Perfume - Nee (short ver.) · forum

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-09-15T00:26:01+00:00

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

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MikasaSerket

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MikasaSerket 2016-10-03T23:41:58+00:00

Meeh!
Ꮚ˙ꈊ˙Ꮚ

13:31 Jonawaga: mikasa
13:31 Jonawaga: I'm greatful for the hitsounds
13:31 Jonawaga: it's just that
13:31 Jonawaga: http://puu.sh/rwQdS/478b0a17aa.jpg
13:32 Jonawaga: they're not working in game, so I checked Audacity to see what was up
13:32 Jonawaga: and Audacity has an error
13:32 MikasaSerket: er
13:32 Jonawaga: did I screw up?
13:32 MikasaSerket: um
13:32 MikasaSerket: https://puu.sh/rwQjc/131533e5aa.wav
13:32 MikasaSerket: wait
13:33 MikasaSerket: https://puu.sh/rwQkc/41390522c6.wav
13:33 MikasaSerket: dl those two
13:33 MikasaSerket: and replace them in the folder
13:40 Jonawaga: thx
13:40 Jonawaga: psot for kds
13:40 Jonawaga: post for kudosu if you want
13:41 MikasaSerket: Oh okies <3
13:42 MikasaSerket: done
13:43 Jonawaga: preferably include this conversation XD
13:43 MikasaSerket: ohhh

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Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-10-03T23:43:27+00:00

MikasaSerket wrote:
Meeh!
Ꮚ˙ꈊ˙Ꮚ

he helped with hitsounds :3

Super-Important Meta-Data Proof: neigh

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Garden

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Garden 2016-10-14T04:58:55+00:00

General

if there isnt an official source saying (short ver.) maybe thats not needed in title, u can state that by adding tags like cut version or sth

Caffe

od9 doesnt really fit imo, od8 is fairly enough
custom hitsounds are not applied in this diff it seems, also volume adjustment is needed
00:02:076 (1) - it feels pretty empty here with no hitsound
00:02:427 (2) - 00:58:208 (8) - a bit ds inconsistency on the triplet thing
00:26:451 (1,2) - the pattern here feels forced to play imo, if u would like to keep plz at least avoid 1,2 touching for a better look
01:02:544 (3) - unsnapped
01:16:841 (7) - space 7->1 larger than 6->7 for the emphasize on finish?
01:47:076 - only diff that ends the spinner here, move to 01:46:841 - for consistency

Ataraxia's Light Insane

00:24:576 (1,2) - tho its for the pattern, its bit confusing to read this cuz 00:24:341 (6,1) - is 1/4 gap
00:25:279 (2,3,4) - 01:40:279 (2,3,4) - rhythms on blue ticks feels weird to play here, maybe u can add some objects on the white tick downbeats, would play much better imo
00:33:247 (3) - consider changing to a 1/2 slider for the white tick downbeat
01:12:857 (6,7) - move to somewhere around 240,366 might look nicer cuz currently 01:12:388 (4,6,7) - looks visually too close

Hard

the diff gap is like normal---------->hard->light insane, might be an issue so i'd suggest u nerfing this diff. At many places in this diff, u pay too much attention to the pattern designing that many spacings are very unnatural to play like 00:04:419 (2,3,4) - 00:14:263 (4,5,1) - etc.
uh check aimod btw, many unsnapped things there

Normal

00:24:576 (1,2) - a bit confusing to read, either space 2 farther or make 1 a 1/1 slider would be fine

Easy

fine

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-10-15T01:35:23+00:00

Garden wrote:
General
if there isnt an official source saying (short ver.) maybe thats not needed in title, u can state that by adding tags like cut version or sth the official Perfume YouTube channel shows the title with (short ver.), so it's fine
Hard
the diff gap is like normal---------->hard->light insane, might be an issue so i'd suggest u nerfing this diff. At many places in this diff, u pay too much attention to the pattern designing that many spacings are very unnatural to play like 00:04:419 (2,3,4) - 00:14:263 (4,5,1) - etc. fixed somewhat and still fixing
uh check aimod btw, many unsnapped things there fixed
Normal
00:24:576 (1,2) - a bit confusing to read, either space 2 farther or make 1 a 1/1 slider would be fine fixed, this was a mistake
Easy
fine

Thanks for modding~

theyaoster

61 posts

Joined July 2015

theyaoster 2016-10-15T02:58:16+00:00

Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Easy:

AR0 seems a little low... maybe 2 at least?
00:04:419 (4,1) - Blanket maybe.
00:25:513 (2) and 01:40:513 (2) - This doesn't seem to fit the beat; 1/1 sliders make more sense to me.
01:01:372 (4) - I would consider a stronger hitsound (like clap) on both ends; I hear pretty strong drum beats here (goes for all diffs).

Normal:

00:40:982 (4) - If you're following vocals, the slider would start at 00:41:216 instead (while keeping a hitobject on 00:40:982).

Hard:

00:26:451 (1,2) - Even though these circles match the drums, they sound offset from the main melody. I would strongly consider mapping this part to the main melody since you seem to be doing so for most of the map.
01:36:294 (2,3,4) - The flow is a little awkward here; I would either stack 01:36:529 (3) onto 01:36:763 (4) or rotate the slider so the sliderball moves roughly in the same direction as the cursor movement (for example).
01:41:216 (1) - Seems off-rhythm; maybe have it start at 01:41:333 (currently, I barely hear anything on the starting sliderend).
00:14:263 (4,5) - Spacing should be reduced; rhythm seems relatively similar to before and afterwards.
01:26:216 (1,2) - ^
01:36:294 (2,3) - ^

Ataraxia's Light Insane:

Seems pretty good!

Caffe:

00:10:513 (4,5,6,7) - Spacing could be increased a bit here.
00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - I think 7 overlaps a little too much with 8, 9, and 10. Also, the spacing between 10 and 1 seems a bit much, compared to the notes before it.
00:39:576 (1,2,3) - I don't hear a triple here (potentially overmapped).
00:41:451 (1,2,3) - ^
00:52:701 (1,2,3) - ^. I think there are more cases of this but these stand out to me the most.
01:08:638 (4) - NC here matches patterns from the last 3 NC's.

That's all I could find; good luck!

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-10-15T15:24:35+00:00

theyaoster wrote:
Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Easy:
AR0 seems a little low... maybe 2 at least? Fixed~
00:04:419 (4,1) - Blanket maybe. Fixed~
00:25:513 (2) and 01:40:513 (2) - This doesn't seem to fit the beat; 1/1 sliders make more sense to me. Nah, it's fine.
01:01:372 (4) - I would consider a stronger hitsound (like clap) on both ends; I hear pretty strong drum beats here (goes for all diffs). I use claps when there are claps in the music, so raising the volume here would make more sense to me.
Normal:
00:40:982 (4) - If you're following vocals, the slider would start at 00:41:216 instead (while keeping a hitobject on 00:40:982). You're right that there is a pretty strong vocal 00:41:216 - here, but I don't want to map it in Normal to keep the rhythm simple. Also, doing this would ruin the parallel rhythm ~~and blankets~~ with 00:39:576 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern.
Hard:
00:26:451 (1,2) - Even though these circles match the drums, they sound offset from the main melody. I would strongly consider mapping this part to the main melody since you seem to be doing so for most of the map. Fixed~
01:36:294 (2,3,4) - The flow is a little awkward here; I would either stack 01:36:529 (3) onto 01:36:763 (4) or rotate the slider so the sliderball moves roughly in the same direction as the cursor movement (for example). I actually like the rough flow here because there should be a direction change 01:36:763 (4,1) - here for emphasis.
01:41:216 (1) - Seems off-rhythm; maybe have it start at 01:41:333 (currently, I barely hear anything on the starting sliderend). Fixed, but differently and very slightly~
00:14:263 (4,5) - Spacing should be reduced; rhythm seems relatively similar to before and afterwards. It's fine because the note that receives the extra spacing has more emphasis than the surrounding notes.
01:26:216 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:36:294 (2,3) - ^ In this case, the symmetrical jump is fine because it reflects the rhythm on both sides.
That's all I could find; good luck!

Thanks for modding~!!

CaffeAmericano

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Joined January 2015

CaffeAmericano 2016-10-17T06:10:47+00:00

@Garden: all fixed except custom hitsounding, which will be worked on later

theyaoster wrote:
Hi, I'm from your STD M4M queue:

Caffe:
00:10:513 (4,5,6,7) - Spacing could be increased a bit here. I agree but I'd like to keep equal distnce since I think triplet does some emphasis for the beat
00:25:982 (7,8,9,10,1) - I think 7 overlaps a little too much with 8, 9, and 10. Also, the spacing between 10 and 1 seems a bit much, compared to the notes before it. Overlap is done consistently, It's not a typically good overlap, but I think the sound in the song is atypical as well and fits ok. fixed DS issue
00:39:576 (1,2,3) - I don't hear a triple here (potentially overmapped). Pretty sure there are sounds. However, someone told me I should try to avoid white tick triplets, so I might addresss this later.
00:41:451 (1,2,3) - ^
00:52:701 (1,2,3) - ^. I think there are more cases of this but these stand out to me the most.
01:08:638 (4) - NC here matches patterns from the last 3 NC's.I think what I've done is conssitent
That's all I could find; good luck!

Thank you very much for the mods~

@Jonawaga: feel free to change the name of my diff to whatever you deem fits

Caffe left a creepy box

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Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-17T16:39:14+00:00

@Ataraxia Here's a quick mod of your diff, only apply what seems good to you~!!
[Light Insane]

00:03:716 (6,1) - Include a slight jump here for emphasis on the downbeat. This will be more consistent with 00:02:779 (3,4) - over here. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:03:482 (5,6) - this pattern.
00:17:076 (1) - Change this to 76|292 to avoid overlap.
00:05:591 (6,1) - ^ An easy way to do this would be unstacking 00:05:357 (5,6) - this.
00:33:482 - You missed a pretty strong beat here. I recommend you either add a circle or make a reverse slider from 00:33:247 - here to 00:33:716 - here.
00:47:544 (2,3) - Make the blanket look better.
00:54:576 (1,2) - ^
00:52:466 (4,1) - There's no reason to have such a large jump here, especially when most of your downbeats have small jumps or no jumps. I recommend you make this jump smaller. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:52:466 (4) - this. My biggest concern with your difficulty is that the jumps are disorganized. You should be able to fix this mostly by yourself, but tell me if you need assistance.
01:00:786 (3) - 01:00:786 (3) - Place this at the end of 01:00:435 (2) - this instead of before 01:00:904 (4) - this. This will give more emphasis to the red tick instead of the blue tick there.
01:14:029 (3,5) - Make the blanket look better.

I hope I helped~!!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-17T22:25:28+00:00

Jonawaga wrote:
@Ataraxia Here's a quick mod of your diff, only apply what seems good to you~!!
[Light Insane]
00:03:716 (6,1) - Include a slight jump here for emphasis on the downbeat. This will be more consistent with 00:02:779 (3,4) - over here. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:03:482 (5,6) - this pattern.
00:17:076 (1) - Change this to 76|292 to avoid overlap.
00:05:591 (6,1) - ^ An easy way to do this would be unstacking 00:05:357 (5,6) - this.
00:33:482 - You missed a pretty strong beat here. I recommend you either add a circle or make a reverse slider from 00:33:247 - here to 00:33:716 - here.
00:47:544 (2,3) - Make the blanket look better.
00:54:576 (1,2) - ^
00:52:466 (4,1) - There's no reason to have such a large jump here, especially when most of your downbeats have small jumps or no jumps. I recommend you make this jump smaller. An easy way to do this would be lowering 00:52:466 (4) - this. My biggest concern with your difficulty is that the jumps are disorganized. You should be able to fix this mostly by yourself, but tell me if you need assistance.
01:00:786 (3) - 01:00:786 (3) - Place this at the end of 01:00:435 (2) - this instead of before 01:00:904 (4) - this. This will give more emphasis to the red tick instead of the blue tick there.
01:14:029 (3,5) - Make the blanket look better.
I hope I helped~!!

Applied all Jona things, Thanks !

Garden wrote:
Ataraxia's Light Insane
00:24:576 (1,2) - tho its for the pattern, its bit confusing to read this cuz 00:24:341 (6,1) - is 1/4 gap the player just need to hold here, its not a problem
00:25:279 (2,3,4) - 01:40:279 (2,3,4) - rhythms on blue ticks feels weird to play here, maybe u can add some objects on the white tick downbeats, would play much better imo
00:33:247 (3) - consider changing to a 1/2 slider for the white tick downbeat
01:12:857 (6,7) - move to somewhere around 240,366 might look nicer cuz currently 01:12:388 (4,6,7) - looks visually too close
Rest Applied

Um dois três quatro um dois três quatro

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Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-17T22:26:26+00:00

Genius ataraxia Double post :p

Pereira006

osu! Alumni

2,801 posts

Joined October 2010

Pereira006 2016-10-18T18:09:10+00:00

hey when i dowlonad, file got corrupt, can you update ? Can't mod, poke me if you did update

Jonarwhal

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Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-18T20:05:30+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
hey when i dowlonad, file got corrupt, can you update ? Can't mod, poke me if you did update

I think I fixed it~!

Pereira006

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2,801 posts

Joined October 2010

Pereira006 2016-10-18T21:15:28+00:00

[Easy]

Hitsound:

00:02:076 (1) - would be cool if add finish is make sense to follow song IMO (all diff's if you add)
00:25:513 (2) - missing add whistle in end, you add whistle every pattern in 2/1 and 4/1 (all diffs)
00:29:263 (2) - ^ same happen
01:40:513 (2) - ^ same happen

[Normal]

Hitsound:

00:18:013 (3) - missing add whistle in end
00:25:044 (2) - ^ same
00:25:513 (3) - ^ same
00:26:451 (4) - ^ same
00:29:732 (3) - ^ same
00:33:482 (4) - ^ same

there many more, try be consistency of hitsound

[advanced]

Gameplay:

00:48:716 (5,1) - there missing NC in 5 then remove NC in 1 to be consistency other pattern and is pretty fit to follow song, example NC pattern in 00:52:466 (1,2), and others

[Hard]

Gameplay:

00:04:888 (4,5,6) - I don't think this need jump because there lot vocal repeat, example in 00:09:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6), and more, they don't have jump, so this part is no need to make jump, for be consistency, also is part calm song. so is better to fix as normal space
00:20:357 (4,1) - missing make jump, try something in (4) move place out or CTRL+H like this https://puu.sh/rNyI8/cc1ceaf49e.jpg or something
00:26:099 (6) - missing NC
01:12:154 (3,4) - inconsistency spacing
01:18:482 (6,1) - more out space, for make better jump, because this placement look like is normal space

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Gameplay:

00:08:638 (1) - Nao devia por novo cor. Maioria outros partes nao fizeste por novo cor, entao isso tambem nao precisa.
00:40:982 (4,1) - podia criar um novo salto porque no (1) tem voz bem alto e batido, logo isso faze sentir se criar nova salto, por exemplo no 00:36:997 (4,1) - isso é bom e outros paterno
00:43:091 (5,1) - ^ mesmo acontece
00:46:138 (1) - Tira NC

Está muito bom mas alguma dele parte precisa salto exemplo no 00:50:357 (5,1), 00:54:107 (4,1) e por ai fora. É nivel do Insane
[]
I check last diff, look good for me, try add hitsound more because there lot missing to add whistle for be more consistency.
Pretty well this set map. Good job and good luck!

Jonarwhal

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Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-10-22T04:49:12+00:00

Pereira006 wrote:
[Easy]

Hitsound:

00:02:076 (1) - would be cool if add finish is make sense to follow song IMO (all diff's if you add) Fixed~
00:25:513 (2) - missing add whistle in end, you add whistle every pattern in 2/1 and 4/1 (all diffs) Fixed~
00:29:263 (2) - ^ same happen Fixed~
01:40:513 (2) - ^ same happen Fixed~
[Normal]

Hitsound:

00:18:013 (3) - missing add whistle in end Fixed~
00:25:044 (2) - ^ same Fixed~
00:25:513 (3) - ^ same Fixed~
00:26:451 (4) - ^ same Fixed~
00:29:732 (3) - ^ same Fixed~
00:33:482 (4) - ^ same Fixed~
there many more, try be consistency of hitsound

[advanced]

Gameplay:

00:48:716 (5,1) - there missing NC in 5 then remove NC in 1 to be consistency other pattern and is pretty fit to follow song, example NC pattern in 00:52:466 (1,2), and others Fixed~
[Hard]

Gameplay:

00:04:888 (4,5,6) - I don't think this need jump because there lot vocal repeat, example in 00:09:576 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6), and more, they don't have jump, so this part is no need to make jump, for be consistency, also is part calm song. so is better to fix as normal space Fixed~
00:20:357 (4,1) - missing make jump, try something in (4) move place out or CTRL+H like this https://puu.sh/rNyI8/cc1ceaf49e.jpg or something Fixed~
00:26:099 (6) - missing NC Fixed~
01:12:154 (3,4) - inconsistency spacing it's intentional for slight emphasis. The difference is so subtle it doesn't matter either way though,
01:18:482 (6,1) - more out space, for make better jump, because this placement look like is normal space Fixed~
I check last diff, look good for me, try add hitsound more because there lot missing to add whistle for be more consistency.
Pretty well this set map. Good job and good luck!

Muito Obrigado!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-10-24T15:14:11+00:00

Sorry for late check !!!!

Pereira006 wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Gameplay:

00:08:638 (1) - Nao devia por novo cor. Maioria outros partes nao fizeste por novo cor, entao isso tambem nao precisa. Certo
00:40:982 (4,1) - podia criar um novo salto porque no (1) tem voz bem alto e batido, logo isso faze sentir se criar nova salto, por exemplo no 00:36:997 (4,1) - isso é bom e outros paterno Eu tentei dar o maximo de distancia. acredito que agora esteja coerente com a patten sugerida
00:43:091 (5,1) - ^ mesmo acontece ^ Mesmo acontece
00:46:138 (1) - Tira NC
Está muito bom mas alguma dele parte precisa salto exemplo no 00:50:357 (5,1), 00:54:107 (4,1) e por ai fora. É nivel do Insane

Tentei distanciar todos o maximo possivel, acredito que agora realmente esteja no nivel do "insane" Obrigado Pereira !

Jona Meu amor my love

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Noya

56 posts

Joined April 2014

Noya 2016-11-07T04:10:30+00:00

Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now.

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.

[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that.
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ?

[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ?
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel?

[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer.

I can't find much on this either.

[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties.
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent.
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ?

[Caffe's Neigh]

00:08:638 (4) - Move away or higher, it looks unappealing where it is now. 01:07:701 (1,2,3) - Looks better tho.
00:52:701 (1,2,3,4) - Blanket?

Hopefully something was helpful

Good luck!

Jonarwhal

1,222 posts

Joined November 2013

Topic Starter

Jonarwhal 2016-11-07T23:21:35+00:00

Noya wrote:
Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now. nah the vocal is too strong

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.
[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that. it's unnecessary, and it ruins my 2 measure NC reasoning
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ? fixed slightly~
[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now. I don't see the advantage.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ? adjusted
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel? I'd rather they be symmetrical than parallel
[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer. Dude I am not changing that triangle

I can't find much on this either.
Hopefully something was helpful ye

Good luck!

Thanks for modding~!!

Ataraxia

673 posts

Joined February 2014

Ataraxia 2016-11-07T23:28:09+00:00

Noya wrote:
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties. fixed !
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent. nah
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ? oh need be a jump her ;;
lol you are collabing me xd

thanks my collab

Good luck!

Eu so coloquei a tag mas mesmo assim

osu file format v14

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CaffeAmericano

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CaffeAmericano 2016-11-09T17:20:44+00:00

Noya wrote:
Hello people with the same collab as me~

[Easy]

01:24:341 (1) - This should start on 01:24:107 and end where you have it now.

That's the only think I found, it's a pretty solid diff already.
[Normal]

00:34:888 (6,7) - Start an NC here for the start of a new vocal line since you're following that.
00:42:388 (5,6) - ^
00:49:888 (6,7) - ^
00:53:638 (5,6) - ^
01:21:294 (2) - Move to be more in line with 01:21:763 (3) - ?
[Advanced]

00:23:521 (3,4) - This would go better as a slider to get the beat between the notes you have there now.
00:56:451 (1) - Make this look like 00:38:638 (2) - ?
01:22:232 (4) - Move the slider end away from 01:21:763 (3) - . Make them parallel?
[Hard]

00:18:951 (1,2) - Spacing. Move 1 closer.

I can't find much on this either.
[Ataraxia's Light Insane]

Tags don't match with the other difficulties.
00:17:076 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent.
00:56:451 (1) - Move to be in the center of 00:55:982 (3,4) - ?
[Caffe's Neigh]

00:08:638 (4) - Move away or higher, it looks unappealing where it is now. 01:07:701 (1,2,3) - Looks better tho. Looks fine to me
00:52:701 (1,2,3,4) - Blanket? Intetional
Hopefully something was helpful

Good luck!

Thanks for the mod!

Last edited by CaffeAmericano 2016-11-13T20:54:23+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-11-10T14:28:02+00:00

Caffe.
00:10:044 (3,4,5) - 간격이 상당히 가까워서 일관성에 어긋나네요. 이전 기준간격인 1.00x를 00:04:888 (4) 처럼 지켜주셔야 구조적 일관도가 더 높아질 것 같습니다.
00:15:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - 음악적으로 봤을 때 배경음이 사라지고 보컬 라인만 남게 된 중대한 변화가 생겼는데, 표현은 00:13:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)와 크게 다를 부분이 없네요. 음악의 변화를 다른 방식으로 포착해보시기 바랍니다. 이 경우에는 직전에 넓은 간격들을 자주 활용하셨기 때문에 갑작스러운 간격 감소가 음악과 잘 호응할것 같네요. 지금의 디자인은 음악을 잘 표현하고 있지 않습니다.
00:26:802 (2) - 01:41:802 (2) - 이 노트는 지우는게 표현하는 박자를 더 잘 강조할 것 같네요.
01:14:263 (1,2,3,4) - 기타 대응 파트를 생각해보면 점프가 음악에 비해 상당히 지나칩니다. 때문에 01:16:138 (4,5,6,7)의 강조도 잘 이루어지고 있지 않습니다.

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-10T14:46:19+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Caffe.
00:10:044 (3,4,5) - 간격이 상당히 가까워서 일관성에 어긋나네요. 이전 기준간격인 1.00x를 00:04:888 (4) 처럼 지켜주셔야 구조적 일관도가 더 높아질 것 같습니다.
00:15:201 (1,2,3,4,5) - 음악적으로 봤을 때 배경음이 사라지고 보컬 라인만 남게 된 중대한 변화가 생겼는데, 표현은 00:13:326 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)와 크게 다를 부분이 없네요. 음악의 변화를 다른 방식으로 포착해보시기 바랍니다. 이 경우에는 직전에 넓은 간격들을 자주 활용하셨기 때문에 갑작스러운 간격 감소가 음악과 잘 호응할것 같네요. 지금의 디자인은 음악을 잘 표현하고 있지 않습니다.
00:26:802 (2) - 01:41:802 (2) - 이 노트는 지우는게 표현하는 박자를 더 잘 강조할 것 같네요.
01:14:263 (1,2,3,4) - 기타 대응 파트를 생각해보면 점프가 음악에 비해 상당히 지나칩니다. 때문에 01:16:138 (4,5,6,7)의 강조도 잘 이루어지고 있지 않습니다.

Would it be alright if you looked at the other difficulties? :3

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2016-11-10T15:43:25+00:00

Not really sure for now.

btw you should seriously make the combo colors much brighter. They are way too dark along the BG right now to properly read the approach circle.

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T00:59:27+00:00

Backup for Advanced.

Blank Collab for Advanced.

~~Project will be marked WIP until Marianna finishes his collab.~~
Marianna is fast.

Hollow Delta

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Hollow Delta 2016-11-12T02:41:06+00:00

From Discord doing M4M.

Easy

SPOILER

http://puu.sh/sfgUT/e122adcb14.png Some aiMod stuff. Might want to re-snap those notes.
00:25:513 (2) - This reverse slider doesn't make much sense. And it doesn't fit the intensity of the song. I recommend doing a different shape.
It's kinda big so I can't explain it very, but hopefully this will give you an idea: http://puu.sh/sfhbI/6428087b67.jpg 3 is just a copy-flip of 1, in case you can't tell.
It keeps the symmetrical structure while complimenting the rhythm better.
01:40:513 (2) - I can tell this is just a flip of the old structure, so I think it's easy to say that I think my same mod applies here as well.

Normal

SPOILER

aiMod is pointing out 1 snapping issue here. I know snapping isn't a requirement for Normal, but it's kinda odd to have 1 single note unsnapped, and not a pattern of notes, you know what I mean?
00:43:326 (1) - Any reason for this to not be lined up with 5 and 6? Because of the spacing, it would make sense to make these 3 notes into a triangle. and stack 2 on the head of 3 to make up for the spacing, but why did you choose to do this? I'll admit it flows easier the way you did it, but it still looks off to me.
01:23:169 (5,1) - I personally thing this change from rhythm to the vocals is very sudden. You could delete 1 and extend 5 so it's a 3/4 slider, and it ends on where 1 was, so the player has the ability to analyze the upcoming notes.

Hard

SPOILER

00:15:201 (1) - While I can see your reasoning for keep it at this angle, I think for the sake of symmetry and staying in theme, this is better perfectly horizontal rather than diagonal.
00:39:576 (1) - This 1/4 reverse sounds kinda awkward to me. I think it sounds better to extend this slider so it's a 1/2, because then it would line up with the song and if you move the notes after it to make room it'll line up better and get rid of this awkward spacing here: 00:39:576 (1) -
00:54:576 (1) - ^

Light-Insane

SPOILER

00:32:076 (1) - Personally I don't like the rhythm choice here. 00:32:779 - I think it's better if you replace this part with a hit circle, and then moving the next 2 sliders up to the next white ticks. You might need to adjust the shapes of 2 and 3 a bit so it looks structured, but I think this rhythm fits the song better.
00:42:388 (3,4,5) - I don't see very much circular flow in your pattern choices! I recommend blanketing 4 with 3, and then moving 5 where 4 was before.
00:53:638 (3,4) - For similar parts / patterns in a song, I recommend keeping the same degree of curvature with the sliders. It looks better in my opinion when you 'theme' your sliders.
01:03:013 (4,5) - These patterns caught me off guard only because they stuck out. Not visually, but while playing them I really FELT them. I suggest placing hitsounds on these considering the uniqueness.
01:33:013 (4) - The circle here feels awkward because it feels like a held note. I think a 1/4 slider fits better here because it makes sense with the upcoming 1/4 slider.

Neigh

SPOILER

00:18:482 (8) - While I like the streams, this note isn't justified. I think you should simply delete it as the spacing only makes it worse.
00:19:888 (6) - ^
00:56:216 (1) - I think 2 circles instead of a slider fits better, because it feels kinda awkward to hold then suddenly play a double.
01:33:482 (8) - Same as the first 2 mods.
While there is a lot of overmap in this, I see the justification. Everything else I though was very good. Flow, structure, rhythm choice. But the spots I pointed out don't have enough justification. It's hard to justify overmap, so it's very opinionated.

Good luck on the map.

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Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T16:26:41+00:00

Bubblun wrote:
From Discord doing M4M.

Easy
SPOILER
http://puu.sh/sfgUT/e122adcb14.png Some aiMod stuff. Might want to re-snap those notes. not really a problem since they're only .02 off, but fixed anyway to make AiMod stop complaining
00:25:513 (2) - This reverse slider doesn't make much sense. And it doesn't fit the intensity of the song. I recommend doing a different shape.
It's kinda big so I can't explain it very, but hopefully this will give you an idea: http://puu.sh/sfhbI/6428087b67.jpg 3 is just a copy-flip of 1, in case you can't tell.
It keeps the symmetrical structure while complimenting the rhythm better. there's plenty of emphasis on the red tick to make the reverse slider make sense, and also, applying your change would cause too many 1/1 patterns, which is bad imo
01:40:513 (2) - I can tell this is just a flip of the old structure, so I think it's easy to say that I think my same mod applies here as well. ^

Normal
SPOILER
aiMod is pointing out 1 snapping issue here. I know snapping isn't a requirement for Normal, but it's kinda odd to have 1 single note unsnapped, and not a pattern of notes, you know what I mean? Usually yes, but you can actually make exceptions for snapping if the objects are far apart enough. Since these objects are 3/1 apart, following snapping for that would mean placing them very far apart, and in some cases this means squishing it into the corner of the map. To prevent this, the mapper is allowed to make an exception for the snapping, and it plays just fine. Also, snapping this pattern would ruin the symmetry.
00:43:326 (1) - Any reason for this to not be lined up with 5 and 6? Because of the spacing, it would make sense to make these 3 notes into a triangle. and stack 2 on the head of 3 to make up for the spacing, but why did you choose to do this? I'll admit it flows easier the way you did it, but it still looks off to me. I did it to allow for symmetry 00:43:794 (2,3) - here. Also, that would not flow better. It would be a more predictable pattern, but it would not flow better. In Normal/Easy, more narrow angles make the flow worse, not better.
01:23:169 (5,1) - I personally thing this change from rhythm to the vocals is very sudden. You could delete 1 and extend 5 so it's a 3/4 slider, and it ends on where 1 was, so the player has the ability to analyze the upcoming notes. It will be fine for a Normal player to play this rhythm. It's just a 1/2 tap, that's no big deal in Normal. It happens a lot. I don't want to make (5) a 3/4 slider because then it doesn't do a good job emphasizing 01:24:107 - this beat.

Hard
SPOILER
00:15:201 (1) - While I can see your reasoning for keep it at this angle, I think for the sake of symmetry and staying in theme, this is better perfectly horizontal rather than diagonal. Agreed. Fixed~
00:39:576 (1) - This 1/4 reverse sounds kinda awkward to me. I think it sounds better to extend this slider so it's a 1/2, because then it would line up with the song and if you move the notes after it to make room it'll line up better and get rid of this awkward spacing here: 00:39:576 (1) - I could, but I think the 1/4 is fine to play since the player barely moves for it anyway lol. It prepares the player for the stationary pattern coming on the other side symmetrically 00:40:279 (3,4) - here. Idk how to change it without breaking symmetry and removing the break 00:40:279 (3,4) - there.
00:54:576 (1) - ^ I changed this part slightly after realizing that I used the same pattern twice. As for applying your suggestion there, no change.

Light-Insane
00:32:076 (1) - I'll look at this in a minute.

Thank you for modding!!

Jonarwhal

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Jonarwhal 2016-11-12T16:38:35+00:00

[Mod for Marianna]

00:33:951 (1) - This would flow better like this:
~
00:34:419 (2,3) - make the blanket better
00:37:232 (3,1,2) - To avoid the overlap, do this:
~
00:47:544 (2,3) - You have to make the rhythm here more similar to the rhythm 00:32:779 (2,3,4) - here. Just using one circle 00:48:482 (3) - here is too Easy for an Advanced difficulty.
00:53:638 (3,4,1) - make the blankets better
00:55:279 (2,3,1) - fix the symmetry
01:38:638 (3,1) - make the blanket better
01:41:451 (1,2,3) - fix the symmetry
01:44:732 - add a circle here

I like your collab sections a lot.
I hope I helped you.

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