I think there are more cases of this but these stand out to me the most.
01:08:638 (4) - NC here matches patterns from the last 3 NC's.

That's all I could find; good luck!

Jonarwhal

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Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-15T15:24:35+00:00

theyaoster wrote:
Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Easy:
AR0 seems a little low... maybe 2 at least? Fixed~
00:04:419 (4,1) - Blanket maybe. Fixed~
00:25:513 (2) and 01:40:513 (2) - This doesn't seem to fit the beat; 1/1 sliders make more sense to me. Nah, it's fine.
01:01:372 (4) - I would consider a stronger hitsound (like clap) on both ends; I hear pretty strong drum beats here (goes for all diffs). I use claps when there are claps in the music, so raising the volume here would make more sense to me.
Normal:
00:40:982 (4) - If you're following vocals, the slider would start at 00:41:216 instead (while keeping a hitobject on 00:40:982). You're right that there is a pretty strong vocal 00:41:216 - here, but I don't want to map it in Normal to keep the rhythm simple. Also, doing this would ruin the parallel rhythm ~~and blankets~~ with 00:39:576 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern.
Hard:
00:26:451 (1,2) - Even though these circles match the drums, they sound offset from the main melody. I would strongly consider mapping this part to the main melody since you seem to be doing so for most of the map. Fixed~
01:36:294 (2,3,4) - The flow is a little awkward here; I would either stack 01:36:529 (3) onto 01:36:763 (4) or rotate the slider so the sliderball moves roughly in the same direction as the cursor movement (for example). I actually like the rough flow here because there should be a direction change 01:36:763 (4,1) - here for emphasis.
01:41:216 (1) - Seems off-rhythm; maybe have it start at 01:41:333 (currently, I barely hear anything on the starting sliderend). Fixed, but differently and very slightly~
00:14:263 (4,5) - Spacing should be reduced; rhythm seems relatively similar to before and afterwards. It's fine because the note that receives the extra spacing has more emphasis than the surrounding notes.
01:26:216 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:36:294 (2,3) - ^ In this case, the symmetrical jump is fine because it reflects the rhythm on both sides.
That's all I could find; good luck!

Thanks for modding~!!

CaffeAmericano

615 posts

Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 2016-10-17T06:10:47+00:00

@Garden: all fixed except custom hitsounding, which will be worked on later

theyaoster wrote:
Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Caffe:
00:10:513 (4,5,6,7) - Spacing could be increased a bit here. I agree but I'd like to keep equal distnce since I think triplet does some emphasis for the beat
00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - I think 7 overlaps a little too much with 8, 9, and 10. Also, the spacing between 10 and 1 seems a bit much, compared to the notes before it. Overlap is done consistently, It's not a typically good overlap, but I think the sound in the song is atypical as well and fits ok. fixed DS issue
00:39:576 (1,2,3) - I don't hear a triple here (potentially overmapped). Pretty sure there are sounds. However, someone told me I should try to avoid white tick triplets, so I might addresss this later.
00:41:451 (1,2,3) - ^
00:52:701 (1,2,3) - ^. I think there are more cases of this but these stand out to me the most.
01:08:638 (4) - NC here matches patterns from the last 3 NC's.I think what I've done is conssitent
That's all I could find; good luck!

Thank you very much for the mods~

@Jonawaga: feel free to change the name of my diff to whatever you deem fits

Caffe left a creepy box

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Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-17T16:39:14+00:00

@Ataraxia Here's a quick mod of your diff, only apply what seems good to you~!!
[Light Insane]

00:03:716 (6,1) - Include a slight jump here for emphasis on the downbeat. This will be more consistent with 00:02:779 (3,4) - over here. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:03:482 (5,6) - this pattern.
00:17:076 (1) - Change this to 76|292 to avoid overlap.
00:05:591 (6,1) - ^ An easy way to do this would be unstacking 00:05:357 (5,6) - this.
00:33:482 - You missed a pretty strong beat here. I recommend you either add a circle or make a reverse slider from 00:33:247 - here to 00:33:716 - here.
00:47:544 (2,3) - Make the blanket look better.
00:54:576 (1,2) - ^
00:52:466 (4,1) - There's no reason to have such a large jump here, especially when most of your downbeats have small jumps or no jumps. I recommend you make this jump smaller. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:52:466 (4) - this. My biggest concern with your difficulty is that the jumps are disorganized. You should be able to fix this mostly by yourself, but tell me if you need assistance.
01:00:786 (3) - 01:00:786 (3) - Place this at the end of 01:00:435 (2) - this instead of before 01:00:904 (4) - this. This will give more emphasis to the red tick instead of the blue tick there.
01:14:029 (3,5) - Make the blanket look better.

I hope I helped~!!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-17T22:25:28+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
@Ataraxia Here's a quick mod of your diff, only apply what seems good to you~!!
[Light Insane]
00:03:716 (6,1) - Include a slight jump here for emphasis on the downbeat. This will be more consistent with 00:02:779 (3,4) - over here. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:03:482 (5,6) - this pattern.
00:17:076 (1) - Change this to 76|292 to avoid overlap.
00:05:591 (6,1) - ^ An easy way to do this would be unstacking 00:05:357 (5,6) - this.
00:33:482 - You missed a pretty strong beat here. I recommend you either add a circle or make a reverse slider from 00:33:247 - here to 00:33:716 - here.
00:47:544 (2,3) - Make the blanket look better.
00:54:576 (1,2) - ^
00:52:466 (4,1) - There's no reason to have such a large jump here, especially when most of your downbeats have small jumps or no jumps. I recommend you make this jump smaller. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:52:466 (4) - this. My biggest concern with your difficulty is that the jumps are disorganized. You should be able to fix this mostly by yourself, but tell me if you need assistance.
01:00:786 (3) - 01:00:786 (3) - Place this at the end of 01:00:435 (2) - this instead of before 01:00:904 (4) - this. This will give more emphasis to the red tick instead of the blue tick there.
01:14:029 (3,5) - Make the blanket look better.
I hope I helped~!!

Applied all Jona things, Thanks !

Garden wrote:
Ataraxia's Light Insane
00:24:576 (1,2) - tho its for the pattern, its bit confusing to read this cuz 00:24:341 (6,1) - is 1/4 gap the player just need to hold here, its not a problem
00:25:279 (2,3,4) - 01:40:279 (2,3,4) - rhythms on blue ticks feels weird to play here, maybe u can add some objects on the white tick downbeats, would play much better imo
00:33:247 (3) - consider changing to a 1/2 slider for the white tick downbeat
01:12:857 (6,7) - move to somewhere around 240,366 might look nicer cuz currently 01:12:388 (4,6,7) - looks visually too close
Rest Applied

Um dois três quatro um dois três quatro

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Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-17T22:26:26+00:00

Genius ataraxia Double post :p

Pereira006

osu! Alumni

2,801 posts

Joined October 2010

Pereira006 2016-10-18T18:09:10+00:00

hey when i dowlonad, file got corrupt, can you update ? Can't mod, poke me if you did update

Jonarwhal

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Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-18T20:05:30+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
hey when i dowlonad, file got corrupt, can you update ? Can't mod, poke me if you did update

I think I fixed it~!

Pereira006

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2,801 posts

Joined October 2010

Pereira006 2016-10-18T21:15:28+00:00

[Easy]

Hitsound:

00:02:076 (1) - would be cool if add finish is make sense to follow song IMO (all diff's if you add)
00:25:513 (2) - missing add whistle in end, you add whistle every pattern in 2/1 and 4/1 (all diffs)
00:29:263 (2) - ^ same happen
01:40:513 (2) - ^ same happen

[Normal]

Hitsound:

00:18:013 (3) - missing add whistle in end
00:25:044 (2) - ^ same
00:25:513 (3) - ^ same
00:26:451 (4) - ^ same
00:29:732 (3) - ^ same
00:33:482 (4) - ^ same

there many more, try be consistency of hitsound

[advanced]

Gameplay:

00:48:716 (5,1) - there missing NC in 5 then remove NC in 1 to be consistency other pattern and is pretty fit to follow song, example NC pattern in 00:52:466 (1,2), and others

[Hard]

Gameplay:

00:04:888 (4,5,6) - I don't think this need jump because there lot vocal repeat, example in 00:09:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6), and more, they don't have jump, so this part is no need to make jump, for be consistency, also is part calm song. so is better to fix as normal space
00:20:357 (4,1) - missing make jump, try something in (4) move place out or CTRL+H like this https://puu.sh/rNyI8/cc1ceaf49e.jpg or something
00:26:099 (6) - missing NC
01:12:154 (3,4) - inconsistency spacing
01:18:482 (6,1) - more out space, for make better jump, because this placement look like is normal space

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Gameplay:

00:08:638 (1) - Nao devia por novo cor. Maioria outros partes nao fizeste por novo cor, entao isso tambem nao precisa.
00:40:982 (4,1) - podia criar um novo salto porque no (1) tem voz bem alto e batido, logo isso faze sentir se criar nova salto, por exemplo no 00:36:997 (4,1) - isso é bom e outros paterno
00:43:091 (5,1) - ^ mesmo acontece
00:46:138 (1) - Tira NC

Está muito bom mas alguma dele parte precisa salto exemplo no 00:50:357 (5,1), 00:54:107 (4,1) e por ai fora. É nivel do Insane
[]
I check last diff, look good for me, try add hitsound more because there lot missing to add whistle for be more consistency.
Pretty well this set map. Good job and good luck!

Jonarwhal

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Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-22T04:49:12+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
[Easy]

Hitsound:

00:02:076 (1) - would be cool if add finish is make sense to follow song IMO (all diff's if you add) Fixed~
00:25:513 (2) - missing add whistle in end, you add whistle every pattern in 2/1 and 4/1 (all diffs) Fixed~
00:29:263 (2) - ^ same happen Fixed~
01:40:513 (2) - ^ same happen Fixed~
[Normal]

Hitsound:

00:18:013 (3) - missing add whistle in end Fixed~
00:25:044 (2) - ^ same Fixed~
00:25:513 (3) - ^ same Fixed~
00:26:451 (4) - ^ same Fixed~
00:29:732 (3) - ^ same Fixed~
00:33:482 (4) - ^ same Fixed~
there many more, try be consistency of hitsound

[advanced]

Gameplay:

00:48:716 (5,1) - there missing NC in 5 then remove NC in 1 to be consistency other pattern and is pretty fit to follow song, example NC pattern in 00:52:466 (1,2), and others Fixed~
[Hard]

Gameplay:

00:04:888 (4,5,6) - I don't think this need jump because there lot vocal repeat, example in 00:09:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6), and more, they don't have jump, so this part is no need to make jump, for be consistency, also is part calm song. so is better to fix as normal space Fixed~
00:20:357 (4,1) - missing make jump, try something in (4) move place out or CTRL+H like this https://puu.sh/rNyI8/cc1ceaf49e.jpg or something Fixed~
00:26:099 (6) - missing NC Fixed~
01:12:154 (3,4) - inconsistency spacing it's intentional for slight emphasis. The difference is so subtle it doesn't matter either way though,
01:18:482 (6,1) - more out space, for make better jump, because this placement look like is normal space Fixed~
I check last diff, look good for me, try add hitsound more because there lot missing to add whistle for be more consistency.
Pretty well this set map. Good job and good luck!

Muito Obrigado!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-24T15:14:11+00:00

Sorry for late check !!!!

Pereira006 wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Gameplay:

00:08:638 (1) - Nao devia por novo cor. Maioria outros partes nao fizeste por novo cor, entao isso tambem nao precisa. Certo
00:40:982 (4,1) - podia criar um novo salto porque no (1) tem voz bem alto e batido, logo isso faze sentir se criar nova salto, por exemplo no 00:36:997 (4,1) - isso é bom e outros paterno Eu tentei dar o maximo de distancia. acredito que agora esteja coerente com a patten sugerida
00:43:091 (5,1) - ^ mesmo acontece ^ Mesmo acontece
00:46:138 (1) - Tira NC
Está muito bom mas alguma dele parte precisa salto exemplo no 00:50:357 (5,1), 00:54:107 (4,1) e por ai fora. É nivel do Insane

Tentei distanciar todos o maximo possivel, acredito que agora realmente esteja no nivel do "insane" Obrigado Pereira !

Jona Meu amor my love

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Noya

56 posts

Joined April 2014

Noya 2016-11-07T04:10:30+00:00

Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now.

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.

[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that.
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ?

[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ?
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel?

[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer.

I can't find much on this either.

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties.
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent.
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ?

[Caffe's Neigh]

00:08:638 (4) - Move away or higher, it looks unappealing where it is now. 01:07:701 (1,2,3) - Looks better tho.
00:52:701 (1,2,3,4) - Blanket?

Hopefully something was helpful

Good luck!

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-11-07T23:21:35+00:00

Noya wrote:
Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now. nah the vocal is too strong

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.
[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that. it's unnecessary, and it ruins my 2 measure NC reasoning
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ? fixed slightly~
[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now. I don't see the advantage.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ? adjusted
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel? I'd rather they be symmetrical than parallel
[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer. Dude I am not changing that triangle

I can't find much on this either.
Hopefully something was helpful ye

Good luck!

Thanks for modding~!!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-11-07T23:28:09+00:00

Noya wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties. fixed !
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent. nah
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ? oh need be a jump her ;;
lol you are collabing me xd

thanks my collab

Good luck!

Eu so coloquei a tag mas mesmo assim

osu file format v14

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CaffeAmericano

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Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 2016-11-09T17:20:44+00:00

Noya wrote:
Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now.

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.
[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that.
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ?
[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ?
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel?
[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer.

I can't find much on this either.
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties.
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent.
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ?
[Caffe's Neigh]

00:08:638 (4) - Move away or higher, it looks unappealing where it is now. 01:07:701 (1,2,3) - Looks better tho. Looks fine to me
00:52:701 (1,2,3,4) - Blanket? Intetional
Hopefully something was helpful

Good luck!

Thanks for the mod!

Last edited by CaffeAmericano 2016-11-13T20:54:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-11-10T14:28:02+00:00

Caffe.
00:10:044 (3,4,5) - 간격이 상당히 가까워서 일관성에 어긋나네요. 이전 기준간격인 1.00x를 00:04:888 (4) 처럼 지켜주셔야 구조적 일관도가 더 높아질 것 같습니다.
00:15:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - 음악적으로 봤을 때 배경음이 사라지고 보컬 라인만 남게 된 중대한 변화가 생겼는데, 표현은 00:13:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)와 크게 다를 부분이 없네요. 음악의 변화를 다른 방식으로 포착해보시기 바랍니다. 이 경우에는 직전에 넓은 간격들을 자주 활용하셨기 때문에 갑작스러운 간격 감소가 음악과 잘 호응할것 같네요. 지금의 디자인은 음악을 잘 표현하고 있지 않습니다.
00:26:802 (2) - 01:41:802 (2) - 이 노트는 지우는게 표현하는 박자를 더 잘 강조할 것 같네요.
01:14:263 (1,2,3,4) - 기타 대응 파트를 생각해보면 점프가 음악에 비해 상당히 지나칩니다. 때문에 01:16:138 (4,5,6,7)의 강조도 잘 이루어지고 있지 않습니다.

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-10T14:46:19+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Caffe.
00:10:044 (3,4,5) - 간격이 상당히 가까워서 일관성에 어긋나네요. 이전 기준간격인 1.00x를 00:04:888 (4) 처럼 지켜주셔야 구조적 일관도가 더 높아질 것 같습니다.
00:15:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - 음악적으로 봤을 때 배경음이 사라지고 보컬 라인만 남게 된 중대한 변화가 생겼는데, 표현은 00:13:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)와 크게 다를 부분이 없네요. 음악의 변화를 다른 방식으로 포착해보시기 바랍니다. 이 경우에는 직전에 넓은 간격들을 자주 활용하셨기 때문에 갑작스러운 간격 감소가 음악과 잘 호응할것 같네요. 지금의 디자인은 음악을 잘 표현하고 있지 않습니다.
00:26:802 (2) - 01:41:802 (2) - 이 노트는 지우는게 표현하는 박자를 더 잘 강조할 것 같네요.
01:14:263 (1,2,3,4) - 기타 대응 파트를 생각해보면 점프가 음악에 비해 상당히 지나칩니다. 때문에 01:16:138 (4,5,6,7)의 강조도 잘 이루어지고 있지 않습니다.

Would it be alright if you looked at the other difficulties? :3

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2016-11-10T15:43:25+00:00

Not really sure for now.

btw you should seriously make the combo colors much brighter. They are way too dark along the BG right now to properly read the approach circle.

Jonarwhal

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Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T00:59:27+00:00

Backup for Advanced.

Blank Collab for Advanced.

~~Project will be marked WIP until Marianna finishes his collab.~~
Marianna is fast.

Hollow Delta

793 posts

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Hollow Delta 2016-11-12T02:41:06+00:00

From Discord doing M4M.

Easy

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/sfgUT/e122adcb14.png Some aiMod stuff. Might want to re-snap those notes.
00:25:513 (2) - This reverse slider doesn't make much sense. And it doesn't fit the intensity of the song. I recommend doing a different shape.
It's kinda big so I can't explain it very, but hopefully this will give you an idea: http://puu.sh/sfhbI/6428087b67.jpg 3 is just a copy-flip of 1, in case you can't tell.
It keeps the symmetrical structure while complimenting the rhythm better.
01:40:513 (2) - I can tell this is just a flip of the old structure, so I think it's easy to say that I think my same mod applies here as well.

Normal

SPOILER

aiMod is pointing out 1 snapping issue here. I know snapping isn't a requirement for Normal, but it's kinda odd to have 1 single note unsnapped, and not a pattern of notes, you know what I mean?
00:43:326 (1) - Any reason for this to not be lined up with 5 and 6? Because of the spacing, it would make sense to make these 3 notes into a triangle. and stack 2 on the head of 3 to make up for the spacing, but why did you choose to do this? I'll admit it flows easier the way you did it, but it still looks off to me.
01:23:169 (5,1) - I personally thing this change from rhythm to the vocals is very sudden. You could delete 1 and extend 5 so it's a 3/4 slider, and it ends on where 1 was, so the player has the ability to analyze the upcoming notes.

Hard

SPOILER

00:15:201 (1) - While I can see your reasoning for keep it at this angle, I think for the sake of symmetry and staying in theme, this is better perfectly horizontal rather than diagonal.
00:39:576 (1) - This 1/4 reverse sounds kinda awkward to me. I think it sounds better to extend this slider so it's a 1/2, because then it would line up with the song and if you move the notes after it to make room it'll line up better and get rid of this awkward spacing here: 00:39:576 (1) -
00:54:576 (1) - ^

Light-Insane

SPOILER

00:32:076 (1) - Personally I don't like the rhythm choice here. 00:32:779 - I think it's better if you replace this part with a hit circle, and then moving the next 2 sliders up to the next white ticks. You might need to adjust the shapes of 2 and 3 a bit so it looks structured, but I think this rhythm fits the song better.
00:42:388 (3,4,5) - I don't see very much circular flow in your pattern choices! I recommend blanketing 4 with 3, and then moving 5 where 4 was before.
00:53:638 (3,4) - For similar parts / patterns in a song, I recommend keeping the same degree of curvature with the sliders. It looks better in my opinion when you 'theme' your sliders.
01:03:013 (4,5) - These patterns caught me off guard only because they stuck out. Not visually, but while playing them I really FELT them. I suggest placing hitsounds on these considering the uniqueness.
01:33:013 (4) - The circle here feels awkward because it feels like a held note. I think a 1/4 slider fits better here because it makes sense with the upcoming 1/4 slider.

Neigh

SPOILER

00:18:482 (8) - While I like the streams, this note isn't justified. I think you should simply delete it as the spacing only makes it worse.
00:19:888 (6) - ^
00:56:216 (1) - I think 2 circles instead of a slider fits better, because it feels kinda awkward to hold then suddenly play a double.
01:33:482 (8) - Same as the first 2 mods.
While there is a lot of overmap in this, I see the justification. Everything else I though was very good. Flow, structure, rhythm choice. But the spots I pointed out don't have enough justification. It's hard to justify overmap, so it's very opinionated.

Good luck on the map.

Last edited by Hollow Delta 2016-11-12T20:01:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T16:26:41+00:00

Bubblun wrote:
From Discord doing M4M.

Easy
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/sfgUT/e122adcb14.png Some aiMod stuff. Might want to re-snap those notes. not really a problem since they're only .02 off, but fixed anyway to make AiMod stop complaining
00:25:513 (2) - This reverse slider doesn't make much sense. And it doesn't fit the intensity of the song. I recommend doing a different shape.
It's kinda big so I can't explain it very, but hopefully this will give you an idea: http://puu.sh/sfhbI/6428087b67.jpg 3 is just a copy-flip of 1, in case you can't tell.
It keeps the symmetrical structure while complimenting the rhythm better. there's plenty of emphasis on the red tick to make the reverse slider make sense, and also, applying your change would cause too many 1/1 patterns, which is bad imo
01:40:513 (2) - I can tell this is just a flip of the old structure, so I think it's easy to say that I think my same mod applies here as well. ^

Normal
SPOILER
aiMod is pointing out 1 snapping issue here. I know snapping isn't a requirement for Normal, but it's kinda odd to have 1 single note unsnapped, and not a pattern of notes, you know what I mean? Usually yes, but you can actually make exceptions for snapping if the objects are far apart enough. Since these objects are 3/1 apart, following snapping for that would mean placing them very far apart, and in some cases this means squishing it into the corner of the map. To prevent this, the mapper is allowed to make an exception for the snapping, and it plays just fine. Also, snapping this pattern would ruin the symmetry.
00:43:326 (1) - Any reason for this to not be lined up with 5 and 6? Because of the spacing, it would make sense to make these 3 notes into a triangle. and stack 2 on the head of 3 to make up for the spacing, but why did you choose to do this? I'll admit it flows easier the way you did it, but it still looks off to me. I did it to allow for symmetry 00:43:794 (2,3) - here. Also, that would not flow better. It would be a more predictable pattern, but it would not flow better. In Normal/Easy, more narrow angles make the flow worse, not better.
01:23:169 (5,1) - I personally thing this change from rhythm to the vocals is very sudden. You could delete 1 and extend 5 so it's a 3/4 slider, and it ends on where 1 was, so the player has the ability to analyze the upcoming notes. It will be fine for a Normal player to play this rhythm. It's just a 1/2 tap, that's no big deal in Normal. It happens a lot. I don't want to make (5) a 3/4 slider because then it doesn't do a good job emphasizing 01:24:107 - this beat.

Hard
SPOILER
00:15:201 (1) - While I can see your reasoning for keep it at this angle, I think for the sake of symmetry and staying in theme, this is better perfectly horizontal rather than diagonal. Agreed. Fixed~
00:39:576 (1) - This 1/4 reverse sounds kinda awkward to me. I think it sounds better to extend this slider so it's a 1/2, because then it would line up with the song and if you move the notes after it to make room it'll line up better and get rid of this awkward spacing here: 00:39:576 (1) - I could, but I think the 1/4 is fine to play since the player barely moves for it anyway lol. It prepares the player for the stationary pattern coming on the other side symmetrically 00:40:279 (3,4) - here. Idk how to change it without breaking symmetry and removing the break 00:40:279 (3,4) - there.
00:54:576 (1) - ^ I changed this part slightly after realizing that I used the same pattern twice. As for applying your suggestion there, no change.

Light-Insane
00:32:076 (1) - I'll look at this in a minute.

Thank you for modding!!

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T16:38:35+00:00

[Mod for Marianna]

00:33:951 (1) - This would flow better like this:
~
00:34:419 (2,3) - make the blanket better
00:37:232 (3,1,2) - To avoid the overlap, do this:
~
00:47:544 (2,3) - You have to make the rhythm here more similar to the rhythm 00:32:779 (2,3,4) - here. Just using one circle 00:48:482 (3) - here is too Easy for an Advanced difficulty.
00:53:638 (3,4,1) - make the blankets better
00:55:279 (2,3,1) - fix the symmetry
01:38:638 (3,1) - make the blanket better
01:41:451 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetry
01:44:732 - add a circle here

I like your collab sections a lot.
I hope I helped you.

Script

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Joined November 2013

Script 2016-11-12T19:43:40+00:00

here from modding queue

since I'm garbage I pretty much only have really nitpicky blanket mods

I realized after I wrote everything out that blankets dont have to be 100% exact, but i might as well post them in case they're of any use

if anything, focus on fixing the ones where you have two sliders blanketing each other

Easy

00:04:419 (4) - end blanket is a bit off
00:06:294 (2) -
00:11:919 (4) -
00:24:576 (1) -
00:35:826 (1) -
00:37:466 (3) -
00:39:576 (1,2) - both blankets are off
00:42:388 (4) -
00:48:013 (2) -
00:57:388 (4) -
01:02:544 (6) - move slider end point up 1
01:04:419 (8,2) -
01:04:419 (8,1) -
01:17:076 (1,2) - both blankets are off
01:25:279 (2) -
01:28:560 (1) -
01:34:888 (4) -
01:34:419 (3) - both are off

Normal

00:08:169 (5) -
00:11:919 (5) -
00:25:513 (3,4) - both blankets are off
00:26:451 (4) -
00:40:279 (2,4) -
00:35:826 (1) - adjust slider end point
00:39:576 (1,3) -
00:40:279 (2,4) -
00:44:029 (3) - end blanket
00:48:013 (3) -
00:50:826 (1) -
01:15:201 (3) -
01:33:951 (3) -
01:44:263 (2) - slider end just a bit off

Hard

00:12:857 (5,6,1,2) - I think it plays better if all arranged in a straight line

Caffe's Neigh

01:17:076 (1) - to be consistent with the other slider-circle-slider's in this section I would point this towards the circle

imo ar could also scale better, right now there is a large star difference between light insane and last diff and they both have the same ar, and the ar difference between normal and advanced is too high

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T21:08:21+00:00

@HazeTrance
I fixed all the balnkets as best as I could. Thanks for modding.

Xayler

628 posts

Joined November 2013

Xayler 2016-11-13T01:47:22+00:00

M4M

General
No 192kbit/s version mp3 available?
BG size can be now 1920x1080. (just mentioning it)

Easy
00:29:966 - This sound is really bothering me. Well you don't map 1/2 in Easy but imo this sound needs something clickable.

Normal
00:29:966 - Same as in Easy. As it's Normal then I'd add something here.
Nothing much to really add in the easier diffs as they are clean...

MariWaga's Advanced
00:21:763 (3) - I'd make this as a linear slider as it has better flow and blends in with the linear sliders.
00:23:521 (3) - Is this really allowed in this difficulty? I wouldn't add such complex rhythm here. Since 00:22:935 (2,3,4) - this is really absurd for me.
00:33:951 (1,2,3) - This is not playing that well together since the movement from (2) to (3) is bad imo.
00:53:638 (3,4) - What about curving them more to have a nicer blanket with 00:54:576 (1) - ?
01:27:154 (3) - This slider breaks the good flow here imo. Maybe make it linear as 01:26:216 (1) - ?
01:44:732 - Add a circle?

Hard
00:36:997 (4,5,1) - The flow to (1) isn't that good. Maybe ctrl+g (1)?
01:05:357 (5,6,1) - I don't understand the spacing here as you use earlier much lower spacing although nothing really changed.

Ataraxia's Light Insane
Nothing to mention... since I'm not really an expert in complex mapping.

Caffe's Neigh
00:17:076 (1) - Since it's damn high in notes intensity here I'd recommend to use NC at the middle white tick also.
00:29:497 (6,7) - They don't play that well, I'd recommend to place the (7) to here instead: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6555413
00:37:466 (4,1) - The flow to (1) is really bad imo. I'd move the (1) like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6555429
00:50:357 (6,1) - Bad flow again. I'd make the (6) as a linear slider. Like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6555446
01:14:263 (1,2,3,4,1) - That's a bit too much spacing, don't overmap like this. >.>
01:16:138 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^ Here it fits a bit better though so here I'd reduce by a little only.
01:39:107 (7,8,1) - Avoid these overlaps please.

Nice set anyways, my mod may not be that useful as I'm damn tired so good luck!

CaffeAmericano

615 posts

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CaffeAmericano 2016-11-13T21:02:51+00:00

@SonnyC 전부 수정 했습니다

Bubblun wrote:
From Discord doing M4M.
Neigh
SPOILER
00:18:482 (8) - While I like the streams, this note isn't justified. I think you should simply delete it as the spacing only makes it worse. mapped to drum
00:19:888 (6) - ^
00:56:216 (1) - I think 2 circles instead of a slider fits better, because it feels kinda awkward to hold then suddenly play a double. I don't think this rhythm is unusual
01:33:482 (8) - Same as the first 2 mods.
While there is a lot of overmap in this, I see the justification. Everything else I though was very good. Flow, structure, rhythm choice. But the spots I pointed out don't have enough justification. It's hard to justify overmap, so it's very opinionated.

Good luck on the map.

@HazeTrance I think slider pointing in the general direction of next circle fits the design scheme well enough

Xayler wrote:
M4M

Caffe's Neigh
00:17:076 (1) - Since it's damn high in notes intensity here I'd recommend to use NC at the middle white tick also. I think that'd work but I prefer to keep NC to downbeat for the msot part
00:37:466 (4,1) - The flow to (1) is really bad imo. I'd move the (1) like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6555429 flow is intentionally awkward for downbeat emphasis
00:50:357 (6,1) - Bad flow again. I'd make the (6) as a linear slider. Like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6555446 Again for downbeat. I think in terms of curosr movement, making 6 straight does nothing for the player either...
01:39:107 (7,8,1) - Avoid these overlaps please. I think overlaps are fine because they make up coherent pattern but improved overlapping area bit

Nice set anyways, my mod may not be that useful as I'm damn tired so good luck!

Deleted = fixed

Thank you for the mod <3

ne ne

osu file format v14

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Marianna

1,392 posts

Joined July 2015

Marianna 2016-11-14T22:33:39+00:00

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Marianna

1,392 posts

Joined July 2015

Marianna 2016-11-14T22:34:05+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
[Mod for Marianna]
00:33:951 (1) - This would flow better like this: fixed
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00:34:419 (2,3) - make the blanket better Fixed i think
00:37:232 (3,1,2) - To avoid the overlap, do this: Fixed
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00:47:544 (2,3) - You have to make the rhythm here more similar to the rhythm 00:32:779 (2,3,4) - here. Just using one circle 00:48:482 (3) - here is too Easy for an Advanced difficulty. [/color]
00:53:638 (3,4,1) - make the blankets better Fixed
00:55:279 (2,3,1) - fix the symmetry I do not think I need a perfect symmetry but, fixed i hope
01:38:638 (3,1) - make the blanket better
01:41:451 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetry
01:44:732 - add a circle here
Fixed
I like your collab sections a lot.
I hope I helped you.

@Xalyer Fixed the same of @Jonawaga's mod

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256,304,42857,1,2,0:0:0:0:
164,152,43326,6,0,L|16:132,1,146.999995513916,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
32,220,44029,2,0,L|177:239,1,146.999995513916,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,196,44732,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,316,45201,6,0,P|421:320|500:252,1,146.999995513916,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
412,232,45904,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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296,164,47076,6,0,B|260:152|260:152|224:164,1,73.4999977569581,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,236,47544,2,0,P|136:172|160:104,1,146.999995513916,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,56,48482,1,2,0:0:0:0:
380,124,48716,1,0,0:0:0:0:
436,192,48951,6,0,L|424:340,2,146.999995513916,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,140,50122,2,0,P|328:132|288:140,1,73.4999977569581,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,248,50826,6,0,P|84:232|44:172,1,146.999995513916,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,100,51529,2,0,P|168:116|208:176,1,146.999995513916,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,248,52232,1,2,0:0:0:0:
324,192,52466,6,0,B|384:192|384:192|424:192|460:228,1,146.999995513916,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,300,53169,2,0,L|332:300,1,73.4999977569581,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,53638,2,0,P|220:356|184:352,1,73.4999977569581
212,268,54107,2,0,P|183:242|169:209,1,73.4999977569581,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,54576,6,0,P|272:124|344:88,1,146.999995513916,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,148,55279,2,0,P|388:216|316:252,1,146.999995513916
256,308,55982,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,252,56216,6,0,B|128:228|128:228|44:228,1,146.999995513916
40,140,56919,2,0,L|116:140,1,73.4999977569581,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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464,208,58326,6,0,B|396:180|396:180|324:208,1,146.999995513916,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,256,59029,2,0,L|308:116,2,146.999995513916,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,352,60435,6,0,P|59:325|41:303,1,73.4999977569581,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,224,60904,2,0,P|51:170|68:148,1,73.4999977569581,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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161,158,62779,1,0,0:0:0:0:
202,65,63013,2,0,P|120:62|66:123,1,167.999994873047,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
20,216,63716,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,312,63951,6,0,B|124:348|124:348|200:312,1,167.999994873047,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,228,64654,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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494,240,65591,1,0,0:0:0:0:
427,317,65826,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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80,304,68404,2,0,B|24:248|168:192|24:144|88:64,1,251.999992309571,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
176,112,69341,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,48,69576,6,0,P|279:113|225:204,1,167.999994873047,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
158,261,70279,1,0,0:0:0:0:
254,298,70513,2,0,P|209:350|103:349,1,167.999994873047,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,276,71216,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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511,224,73326,5,0,0:0:0:0:
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452,136,78013,2,0,B|416:216|484:220|448:300,1,167.999994873047,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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136,184,104497,1,0,0:0:0:0:
56,216,104732,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,104966,12,0,106841,0:0:0:0:

Now my mod

General

Excessive claps make music very annoying
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Easy

00:02:076 (1,2) - I think this beginning does not have a good flow, it's advisable to do something more "open", like this
00:21:763 (2,3) - 01:36:763 (2,3) - Another bad flow, try this
00:35:826 (1,2,3) - 00:39:576 (1,2) - 00:50:826 (1,2,3) - 00:58:326 (1,2,3) - I think your choice to follow the vocals was not very good, this can be very difficult for beginners, since most of the map is 1/1, 00:54:576 (1,2) - i think this is great
01:24:341 (1,2,3,4) - This is not good for beginners, 01:24:107 - This break is what makes everything harder

Normal

00:25:044 (2,3) - 00:27:388 (5,1) - The flow is not good here
01:13:326 (1,2,3,4) - This becomes a bit excessive in 1/1

Advanced

00:07:232 - 00:14:732 - Dont ignore this please
00:18:013 (3,1,2) - Bad flow

Hard

00:14:732 (5,1) - Really bad flow
00:21:763 (4) - Use 1/2 here please
00:34:419 (2,3) - Actually this jump is not necessary and it broke all the flow
00:47:076 (1) - I do not think I need all this complication in the slider, it would be difficult to play with DT after
00:54:576 (1) - This is not where 1/4 is needed, it's here 00:54:810 -
01:29:497 - I think this serious hitsound is not necessary here

Insane

Sorry but, PLEASE REMOVE THIS DIFF, It is really unnecessary and pollute the whole song

Nowaie

1,021 posts

Joined December 2014

Nowaie 2016-11-25T22:16:16+00:00

M4M from your queue
My map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472890

Mari & Waga

00:07:701 (1,2) - The structure here is kinda bad. Unlinke on other occasions like here 00:11:451 (1,2,3) - the structure can not to be justified as a "part of a pattern" thus leaving an awkward looking "bump". I would suggest just improving it by changing the flow over the slider1|slider2. Pretty much so the curve of 1 would be sort of continued by the 2 either circularly or straightly http://puu.sh/su1OL/ea075704f9.png

00:23:755 - I know that you have left "vocals" unmapped before in the difficulty but this one unlike the others stands out because right before it ( 00:23:521 (3) - ) you have mapped specifically a similiar vocal under a clickable. I'd suggest to removing the 3 and mapping for example to the drums or add the note. Slider wouldn't really work because one of them would be a clickable and other one a sliderend thus making similiar sounds inequal

00:54:576 (1) - Personal opinion. You could have this slider little bit less curved so it would continue the syle of these two 00:53:638 (3,4) - sliders https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6653728. You most likely have other intentions or reasons like it starts a new pattern/combo or something and it should be just fine like it's now but as i said before it's my opinion

01:01:372 - I would suggest something like this http://puu.sh/su530/4c88d41156.jpg. It would get rid of the inequality issue having this 01:01:372 - as a clickable and this 01:01:607 - as a sliderend even though they are pretty much same and on top of that you would have the less noticeable note here 01:01:841 - mapped. If you disagree though atleast get rid of the inherited point here 01:01:841 - as it does not affect any notes currently

01:08:404 (2) - This slider just does not look clean or well thoughy about imo because the first curve is much sharper than the other one. Strongly suggesting you to fix it or atleast giving an explonation to the weird shape

01:32:076 (1,2) - These could be parallel (Rotate the 2 by 5 degrees CCW selection centre) but it should be fine like it's currently

Hard

00:05:357 (6) - So why is this mapped as a 1/2 slider? You have mapped every other "nee" as two hitcircles so what makes this one different when compared to pretty much any other "nee" in the difficulty (with 2 expections in the kiai 01:02:544 (3) - 01:18:482 (6) - which should be fixed imo aswell)

Another thing i'm really curious about is spacing like this 00:05:357 (6,1) - . Honestly i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.2x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell? Another question on top of that ; Why does this 00:05:826 (1) - note need more emphasis than for example this 00:04:888 (4) - one? They are mapped practically on a similiar sound with the only difference that the other one is placed on a big white tick

00:34:419 (2,3) - Imo you could have achieved alot more from this pattern because for example right now the flow does not work with the current slider shapes when placed like that. If you want to keep the shapes somewhat similiar you could try something like this 00:30:201 (1,2,3) - for example

01:01:841 - Similiar kind of suggestion as in advanced. This less noticeable drum hit should atleast be mapped under a slidertail. Again if you disagree with this atleast remove the inherited point because it does not affect any notes

On top of the mystically increased spacing (see the rant for these 00:05:357 (6,1) - ) there is this one 01:05:357 (5,6) - . So what is your reason for a 2.5x space for two beats that for you are usually using ~1.2x DS? (You are using 1.2x even in the same combo 01:04:419 (2,3) - ) I'm just so confused :<

Ataraxia

00:02:779 (3,4) - Similiar issue as in Hard. You may have a differing point of view for this kind of patterns so ; i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.1x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell?

00:17:544 (3,4,5) - Unlike every other pattern containing hitcircles on 1/4s (one way or another) you have spaced these differently when compared to the other "normal" patterns like 00:18:365 (6,7) - . People should be able to abuse slider leniency but it's visually different enough to stand out. I'd want to hear your explonation on this

00:43:326 (1) - You could improve the shape of this slider overall because it just looks a weird wave where the first side is quite dull when compared to the other side. Currently, i assume, you have tried to make a S shape out of this slider so you could try to arrange the followpoints like this http://puu.sh/suda0/cf411cfc56.jpg

01:38:521 (4) - I would personally prefer to have this slider as two hitcircles because the both points of the slider represent a similiar sound and it doesn't really feel right to me to have the other one not as an active note when the other one is

Caffe

OD is pretty high when compared to the light insane

00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - You can have your spiral streams but i can not understand the logic behind this. It's not visually flowing with anything and it does not really synergize with anything either. It just leaves me thinking why is it there. Could you answer and help me understand the reasoning why that kind of a shape would be justified? I would personally just lower the ds to be somewhat like this http://puu.sh/suiqU/b59bdcac78.jpg but you may have your own intentions for it so i don't want to push that too much

00:41:919 (4) - I honestly would not expect something like this. Naturally the next object would be roughly at x216|y117 to form a triangle with these objects 00:41:216 (7,1,2,3) - because you already made a geometrical pattern right before the thing i'm suggesting you to fix ( 00:40:747 (5,6,7) - )

00:57:857 (7,8,1) - For this one i would not prefer pattern choices like this one personally as the pattern pretty much loses the potential it could've had due to the poor flow and that is mostly because of the shape of the 1. I would suggest you to overhaul it so it would just work one way or another like for example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6656489 but i hope you could come up with something by yourself. It's your map after all isn't it?

The kiai is amazingly mapped, well done!

Great tunes and mapping. That is the way to go

Best of luck to you guys though i am confident that you will get this ranked eventually

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-11-28T00:03:03+00:00

DTM9 Nowa wrote:
M4M from your queue
My map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/472890

Mari & Waga
00:07:701 (1,2) - The structure here is kinda bad. Unlinke on other occasions like here 00:11:451 (1,2,3) - the structure can not to be justified as a "part of a pattern" thus leaving an awkward looking "bump". I would suggest just improving it by changing the flow over the slider1|slider2. Pretty much so the curve of 1 would be sort of continued by the 2 either circularly or straightly http://puu.sh/su1OL/ea075704f9.png Fixed with a previous (Marianna's) mod

00:23:755 - I know that you have left "vocals" unmapped before in the difficulty but this one unlike the others stands out because right before it ( 00:23:521 (3) - ) you have mapped specifically a similiar vocal under a clickable. I'd suggest to removing the 3 and mapping for example to the drums or add the note. Slider wouldn't really work because one of them would be a clickable and other one a sliderend thus making similiar sounds inequal Fixed with a previous (Xayler's) mod

00:54:576 (1) - Personal opinion. You could have this slider little bit less curved so it would continue the syle of these two 00:53:638 (3,4) - sliders https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6653728. You most likely have other intentions or reasons like it starts a new pattern/combo or something and it should be just fine like it's now but as i said before it's my opinion pending marianna

01:01:372 - I would suggest something like this http://puu.sh/su530/4c88d41156.jpg. It would get rid of the inequality issue having this 01:01:372 - as a clickable and this 01:01:607 - as a sliderend even though they are pretty much same and on top of that you would have the less noticeable note here 01:01:841 - mapped. If you disagree though atleast get rid of the inherited point here 01:01:841 - as it does not affect any notes currently pending marianna

01:08:404 (2) - This slider just does not look clean or well thoughy about imo because the first curve is much sharper than the other one. Strongly suggesting you to fix it or atleast giving an explonation to the weird shape it's not causing a problem

01:32:076 (1,2) - These could be parallel (Rotate the 2 by 5 degrees CCW selection centre) but it should be fine like it's currently pending marianna

Hard
00:05:357 (6) - So why is this mapped as a 1/2 slider? You have mapped every other "nee" as two hitcircles so what makes this one different when compared to pretty much any other "nee" in the difficulty (with 2 expections in the kiai 01:02:544 (3) - 01:18:482 (6) - which should be fixed imo aswell) You have the right idea, but a difference of 1 1/2 slider and 2 1/2 circles is too minor to be a problem.

Another thing i'm really curious about is spacing like this 00:05:357 (6,1) - . Honestly i can not think about anything that would even remotely need that much emphasis when compared to the common spacing used there (~1.2x) i mean there isn't really anything to justify this kind of spacing overall. No cymbal hits, no other stronger sounds, no intensity changes, nothing. So could you open your idea here so the usage of this kind of patterns would make sense to me aswell? Another question on top of that ; Why does this 00:05:826 (1) - note need more emphasis than for example this 00:04:888 (4) - one? They are mapped practically on a similiar sound with the only difference that the other one is placed on a big white tick Fixed!

00:34:419 (2,3) - Imo you could have achieved alot more from this pattern because for example right now the flow does not work with the current slider shapes when placed like that. If you want to keep the shapes somewhat similiar you could try something like this 00:30:201 (1,2,3) - for example fixed with a previous (Marianna's) mod~

01:01:841 - Similiar kind of suggestion as in advanced. This less noticeable drum hit should atleast be mapped under a slidertail. Again if you disagree with this atleast remove the inherited point because it does not affect any notes fixed~

On top of the mystically increased spacing (see the rant for these 00:05:357 (6,1) - ) there is this one 01:05:357 (5,6) - . So what is your reason for a 2.5x space for two beats that for you are usually using ~1.2x DS? (You are using 1.2x even in the same combo 01:04:419 (2,3) - ) I'm just so confused :< Fixed with a previous (Xayler's) mod~

Great tunes and mapping. That is the way to go

Best of luck to you guys though i am confident that you will get this ranked eventually Your explanations are very satisfying! I would recommend you take your mod out of boxes because they can make you mod harder to see and can make you seem less confident. Writing exaplanations like that is a god habit to get into, so keep that up! And, thanks for modding.

I lost my other mod replies, RIP.
Basically, the picture, video, and .mp3 file are all being fixed. Some flow stuff was intentional and denied, but a lot of it was accepted. Good job all of you!

Cosmolade

1,289 posts

Joined December 2012

Cosmolade 2016-12-22T22:16:55+00:00

Hey! M4M as req >w<
yuush I love Perfume♥

[General]
Nothing to say o3o

[Easy]

01:01:361 (4) - This note will be confuse D: I loose combo here in the first test lol I suggest follow the simple sound, and dont mind to map the red tick here, is better for a easy >_<
I suggest this pattern from > 01:00:424 -. to > 01:06:283 .-, because start with a slider in - 01:00:424 .- is really more readable (obviously, with the same DS, now I notice I have more DS lol and the pattern look a bit different, but I think you got the idea xD)
SPOILER

----
Only this for the easy, I really like it!

[Normal]
I cant' see anything bad in the normal, good job owo)b

[MariWaga's Advanced]
Very clear diff, so nice!

01:10:502 (3) - Ctrl+G the slider for make a better flow in this part, and next, stack (2) with (4) for keep the DS consistency (and btw, why you have a high DS in the kia? I know it is for emphasis, but I see 1,2x too much, but not at all... you can use -0.1x (I mean 1,1x) and it will look more pretty and more neat >_<
01:44:721 - All the other diffs have a note here (a circle, or a slider tail) why not here?

[Hard]

00:09:096 (5,1) - Make them with the same slidershape, for make a mirror pattern (I like the shape of (5) more)
00:35:346 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this two in the same time, and next Ctrl+G only (4) It makes a really good pattern, and for the strong beats, the jumps here are fine, and for the high DS, you can move the pattern and make a stack from the slider tail of (2), it makes a smooth and a nice circle movement of the cursor, I like it!
SPOILER
The rest for me is fine >w<

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

00:21:283 (3,4) - The slider (4) dont follow a sound D: I suggest make a slider in the blue tick, and end it in the red
SPOILER
01:00:893 (3) - The slidertail have so much strong sound for not make it clickeable, I suggest delete the slider, and add a note in the red tick, and another one in the white tick ( and for the extra note (4), you can put it in (1) slidetail (and move (5,6) to x216 y52 ) for a triangle jump?
01:09:565 (1) - Ctrl+G for a better/circular flow

You told me to not mod the last diff, so...
That's all!
I hope I have been helpful
GL!

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-12-22T23:22:33+00:00

Cosmolade wrote:
Hey! M4M as req >w< Hey, Cosmolade! o/
yuush I love Perfume♥

[General]
Nothing to say o3o

[Easy]
01:01:361 (4) - This note will be confuse D: I loose combo here in the first test lol I suggest follow the simple sound, and dont mind to map the red tick here, is better for a easy >_<
I suggest this pattern from > 01:00:424 -. to > 01:06:283 .-, because start with a slider in - 01:00:424 .- is really more readable (obviously, with the same DS, now I notice I have more DS lol and the pattern look a bit different, but I think you got the idea xD)
SPOILER

----
Only this for the easy, I really like it! All fixed and thanks :3

[Normal]
I cant' see anything bad in the normal, good job owo)b

[MariWaga's Advanced]
Very clear diff, so nice!
01:10:502 (3) - Ctrl+G the slider for make a better flow in this part, and next, stack (2) with (4) for keep the DS consistency (and btw, why you have a high DS in the kia? I know it is for emphasis, but I see 1,2x too much, but not at all... you can use -0.1x (I mean 1,1x) and it will look more pretty and more neat >_< Fixed~
01:44:721 - All the other diffs have a note here (a circle, or a slider tail) why not here? Pending Marianna
[Hard]
00:09:096 (5,1) - Make them with the same slidershape, for make a mirror pattern (I like the shape of (5) more)
00:35:346 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this two in the same time, and next Ctrl+G only (4) It makes a really good pattern, and for the strong beats, the jumps here are fine, and for the high DS, you can move the pattern and make a stack from the slider tail of (2), it makes a smooth and a nice circle movement of the cursor, I like it!
SPOILER
The rest for me is fine >w< fixed all~
You told me to not mod the last diff, so...
That's all!
I hope I have been helpful yes, yes you are helpful
GL!

Thanks for modding~

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-12-23T00:03:43+00:00

for randon reason, i will reply this mod in portuguese! (google translate this rs)

Cosmolade wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
00:21:283 (3,4) - The slider (4) dont follow a sound D: I suggest make a slider in the blue tick, and end it in the red
SPOILER
dei um jeito e fiz outra coisa que parece legal
01:00:893 (3) - The slidertail have so much strong sound for not make it clickeable, I suggest delete the slider, and add a note in the red tick, and another
one in the white tick ( and for the extra note (4), you can put it in (1) slidetail (and move (5,6) to x216 y52 ) for a triangle jump?
Magnifico !brilhante ideia seu lindo

01:09:565 (1) - Ctrl+G for a better/circular flow olha num 3 star achei isso tipo um tiro bem forte mas nem ligo coloquei mesmo assim rsrsrsrs

VALEU(THANKS)

edit: i miss the code HAHAHAHA

Jonny é lindo

osu file format v14

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Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-12-23T03:02:06+00:00

Important note:

in have applied somethings in Bubblun mod, but in don't remember such thing in fixed, ist a old mod that in really don't remember , but i have fixed the things, in remember yes.

Just this owo

Noffy

Nomination Assessment Team

1,659 posts

Joined April 2012

Noffy 2017-05-01T01:56:58+00:00

Jonawagawaga requested I mod this so i am here

Ultra in depth long mod as requested on this terrible set

(No not really it looks pretty snazzy to me I don't have much to say)
(because I <3 this map)

[General]

The hitsounding in this entire set is really empty.. like you were following the drums, but only half of them o.o
Uhhh.. that's really weird. The video file works for me in osu, but will not play in any of my media players. It skips to the end like part of it got corrupted. I am concerned about compatability with different user's computers. (I was trying to open it to double check whether it still had audio in it or not)

[Easy]

00:10:033 (2) - Is there a particular reason this wave is curvier on the right side? ( 00:30:190 (3) - look at this one it's so even and cute)
01:10:033 (2) - ^ Same question here for this copypastedone
00:24:565 (1,2) - jon these aren't perfectly symmetrical who are you

[Normal]

00:11:440 (4,5) - Why are these stacked when 00:03:940 (4,5) - weren't :'c
00:29:252 (2) - The rotation of this slider felt out of place when it's not balanced horizontally like the two sliders preceding it.. (or the majority of the angled sliders in this diff!!) imagine
00:56:440 (4) - Up until now you had been mapping the red tick before every other bar.. but then here you just.. don't? It feels late and unexpectedly so, making it easy to miss.
01:23:158 (5,1) - I think the positioning of one perfectly to the left makes this awkard to play, as the flow for 5 doesn't lead into it at all, AND because it's one of the rare-lone-circle-1/2-after-a-slider objects. possiburu idea

[MariWaga's Advanced]

00:29:955 (1) - Consider making this slider pink for breast cancer awareness
Actually my real suggestion here is modifying it along these lines so that it has a clean teardrop shap in the center! this way the inner curve looks smoooothee

[Hard]

00:15:190 (1) - Asymmetrical slider spotted hello there, mr. slider, you are a criminal offense in jonawaga ultra symmetry mapping tm.
00:25:268 (4,5) - These aren't perfectly stacked. Please fix. Yes, it does affect autostacking.
00:34:877 (3) - Consider adjusting this to be as curvy as the two sliders right before and after it? Because 00:34:877 (3,4) - this blanket looks borked.
00:54:565 (1) - Consider making this parallel with 00:54:096 (4) - as right now 00:54:565 (1,2,3) - looks heavier on the left side due to 1 trying to get snuggly with 2.

[Caffe's Neigh]

Consider getting an image of a horse to use as the background for this difficulty?

01:00:424 (1) - what is this slider. How about making it have its humps be friendly and even instead? It.. looks kind of like a turd right now..

I checked Ataraxia's difficulty as well, but didn't have anything to say!
Entire set is pretty nice, good luck Jonawagawaga owo

(but SERIOUSLY check with LOTS of people to make sure the video works for them, I for one am very concerned!!)

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2017-05-01T02:38:08+00:00

Noffy wrote:
Jonawagawaga requested I mod this so i am here

Ultra in depth long mod as requested on this terrible set

(No not really it looks pretty snazzy to me I don't have much to say)
(because I <3 this map)

[General]
The hitsounding in this entire set is really empty.. like you were following the drums, but only half of them o.o suggestions on how to fix?
Uhhh.. that's really weird. The video file works for me in osu, but will not play in any of my media players. It skips to the end like part of it got corrupted. I am concerned about compatability with different user's computers. (I was trying to open it to double check whether it still had audio in it or not) will do...
[Easy]
00:10:033 (2) - Is there a particular reason this wave is curvier on the right side? ( 00:30:190 (3) - look at this one it's so even and cute) fixed
01:10:033 (2) - ^ Same question here for this copypastedone fixed
00:24:565 (1,2) - jon these aren't perfectly symmetrical who are you it's a different rhythm right?
[Normal]
00:11:440 (4,5) - Why are these stacked when 00:03:940 (4,5) - weren't :'c fixed
00:29:252 (2) - The rotation of this slider felt out of place when it's not balanced horizontally like the two sliders preceding it.. (or the majority of the angled sliders in this diff!!) imagine fixed
00:56:440 (4) - Up until now you had been mapping the red tick before every other bar.. but then here you just.. don't? It feels late and unexpectedly so, making it easy to miss.
01:23:158 (5,1) - I think the positioning of one perfectly to the left makes this awkard to play, as the flow for 5 doesn't lead into it at all, AND because it's one of the rare-lone-circle-1/2-after-a-slider objects. possiburu idea
[MariWaga's Advanced]
00:29:955 (1) - Consider making this slider pink for breast cancer awareness
Actually my real suggestion here is modifying it along these lines so that it has a clean teardrop shap in the center! this way the inner curve looks smoooothee
[Hard]
00:15:190 (1) - Asymmetrical slider spotted hello there, mr. slider, you are a criminal offense in jonawaga ultra symmetry mapping tm.
00:25:268 (4,5) - These aren't perfectly stacked. Please fix. Yes, it does affect autostacking.
00:34:877 (3) - Consider adjusting this to be as curvy as the two sliders right before and after it? Because 00:34:877 (3,4) - this blanket looks borked.
00:54:565 (1) - Consider making this parallel with 00:54:096 (4) - as right now 00:54:565 (1,2,3) - looks heavier on the left side due to 1 trying to get snuggly with 2.
I checked Ataraxia's difficulty as well, but didn't have anything to say!
Entire set is pretty nice, good luck Jonawagawaga owo

(but SERIOUSLY check with LOTS of people to make sure the video works for them, I for one am very concerned!!)

blank = fixed

tysm

Mafumafu

Beatmap Nominator

3,367 posts

Joined August 2013

Mafumafu 2017-05-09T15:00:20+00:00

[Easy]
AR+2
You need to use claps (add an additional one, not the current soft-clap because it is too soft for these places) for 00:34:877 (3) - slider-ends, like what you did in Kiai. You need to address this hitsounding issue for all the difficulties! <3

00:25:502 (2) - This rhythm is really weird and off-place. Use normal 1/1 2/1 scheme here please.

01:00:424 (4) - If you are trying to keep this long slider, the very strong beat at 01:00:658 will be skipped, which is not really nice. So you may try to map that out instead.

[Normal]
00:40:971 (4,5,6) - Spacing needs to be kept consistent here

01:01:361 (5) - NC

01:31:361 (4) - NC

[Advanced]
AR7 seems a bit too high. AR6 fits better.

00:18:002 (3) - This rhythm of 3/4 is quite weird tbh.

00:21:752 (3) - "Irrational" extended slider. Just use 1/2 rhythm instead.

00:22:924 (2,4) - Not a good idea of stacking. This leads to complexity and difficulty in reading.

00:54:096 (4,1) - Blanket.

01:01:361 (3) - Two singletaps will be better i guess, since the two beats at 01:01:361 (3) - is way stronger than 01:00:424 (1,2) - .

01:08:393 (2) - Not a good shape. Maybe this is the shape of 2013 but not now.

01:32:065 (1) - 00:17:065 (1) - Keep the rhythm consistent across these two sections. Tho I think latter is the better.

01:44:721 You missed a note here.

[Hard]
Actually this diff has almost no differences from its previous diff. Just more 1/2s and several 1/4s could be found in this. And the rhythm throught the diff is approximately the same as its previous one.
Additionally I dont see the meaning of this diff. From star difficulty 1.2 - 2.8 you used 4 diffs to do that. The spread is really redundant, tbh. If there are variations then it's probably okay but sadly those difficulties resemble each other, which is not an exciting thing to figure out.

Removing this diff is an optional choice.

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
First I want to know how you arrange the spacing throughout the entire diff. Some spacings are really questionable, like 00:03:705 (6,1) - 00:32:065 (1,2) -
00:35:346 (5,6,1,2,3) - etc. At least I dont understand how you made this spacing.

00:17:065 (1) - The rhythm of this part is messed up. I dont know which track you are following. There are some questionable rhythms like 00:25:854 (4,1) - .

[Caffe's Neigh]
OD-1 SUch high OD makes no sense.
00:04:408 (3,4) - Jump <3
00:26:791 (2) - Remove. (Overmapped)
00:31:830 (3,1) - Should owns larger spacing than 00:31:596 (2,3) - because of stonger beat.
00:39:682 (2) - Remove (This 1/4 notes does not match with the long vocal well)
00:41:557 (2) - ^
00:48:705 (1) - Not a good idea to place a strong beat on a slider-end. Also the 1/4 is not matching with the music well. 00:56:205 (1,2,3) - Same
00:52:807 (2) - Remove.
00:53:627 (5,6) - Ought to have a larger spacing here.
01:00:424 (1,2,3) - Some strong beats are placed on slider-ends. You may try this rhythm instead: https://puu.sh/vLGwX/1e10e6ca9f.png
01:06:869 (2) - Remove.
01:10:502 (4,5,6,7) - If you want a rhythm alternation here, you need to keep consistent with corresponding parts in other sections.
01:13:315 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I dont see any valid reason to use such huge and abrupt jumps.
01:16:127 (4,5,6,7,1) - ^
01:20:815 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same problems as mentioned above.
01:29:955 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Such huge spacing differences. Ofc "No" from my side.
01:32:533 (3,4) - Bad flow.
01:33:236 (7,8) - ^ I mean, yeah you could use 1/4 jumps but make sure the flow is nice.
01:38:510 (5) - Ofc this should be a 1/4 slider instead.
01:41:791 (2) - Remove

Last edited by Mafumafu 2017-05-10T14:54:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2017-05-09T21:46:40+00:00

hello, i rly thinked about the space, in not so expert in months ago, so in have switch all space jumps, (in 1/1 to be specific) like regrazz say about, theres a lot of confunsing things

Regraz wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]
First I want to know how you arrange the spacing throughout the entire diff. Some spacings are really questionable, like 00:03:705 (6,1) - 00:32:065 (1,2) -
00:35:346 (5,6,1,2,3) - etc. At least I dont understand how you made this spacing. rem-snap (?)

00:17:065 (1) - The rhythm of this part is messed up. I dont know which track you are following. There are some questionable rhythms like 00:25:854 (4,1) - . er... i don't need to explain, because is the same sense o my r to ^

thanks

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384,336,95815,5,2,0:3:0:0:
460,256,96049,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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