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Dzeko & Torres - 2015 in 10 minutes

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Kyubey
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SPOILER
<Kyubey> а чего од не семёрочка? жалеешь ты игроков
<Kyubey> 00:59:858 (8,1) - выглядит, как довольно здоровый и слишком внезапный прыжок для мапы с такой общей сложностью, я думаю, можно и уменьшить
<Kyubey> 01:18:491 (1) - как насчёт заменить на 1/4 слайдер с заглушённым хвостом и нотой на белом тике? она мощнее бы подошла под этот бит
<Kyubey> 02:14:741 (5,1) - может, тут чутка увеличить спейсинг, под новый-то кусок в треке?
<Kyubey> 02:45:912 (3) - репит странно звучит, кажется что здесь слайдер только под вокал хочет идти, и поэтому красный тик вызывает недоумение
<Kyubey> 02:52:123 (4,5,1) - может, анстакнуть, чтобы шло вместе с 02:53:998 (4,5,1) - одинаково?
<Kyubey> 06:14:506 (2) - классный хитсаунд
<Kyubey> 08:02:670 (3,1) - вот тут тоже штука довольно путающая, сверху вообще сложно будет заметить, ибо аппроачи краем экрана обрублены
<Kyubey> лучше бы анстакнуть, а то подстава такая спустя восемь минут мапы
<Kyubey> 08:42:631 (7) - ожидал здесь тоже репит, после 08:38:881 (4) -
<Kyubey> 08:53:412 (5,6,7) - раздвинь треугольник, а то из-за автостака тут нота со стаком оверлапает, https://qb.s-ul.eu/4ejYlra4.png
<Kyubey> 09:00:444 (1,2,3,5) - и тут
<Kyubey> и на этом всё
Kyubey
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Пузырь #1.
Aleks719
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Thank you, Kuybey!
свет, тепло и воду в твой дом стабильно всю зиму
Sieg
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#2
задержался
Aleks719
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Sieg wrote:

#2
задержался
Йей, спасибо!
Irreversible
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#approved

sorry can't speak russian!
Kyubey
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I thought you can say "Привет".
Aleks719
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Thank you, Irre!

*tears of happiness*
Irreversible
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npnbet!
mancuso_JM_
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Congratulations! :D

At least I could mod this version! hehe
ReFaller
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ReFaller
Congrats, I very enjoyed to Carly Rae Japsen Ellie Goulding's part.
Vass_Bass
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Vass_Bass
oooow gratzy!
Shiranai
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Shiranai
Congrats, this year is a nice one :)
Chalwa
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Wow, I really like this map :D. Congratz :)
Mekki
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It is nice to see the old mappers back :D
IamKwaN
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Why 2015 In 10 Minutes instead of 2015 in 10 Minutes? Source please.
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

Why 2015 In 10 Minutes instead of 2015 in 10 Minutes? Source please.
2015 was not realised oficially by D&T on soundcloud, i used the most viewed page.

https://soundcloud.com/nathanmennen/dze ... 10-minutes
IamKwaN
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Probably we should disqualify your map because what you are using is not official.

According to this and this, title should be 2015 in 10 Minutes.
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

Probably we should disqualify your map because what you are using is not official.

According to this and this, title should be 2015 in 10 Minutes.
Wrong. you actually give a sourse with "2015 in 10 minutes"


even you with special searches give 2 different names.

Looking in the past, Leader was wrong with uploaded name:
https://soundcloud.com/nickraymondg/dze ... 10-minutes

last 3 releases (2012-2015) were with capitalized letter, letter should be capitalized here too.
IamKwaN
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According to the facebook link, "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!"

I just want to make sure yours is not correct. No matter which one you choose (2015 in 10 Minutes or 2015 in 10 minutes), they are acceptable, but not the one you are having now.

And please do not justify with ranked mapset, most of the time it doesn't work. Refutation using different song is also a no.

If you do not have something to add, I will just disqualify it and requalify directly after the fix.
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

According to the facebook link, "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!"
as you posted "2015 in 10 Minutes is FINALLY here!!". "2015 in 10 Minutes" is not quoted.
It means it doesn't say the name of the track is "2015 in 10 Minutes", it's a speech, where author said "2015 year [compressed in] 10 Minutes was finally here".
You haven't proved you are right for now. Continue, since you have to prove it for disqualification. Don't even try to appeal to the name of uploaded file, it means nothing, you know it.
IamKwaN
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What do you mean by uploaded file?

EDIT: If you mean this, then why isn't it official? It is the only source linked by them. Even though they differ a little bit, they are both acceptable as I said.

If you ever find a valid official reference stating 2015 In 10 Minutes, I will let your map go.

EDIT2: Yes, I admit the whole thing is minor, but capitalization is one thing we do not have any exemption, unlike spaces and half/full-length symbols. And no, it is not tough to be requalified. Just fix it, and I will put it back to the qualified stage.

I do not want to sound like I am forcing people to change what they do not want to, instead, I try to convince people to have correct metadata. That's why I don't disqualify it directly.
Starrodkirby86
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I really feel like this whole thing is incredibly minor, and it's really tough to go through the whole reapproval process again...

So Aleks is saying that since that post is a just an announcement and not an official song title there, it can't be used to irrefutably prove that the proper capitalization is "2015 in 10 Minutes". They can just type whatever they want at that point.

Though in that same post, Dzeko and Torres provide a download link to their song. You need OAuth with Facebook to access it, but the file basically is like this:

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There's no tags, nor it's not on their official Soundcloud or anything, so I don't know how serious they are with the capitalization of it, but the name does seem like it's "2015 in 10 Minutes". You can check out their download link here.

Sorry if this brings any trouble, but at the least it's awesome to see you around again. You're such a great mapper.
Sieg
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tbh, I also came with that sc source, but w\e it wont take much time to lowercase, hope you guys can make some kind of agreement :3
Mekki
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Does that even matter? I mean, it is just a capitalization question, no one sees/care about that and also doesn't change nothing while searching the map. Honestly, this one being right/wrong I don't see a reason to disqualify just because of that. The important things about the title is there, this is what should matter.
Aleks719
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i've send a tweet to them, let's see what they reply.
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MkGuh wrote:

Does that even matter? I mean, it is just a capitalization question, no one sees/care about that and also doesn't change nothing while searching the map. Honestly, this one being right/wrong I don't see a reason to disqualify just because of that. The important things about the title is there, this is what should matter.
Frankly speaking, it does matter. If we let this slip through, I really do not know what people start to put in their title and artist from now on and from the viewpoint of the QAT, how to judge what is minor and what is not, leading the limit being pushed far and even further away. Eventually, everything returns to the metadata standard several years ago.

Aleks719 wrote:

i've send a tweet to them, let's see what they reply.
If you mean the artist, sure. There are still 4-5 days the map being ranked.
IamKwaN
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Sorry for double post, any reply from the artist?
IamKwaN
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Sorry, I guess I have to disqualify this until a response from the mapper or confirmation from the artist is heard.

Please let me know if you want to change the title or wait for artist's confirmation, sorry for any convenience.
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

Sorry, I guess I have to disqualify this until a response from the mapper or confirmation from the artist is heard.

Please let me know if you want to change the title or wait for artist's confirmation, sorry for any convenience.

I do not take your apologizes.
You had no right to do this, since you haven't proved i'm wrong.
All you have are guesses without any real source.

You put your opinion higher than opinion of mapper and 3 nominators without proof, i don't think your action is right.

p.s. unite your triplepost, it looks awful.
IamKwaN
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Take a look at Starrokirby's screenshot, that is the proof. Download link sourced from the Artist is valid official reference. Unfortunately, metadata is a matter of facts instead of opinion, and triplepost is necessary for my question and icon post, because it construes a timeline.
Stefan
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Since Starrodkirby post, I think in this case a direct download's "metadata" should apply here. I don't know what could be more official than that. If Dzeko & Torres do not really use anything but Facebook to share their content, this is the most official source we should follow.

And at all: it's about a single letter. Any QAT which disqualifies the map can instantly re-qualify the map. Metadata cases doesn't require new bubbles.
Aleks719
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Carefully read Starrodkirby post:

the name does seem like
He only made a guess, it doesn't prove anything. Just a guess: you can agree with it, you can not agree with it. If file's name would be "Various artists - Track 1", does it mean it's a metadata? c'mon.

Uploaded file's name is not a source.
I remember many topics where QAT don't count file's name as a source since it's not "printed" or "mentioned" anywhere.

I don't care Stefan, problem is another: Kwan disqualified map without a proof.
Mekki
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Why dont you guys just put it like all the other versions and done.
IamKwaN
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the name does seem like
The name IS 2015 in 10 Minutes, download yourself to check.

He only made a guess, it doesn't prove anything. Just a guess: you can agree with it, you can not agree with it.
I have proved it.

If file's name would be "Various artists - Track 1", does it mean it's a metadata? c'mon.
Yes, if there is nowhere we could find the metadata. Look at this: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429454 .

Uploaded file's name is not a source.
I remember many topics where QAT don't count file's name as a source since it's not "printed" or "mentioned" anywhere.
Link them.

I don't care Stefan, problem is another: Kwan disqualified map without a proof.
I refuse to repeat.
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

the name does seem like
The name IS 2015 in 10 Minutes, download yourself to check.
uploaded file is not a source. that's it.

He only made a guess, it doesn't prove anything. Just a guess: you can agree with it, you can not agree with it.
I have proved it.
nope.

If file's name would be "Various artists - Track 1", does it mean it's a metadata? c'mon.
Yes, if there is nowhere we could find the metadata. Look at this: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/429454 .
as you said before we don't compare map, each case is different.

Uploaded file's name is not a source.
I remember many topics where QAT don't count file's name as a source since it's not "printed" or "mentioned" anywhere.
Link them.
dig old maps with date of approval 2-3 years ago, if you have nothing else to do

I don't care Stefan, problem is another: Kwan disqualified map without a proof.
I refuse to repeat.
as i told, i don't accept name of uploaded file as an official source. that's all you have and it's very very weak line of your attack on capitalized letter.
IamKwaN
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Change it to 2015 in 10 minutes then.

https://www.hive.co/downloads/download/ ... spotlight/
Aleks719
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IamKwaN wrote:

Change it to 2015 in 10 minutes then.
https://www.hive.co/downloads/download/ ... spotlight/
File sharing service with slogan "Build, engage, and monetize your online audience"? Man, are you joking?
Also you mentioned before FB post and "Minutes" word there was capitalized. Question was about "In" only, since "Minutes" word had been used officially and can be taken as a source particularly.
IamKwaN
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https://www.facebook.com/dzekoandtorres ... 22R9%22%7D
Click the download link they linked, I feel really tired explaining. I have said either 2015 in 10 Minutes or 2015 in 10 minutes is acceptable.

I have absolutely no idea why you mention "taken as a source particularly". There is no such concept as particular source of metadata. Have you ever thought of the consequences behind if we adopt this?
Loctav
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What's your source of metadata then, Aleks?
Also their facebook page is a valid source. Stick to that. Or don't get it ranked.
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