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RemmyX25
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[size=85:1337]This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, April 12, 2024 at 8:24:02 PM[/size:1337]

[b:1337]Artist:[/b:1337] *NSYNC
[b:1337]Title:[/b:1337] I Want You Back
[b:1337]Tags:[/b:1337] English Teen Pop Dance-pop Justin Timberlake JC Chasez Chris Kirkpatrick Joey Fatone Lance Bass Rolled
[b:1337]BPM:[/b:1337] 112.06
[b:1337]Filesize:[/b:1337] 26154kb
[b:1337]Play Time:[/b:1337] 03:16
[b:1337]Difficulties Available:[/b:1337]
[list:1337][*:1337][url=https://osu.ppy.sh/web/maps/NSYNC%20-%20I%20Want%20You%20Back%20(RemmyX25)%20%5bEasy%5d.osu:1337]Easy[/url:1337] (1.87 stars, 116 notes)
[*:1337][url=https://osu.ppy.sh/web/maps/NSYNC%20-%20I%20Want%20You%20Back%20(RemmyX25)%20%5bHard%5d.osu:1337]Hard[/url:1337] (3.21 stars, 343 notes)
[*:1337][url=https://osu.ppy.sh/web/maps/NSYNC%20-%20I%20Want%20You%20Back%20(RemmyX25)%20%5bNormal%5d.osu:1337]Normal[/url:1337] (2.69 stars, 211 notes)
[*:1337][url=https://osu.ppy.sh/web/maps/NSYNC%20-%20I%20Want%20You%20Back%20(RemmyX25)%20%5bRolled's%20Insane%5d.osu:1337]Rolled's Insane[/url:1337] (3.86 stars, 349 notes)
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[size=150:1337][b:1337]Download: [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/d/8949:1337]*NSYNC - I Want You Back[/url:1337][/b:1337][/size:1337]
[size=120:1337][b:1337]Download: [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/d/8949n:1337]*NSYNC - I Want You Back (no video)[/url:1337][/b:1337][/size:1337]
[b:1337]Information:[/b:1337] [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/8949:1337]Scores/Beatmap Listing[/url:1337]
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14 and a half years later, it's finally done.

A special thank you to Aranel and Bloxi for help updating this to modern standards, and fixing things in ways i didn't know were possible.
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Kytoxid
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Take a look-see. :)

Download: NSYNC - I Want You Back (RemmyX25) [Kytoxid's Normal].osu
jericho2442
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first off.....both normal and easy feel like the same beatmaps just with different circle size to me :/ , the postion on the notes a different, just to me there a lil too much the same

once this go's into pending remember to add tags, preview point ect ect ;)

[Easy]
(Suggestion) 00:37:762 (7) - i think a new combo would go nice here, since i think its a lil long atm this combo
02:35:834 (5,1) - i think this would play MUCH better if it had the spacing of 02:32:621 (5,1) -
02:39:047 (1,2,3) - line these up better, atm the distance of (1,2) looks rather ugly :/ srry if you think its nazi, but with the big hit circles it REALLY stands out
(suggestion) 02:59:662 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - - you could line these up, i myself dont mind either way, just thought i would point it out that they are out of line ;)

i have to say i really really liked this map :) great job

[Kyto's Normal]
i HATE the 1 combo's in this map, i think there horrid >_>

(suggestion) there quite a few nazi probs and some ugly placings like this 01:02:662 (1,2,3,4,5) - , but i think your good enough to go through your map if you want and fix them, i dont really wanna post them all up

02:05:848 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - horridly ugly placing, something like this looks MUCH better

02:43:331 (1,2,3) - i dont like how these over lap, the whole map except from this part does not have overlapping slider, thus these feel very out of place
02:51:899 (7) - new combo, for the change from following the vocal to following the rythm, looks nicer
02:56:182 (5) - same as above

also aimod finds alot of problems with spacing to say this is only a normal diff map :/

___________________________________________________
<3 easy and normal is ok, overall nice job ;)

tell me once hard is done and i will mod and 100% star it ;)
mm201
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Here you go:

Download: NSYNC - I Want You Back (RemmyX25) [MM's Beginner].osu
Rolled
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Remmy wan sneak peak

Btw remmy, every difficulty but Hard has a lot of unsnapped notes.

edit: Here you are fine gentleman. Finished~

editedit: some hitsound shit, and fixing the .5 section for taiko (like i care lols)

editeditedit: rarrrgh add kiai to the last 3 sections when you submit this then. nvm

Download: NSYNC - I Want You Back (RemmyX25) [Rolled].osu
RemmyX25
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lol oops, i didnt even notice the unsnapped notes. thanks


also your difficulty is pure awesomeness
RemmyX25
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bumping revival and what not, im almost done
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Agnes
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Bastard. I didn't find anything, so I'll star this...
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RemmyX25
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Leaving this here for my own reference:

Others: 16,875
Rolled: 14,733
Lilac
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Like I said in IRC.

I'm hitting 3ms early for Rolled's timing.

Consider moving it to 1,882, same BPM and use x0.5 for the beginning part...snapping if necessary.
Beuchi
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Hi!~

Remember these are just suggestions you can always ignore :P

~MM's Beginner~
No problems here!

~Easy~
00:01:857 (1) - The ending point sounds weird... IMO, finishing the slider 1/1 earlier or adding a note at 00:03:997 sounds better for me.
01:36:119 (1,1,1) - I'd decrease the spacing a bit here, it's kinda harsh for an Easy (in fact, the yellow slider is even more spaced than the other ones)
01:48:434 (3,4) - I'd make (4) a New Combo if you're going to keep the jump (though I still think it's harsh...).

~Hard~
- Decrease OD and Approach 1 tick? I got kinda surprised at the speed when I played it...
- The second offset is different here =x

~Rolled~
- Where's the first timing section? D:

Not so much to say, so fun map~
Good luck Remmy! *star*
Lizbeth
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hi sexy!

Easy
is hard for an easy imo x.x
01:48:434 (3,4) - wrong space there
01:36:119 (1,1,1) - this spacing i find it hard for an easy
I'm just wondering why not rename this to normal, and beginner to easy??

Others diff
Great ^^

star <3
RemmyX25
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Beuchi-chan wrote:

~Easy~
00:01:857 (1) - The ending point sounds weird... IMO, finishing the slider 1/1 earlier or adding a note at 00:03:997 sounds better for me. Fix'd
01:36:119 (1,1,1) - I'd decrease the spacing a bit here, it's kinda harsh for an Easy (in fact, the yellow slider is even more spaced than the other ones) Fix'd ?
01:48:434 (3,4) - I'd make (4) a New Combo if you're going to keep the jump (though I still think it's harsh...). Whoops that wasnt supposed to be a jump

~Hard~
- Decrease OD and Approach 1 tick? I got kinda surprised at the speed when I played it... Okay, but only by one tick.
- The second offset is different here =x whoops

~Rolled~
- Where's the first timing section? D: He doesn't use it ;~;

Lizbeth wrote:

hi sexy!

Easy
is hard for an easy imo x.x
01:48:434 (3,4) - wrong space there lol whoops
01:36:119 (1,1,1) - this spacing i find it hard for an easy toned it down a bit
I'm just wondering why not rename this to normal, and beginner to easy?? Because it really is rather easy?
Thanks for your help guys!!
Mashley
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MM's Beginner
Fine, but I reckon there's a bit too much copypasta.
Kiai :(

Easy
02:03:694 (5) - Fix the spacing >:(
Map generally feels unstructured.
Difficulty is more like a normal imo

Hard
01:43:348 (1,1) - Remove new combos
01:47:229 (1) - ^
02:07:175 (1,1,1) - ^
02:43:317 (1) - ^

Rolled
Good
mm201
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Voluntary update--colour hax, perfect sliders, volume changes.

Download: NSYNC - I Want You Back (RemmyX25) [MM's Beginner].osu
RemmyX25
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Mashley wrote:

Easy
02:03:694 (5) - Fix the spacing >:( Ooops. >_> you win KD for noticing this when i didnt
Map generally feels unstructured. :(
Difficulty is more like a normal imo :((((

Hard
01:43:348 (1,1) - Remove new combos Eh. Changed it a tad, but didnt remove BOTH.
01:47:229 (1) - ^ I disagree
02:07:175 (1,1,1) - ^ Fix'd a bit
02:43:317 (1) - ^ I disagree

Rolled
Good
Thanks for your input!

Will upload changes when I am able to log in again Dx
All done
Lissette
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Hihi Remmy~

Add MetalMario201 and Rolled to the tags ^^

Hard
01:01:048 (2) - separate a bit from 1?
check with AIMod, there are 3 unsnapped notes ><

Nice map and song!! *NSYNC<3

Star!!
RemmyX25
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Lissette wrote:

Add MetalMario201 and Rolled to the tags ^^ Done

Hard
01:01:048 (2) - separate a bit from 1? Fixed
check with AIMod, there are 3 unsnapped notes >< Fixed offsets on Hard and Easy. Not going to touch the guest difficulties because they don't need the extra offset, and Rolled starts at a COMPLETELY different point
RemmyX25
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Since several people thought [Easy] was too hard for an easy, i've renamed it to Normal.
Shohei Ohtani
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Overall:
Make kiai same on all diffs.
[trollercoaster] Remove SB 8-) [/trollercoaster]
That god damn timing.

Rolled:
00:18:480 (1) - Remove combo
00:19:016 (2) - New combo
00:22:764 (1) - Remove combo
00:23:299 (2) - New combo
00:34:008 (1) - Dat slider D:
00:49:000 (5) - Touches the HP bar
00:59:708 (1) - It's not bad, but it can be better.
01:01:850 (1) - ^
01:12:559 (1) - Put this on the y axis?
01:24:606 (6) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/27862 D:
01:47:897 (4) - Touches the HP bar
01:55:393 (1) - New combo
02:38:227 - Remove kiai.
03:12:494 (5) - Horizontal symmetry?
End the last kiai time.

Hard:
00:06:137 (6) - This looks fine when it first appears, but then in this direction, D:
00:10:416 (6) - ;~;
00:27:583 (6) - Symmetry?
00:35:882 (5) - ouch
00:44:716 (6) - Symmetry?
00:53:016 (4) - ARGH
00:54:086 (6) - OGH
01:02:252 (1) - Remove new combo
01:10:819 (1) - ^
01:55:393 (6) - Add new combo
01:57:267 (1) - Remove new combo
02:51:077 (6) - Add new combo
02:52:416 (1) - Remove new combo

Normal:
00:09:346 (1) - Points should probably have horizontal symmetry
00:31:866 (6) - myface.png
00:50:071 (7) - ;~;
01:08:275 (6) - :idea:
01:23:267 (5) - :?
01:33:708 (1) - :|
02:03:960 (6) - :!:
02:59:644 (6) - :evil:
03:10:353 (6) - Overlap D:

MM's:
Silly copy-paste, but fine

Take that Sakku.
RemmyX25
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Surprisingly, despite the wall of text, i did make a few changes based on CDFAs input. If I didn't change an option, I did consider it but disagreed (mostly with Rolled's difficulty, but in a few other places as well.) For what he did help me change, I gave him KD for (i fixed some ugly sliders and what not)
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Oh yay an NSYNC map, here we go!
[osz File Scan!]
You need an approachcirlce.png even if it's the default one.

[Rolled]
Disable Countdown?
Uhh... sorry Remmy but the first red line must be the same on all diffs.
01:21:126 (1) - Could look better, maybe try something like this?
SPOILER
Why does this diff have more kiai than the others?

[Hard]
00:10:416 (6) - Could try to make a better Arc, something like:
SPOILER
01:59:676 (1,2,3) - Maybe make all 3 sliders curve in the same direction? also (2) could be more curvy i think, try to make it like (3)?
02:07:172 (1,2,3) - Align with (6) and (4) on the other side, diagonally? as in this for example? (just 2 or 3 grids up)
SPOILER
or Align them horizontally but would need more tweaking, due to spacing.
02:43:314 (1,2) - Make a mirror of each other?
02:58:305 (1,2,3,4) - Currently (2) and (3) are closer to (4) than to (1) Try to make more symmetrical? and on that note (2) and (4) are closer to (1) than to (3).

[Normal]
The inherited timing sections are unsnapped a few ms behind, normally it wouldn't be a problem with the new build, but it is a problem with hitsound adjustments on objects that need an exact position like a spinner end or kiai time
00:01:857 (1,2) - Make them more symmetrical? such as making the middle slider tick centered with the grid.
00:38:024 (8) - Not sure if this is intentional, but you could try to make the first part of the slider curve around (9) perfectly without touching it? right now it has a sharp corner rather than a curve.
00:49:000 (6) - Since this repeats often it probably is intentional but, can u try to make a less sharp corner on this an all other sliders that look like a pacman mouth? o.o they look weird.
01:33:708 (1) - The waypoints go off the slider making the slider look incomplete, if you were aiming for a wavy slider with 2 curvings, you will need to drag the end point closer. Something like:
SPOILER
02:48:668 (4) - Make the wave curves less sharp if possible?

[MM's Beginner]
Not much to say except, not sure if that's a good slider velocity for an Easy
Unsnapped inherited timing sections.
02:06:101 (1,2,3) - Center on the X Axys?

[Overall]
Love the map, love the rythm, love the flow, love the song, just a few things about your sliders, and some other technical stuff, SP+5
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mm201
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Please remove the first timing section.

CDFA wrote:

MM's:
Silly copy-paste, but fine
fuck you

Sakura Hana wrote:

[MM's Beginner]
Not much to say except, not sure if that's a good slider velocity for an Easy Too slow? :P
Unsnapped inherited timing sections. Remmy changed the timing. Not that this has any effect on anything.
02:06:101 (1,2,3) - Center on the X Axys? Did you try, uh..., PLAYTESTING IT? You'll find that the TOP note of the stack is exactly on the center line. Current → YOUR CHANGE
Resnapped timing sections & breaks, removed the first section, and renamed to MM's Easy.

Download: NSYNC - I Want You Back (RemmyX25) [MM's Easy].osu
Sakura
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Yes i did playtest it, just that when checking it in the editor i kinda forgot ._. sorry MM
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I love it
RemmyX25
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Sakura Hana wrote:

Oh yay an NSYNC map, here we go!
[osz File Scan!]
You need an approachcirlce.png even if it's the default one. <--- Uh that rule really only applies to hit circle overlay.

[Rolled]
Disable Countdown?
Uhh... sorry Remmy but the first red line must be the same on all diffs. <---- Rolled starts a different time. I've done the calculations, it works out.
01:21:126 (1) - Could look better, maybe try something like this? <--- Doesnt really make a difference?
SPOILER
Why does this diff have more kiai than the others? <--- because its not my difficulty?
I don't really agree with anything else, except ive added MetalMarios new difficulty.
whymeman
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Alright then....

Noticed something odd.... Isn't it supposed to be "MetalMario201", not "Metalmario201" in the Tags? Also... 320kbps .mp3?

[MM's Easy]

Looks fine so far. Simple and nicely made like it should be.

[Normal]

Not bad. I like the smooth beat flow in this one.

[Hard]

Looks good to me. The beat flow also makes sense, which is also something important to have.

[Rolled]

... Rolling smoothly. Not over or underdone.


Not bad. Just about sorted out and seems ready for a bubble then (No need to kudosu this post).
Alace
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<Normal and Hard>
use offset:-259 for the first timing section
use offset 14733 for the second section
No need to set that 25977 timing line
don`t forget to resmap all notes

in fact, you only need one offset in this song, but you use 56.08 BPM for the first timing section
if you use x 0.5 SV with 112.16 BPM, you will have more sliderticks

also, your green lines are out of place XD, some of them are late 4ms amd some of them are early
it`s better to fix them

Rolled`s diff <3
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whymeman wrote:

Alright then....

Noticed something odd.... Isn't it supposed to be "MetalMario201", not "Metalmario201" in the Tags? tags aren't case sensitive

Also... 320kbps .mp3? <--- http://puu.sh/fvp
Derekku
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Since you asked me to mod this previously... here we go!

RemmyX25 wrote:

Sakura Hana wrote:

You need an approachcirlce.png even if it's the default one.
Uh that rule really only applies to hit circle overlay.
Wrong. If you're including skin elements, then you should include the full set (e.g., hitcircle, overlay, approach) OR set the preferred skin to default to make up for missing elements. Otherwise, if the player is using a skin with a custom approachcircle, that one will be used and possibly look very weird. It would be much easier for you to just add a default approachcircle and avoid future issues. :p


[General]
*Lead-in isn't exactly necessary for Easy/Rolled.
*BPM/Offsets are incorrect. 56.03/1,882 and 112.06/16,874 are the two that are correct and should be applied to all four difficulties for consistency. Normal's first offset was early and not even correct. For the bpm: 112.06/2 is 56.03, not 56.08 (you can tell that it's too early just be listening to the metronome). Plus, the second offset wasn't even on the downbeat. =| Hard was similar but had an extra uninherited section with more offset/downbeat problems. It looks like Alace caught this as well (save for the fact that 56.08 is incorrect), but I say just to keep the second uninherited section since the doubled sliderticks (by using one bpm the entire time) at the beginning sounds strange. Also, I moved the second uninherited section to the next measure since that's really when the "faster" part of the song actually starts.
*Actually after playtesting, those offsets feel just a tiny bit late. Try -5ing both of those.

[MM's Easy]
*dat colorhax
00:28:118 (5,1) - dat spacing
03:10:888 (5,1,2) - spacing like this is a bit tricky since there's no overlapping of the notes :s

[Normal]
*Why is the kiai different from Hard?

[Hard]
01:47:228 (1,2) - should be further away from the last stack
03:11:290 - I'm a bit confused as to why the last kiai section starts here... (not on a white tick and not on any important beat)

[Rolled]
02:47:597 (2) - (nazi) move the top control point down one grid so that the slider start/end and sliderticks are a bit more symmetrical (still not 100% perfect, but should be a slight improvement)

This mapset should be pretty strong after those timing issues are fixed. Nice job!
mm201
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Derekku wrote:

*BPM/Offsets are incorrect. 56.03/1,882 and 112.06/16,874 are the two that are correct and should be applied to all four difficulties for consistency.
Or just follow Alace's lead and use one section (112.060, 1,877) for the entire map. Make sure all green lines and breaks are snapped after changing timing. (Make sure the gaps between objects and breaks are not coloured teal.)

Derekku wrote:

[MM's Easy]
*dat colorhax
00:28:118 (5,1) - dat spacing With 2½ beats between, it's fair even for Easy.
03:10:888 (5,1,2) - spacing like this is a bit tricky since there's no overlapping of the notes :s Totally intuitive inis1/2.
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why is this not ranked yet silly man
RemmyX25
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a) college

b) i really dont want to fux with my interesting timing sections because yours starts on a completely different time than i do, so our offsets are different
Care to help fuck with them?


Also feel free to fix anything in your difficulty
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