Aimer with chelly (EGOIST) - ninelie (TV Size) · forum

Net0

Joined October 2014

Net0 2016-09-18T05:13:15+00:00

Hey there o/, I decided to give it a try and mod this cool song. It seems you're open for m4m, so if this mod is of any help, this is the map (let me know if you don't want to mod it): https://osu.ppy.sh/s/502648

[General]

Tags The tags are inconsistent with the difficulites:

Easy: ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
Ora's Normal: ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
Silence: whirl ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
There's an unused hitsound as well: soft-hitwhistlez.wav
Also, hitsound soft-hitfinish has more than 5ms delay. Be careful with this hitsounds. They're reason enough for DQ in the future.
I believe you already know that, but the difficulty spread of this map will need a 2* and a 3* difficulty. Probably you can make then: Advanced and Hard; Hard and Light Insane. Depends on the diffs.

[

Easy]

1. Unsnapped slider end 00:49:886 -
2. 00:20:060 (1) - DS here is 1,06x. Acceptable since it's slow bpm. But always try to keep variation to a low values.
3. Improve blanket 00:31:223 (1,2) -
4. I'll suggest some stuff about this: 00:56:339 (1,2,3,4,5) -
5. Make 00:56:339 (1) - going along with sliderheads 00:55:293 (3,2) - in a linear flow. Could work great. Let me show you: http://puu.sh/rf4HK.jpg
6. 00:56:688 (2,4) - Improve blanket. http://puu.sh/rf4OV.jpg
7. Personal Input: I don't know if having the easiest difficulty of the set with a lot of 1/2 it's the best choice. It works because of the bpm. But keep in mind that the easiest difficulty should mostly be 1/1.

[

Normal]

Unsnapped stuff:00:45:700 (2) - 00:46:746 - 00:49:886 -
00:22:851 (1) - DS here increased from the usual 1,40x to 1,48x. Be careful with this variations. 01:20:758 (5) - is 1,46x.
Blanket suggestion: 00:08:898 (1,3) -
Blanket fix 00:11:688 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rf5jt.jpg
Can you explain the new combo here 00:34:014 (1,2,1) - . You were consistently using the big white ticks for making then and you changed that in this point. Same thing happens here 00:36:805 (1,2,3,1) -

[

Insane]

Why starting a new combo in this part? 00:03:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5) - . This musical phrase is pretty clear a repetition, starts here 00:03:316 (1) - and repeats itself here 00:04:712 (1) - . This could work as two combos 6/6 00:03:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
This polarity here seems ok 00:42:386 (1,2) - but at least add some hitsounds so the player don't get confused about this blue ticks on this section, here's and example; 00:42:909 (2) - .

Really great mapset. With some more stuff I believe this will be ranked

. Good luck with it o/

Domi200

183 posts

Joined November 2013

Domi200 2016-09-18T18:32:26+00:00

Hey from your M4M queue <3

[General]

Maybe increase the difficult of the normal a tad or consider adding another diff to cover the gap between 1.92* (Normal) and 4.45* (Silence)
All maps should have the same tags: Silence has different tags

[Easy]

00:07:502 (3) - This slider is on the edge of being out of the playfield. For people with a bigger hiterror bar it will overlap
00:18:665 (3) - ^ tbh I think you can ignore it but Im not 100% sure if its against the ranking criteria, so I will skip pointing out the following of those
00:38:200 (3) - Maybe curve this a bit more to have it close to the other curved sliders you used
00:40:991 (2) - Same here - Would also work as blanket
00:52:153 (3) - Maybe make this straight
01:26:339 (4) - You could move this more to the right so the end of (4) is in the middle of (3)'s body

[Ora's Normal]

OD8 for a Normal seems a bit harsh
Just like HP7
No hitsounds
00:36:107 (1,1) - Unnecassary combo
00:38:898 (1,1) - ^
00:45:700 (2) - This looks a bit stiff maybe add a curve after the turn
00:49:014 (1,2,1,2) - There is something missing here. You dont get that kick thats in the song. You have to break up your pattern here. E.g. in the Easy it was simply the change of the slidershape. Something that tells the player boom now its the kiai
00:53:200 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Imo the vocals are too strong here to be ignored and its still a Normal
01:04:712 (1,2) - Try to blanket those
01:07:502 (1,2,3) - (2,3) doesnt align with the sliderend. I think thats what you wanted here
01:22:851 (3,4) - Use a slider here
01:26:339 (4,5) - ^
01:27:037 (1) - Remove and start the spinner here

[Silence]

00:04:712 (1,1) - No need for those 2 combos. Just remove NC here 00:05:060 (1) -
00:12:560 (4) - Avoid the overlap here by stacking it on the sliderhead (1) and readjust (5) by pulling it to the left (Can be stacked with 00:13:432 (2) - )
00:16:398 (3,4,5,6) - the square is a bit out of shape here on (3)
00:18:491 (4) - Maybe blanket this with 3 (x312 y174)
00:19:014 (2) - if ^ applied you can stack it with 00:18:491 (4) - and stack 00:19:188 (3) - with the sliderend of 00:18:665 (1) -
00:19:363 (4) - Make the slider a bit sharper to improve the blanket
00:20:060 (1) - The edgy slider doesnt fit here yet I would go with the curves like before.
00:21:805 (3,4) - Blanket those
00:24:246 (1) - Stack this with the sliderend of 00:22:851 (1) - and readjust the sliderend to the edge of (3)
00:24:595 (2,3) - Quite big DS here you could stack (2) with 00:25:467 (4) -
00:25:991 (2,3) - Stack (2) with (4) and (3) with the end of (1)
00:26:339 (4) - ROund this up and blanket with (5)
00:28:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really like this part
00:51:979 (5) - Prev 1.75 Next 2.87 Seems a bit harsh here
00:57:386 (4,2) - Stack (2) with (4)
00:58:432 (4,5) - Blanket here
01:00:351 (5) - Noted that on the easy already but its half out of the playfield~
01:01:223 (4,1) - Try to stack the end of (4) with (1) here
01:04:712 (1,2) - Sharpen (1) for better blanket
01:09:944 (4) - You could stack this with the end of 01:10:293 (1) -
01:14:130 (5,1) - Fix blanket

Really nice maps you got there

Hope I could help good luck with it

-C O N T R A L-

143 posts

Joined October 2015

-C O N T R A L- 2016-09-18T18:38:14+00:00

M4M

Difficulty : Silence
Some general information about your diff ''Silence'':
You used tons of linear sliders and common sliders. Maybe be creative and make some delicious sliders too!
00:08:200 (3) - Extend to a 1/2 Slider, sounds better
00:13:084 (1) - ^
Stack 00:17:967 (3) - with 00:16:921 (5,3) -
Place 00:19:014 (2) - a bit away from 00:18:491 (4) - because the stack looks a bit boring. Maybe on x:317 y:207
00:19:363 (4,5) - Fix blanket, place the middle point of the slider in the middle of the slider and place it higher for a nice-looking blanket.
Place 00:24:595 (2) - a bit away from 00:24:072 (4) - like i told you before.
00:28:781 (2,3) - Maybe make little jumps on the 4 2-circle-stacks. would be more fun to play.
00:31:223 (1,2) - Fix blanket like i told you before here too pls.
00:45:177 (2) - Remove this slider and map the vocals with slow sliders.
00:52:153 (1,2,3,4) - Time for more and bigger jumps, not for 100 sliders

Add some jumps there.
01:04:537 - Why is here a hole? The music don't stop, its a common mistake. pls add a circle here.
01:04:712 (1,2) - Fix blanket like the blankets before.
01:26:165 (6,7) - Fix blanket xd.

greetz

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-20T19:48:55+00:00

My guest diff

http://puu.sh/ri4IX/517276a263.osu

No hitsounds yet, but at least It can start receiving some mods (If you approve it ofc) :'D

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-20T22:03:03+00:00

Net0 wrote:
Hey there o/, I decided to give it a try and mod this cool song. It seems you're open for m4m, so if this mod is of any help, this is the map (let me know if you don't want to mod it): https://osu.ppy.sh/s/502648

[General]
Tags The tags are inconsistent with the difficulites:

Easy: ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
Ora's Normal: ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
Silence: whirl ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
fixed
There's an unused hitsound as well: soft-hitwhistlez.wav
not sure how that got there but fixed
Also, hitsound soft-hitfinish has more than 5ms delay. Be careful with this hitsounds. They're reason enough for DQ in the future. just gonna use default finish for now
I believe you already know that, but the difficulty spread of this map will need a 2* and a 3* difficulty. Probably you can make then: Advanced and Hard; Hard and Light Insane. Depends on the diffs. yep, still working on the spread

[Easy]
Unsnapped slider end 00:49:886 - fixed
00:20:060 (1) - DS here is 1,06x. Acceptable since it's slow bpm. But always try to keep variation to a low values. fixed
Improve blanket 00:31:223 (1,2) - tried
I'll suggest some stuff about this: 00:56:339 (1,2,3,4,5) -
Make 00:56:339 (1) - going along with sliderheads 00:55:293 (3,2) - in a linear flow. Could work great. Let me show you: http://puu.sh/rf4HK.jpg good idea
00:56:688 (2,4) - Improve blanket. http://puu.sh/rf4OV.jpg tried
Personal Input: I don't know if having the easiest difficulty of the set with a lot of 1/2 it's the best choice. It works because of the bpm. But keep in mind that the easiest difficulty should mostly be 1/1.[/list yeah, I mapped like this because of bpm]
[Normal]
Unsnapped stuff:00:45:700 (2) - 00:46:746 - 00:49:886 -
00:22:851 (1) - DS here increased from the usual 1,40x to 1,48x. Be careful with this variations. 01:20:758 (5) - is 1,46x.
Blanket suggestion: 00:08:898 (1,3) -
Blanket fix 00:11:688 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rf5jt.jpg
Can you explain the new combo here 00:34:014 (1,2,1) - . You were consistently using the big white ticks for making then and you changed that in this point. Same thing happens here 00:36:805 (1,2,3,1) -

[Insane]
Why starting a new combo in this part? 00:03:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,3,4,5) - . This musical phrase is pretty clear a repetition, starts here 00:03:316 (1) - and repeats itself here 00:04:712 (1) - . This could work as two combos 6/6 00:03:316 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - woops, mistake
This polarity here seems ok 00:42:386 (1,2) - but at least add some hitsounds so the player don't get confused about this blue ticks on this section, here's and example; 00:42:909 (2) - .
I think it's fine since it changes on a slider

Really great mapset. With some more stuff I believe this will be ranked . Good luck with it o/

Domi200 wrote:
Hey from your M4M queue <3

[General]
Maybe increase the difficult of the normal a tad or consider adding another diff to cover the gap between 1.92* (Normal) and 4.45* (Silence) still working on spread
All maps should have the same tags: Silence has different tags
fixed in earlier mod

[Easy]
00:07:502 (3) - This slider is on the edge of being out of the playfield. For people with a bigger hiterror bar it will overlap umm, not sure. I'll keep for now
00:18:665 (3) - ^ tbh I think you can ignore it but Im not 100% sure if its against the ranking criteria, so I will skip pointing out the following of those
00:38:200 (3) - Maybe curve this a bit more to have it close to the other curved sliders you used tried
00:40:991 (2) - Same here - Would also work as blanket keep
00:52:153 (3) - Maybe make this straight it's like that because of symmetry with 4
01:26:339 (4) - You could move this more to the right so the end of (4) is in the middle of (3)'s body
prefer current look

[Ora's Normal]
OD8 for a Normal seems a bit harsh
Just like HP7
No hitsounds
00:36:107 (1,1) - Unnecassary combo
00:38:898 (1,1) - ^
00:45:700 (2) - This looks a bit stiff maybe add a curve after the turn
00:49:014 (1,2,1,2) - There is something missing here. You dont get that kick thats in the song. You have to break up your pattern here. E.g. in the Easy it was simply the change of the slidershape. Something that tells the player boom now its the kiai
00:53:200 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Imo the vocals are too strong here to be ignored and its still a Normal
01:04:712 (1,2) - Try to blanket those
01:07:502 (1,2,3) - (2,3) doesnt align with the sliderend. I think thats what you wanted here
01:22:851 (3,4) - Use a slider here
01:26:339 (4,5) - ^
01:27:037 (1) - Remove and start the spinner here
[Silence]
00:04:712 (1,1) - No need for those 2 combos. Just remove NC here 00:05:060 (1) - fixed in earlier mod
00:12:560 (4) - Avoid the overlap here by stacking it on the sliderhead (1) and readjust (5) by pulling it to the left (Can be stacked with 00:13:432 (2) - ) I think I like current more. maybe I'll change if more people point it out
00:16:398 (3,4,5,6) - the square is a bit out of shape here on (3) tried fixing
00:18:491 (4) - Maybe blanket this with 3 (x312 y174) good idea
00:19:014 (2) - if ^ applied you can stack it with 00:18:491 (4) - and stack 00:19:188 (3) - with the sliderend of 00:18:665 (1) - keep
00:19:363 (4) - Make the slider a bit sharper to improve the blanket tried
00:20:060 (1) - The edgy slider doesnt fit here yet I would go with the curves like before. doesnt play as well imo
00:21:805 (3,4) - Blanket those fine
00:24:246 (1) - Stack this with the sliderend of 00:22:851 (1) - and readjust the sliderend to the edge of (3) really dont like how that plays
00:24:595 (2,3) - Quite big DS here you could stack (2) with 00:25:467 (4) - I dont think it's that big but changed anyway
00:25:991 (2,3) - Stack (2) with (4) and (3) with the end of (1) I like the look of that overlap
00:26:339 (4) - ROund this up and blanket with (5) like current
00:28:432 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really like this part :D
00:51:979 (5) - Prev 1.75 Next 2.87 Seems a bit harsh here I think it flows well into the vocals
00:57:386 (4,2) - Stack (2) with (4) didn't stack, but moved it around a bit
00:58:432 (4,5) - Blanket here keep
01:00:351 (5) - Noted that on the easy already but its half out of the playfield~ fine maybe
01:01:223 (4,1) - Try to stack the end of (4) with (1) here cant move 4 because of pattern, cant move 1 because no space. so keep
01:04:712 (1,2) - Sharpen (1) for better blanket ok
01:09:944 (4) - You could stack this with the end of 01:10:293 (1) - like the overlap
01:14:130 (5,1) - Fix blanket
tried

Really nice maps you got there Hope I could help good luck with it

Thank you! and thanks for the mod!

-C O N T R A L- wrote:
M4M

Difficulty : Silence
Some general information about your diff ''Silence'':
You used tons of linear sliders and common sliders. Maybe be creative and make some delicious sliders too! idk, I think the sliders fit the song
00:08:200 (3) - Extend to a 1/2 Slider, sounds better umm, I think you're right
00:13:084 (1) - ^ redid section
Stack 00:17:967 (3) - with 00:16:921 (5,3) - fixed
Place 00:19:014 (2) - a bit away from 00:18:491 (4) - because the stack looks a bit boring. Maybe on x:317 y:207 changed from previous mod
00:19:363 (4,5) - Fix blanket, place the middle point of the slider in the middle of the slider and place it higher for a nice-looking blanket. changed from previous mod
Place 00:24:595 (2) - a bit away from 00:24:072 (4) - like i told you before. changed from previous mod
00:28:781 (2,3) - Maybe make little jumps on the 4 2-circle-stacks. would be more fun to play. nah
00:31:223 (1,2) - Fix blanket like i told you before here too pls. tried
00:45:177 (2) - Remove this slider and map the vocals with slow sliders. that would be too much clicking and would be unfitting of that part imo, that's why I undermapped vocals
00:52:153 (1,2,3,4) - Time for more and bigger jumps, not for 100 sliders Add some jumps there. That part is mapped to vocals
01:04:537 - Why is here a hole? The music don't stop, its a common mistake. pls add a circle here. honestly, I like how it plays. there isn't much going on in the music there so I'm not ignoring a loud kick or something like that. I might change it for consistency if more people complain though
01:04:712 (1,2) - Fix blanket like the blankets before. tfw every single blanket in map is off
01:26:165 (6,7) - Fix blanket xd. .

greetz

Thanks for the mod!

Ora

959 posts

Joined November 2014

Ora 2016-09-21T22:08:28+00:00

[Ora's Normal]
OD8 for a Normal seems a bit harsh fixed, forgot to change
Just like HP7 ^
No hitsounds doke help me pls lol
00:36:107 (1,1) - Unnecassary combo All combos are now fixed, every 1/4
00:38:898 (1,1) - ^ hi
00:45:700 (2) - This looks a bit stiff maybe add a curve after the turn nahhhh
00:49:014 (1,2,1,2) - There is something missing here. You dont get that kick thats in the song. You have to break up your pattern here. E.g. in the Easy it was simply the change of the slidershape. Something that tells the player boom now its the kiai Not sure I see a problem with how it is now. The reverse slider provides enough intensity in my opinion (it obviously goes with the vocals). Remember this is only a Normal diff, so there's not much I can do lol
00:53:200 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Imo the vocals are too strong here to be ignored and its still a Normal The vocals here use blue ticks, and what I have there now still goes along with some of the vocals. I don't see any confusion here
01:04:712 (1,2) - Try to blanket those not supposed to be blanketed, good find though
01:07:502 (1,2,3) - (2,3) doesnt align with the sliderend. I think thats what you wanted here do you have any exact placements for me? I dont see much of a problem, the pattern is supposed to go diagonally
01:22:851 (3,4) - Use a slider here I need a reason o_o
01:26:339 (4,5) - ^ same
01:27:037 (1) - Remove and start the spinner here I think it's fine the way it is, again I need a reason D:

[Normal]
Unsnapped stuff:00:45:700 (2) - 00:46:746 - 00:49:886 - I don't see anything unsnapped, AIMod is clear
00:22:851 (1) - DS here increased from the usual 1,40x to 1,48x. Be careful with this variations. 01:20:758 (5) - is 1,46x. good find on the first one.\ The second 1 happens because of the stack which is perfectly normal and rankable
Blanket suggestion: 00:08:898 (1,3) - uhhh, not very important and not worth changing in my opinion
Blanket fix 00:11:688 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/rf5jt.jpg mapped that way intentionally
Can you explain the new combo here 00:34:014 (1,2,1) - . You were consistently using the big white ticks for making then and you changed that in this point. Same thing happens here 00:36:805 (1,2,3,1) - The combos just got messed up with some remapping, thanks for finding this. They should all be good now

Really great mapset. With some more stuff I believe this will be ranked

. Good luck with it o/ Thanks ^^[/quote]

[Ora's Normal]

00:59:130 (1) - The way this slider is placed triggered me. xd https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6111085 It Looks better like this imo I have it like this on purpose, and I don't see a problem with the flow D:
01:06:456 (6) - NC? fixed all NCs, thanks
01:13:084 (1) - I'd bring down this slider a bit to make it easier to read down where? I need better explanations D:
01:27:037 (1) - If I were you, i would remove this NC. But its not that very important. It actually makes sense that I have it here (I NC every 1/4) but thanks for noticing and making me double check

Thank you modders, should be good to go now

Update for doka

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 49014
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.4
BeatDivisor: 3
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:ninelie (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:ninelie (TV Size)
Artist:Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
ArtistUnicode:Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
Creator:nubery
Version:Ora's Normal
Source:甲鉄城のカバネリ
Tags:hallidayasr hali whirl ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
BeatmapID:1082833
BeatmapSetID:508786

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4.5
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-22T05:16:31+00:00

A quick mod :B

Easy

00:24:944 (4,1) - These two overlap (At least with my skin)

How about moving the slider end point to x:344 y:360? It looks better imo :'D

00:25:642 (1,2) - The gaps here feel empty. I suggest this rhytm

Also, this way you dont have a single 2 notes combo there

00:32:619 - How about using that same rhytm I suggested before there too? (This whole part):

It fits, and repeating the rhytm makes it look more consistent

00:45:177 (1) - The path isnt very clear by the end of the slider.

Maybe just move the slider end a little up so the track doesnt bend over itself?

00:50:758 (1,3) - This isnt a problem to me, but many would call this "unrankable" for an Easy xD It's just a warning, someone else probably will point this out (You did a few more times on the diff).

00:56:688 (2,4) - Blanket this?

01:16:572 (1,2,3) - Cool!

Ora's Normal

We met again Ora! Good my Metadata investigation on Attack the barbarian was helpfull :'D

00:16:921 (4,1) - Slightly imperfect blanket. Just move the slider end point to x:416 y:324

00:34:014 (1,2) - I would unstack this, I have no true reason to suggest this, is just a feeling, so it's up to you xD

00:39:595 (1) - I would also turn this note into a slider, ending here 00:40:642 - .

00:43:781 - This is like a strong white tick. I would place something there, feels empty O:

Halli's Hard

WTF This diff is absolute shit and should be remapped inmediately

Silence

01:13:084 (1,2) - I think there should be more space here. While playing this confused me, since you used the same spacing you used for the 1/4 jumps just before.

I mostly map Hards, I'm not expert on space emphasis so I never map Insanes sucessfully, so, sorry If I can't tell more things about Silence. Looks pretty good to me! It's up to some cool really analitic guys to mod this diff xD

That would be it! Nice mapset! Im glad Im part of it C:

Working on the hitsounds for my diff.

MikasaSerket

520 posts

Joined December 2014

MikasaSerket 2016-09-23T02:08:09+00:00

if your going to be collabing with Whirl on the light insane and put their name in the tags, at least put it in the description

halli's Hard
the kiais all seem to end on 01:15:874 - it would make sense to end it on 01:10:293 - and optionally start it again on 01:15:874 -
and end on 01:27:037 - Doesn't change a lot at all but it's a suggestion

00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - 00:05:410 (3,4,5,6) - 00:08:549 (4,5) - 00:14:130 (4,5) - no reason for the hitcircles to be overlapping each other. however it does make sense why it is so close to each other because = the music is "soft" (at least what it seems like.) the overlaps make it look unpolished though. using a distance snap of 1.1 or 1.2 should fix the overlapping problem while still having the hitcircles close together. i dont think it would affect the overall difficulty of the map.

00:17:270 - 00:28:432 - i like this entire section and how most of it is mapped to follow the rhythm of the drums. then 00:25:642 (6) - comes and ruins the beat. you already had a consistent beat going with the drums and then this 1/4 slider comes out of nowhere and just ruins it (because it's supposedly mapped to the vocals)

00:28:432 - 00:36:630 - yeahj from here to here it's easy to understand the rhythm you are following because 1. the music lines up with the vocals at the beginning but 2. it begins to line up with the synths/bg music (i guess you could say) at the end however, 3. the sliders still stay consistent in rhythm despite the sliders following the change from vocals to synth/bg music. however, the problem comes with 00:36:805 - when you just simply quit the consistent sliders and follow only the background music entirely. this type of rhythm change seems very awkward to listen to and to play and i'd recommend to just keep the consistent sliders you had before so a rhythm change like this wouldn't be as awkward.

01:18:665 (2,3,4) - fix this blanket, it's not even

00:58:084 (2,3) - 3 should be closer to two because the spacing gives off the impression that the slider begins on a red tick when in reality it begins on two. very confusing to read.

01:01:921 (4) - you dont start a new combo here where 1. the singer clearly emphasizes what she is saying and 2. you can hear an audible cymbal crashing in the background music. however you change combos on 01:00:874 (1) - which really doesn't have any reason to.

easy:
00:03:316 (1,2,3,4) - since you are starting off with a repeating slider, it would be better to use this type of rhythm instead. however it shouldn't really matter as it doesn't really make a difference.

00:49:363 (2) - for an easy, i dont really think this slider should end on a blue tick. (specifically an easy) it appears as if the slider ended on a blue tick to match the singers vocals which is fine in itself but it might be harder for the inexperienced player to distinguish the rhythm after that slider. better safe than sorry to end the slider on 00:49:363 (2) - to have a consistent rhythm that the player can easily distinguish.

silence:
00:03:316 (1,2) - this is fine 00:04:712 (1,2) - why the big distance change? there shouldn't be any reason for a big distance change like that since both parts are following the same exact music.

01:15:177 (2) - this slider should have a lower slider multiplier to follow the music. creates a good boost for 01:15:874 (1) - as well since its going to be faster.

01:15:874 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - this jump pattern would be fine if it was repeated all the way through the end. it stops all of a sudden on 01:21:456 - and the jump pattern was fine as well because it matched the music.

ok done

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-23T04:07:14+00:00

Thanks for the mods guys, I'll apply them soon

Shocola

287 posts

Joined July 2015

Shocola 2016-09-23T16:16:38+00:00

Shit mod incoming~

[ Hard ]
First of all, WTF?
*Second of all, Let get into the mod
*00:50:758 - this hard is a fail because of lacking the amount of note in the kiai
*instead of modding, its better to just remap it or find someone else to map it for you (try asking a hard gd from https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4675839 )

[ Insane ]
the kiai part is lacking in hitsound
00:17:967 (3,4) - put these 2 abit far away from each other
00:18:316 (4,1) - ^
00:22:502 (3,1) - this is unusual

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-23T19:50:17+00:00

HallidayASR wrote:
A quick mod :B

Easy
00:24:944 (4,1) - These two overlap (At least with my skin)
it doesn't on mine nor the default skin o.o
How about moving the slider end point to x:344 y:360? It looks better imo :'D which slider end ;w;

00:25:642 (1,2) - The gaps here feel empty. I suggest this rhytm It's purposely empty throughout that section. I wanted to raise a contrast between this part and the kiai. Though I did do some fixing up on this part's rhythm to be more consistent

Also, this way you dont have a single 2 notes combo there

00:32:619 - How about using that same rhytm I suggested before there too? (This whole part): I want to keep the note density of this part low which I think reflects the "calmness" of the music here

It fits, and repeating the rhytm makes it look more consistent

00:45:177 (1) - The path isnt very clear by the end of the slider.

Maybe just move the slider end a little up so the track doesnt bend over itself? moved it as much as I could

00:50:758 (1,3) - This isnt a problem to me, but many would call this "unrankable" for an Easy xD It's just a warning, someone else probably will point this out (You did a few more times on the diff). I think the stack is fine but I'll try to get more opinions on this

00:56:688 (2,4) - Blanket this? it's already a blanket ?w?

01:16:572 (1,2,3) - Cool! ^^

Ora's Normal
We met again Ora! Good my Metadata investigation on Attack the barbarian was helpfull :'D

00:16:921 (4,1) - Slightly imperfect blanket. Just move the slider end point to x:416 y:324

00:34:014 (1,2) - I would unstack this, I have no true reason to suggest this, is just a feeling, so it's up to you xD

00:39:595 (1) - I would also turn this note into a slider, ending here 00:40:642 - .

00:43:781 - This is like a strong white tick. I would place something there, feels empty O:

Halli's Hard
WTF This diff is absolute shit and should be remapped inmediately

Silence
01:13:084 (1,2) - I think there should be more space here. While playing this confused me, since you used the same spacing you used for the 1/4 jumps just before. Theoretically you are correct. However from play tests I've gathered people didn't seem to have trouble with that spacing. I'm unsure about this, I probably need more opinions.

I mostly map Hards, I'm not expert on space emphasis so I never map Insanes sucessfully, so, sorry If I can't tell more things about Silence. Looks pretty good to me! It's up to some cool really analitic guys to mod this diff xD

That would be it! Nice mapset! Im glad Im part of it C: c:

Thanks for the mod!

Working on the hitsounds for my diff.

MikasaSerket wrote:
if your going to be collabing with Whirl on the light insane and put their name in the tags, at least put it in the description The diff is on the way(i think). It still hasn't been submitted yet.

halli's Hard
the kiais all seem to end on 01:15:874 - it would make sense to end it on 01:10:293 - and optionally start it again on 01:15:874 -
and end on 01:27:037 - Doesn't change a lot at all but it's a suggestion

00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - 00:05:410 (3,4,5,6) - 00:08:549 (4,5) - 00:14:130 (4,5) - no reason for the hitcircles to be overlapping each other. however it does make sense why it is so close to each other because = the music is "soft" (at least what it seems like.) the overlaps make it look unpolished though. using a distance snap of 1.1 or 1.2 should fix the overlapping problem while still having the hitcircles close together. i dont think it would affect the overall difficulty of the map.

00:17:270 - 00:28:432 - i like this entire section and how most of it is mapped to follow the rhythm of the drums. then 00:25:642 (6) - comes and ruins the beat. you already had a consistent beat going with the drums and then this 1/4 slider comes out of nowhere and just ruins it (because it's supposedly mapped to the vocals)

00:28:432 - 00:36:630 - yeahj from here to here it's easy to understand the rhythm you are following because 1. the music lines up with the vocals at the beginning but 2. it begins to line up with the synths/bg music (i guess you could say) at the end however, 3. the sliders still stay consistent in rhythm despite the sliders following the change from vocals to synth/bg music. however, the problem comes with 00:36:805 - when you just simply quit the consistent sliders and follow only the background music entirely. this type of rhythm change seems very awkward to listen to and to play and i'd recommend to just keep the consistent sliders you had before so a rhythm change like this wouldn't be as awkward.

01:18:665 (2,3,4) - fix this blanket, it's not even

00:58:084 (2,3) - 3 should be closer to two because the spacing gives off the impression that the slider begins on a red tick when in reality it begins on two. very confusing to read.

01:01:921 (4) - you dont start a new combo here where 1. the singer clearly emphasizes what she is saying and 2. you can hear an audible cymbal crashing in the background music. however you change combos on 01:00:874 (1) - which really doesn't have any reason to.

easy:
00:03:316 (1,2,3,4) - since you are starting off with a repeating slider, it would be better to use this type of rhythm instead. however it shouldn't really matter as it doesn't really make a difference. I think both are fine, like you said it doesnt make much of a difference so I think I'll keep

00:49:363 (2) - for an easy, i dont really think this slider should end on a blue tick. (specifically an easy) it appears as if the slider ended on a blue tick to match the singers vocals which is fine in itself but it might be harder for the inexperienced player to distinguish the rhythm after that slider. better safe than sorry to end the slider on 00:49:363 (2) - to have a consistent rhythm that the player can easily distinguish. Since it's on the slider end(you dont have to click it), there should be enough time for the player to discern the rhythm with the given gap

silence:
00:03:316 (1,2) - this is fine 00:04:712 (1,2) - why the big distance change? there shouldn't be any reason for a big distance change like that since both parts are following the same exact music. Yes, you're right but for me there isn't a noticeable gameplay difference. I'll try to get more opinions on this. In the meantime I moved them closer(slight)

01:15:177 (2) - this slider should have a lower slider multiplier to follow the music. creates a good boost for 01:15:874 (1) - as well since its going to be faster. Good idea. reduced SV a bit.

01:15:874 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - this jump pattern would be fine if it was repeated all the way through the end. it stops all of a sudden on 01:21:456 - and the jump pattern was fine as well because it matched the music. Ok so someone was bound to point this out. I need a BN to confirm if this sort of inconsistent rhythm is rankable or not. I will probably end up remapping this part.

ok done

Thank you for the mod

Last edited by mardoka 2016-09-23T22:11:26+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-23T20:02:29+00:00

[-Chocola-] wrote:
Shit mod incoming~

[ Hard ]
First of all, WTF? ?
*Second of all, Let get into the mod
*00:50:758 - this hard is a fail because of lacking the amount of note in the kiai
*instead of modding, its better to just remap it or find someone else to map it for you (try asking a hard gd from https://osu.ppy.sh/u/4675839 )

I don't see what's wrong here. The diff feels very much playable to me and I like the rhythm choices he made throughout the map. Maybe the style just isn't something you're used to

[ Insane ]
the kiai part is lacking in hitsound There's a whistle on each kick, a clap on each snare and the occasional finish on the cymbal crashes.
00:17:967 (3,4) - put these 2 abit far away from each other Why? There isn't a sound on 4 that warrants a larger spacing.
00:18:316 (4,1) - ^ You gotta give a reason man
00:22:502 (3,1) - this is unusual I dont think so

Thanks

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-24T02:22:46+00:00

MikasaSerket wrote:
if your going to be collabing with Whirl on the light insane and put their name in the tags, at least put it in the description

halli's Hard
the kiais all seem to end on 01:15:874 - it would make sense to end it on 01:10:293 - and optionally start it again on 01:15:874 -
and end on 01:27:037 - Doesn't change a lot at all but it's a suggestion ??? You mean I do this only for my diff? If not, this should be in General or something... It's not my mapset, so I can't change this O:

00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - 00:05:410 (3,4,5,6) - 00:08:549 (4,5) - 00:14:130 (4,5) - no reason for the hitcircles to be overlapping each other. however it does make sense why it is so close to each other because = the music is "soft" (at least what it seems like.) the overlaps make it look unpolished though. using a distance snap of 1.1 or 1.2 should fix the overlapping problem while still having the hitcircles close together. i dont think it would affect the overall difficulty of the map. That's not the reason xD I did it because I wanted this blanket:

And after, I used a constant spacing for those 1/4, so It isnt wrong. I could still do a blanket increasing the spacing in the first case, but It wouldn't look very good.

00:17:270 - 00:28:432 - i like this entire section and how most of it is mapped to follow the rhythm of the drums. then 00:25:642 (6) - comes and ruins the beat. you already had a consistent beat going with the drums and then this 1/4 slider comes out of nowhere and just ruins it (because it's supposedly mapped to the vocals) It isnt mapped to the vocals xD If you listen carefully, you will notice that's still the drums rhytm, arranged in the song to fit the vocals too. Dont blame me, thats how they made the song :'D

00:28:432 - 00:36:630 - yeahj from here to here it's easy to understand the rhythm you are following because 1. the music lines up with the vocals at the beginning but 2. it begins to line up with the synths/bg music (i guess you could say) at the end however, 3. the sliders still stay consistent in rhythm despite the sliders following the change from vocals to synth/bg music. however, the problem comes with 00:36:805 - when you just simply quit the consistent sliders and follow only the background music entirely. this type of rhythm change seems very awkward to listen to and to play and i'd recommend to just keep the consistent sliders you had before so a rhythm change like this wouldn't be as awkward. Okay :'( I just didnt wanted that part to be very repetitive, and have a little change before the break... Ill change it for something else.

01:18:665 (2,3,4) - fix this blanket, it's not even Done, thank you

00:58:084 (2,3) - 3 should be closer to two because the spacing gives off the impression that the slider begins on a red tick when in reality it begins on two. very confusing to read. Alright :O

01:01:921 (4) - you dont start a new combo here where 1. the singer clearly emphasizes what she is saying and 2. you can hear an audible cymbal crashing in the background music. however you change combos on 01:00:874 (1) - which really doesn't have any reason to. I do have a reason for a NC in 01:00:874 (1) - , if you notice, 00:55:293 (1,1,1,1,1) - are some strong beats. I made sure to point them out emphasizing their spacing (They have a big jump) and choosing them as the start of the Combos. But you are also right, that's a really strong beat too and a NC fits, so I added it

Ill just send my updated diff to nubery when Im done with the hitsounds

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-24T03:53:46+00:00

Here is my updated diff:

Hitsounds ended up better than I expected <3

Halli's Hard

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kanor

925 posts

Joined August 2013

kanor 2016-09-24T14:00:13+00:00

[Genal]
the most uncomfortable is the flow and blanket..... sometime flow may be too tough or changes too many times in a pair of ryhthm, which mauy be hard for player.

[Normal]
00:00:526 (1,1) - the gap betwween spinner and the next note should be at least 2/1 i remember.......may be it was a unrankable warning
00:34:014 (1,2) - if you decide to stack 1/1, you'd better not stack other ryhthm like 1/2 at 00:49:014 (1,2) -
00:36:805 (1,2) - maybe we can better the blanket
01:23:549 (5,1) - blanket 1 may be more pretty to look imo

[Hard]
00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - those seem a little ugly......stack each two notes may be better imo....
00:10:642 (9,1) - blanket mat be better
00:09:595 (7) - ctrl+G may get a better flow
00:15:002 (7) - change it into a 1/2 slider may more fit the ryhthm because you miss a place to hold a drum hitsound
00:29:828 (2,3,4) -unpretty lap...... stack 3 at the tail of 2,stack 4 at the tail of 3 may better
00:31:921 (1,2,3) - ^
the genal feeling is flow in this diff is as fluent as it should be......

[Light Insane]
00:09:595 (2,3,1) -IDK if it fit the song like this kind of overmap
00:19:712 (4,5) - ctrl+G may get a better flow imo
I like the beginning of the kiai><

[Silence]
01:02:619 (3,5) - better stack
01:06:456 (3,4) - if you want to blanket it, better it plz

GL><
my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/499976
I love the song!

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-25T03:44:33+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Hard]
00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - those seem a little ugly......stack each two notes may be better imo.... As i said on the last mod, It's not a separate pattern, it's intended to blanket

so its fine C:

00:10:642 (9,1) - blanket mat be better Okey...
00:09:595 (7) - ctrl+G may get a better flow Changed I think, but I didnt used ctrl + G
00:15:002 (7) - change it into a 1/2 slider may more fit the ryhthm because you miss a place to hold a drum hitsound Right!
00:29:828 (2,3,4) -unpretty lap...... stack 3 at the tail of 2,stack 4 at the tail of 3 may better I don't think so, sorry :T
00:31:921 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
the genal feeling is flow in this diff is as fluent as it should be...... Glad you think it DD

Thank you very much for the mod!

Updated diff

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Artist:Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
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Renumi

Beatmap Nominator

904 posts

Joined July 2012

Renumi 2016-09-25T16:57:23+00:00

gl hf

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-25T16:59:24+00:00

Renigar wrote:
gl hf

come back

_handholding

3,109 posts

Joined April 2014

_handholding 2016-09-28T05:34:11+00:00

Easy

00:04:712 (3,4) - Replace with a reverse slider and a circle? This should be mapped the same as 00:03:316 (1,2) imo as the it is the same rhythm
00:14:479 (1) - Since you've been following the vocals how about using this rhythm? flows better too http://puu.sh/rqmis/81599958ee.jpg
00:19:712 - add circle
00:32:270 (2) - imo it would be better to delete this circle and place it 00:33:665 . It matches the vocals and transitions nicely onto the downbeat. Basically there's no reason to emphasize 00:32:270 with a circle if you have 00:33:665 unmapped
00:32:619 (3,1) Stacking like this is very easily misreadable. I recommend against it
00:42:386 (1) - rhythmically it would flow better to end it on 00:43:781
00:44:479 (2) - have this as a circle? This seems very similar to vocals such as 00:36:107 (2) where you've mapped them as circles but you opted for a slider here
00:49:363 (2) - it would flow much better to have this as a reverse slider and delete 00:50:409 :p It is also more appropriate for an easy diff imo
01:27:037 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick

Normal

At the beginning I can't really tell if you're focusing on the vocals on the instruments. You map the vocals at 00:13:084 (3) with a 1/1 slider but then don't do the same for 00:07:502 (3) and 00:10:293 (3,4) . If you want to follow the vocals then ctrl + g 00:10:293 (3,4) and turn 00:07:502 (3) into a 1/1 slider.
similar stuff about your choice of rhythm, you map a held vocal here 00:45:700 (2) but map another held vocal at 00:43:084 with a slider end
00:45:700 (2) - end this on the red tick
01:05:409 (2) - use this rhythm, the way it is currently it feels really forced and empty http://puu.sh/rqnjb/47e1baa3bf.jpg
01:13:084 (1,2,3,4) - It doesn't feel like this is mapping anything I also don't feel it's appropiate to map this part with the similar object density as your kiai time
01:27:735 (1) - same thing about the spinner in the easy diff. Also would be better to silence the end
One last thing, because the bpm is 86 you could have included some blue ticks and just mapped it 1/4 as, as it stands, this can be very much passable as an easy diff.

Hard

00:38:898 (1) - move NC to 00:39:595 (2) -
00:39:595 - I think you should map this part like the other diffs have. It's a tv size after all and this part is very much mappable.
01:27:037 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick. Also change the last timing point from 100% to 5%

Insane

00:31:746 (2) - why did you start using whistles all of a sudden? You hadn't used them at all before and you randomly started using them now during a much softer section of the song. The default soft whistle would suit it a lot better imo
01:07:502 (1,2,3,4) - the flow is really, uuugh here orz. Stacking 01:08:025 (3) on the tail of 01:07:502 (1) would be an easy fix
01:12:212 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this whole jump pattern doesn't play to the actual music. 01:12:560 (4) has more spacing than 01:12:386 (3) even though it has drum snare on it. Same with (5,6). In parts of music like these it's a good idea to have increased spacing for the beats emphasized drum beats, this way the spacing reflects the drums. Having the whole pattern increase in spacing from start to finish doesn't feel like you're playing along to the music at all
01:27:560 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick.

Silence

00:47:270 (3) - extend to blue tick
01:10:642 (2,3) - imo the spacing doesn't need to be this high, it takes emphasis away from the drums in the following measure
01:11:339 (5,6) - same as above
01:15:177 (2) - how about using a much lower SV? The difference from 1.1 to 1.0 is minuscule so the SV change doesn't end up emphasizing anything at all really
01:27:037 (1) - Same as easy

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Well that's all from me, GL!

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-09-29T04:03:52+00:00

Kisses wrote:
Hard
00:38:898 (1) - move NC to 00:39:595 (2) - Yeah c:
00:39:595 - I think you should map this part like the other diffs have. It's a tv size after all and this part is very much mappable. My mapping style can't handle that kind of organic feel of that section of the song, sorry I decided to keep it that way, not because you are not right, but because I think It wouldnt end up good...
01:27:037 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick. Also change the last timing point from 100% to 5% Great observation! :OOO
And about the last timing point, I suppose you mean that so the end of the slider isnt very loud, right? Since the spinner now ends earlier, I added a green line before it ends, works the same I think

Well that's all from me, GL!

Thank you for the mod!

Im also shooting another star so the map reach 20 B)

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mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-09-30T04:19:13+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
the most uncomfortable is the flow and blanket..... sometime flow may be too tough or changes too many times in a pair of ryhthm, which mauy be hard for player.

not completely sure what you mean by this, sorry

[Normal]
00:00:526 (1,1) - the gap betwween spinner and the next note should be at least 2/1 i remember.......may be it was a unrankable warning
00:34:014 (1,2) - if you decide to stack 1/1, you'd better not stack other ryhthm like 1/2 at 00:49:014 (1,2) -
00:36:805 (1,2) - maybe we can better the blanket
01:23:549 (5,1) - blanket 1 may be more pretty to look imo

[Hard]
00:04:014 (3,4,5,6) - those seem a little ugly......stack each two notes may be better imo....
00:10:642 (9,1) - blanket mat be better
00:09:595 (7) - ctrl+G may get a better flow
00:15:002 (7) - change it into a 1/2 slider may more fit the ryhthm because you miss a place to hold a drum hitsound
00:29:828 (2,3,4) -unpretty lap...... stack 3 at the tail of 2,stack 4 at the tail of 3 may better
00:31:921 (1,2,3) - ^
the genal feeling is flow in this diff is as fluent as it should be......

[Light Insane]
00:09:595 (2,3,1) -IDK if it fit the song like this kind of overmap
00:19:712 (4,5) - ctrl+G may get a better flow imo
I like the beginning of the kiai><

[Silence]
01:02:619 (3,5) - better stack gotcha
01:06:456 (3,4) - if you want to blanket it, better it plz tried

GL><
my map:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/499976
I love the song!

Kisses wrote:
Easy
00:04:712 (3,4) - Replace with a reverse slider and a circle? This should be mapped the same as 00:03:316 (1,2) imo as the it is the same rhythm umm I'm not sure if that kind of pattern consistency is necessary. I want the clicking here to be dynamic while still maintaining the same rhythm (audio feedback every 1/2)
00:14:479 (1) - Since you've been following the vocals how about using this rhythm? flows better too http://puu.sh/rqmis/81599958ee.jpg I switched off the vocals here because it's difficult to follow. I tried the reverse slider but imo it felt weird to only highlight a couple syllables. I decided to stick with highlighting the sounds on the white ticks here
00:19:712 - add circle Based on your suggestion, I chose to do a revision of this entire section of the music. Originally I structured the note density relative to the intensity of each section. I left the red tick at the end of each measure empty of this section as an attempt to contrast this with the kiai but I noticed just now that I mapped the beginning with complete 1/2 spacing and that part is arguably calmer. ~~Decided to add a circle on each red tick~~ nvm that's a terrible idea, will remap this diff instead
00:32:270 (2) - imo it would be better to delete this circle and place it 00:33:665 . It matches the vocals and transitions nicely onto the downbeat. Basically there's no reason to emphasize 00:32:270 with a circle if you have 00:33:665 unmapped you're right .-.
00:32:619 (3,1) Stacking like this is very easily misreadable. I recommend against it ok. I'm not very experienced with mapping Easy so I'll take your word for it
00:42:386 (1) - rhythmically it would flow better to end it on 00:43:781 tru. starting on white tick and ending on white tick
00:44:479 (2) - have this as a circle? This seems very similar to vocals such as 00:36:107 (2) where you've mapped them as circles but you opted for a slider here I had a reason for this but I dont remember anymore lo
00:49:363 (2) - it would flow much better to have this as a reverse slider and delete 00:50:409 :p It is also more appropriate for an easy diff imo Yes, I agree
01:27:037 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick
good ear

wew time to remap
Normal
At the beginning I can't really tell if you're focusing on the vocals on the instruments. You map the vocals at 00:13:084 (3) with a 1/1 slider but then don't do the same for 00:07:502 (3) and 00:10:293 (3,4) . If you want to follow the vocals then ctrl + g 00:10:293 (3,4) and turn 00:07:502 (3) into a 1/1 slider.
similar stuff about your choice of rhythm, you map a held vocal here 00:45:700 (2) but map another held vocal at 00:43:084 with a slider end
00:45:700 (2) - end this on the red tick
01:05:409 (2) - use this rhythm, the way it is currently it feels really forced and empty http://puu.sh/rqnjb/47e1baa3bf.jpg
01:13:084 (1,2,3,4) - It doesn't feel like this is mapping anything I also don't feel it's appropiate to map this part with the similar object density as your kiai time
01:27:735 (1) - same thing about the spinner in the easy diff. Also would be better to silence the end
One last thing, because the bpm is 86 you could have included some blue ticks and just mapped it 1/4 as, as it stands, this can be very much passable as an easy diff.
Hard
00:38:898 (1) - move NC to 00:39:595 (2) -
00:39:595 - I think you should map this part like the other diffs have. It's a tv size after all and this part is very much mappable.
01:27:037 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick. Also change the last timing point from 100% to 5%
Insane
00:31:746 (2) - why did you start using whistles all of a sudden? You hadn't used them at all before and you randomly started using them now during a much softer section of the song. The default soft whistle would suit it a lot better imo
01:07:502 (1,2,3,4) - the flow is really, uuugh here orz. Stacking 01:08:025 (3) on the tail of 01:07:502 (1) would be an easy fix
01:12:212 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this whole jump pattern doesn't play to the actual music. 01:12:560 (4) has more spacing than 01:12:386 (3) even though it has drum snare on it. Same with (5,6). In parts of music like these it's a good idea to have increased spacing for the beats emphasized drum beats, this way the spacing reflects the drums. Having the whole pattern increase in spacing from start to finish doesn't feel like you're playing along to the music at all
01:27:560 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick.
Silence
00:47:270 (3) - extend to blue tick I think the 1/2 gap here is a good opportunity for the player to do some self reflection :^) Jk, I don't want the player to feel rushed with clicking the next note as extended sliders tend to do that for circles at a relatively calm section. Though I might change if it comes up as a readability issue during playtesting.
01:10:642 (2,3) - imo the spacing doesn't need to be this high, it takes emphasis away from the drums in the following measure I interpreted this part to be the height of the held vocal, hence the spacing. But I can understand where you're coming from so I nerfed the spacing to a point where it shouldn't overshadow the drums anymore
01:11:339 (5,6) - same as above yeee
01:15:177 (2) - how about using a much lower SV? The difference from 1.1 to 1.0 is minuscule so the SV change doesn't end up emphasizing anything at all really I mean.. the slowdown in the music isn't very drastic but you're right the sv change isnt very noticeable so changed to 0.9x anyway
01:27:037 (1) - Same as easy .

[]
Well that's all from me, GL!

Thanks both for the useful mods

SkinnyJommy

788 posts

Joined January 2014

SkinnyJommy 2016-10-02T18:12:54+00:00

kanor wrote:
[Genal]
the most uncomfortable is the flow and blanket..... sometime flow may be too tough or changes too many times in a pair of ryhthm, which mauy be hard for player.

[Light Insane]
00:09:595 (2,3,1) -IDK if it fit the song like this kind of overmap i think it fits fine as it follows the vocals without overmapping
00:19:712 (4,5) - ctrl+G may get a better flow imo i like the flow as it is too!!!
I like the beginning of the kiai><

Kisses wrote:

[Insane]

00:31:746 (2) - why did you start using whistles all of a sudden? You hadn't used them at all before and you randomly started using them now during a much softer section of the song. The default soft whistle would suit it a lot better imo i used the whistles because of the bell sounding thing that appears in this section of the song
01:07:502 (1,2,3,4) - the flow is really, uuugh here orz. Stacking 01:08:025 (3) on the tail of 01:07:502 (1) would be an easy fix I like what i did a bit more
01:12:212 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this whole jump pattern doesn't play to the actual music. 01:12:560 (4) has more spacing than 01:12:386 (3) even though it has drum snare on it. Same with (5,6). In parts of music like these it's a good idea to have increased spacing for the beats emphasized drum beats, this way the spacing reflects the drums. Having the whole pattern increase in spacing from start to finish doesn't feel like you're playing along to the music at all this jump pattern does play to the music because i am following the main melody which is the piano (?) sound here that increases in pitch and volume, hency why the spacing gradually increases, also it is worth mentioning that it is the end of an "intense" section of the song so those generally have increased spacing and/or increased note density and spacing. emphasizing drum beats makes no sense to me because they are almost always the same volume, so spacing notes according to drums is a no for me.
01:27:560 (1) - end this at 01:29:392 , yes on the yellow tick. i used the 1/16 grey note

thanks for le mods

map

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Sorose

162 posts

Joined October 2015

Sorose 2016-10-05T19:51:41+00:00

pls reconsider adding "pp map" to the tags

kds pls

HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-10-06T19:50:10+00:00

Hellow! From MkGuh and Rocket's queue! >u<

[

Ora's Normal] Hellow Ora. Quite polished and solid normal you've made here. Just some few issues I'd like to point out regarding the diff. Feel free to deny them since I'm not a really experienced modder. /u\

00:00:526 (1) - First things first, this spinner ends on a very questionable spot. As it is right now, it feels it doesn't emphasize anything plus the purpose of the placing it stops over a worthless point. If I may say, I think it would be better if it ended here 00:03:316 - to highlight better the long.bell sound it catches from the start. Please, try it!
00:00:526 (1) - On the other hand, considering the sound-feedback of this spinner, I believe it would be a more epic experience if you could add some green lines to control volume feedback this spinner gives while it matches the increasing of the tone of the music. Moreover, as long as it highlights nicely the bell-sound, it would hurt no one if you could try this on it.
Example
1. Timeline
2. Timing Points
3. ```
526,697.674418604651,4,2,1,10,1,0
874,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
1223,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0
1572,-100,4,2,1,25,0,0
1921,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
2270,-100,4,2,1,35,0,0
2619,-100,4,2,1,40,0,0
3316,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
```
The current values of OD and AR are way higher for this kind of normal. I think it would be better if you coudl reduced them to 4 to make it match to the lowest diff accordingly.
00:10:293 (3,4) - This doesn't flow but rhythmically talking, the emphasis lacks a bit of strong since the vocals are being ignored here. The way I see things, vocals, specifically in this section become more relevant than the current instruments, therefore, I think it would be better if you could which this rhythm by doing ctrl + g to give a more epic emphasis to the beats in matter. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try! >w< Consider doing the same here 00:21:805 (4,5) -
00:34:014 (1,2) - For readability purposes, these kind of stacks are rather suggested to be avoided while mapping since the hitburst covers so directly the number of the next object hence, players might get confused at it. Wouldn't it flow more natural if you kept the DS here too?
00:47:270 (3) - 00:42:386 (1) - In this issue, I'd like to mention that consistency in terms of mapping is important. We can either make them both clickable or ending over a slider-tail. /u\
01:27:735 (1) - Would you mind adding a green line where this spinner stops? Its because since the sound stops early it would be better to have that sound muted. /w\

Last edited by HappyRocket88 2016-10-06T19:51:38+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mekki

1,795 posts

Joined November 2014

Mekki 2016-10-06T19:50:19+00:00

Hi from my queue with Rocket ♥

[General]
It would be better if you disable the widescreen support in the diffs.
The BG resolution is not 1366x768.

[Normal]
The settings seems so high for the lowest diff and for this normal aswell, I'd recommend lowering AR to 4 or 4.5 and OD too.
00:34:014 (1,2) - This stacking can become confusing to normal players as it is right after a reverse and it is under a slider, players can misclick it and lose their combo.
00:45:700 (2) - This slider should finish on 00:46:921 as I believe the vocals end up there and also it wouldn't have this weird gap.
00:49:363 (2) - Could try unstacking those as it would made more consistent also this is a strong beat!
00:54:246 (2,3,4,5) - Those circles doesn't feel well as it seems too dense to the song/map and you dont did that before. I would turn 00:54:944 (4,5) - into a slider.

[Halli's Hard]
The settings are high for a Hard diff like that also it is not even the hardest diff, there is Light Insane already. Make the AR 7 and the OD 6 or 6.5 and it will feel better.

[Jommy's Light Insane]
00:08:898 (1,2,3) - Suddenly follow the vocals here and then go back to the instrumental makes the patterns looks hard to read rhythmically as you is following instrumentals all the time.
00:17:793 (2,3) - Emphasys to the beat is weird here, the strong beat is on (3) and you didnt apply the jump on it, and yes on (2) which looks weird.
00:29:828 (1,1) - 00:40:991 (1,1) - Any reason for the NC spamming on those parts? If not, then use normal comboing here as it doesnt make sense as far I can see.
00:36:805 (1) - I would make this slider finish on red tick instead, as you seemed to be following the drums in this whole part.
01:01:921 (1) - This could get a bit more emphasys by putting a higher distance on it.
01:20:932 (3,1,2) - Unstacking those seems the best to do as it doenst make sense stacking strong beats like the one in (1).
01:24:944 (3,4) - Those could be blanketed for a better visual.

GL!

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-06T23:19:31+00:00

Woah didnt expect both of you to mod. Thanks guys

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-06T23:33:44+00:00

MkGuh wrote:
Hi from my queue with Rocket ♥

[General]
It would be better if you disable the widescreen support in the diffs. fixed
The BG resolution is not 1366x768. fixed

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-06T23:35:37+00:00

GhostZ wrote:
pls reconsider adding "pp map" to the tags fixed all thx!

kds pls

Renumi

Beatmap Nominator

904 posts

Joined July 2012

Renumi 2016-10-08T02:21:14+00:00

better not waste this kd w

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-08T04:06:50+00:00

Renigar wrote:
better not waste this kd w

comne back friend

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-10-08T04:07:27+00:00

MkGuh wrote:
Hi from my queue with Rocket ♥

[Halli's Hard]
The settings are high for a Hard diff like that also it is not even the hardest diff, there is Light Insane already. Make the AR 7 and the OD 6 or 6.5 and it will feel better. Aaay Sorry, Im used to always use Ar8 Od7 on my Hard's :^) I'll change it now.

GL!

Wow, that mod was exhausting to apply! :O

Here's my updated diff:

Rem best grill

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
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HappyRocket88

4,321 posts

Joined May 2014

HappyRocket88 2016-10-08T04:31:38+00:00

XD

Electoz

1,886 posts

Joined May 2015

Electoz 2016-10-11T15:24:41+00:00

[General]

Unused hitsounds
1. soft-hitclap7.wav

[Ora's Normal]

AR4 HP4, I would like to see these settings as the easiest difficulty in the set, also BPM is kinda low you don't need to use AR5 which is kinda high for Normal lol
00:00:526 (1) - Uh the recovery time is kinda edgy imo, I would just remove it and start at the same point with other difficulties.
00:34:014 (1,2) - Don't really recommend stacking stuff under sliderend in Normal since it's still too complicated for players.
00:42:386 (1,2) - Using the same rhythm from 00:45:177 (1,2) sounds better cuz 00:42:735 (2) doesn't really emphasize vocal really well compared to 00:45:700 (2) .
00:54:246 (2,3,4,5,6) - 5 clickable objects in a row are kinda random since you didn't do this anywhere else and there's nothing to emphasize or reflect either.
00:55:293 (5,6,1) - 00:56:688 (2,3) - Just personal preference but according to vocal you can create a same pattern on these places to reflect vocal(which is kinda repeated).
01:21:456 (1,2) - Seems random to me, if you're gonna leave 01:21:805 empty then why not do the same thing at 01:16:223 then? The rhythms on these places are very similar tho
You can add more 1/4 rhythms lol as long as you don't make it too hard since bpm of this song is pretty low and the rhythm atm is pretty bland, tldr I want to see more rhythm variations.

[Halli's Hard]

I would tone HP down a bit, 5 is better to keep the spread between Normal and Light Insane.
00:14:479 (6,7,8) - I assume you're following vocal right? The rhythm here can be less dense since the song is still calm, how about this rhythm?
00:25:642 (6) - Extended sliders usually don't play well if the red tick before it is audible/prominent. In this case 00:25:991 shouldn't be skipped.
00:51:281 (3,4) - The flow is kinda uncomfortable imo, try using followpoints as a reference for a smoother flow.
00:58:956 (3,4) - Ctrl+G rhythm? Since 00:59:130 is pretty prominent and should be clickable.
01:07:502 (5) - 01:08:898 (3,4) - You can use the same rhythm here imo since the vocal is kinda repeated, sth like what you did on 00:55:642 (2,3,4,5,6,7) would reflect vocal nicely.
01:10:293 (2) - That SV change is really misleading lol, at least There should be an NC on it.

[Jommy's Light Insane]

00:38:898 - Feels off imo cuz in this section you prioritized vocal over the bell sounding but I can't really come up with any good suggestion to map it with 00:39:072 lol
01:12:037 - Just my preference but I would replace the sliderend with a circle and stack it on 01:12:212 (3) cuz making a stack there will make a better transition for 01:12:386 (4,5,6,7,1) and the flow from that reverse arrow is kinda uncomfortable imo

[Silence]

00:50:758 (1) - Doesn't play really well imo cuz the rhythm changed here so you should change from an extended slider to a 1/4 slider or sth else, and also because 00:50:758 (1) doesn't play really well when combined with 00:51:107 (2) since there's no strong vocal there to emphasize on it.
01:00:525 (1,2) - You can decrease the spacing here to make 01:00:874 (3,4,5) more stand out.
01:22:502 (5) - I'm curious why you used an extended slider here cuz you didn't do it anywhere else in this section and I don't see anything to reflect with an extended slider either.

Lower diffs can be improved more imo, good luck~

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-11T20:25:22+00:00

[General]

Unused hitsounds
soft-hitclap7.wav fixed

[Silence]

00:50:758 (1) - Doesn't play really well imo cuz the rhythm changed here so you should change from an extended slider to a 1/4 slider or sth else, and also because 00:50:758 (1) doesn't play really well when combined with 00:51:107 (2) since there's no strong vocal there to emphasize on it. I agree. Reduced 00:50:758 (1) - to 1/4 and turned 00:51:107 (2) into 2x circles to reflect the kicks.
01:00:525 (1,2) - You can decrease the spacing here to make 01:00:874 (3,4,5) more stand out. Good idea. Reduced spacing on the circles and increased spacing on sliders slightly for more attention on the vocals.
01:22:502 (5) - I'm curious why you used an extended slider here cuz you didn't do it anywhere else in this section and I don't see anything to reflect with an extended slider either. now to think about it, idk lol. I think it was for variation but I can see how it's out of place in a section with no other extended sliders. Changed the slider to 1/4 and spaced the two circles out to be more like the previous patterns.
Lower diffs can be improved more imo, good luck~

Thanks for the mod Electoz!

Last edited by mardoka 2016-10-11T20:31:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-11T20:26:37+00:00

Also apparently Ora is having problems with his computer so he won't be able to respond to mods until that is resolved.

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-10-12T19:24:36+00:00

Electoz wrote:
[Halli's Hard]

I would tone HP down a bit, 5 is better to keep the spread between Normal and Light Insane. Sure C:
00:14:479 (6,7,8) - I assume you're following vocal right? The rhythm here can be less dense since the song is still calm, how about this rhythm? Nice catch!
00:25:642 (6) - Extended sliders usually don't play well if the red tick before it is audible/prominent. In this case 00:25:991 shouldn't be skipped. Never heard about that O: Alright.
00:51:281 (3,4) - The flow is kinda uncomfortable imo, try using followpoints as a reference for a smoother flow. It's smoother now C: Didnt changed the concept of the pattern doe, I just tidy the angles.
00:58:956 (3,4) - Ctrl+G rhythm? Since 00:59:130 is pretty prominent and should be clickable. Good
01:07:502 (5) - 01:08:898 (3,4) - You can use the same rhythm here imo since the vocal is kinda repeated, sth like what you did on 00:55:642 (2,3,4,5,6,7) would reflect vocal nicely. I thought about it and tried to do it, but Im keeping like that C: That's so I can keep the rhytm structure I used for all that part (Highlighting some predefined withe ticks with jumps). Your idea is good, but I want to keep the white tick jumps in that section very consistent.
01:10:293 (2) - That SV change is really misleading lol, at least There should be an NC on it. Well, I think is understandable. A long slider most of the times means -hold-, now, the players holds, and then notices the lot of tick points, which an experienced player can recognize as a -long slowed note-, and the song itself also warns about a long vocal note, so overall, I think is good C: The new combo is in 01:09:944 (1) - to contrast with 01:08:898 (3) - .
Lower diffs can be improved more imo, good luck~

Excelent mod O: Thank you!

Oh, and looks like this post just started a new page on the thread, let's cheer! Have another from me nubery! XDxdDdxD

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Title:ninelie (TV Size)
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Artist:Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
ArtistUnicode:Aimer with chelly (EGOIST)
Creator:nubery
Version:Halli's Hard
Source:甲鉄城のカバネリ
Tags:jommy skinnyjommy hallidayasr halli ora sawano hiroyuki koutetsujou no kabaneri of the iron fortress ed
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Last edited by Halliday 2016-10-12T19:29:54+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Halliday

181 posts

Joined July 2015

Halliday 2016-10-12T19:29:21+00:00

And yet another

to reach the 30 star priority!

HYPE

mardoka

235 posts

Joined May 2013

Topic Starter

mardoka 2016-10-12T21:06:42+00:00

xd

Ozato Fumika

Beatmap Nominator

3,379 posts

Joined July 2013

Ozato Fumika 2016-10-14T01:12:05+00:00

very short

SPOILER

20:58 nubery: hey~
20:58 Momoka: へｙ
20:58 Momoka: hey
21:01 nubery: umm do you think you can take a look at my map ><
21:01 Momoka: sure
21:01 *nubery is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1082068 Aimer with chelly (EGOIST) - ninelie (TV Size)]
21:02 nubery: thanks~
21:03 Momoka: wow nice map
21:04 Momoka: plays good
21:04 nubery: thank you :o
21:06 Momoka: i dont think i have anything to say about the map
21:06 Momoka: very good
21:07 nubery: oh wow
21:07 nubery: so you think I can get this rankedÉ
21:07 nubery: ?*
21:07 Momoka: ill have to see the other diffs too
21:08 Momoka: other diff looks fine too
21:08 Momoka: except hard diff should consider mapping 00:39:595 (1,1,1) -  this part
21:09 Momoka: not very good since this is only tv size :3
21:09 Momoka: and some spacing problems like this 00:57:037 (7,1,2) - 
21:09 Momoka: this can be really confusing with lower ar
21:10 nubery: ah
21:10 nubery: hmm Ill let him know about that
21:10 Momoka: yeah, good luck ~~
21:10 nubery: thanks :3

Ora

959 posts

Joined November 2014

Ora 2016-10-14T04:39:47+00:00

Ora's Normal
We met again Ora! Good my Metadata investigation on Attack the barbarian was helpfull :'D

00:16:921 (4,1) - Slightly imperfect blanket. Just move the slider end point to x:416 y:324 keeping the slider shape but fixed the blanket

00:34:014 (1,2) - I would unstack this, I have no true reason to suggest this, is just a feeling, so it's up to you xD all remapped ! the slow part is mapped terrible lol

00:39:595 (1) - I would also turn this note into a slider, ending here 00:40:642 - . I actually disagree. This is the beginning of the "more quiet" area of the slow part so I want to map lightly. Your idea works, but I want to keep my rhythm here

00:43:781 - This is like a strong white tick. I would place something there, feels empty O: true, fixed

Thanks hope to map more with you

[Normal]
00:00:526 (1,1) - the gap betwween spinner and the next note should be at least 2/1 i remember.......may be it was a unrankable warning I'll let a BN deal with this issue, because it also depends on the BPM of the song. But you are correct, it could be an issue
00:34:014 (1,2) - if you decide to stack 1/1, you'd better not stack other ryhthm like 1/2 at 00:49:014 (1,2) - remapped
00:36:805 (1,2) - maybe we can better the blanket should be fine now
01:23:549 (5,1) - blanket 1 may be more pretty to look imo remapped this part, so there's no more blanket :/

Thanks for the mod

Normal
At the beginning I can't really tell if you're focusing on the vocals on the instruments. You map the vocals at 00:13:084 (3) with a 1/1 slider but then don't do the same for 00:07:502 (3) and 00:10:293 (3,4) . If you want to follow the vocals then ctrl + g 00:10:293 (3,4) and turn 00:07:502 (3) into a 1/1 slider. agreed. Idk why I was so inconsistent. I fixed
similar stuff about your choice of rhythm, you map a held vocal here 00:45:700 (2) but map another held vocal at 00:43:084 with a slider end I'm really confused about how to map the rhythm here...any ideas are welcome...
00:45:700 (2) - end this on the red tick Is white okay? (where I have it now)
01:05:409 (2) - use this rhythm, the way it is currently it feels really forced and empty http://puu.sh/rqnjb/47e1baa3bf.jpg agreed
01:13:084 (1,2,3,4) - It doesn't feel like this is mapping anything I also don't feel it's appropiate to map this part with the similar object density as your kiai time ok...so I replaced that section with a spinner, but ofc the spinner might cause controversy with how close it is to the next object.
01:27:735 (1) - same thing about the spinner in the easy diff. Also would be better to silence the end fixed and made the beginning and end spinners silent
One last thing, because the bpm is 86 you could have included some blue ticks and just mapped it 1/4 as, as it stands, this can be very much passable as an easy diff. since this is the new "easy" diff now, I think it's fine

Thanks for the mod Kisses sorry for late reply.

HappyRocket88 wrote:
Hellow! From MkGuh and Rocket's queue! >u<

[ Ora's Normal] Hellow Ora. Quite polished and solid normal you've made here. Just some few issues I'd like to point out regarding the diff. Feel free to deny them since I'm not a really experienced modder. /u\
00:00:526 (1) - First things first, this spinner ends on a very questionable spot. As it is right now, it feels it doesn't emphasize anything plus the purpose of the placing it stops over a worthless point. If I may say, I think it would be better if it ended here 00:03:316 - to highlight better the long.bell sound it catches from the start. Please, try it! Agree and fixed. I started a 1/2 slider at 00:04:014 (1) -
00:00:526 (1) - On the other hand, considering the sound-feedback of this spinner, I believe it would be a more epic experience if you could add some green lines to control volume feedback this spinner gives while it matches the increasing of the tone of the music. Moreover, as long as it highlights nicely the bell-sound, it would hurt no one if you could try this on it. I like it HR added that for the first slider and at 01:13:084 (1) - . I think I will stick with Kisses idea about the last spinner
Example
Timeline

Timing Points
526,697.674418604651,4,2,1,10,1,0
874,-100,4,2,1,15,0,0
1223,-100,4,2,1,20,0,0
1572,-100,4,2,1,25,0,0
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3316,-100,4,2,1,30,0,0
The current values of OD and AR are way higher for this kind of normal. I think it would be better if you coudl reduced them to 4 to make it match to the lowest diff accordingly. no more lowest diff, but I will still change according to Electoz in his mod
00:10:293 (3,4) - This doesn't flow but rhythmically talking, the emphasis lacks a bit of strong since the vocals are being ignored here. The way I see things, vocals, specifically in this section become more relevant than the current instruments, therefore, I think it would be better if you could which this rhythm by doing ctrl + g to give a more epic emphasis to the beats in matter. It wouldn't hurt to give it a try! >w< Consider doing the same here 00:21:805 (4,5) - Yup! fixed in Kisses mod
00:34:014 (1,2) - For readability purposes, these kind of stacks are rather suggested to be avoided while mapping since the hitburst covers so directly the number of the next object hence, players might get confused at it. Wouldn't it flow more natural if you kept the DS here too? remapped!
00:47:270 (3) - 00:42:386 (1) - In this issue, I'd like to mention that consistency in terms of mapping is important. We can either make them both clickable or ending over a slider-tail. /u\ I think I fixed this part. The rhythm here is so confusing to me...
01:27:735 (1) - Would you mind adding a green line where this spinner stops? Its because since the sound stops early it would be better to have that sound muted. /w\ muted

Sorry for the late reply HR. Dealing with IRL stuff and had no internet for over 1 week

[Normal]
The settings seems so high for the lowest diff and for this normal aswell, I'd recommend lowering AR to 4 or 4.5 and OD too.
00:34:014 (1,2) - This stacking can become confusing to normal players as it is right after a reverse and it is under a slider, players can misclick it and lose their combo. yup this is remapped now ^^
00:45:700 (2) - This slider should finish on 00:46:921 as I believe the vocals end up there and also it wouldn't have this weird gap. I ended it on the white tick now...since it's the lowest diff I think it's fine now?
00:49:363 (2) - Could try unstacking those as it would made more consistent also this is a strong beat! done!
00:54:246 (2,3,4,5) - Those circles doesn't feel well as it seems too dense to the song/map and you dont did that before. I would turn 00:54:944 (4,5) - into a slider. yup! fixed

Thanks MkGuh ^^ short but really helpful.

[Ora's Normal]

AR4 HP4, I would like to see these settings as the easiest difficulty in the set, also BPM is kinda low you don't need to use AR5 which is kinda high for Normal lol yeah we had an easy diff, and I just never changed it. I like to get opinions from modders about this when a mapset is complete. Changed
00:00:526 (1) - Uh the recovery time is kinda edgy imo, I would just remove it and start at the same point with other difficulties.
00:34:014 (1,2) - Don't really recommend stacking stuff under sliderend in Normal since it's still too complicated for players. yeah this was remapped
00:42:386 (1,2) - Using the same rhythm from 00:45:177 (1,2) sounds better cuz 00:42:735 (2) doesn't really emphasize vocal really well compared to 00:45:700 (2) . This section got remapped before I got to your mod, would you mind giving me an opinion on the rhythm now? I might pm you in-game if you don't see this reply
00:54:246 (2,3,4,5,6) - 5 clickable objects in a row are kinda random since you didn't do this anywhere else and there's nothing to emphasize or reflect either. I agree, 1/2 slider at 00:54:944 - now
00:55:293 (5,6,1) - 00:56:688 (2,3) - Just personal preference but according to vocal you can create a same pattern on these places to reflect vocal(which is kinda repeated). hmmm I will think about this, but I see what you're saying...
01:21:456 (1,2) - Seems random to me, if you're gonna leave 01:21:805 empty then why not do the same thing at 01:16:223 then? The rhythms on these places are very similar tho remapped in earlier mod. I have consistency issues
You can add more 1/4 rhythms lol as long as you don't make it too hard since bpm of this song is pretty low and the rhythm atm is pretty bland, tldr I want to see more rhythm variations. since it's now the lowest diff in the set, can I keep without 1/4 ?

thanks electoz as always, hopefully you can reply to some of my stuff

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