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VINXIS

generl

  1. kaifin is missing kaifn in tagz :/
  2. f

gmt

  1. 00:14:801 (4) - nc hre plz,
  2. 00:46:380 (4,1) - sud switch ncs here tbh cuz of downbeat/newmeasur
  3. 00:46:643 (1,2) - isnt ths p wierd design-wis cuz of how th sliderheads overlap + the slidershapez r kinda zz wen ther put so clos 2gether in the same angle
  4. 00:54:801 (4,1) - sud switch here vocalz giv a new measur feeling at 4
  5. 00:56:906 (1) - and thn nc here cuz of th new measur thing
  6. 01:01:380 (5,1) - 01:03:222 (3) - lo nc thing,
  7. 01:20:064 (2,1) - 01:22:169 (2) - h
  8. 01:49:538 - same thing here , , ,
  9. th ncing choicez jstu feel random 2 me throught th map cuz its sometimez basing off of new measurez/downbeatz and then its basing off fo smth tht i hav no idea wot it actaly is basing off of D btu yhjea

pkhg

  1. 00:54:801 (1,2,3) -
    hell yea

    and for all the other instances of this pleas..
  2. 01:51:906 (2) - nc plz,
  3. 02:08:748 (2) - here 2..
  4. 02:23:222 (6) - and thuis for anime

miln

  1. 00:48:485 (1) - sud put a circl ther and strat the spinnr at the blu tik aftr : /

fiery

  1. 01:00:590 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - this in genrl jstu seems rly weird 2 me in editor and in playng.. th anglez and spacing is jsut d tbh.,
  2. 01:12:959 (2,2) - triggrd shity overlap,,
  3. 01:41:117 (1,2) - tbh stak.
  4. ur intro is rlly weird cuz the overlapz r weird and jstu goez in a circle btu thn its not lik tht so its lik gh

kafin

  1. 00:21:117 - to 00:32:827 - i stil cant hear th guitar thing ur tryn 2 map 2 and im using headphonez this time, ,, , :/
  2. 00:46:249 (2,1) - sud blanket cuz thts betr design-wis tbh, ,,
  3. 01:11:906 (1,1) - 01:12:432 (1,1) -
  4. 01:23:222 (1,2) - nic 1
  5. the ending is th best part of th map,
  6. also modding assistant said ther was an offscreen obj btu im 2 lazy 2 wait for tht 2 take an hour to load again so find it urself thx.

pish

  1. 00:21:117 - i wish iw asnt fuckjgin retarded so i knew wot u and kaifin r mapping 2 at this part FUCk
  2. if u havmt, get testplays and chek the spacing gimmik thing (wher ur 1/1 spacing is 2742394x smallr than 1/2 lik 01:27:696 (1,2,1,2) - 01:13:748 (1,2,1) - as an exampl of wot im talkgina bout) thy look lik thy will notelok/play bad for som ppl.. .
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puxtu

VINXIS wrote:

generl

  1. kaifin is missing kaifn in tagz :/
  2. f
vinxis is blind confirmed I am dumb confirmed
fieryrage

VINXIS wrote:

fiery

  1. 01:00:590 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - this in genrl jstu seems rly weird 2 me in editor and in playng.. th anglez and spacing is jsut d tbh., people testplayed this and it played fine for them so idk what drugs ur smoke
  2. 01:12:959 (2,2) - triggrd shity overlap,, those arente ven meant to overlap lo changed blanket so its MORE Clearly what its SUPosed to be
  3. 01:41:117 (1,2) - tbh stak. a
  4. ur intro is rlly weird cuz the overlapz r weird and jstu goez in a circle btu thn its not lik tht so its lik gh only thing i can really see wrong with intro is 00:11:248 (5,6,7) - this stack and im prob gonna change that but idk how so g
raised ar to 9.5 because broc probably should be ar 9.4 but id give a fukc ok thanks
Kaifin
when im not in the tags of my own diff fuck

VINXIS wrote:

kafin

  1. 00:21:117 - to 00:32:827 - i stil cant hear th guitar thing ur tryn 2 map 2 and im using headphonez this time, ,, , :/
    i cleared out some space to fully explain
    00:21:117 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - these notes are all the same tone and note, the first half of this segment btw will be mapped to this guitar riff
    00:22:169 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3) - the note changes here, and remains the same the whole highlight [this made me realize that i had an inconsistent NC so fixed]
    hopefully from those two examples, u can here the guitar that im mapping to until it switches over to drums at 00:27:432 (1,2) - through the 1/2 + repeat buffer, then its just drums till the end of the linked timestamp :9
  2. 00:46:249 (2,1) - sud blanket cuz thts betr design-wis tbh, ,, fuk this is the shit thats offscreen lol fixd
  3. 01:11:906 (1,1) - 01:12:432 (1,1) - just fuck my shit up
  4. 01:23:222 (1,2) - nic 1 fuk u omar
  5. the ending is th best part of th map, ur the best part of the map
  6. also modding assistant said ther was an offscreen obj btu im 2 lazy 2 wait for tht 2 take an hour to load again so find it urself thx.dont worry i found it during the mod -_
i also fixed some NC inconsistencies, AR to 9.7, and added myself to the tags of my own diff L O L

until the map is updated i'm just using this reply post as a changelog for the map and changing the code each time i edit it!

trying to find the log of my mini irc with doormat so he can post it zzz

small irc with mithew applid + changes from playtest feedback

due to advice received from pishi i went through the entire map, looked at every pattern and thought about my concepts + flow and wrote either explanations or changes for every single point! that log is listed below, feel free to click and read but it's really long as a warning

TLDR to the box: i changed some stuff and the stuff i didn't change i feel is justified unless points to combat mine can be brought up that i find agreeable, this doesn't mean the map is perfect i'm just trying to justify why i did what i did with it

self mod? idk what to call this lol
okay so i preemptively am making this text document in an attempt to justify the flow of my map in case i actually need, i'll be going through each pattern step by step and either explain why i used it, or change it to something more fitting

do keep in mind that throughout the mapping process of this diff, i got 10+ playtests and multiple mapper opinions on the map, so it's not just a bunch of random patterns strewn together, i tried to make it a difficult flow that was still logical and satisfying for the player to play

also keep in mind the target audience for this diff, most likely #500 and lower players have the level of finger control at this bpm required to FC or even play this kind of a map in the first place, which is definitely put to the test with rhythms that are basically checkboxes of "can you play X rhythm 4 times without just failing at 228 bpm"

with the disclaimers out of the way, into the diff:

  1. 00:10:327 (1,2) - first point of possible complaint, there isn't anything inherently wrong with this flow its just a bit edgy and jarring, which you'll find are central themes of the map lol perfectly playable, and i think it's fitting to up the intensity for when the key rhythms of the map are introduced half a second after this point
  2. 00:10:722 (2) - you may be asking, why wasn't this a line with 00:10:327 (1,2) - for better flow? and i'd say "because i'm on fucking meth", changed for both design and flow improvement
  3. 00:12:432 (1) - this slider was triggering me so i made it straight with the triplet that follows it [00:12:959 (3,4,5)]
  4. 00:12:696 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - okay, this segment is the first that probably would raise some red flags flow wise, which is understandable because it's a part of 1 of 3 of the most intense segments of the map! we can break it down pattern by pattern so i can explain how and why the flow works regardless of being rough and difficult to read/tap
  5. 00:12:696 (1,2,3,4,5) - the hardest part of the whole highlight section
  6. 00:13:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - still hard but easier
  7. 00:13:748 (1,2,3,4,5) - easier than the last
  8. 00:14:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - and finally to here, which is the easiest of the 4 (the angle was slightly changed to make it even more ergonomic and easy for the player to hit)

    now, with this in mind: this flow is NOT hard to hit, at least not aim wise. the difficulty comes from the rhythm, and that was completely the intent and i think that there might be complaints about it just because yeah, it is a bit difficult at this bpm, but just because it isn't a mega ergonomic pp hexagon pattern DOESN'T mean it's bad, or even has bad flow at the core. 00:12:696 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - follow the same directional movement with a pause for the triple's upward emphasis and the flow to 00:13:222 (1), which feels fine to me and has been fine for all my playtesters who can play the map

    the structure is unquestionably consistent, the pattern makes SENSE from a musical standpoint with the emphasis and how the difficulty of the jumps slowly degrades to account for both the music and the players' stamina to provide a fair but difficult pattern

    could you consider it hard? yeah, you could its a fuckin 6.3 star map of course its gonna be hard if it is consistently difficult in the difficult sections (which this map is)

    but this pattern, this is fine. the flow feels satisfying to hit, its structured well, i'd argue that it looks nice but thats subjective and just GODDAMN everything is d a i j o u b u here after changing the last angle of the whole thing to make it feel more friendly and satisfying

    on to the next pattern!
  9. 00:14:801 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this one requires way less words because its way less difficult
  10. 00:14:801 (1,2) - buffer for stamina after that really hard pattern that was just before it
  11. 00:15:327 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - there's nothing difficult about this flow, no one has missed it in any play tbh and its cute look at my line arent lines cute yeah they are its a fine pattern zzzzzz
  12. 00:17:169 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - this is just edgy finger control, flow is fine for these ones and i've changed them multiple times until playtesters felt they flowed fine
  13. 00:18:222 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - this to me is the logical conclusion to 00:17:827 (1,2,3) in that 00:18:222 (1,2,3) - is technically a part of a pattern with the 00:17:827 (1,2,3) which allows the flow to transition with that vertical movement, and feels GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG this way, even if you wouldn't initally think it does

    okay for this next section, try to look at the flow like this, from my perspective:
  14. 00:21:117 (1,2,3,4,1) - part 1
  15. 00:21:774 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - part 2
  16. 00:22:564 (1,2,3,4) - part 1
  17. 00:23:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - part 2 [and so on]

    if you notice, each flow change is marked by a note that its nearly stacked [for example 00:21:774 (2) - 00:22:827 (2) - 00:23:880 (1) -] which gives the play FINE time to read and react and just reset their movement, which is what the extended sliders do in the first place.

    this is consistent throughout the entire segment, and seeing as all the patterns by themselves are completely fine flow wise [with one exception which i will note immediately after this point], that means the flow functions well, and is fitting to the rhythm. its just exciting and varied and UNUSUAL for sure, the whole section (and map) is edgy as fuck but thats just my mapping style lol... just because its edgy doesn't make it inherently bad, or even have bad flow, it just makes it egdy :p
  18. 00:25:327 (1,2,3,4) - this is the pattern that i find myself personally to be questionable, its the hardest to hit in the whole section (based on where testplays break). i will get more feedback on this pattern and if anyone has suggestions on how to fix it, please tell me lol for now, it functions so i'll keep it as is but i wouldn't be apposed to changing this
  19. 00:27:432 (1,2) - here, the rhythm switches back to the drums, hence the 1/2 slider and repeat to ease the player into the new rhythm, all the testplayers said they didnt even notice because it was that fluid lol
  20. 00:27:959 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - standard shit, no real comment for this set of patterns they're just back and forths with not a lot of circular movement, again easing the player in, no gnarly flow changes or anything wild because the vocals are toning down here before exploding again in like 5 seconds
  21. 00:29:538 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - symmetrical pattern is symmertrical, flow isn't hard because the flow change comes after 2 1/2 sliders so its not like they're circles or some shit
  22. 00:30:590 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - the triple in this pattern is stacked [00:30:853 (3,4,5)], planting the flow and making the transition to the new direction fine, the new flow direction fits the music too because of the vocal shift
  23. 00:31:774 (1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - linear sliders are g, they're just sliders and this spacing could honestly be higher but i wanted to use this as a bit of a stamina buffer as well as the upcoming section (in like 10 seconds) is VERY stamina intensive
  24. 00:33:748 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - slow spacing jumps/triples and sliders, no real concern about this segment other than it looks a little funny but i love lines .. ..
  25. 00:36:117 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - jump pattern is SATISFYING because of the flow, don't care if it seems jarring i've basically never seen someone miss this throughout all the plays and it feels GOOD

    the next section is pretty stamina intensive, but i make up for it with low spacing patterns, and rhythms more about finger control than actual difficulty

  26. 00:38:485 (1,2,1,2) - pishi told me these can't be perfectly stacked so i just tried to make them as close to perfectly stacked as possible without having them be, same applies for all the rest of the sliders in this segment
  27. 00:39:011 (1,2,3,4,5) - the first major flow change from the original map, this needed to be changed as this section SHOULD have good flow based on the sound and the finger control aspect of it being a lot different than the other flow intensive patterns, this is now much more ergonomic than it was before to hit
  28. 00:40:064 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - this part had the same flow before and it still works here, better now that the rest of the section is also tweaked
  29. 00:42:169 (1,2) - the major stamina checkpoint of the segment before the true test at 00:44:274 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5), just noting to justify why that section is reasonable, especially with the rising vocal
  30. 00:42:696 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - tweaked due to the changed sliders messing up my stack, now its more ergonomic like the rest of the segment
  31. 00:45:327 (1,2,3,4,5) - okay, so this HURT ME because it ripped some cool structure but i moved this up so that the whole pattern of 00:44:274 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - is much more intuitive, and feels smooth while still having that extra edge of difficulty due to being clickable. i needed to do this for consistency, as this section HAS to be smooth for the other rougher flow segments to be legitimate and just not seem random
  32. 00:48:880 (1,2,3,1,2) - skipping to the next notable thing in the map, this stack is different than all the other ones in the map in both rhythm and shape to allow it to be readable, just a note
  33. 00:49:538 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - is this jarring? well, the flow from 00:49:538 (1,2,3,4) - is yeah, but as a one off pattern in a peak of intensity, it's fitting and provides a nice contrast to the now completely smooth section that comes right before it, especially leading into the break which is the chorus

    slow part is fine lolxd
  34. 00:58:485 (1,2,1,2) - the next notable point, these are stunted flow wise for emphasis, its edgy but that has been established throughout the map already :p
  35. 00:59:011 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - note that all of these jumps are smooth until the point of emphasis, here 01:02:696 (1,2,3,4,5) - where it becomes jagged again with the spaced triple. this is done for emphasis, and is consistent within its own rules
  36. 01:03:222 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - more jagged, but less so jarring than the last, just like the music is LOL i feel like these patterns aren't really gonna need to be defended, this flow is fine and fitting for the end of the segment and doesn't do anything too wild

    okay, now for the second really big intense section which will be explained just like i did the first, albeit this one is probably harder so it'll take a bit more explaining
  37. 01:07:169 (1,2,1,2) - this flow transition is a riff on the same pattern that appears later in the map, standard pattern you'd seen in a lot of maps, especially ones of this style
  38. 01:07:432 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - now, looking at this pattern by pattern again, we'll see the same theme as last time
  39. 01:07:432 (1,2,3,4,5) - hardest
  40. 01:07:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - hard
  41. 01:08:485 (1,2,3,4,5) - easier
  42. 01:09:011 (1,2,3,4,5) - easiest
  43. 01:07:432 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this time the flow is much more jagged between these two notes, because i try to run with the theme of the line jumps that also appear 01:07:169 (1,2,1,2) - for kind of a symmetry pattern going on, i think its interesting in varied and this flow is NOT unreasonable to expect of a player who would be playing this map
  44. 01:08:485 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - these two patterns flow into each other pretty well, allowing for a break as they also are the easiest of the two patterns, just like before :ooooooooo o oo o o o o oo its almost like i fuckin thought about this map a lot when i was making it and tweaked it a lot from a lot of feedback and didn't just throw shit together as df asdf
  45. 01:09:538 (1,2) - same break as last time this section was relevent
  46. 01:10:064 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this is more reading difficulty than it is aiming difficulty, more than we saw last time. i tweaked the positioning of 01:10:590 (1) - to make it easier to hit and more readable, and i've messed with the overlap a lot to make sure it's both a cool pattern and plays relatively well
  47. 01:11:906 (1,1,2,3,1,1,2,3) - same finger control as before, these patterns were much more questionable flow wise before but they have now been tweaked to be much more ergonomic to hit and fitting with the theme of the map
  48. 01:12:959 (1,2,3,4,5) - same here, very ergonmic pattern that gets flown right into because the finger control is too tough in that segment to expect the player to hit a hard pattern directly after it
  49. 01:13:485 (1,2,1) - speaking of hard patterns, heres the last one of the section! this has been altered a few times for playability sake, and now i feel like its in a good place, very satifsying to play but also not unfair with the flow
  50. 01:15:853 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - this segment is kind of self explanatory, a calm before the storm, nice easy flow, nothing really challenging, also introduces a new rhythm in the 5 burst before the rhythm gets to its hardest point about 2 seconds from now
  51. 01:20:064 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - alright, time to talk about this, the most difficult pattern in the map in my opinion because i'm weak at higher bpm finger control
  52. 01:20:064 (1,2,1) - this flow, standard, it's not weird or abrupt, althought the shape of the triple is sharp it should be ergonmic to hit, the flow is NOT the hard part of this its the bpm, and that means that the map isn't flawed, the player is just too weak if they miss this pattern or misread
  53. 01:20:327 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - standard, a bit edgy yeah? but dam its the hard part what am i gonna do :/
  54. 01:20:853 (1,2,3) - i change the angle here in order to allow for the next flow i use, flows fine from the last pattern if read properly
  55. 01:21:117 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - this flow isn't even difficult its just a little bit hard to read because of the stack and VERY hard to play finger control wise because it comes right after 3 triples! but all i have to say to that is, dam, its an extra [expert xd], and at this difficulty, especially considering i need to have finger control difficulty in this diff to compensate for the spread to pishi's finger control gnarly top diff, this is perfectly reasonable
  56. 01:22:169 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - stacks for emphasis, a bit of a cooldown but still intense after that last pattern, it gives a very small catch of breath to the player before the end of the segment
  57. 01:23:222 (1,2,3,4,5,1,1,2) - pishi helped me fix the rhythm here so now its g, the flow/structure was also made a bit better with the rhythm change
  58. 01:24:274 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - its a triangle flow is fine lol the reason the flow takes a bit of a mellowed out approach in this segment is for an intensity break after the hardest part of the map, and because the vocal intensity allows for the map to become a little easier for about 4 measures
  59. 01:25:327 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - which explains the two slider pairs in this highlight, standard flow aside from that
  60. 01:26:906 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2) - EDGY patterns/flow which lead into the intenser segment!
  61. 01:28:485 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the explosion of kick sliders at start for the initial burst, then it mellows out again with the overlaps just like the song basically instantly reverts to the softer vocals after the burst of instrumentation, thats just my interpretation of the song
  62. 01:29:538 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - which leads to this segment being somewhere in the middle for flow difficulty, seeing as its inbetween the most intense sounds of the song, and the least intense sounds in the song musically (hope that makes sense tldr shit is subjective because its based off the FEELING of the song)
  63. 01:34:801 (1,2,1,2) - ctrl gd lol
and you know what? the rest of the map is fine by any standard, generally standard flow, a bit of edge with the placement of the 1/1 but thats just subjective shit

this has been my NOVELLA on my texas is forever diff, a lot of work has gone into this difficulty and i would appreciate that my points are considered by incoming BN + future heavy modding as i did put a lot of time and energy and conceptual thought into the map

was it executed perfectly? probably not but thats what long ass analysis like this is for

thank you to pishi for all the help + advice with the diff, and all my playtesters and everyone who helped me

i will now go and get playtests for this semi revised edition of the map, and double check everything to make sure its good to go!

using .osu in a rar now cause im lazy to keep pasting the code lol

http://puu.sh/qdkz9/d1af434eeb.rar
riffy

Haruto wrote:

as requested, sorry for the delay ><



[Bakari's Normal]
Oh my, first time modding one of your Diff, hope my suggestion helps ><.
  1. 00:12:169 (1,1) - spacing is a bit inconsistent, should be a minor fix by adjusting the placement of 00:12:696 (1) - i guess. I don't really think that at this SV anything below x0.05 would be noticeable.
  2. 00:15:064 - this sounds like a strong beat to me, might be good if you map this by making 00:14:801 (4) - a slider... but its completely up to you :) I intentionally stick to the drum line here, so that I don't spam 200BPM 1/1 beats in the easiest diff
  3. 00:14:801 (1) - NC? nah, that'd make new combos appear a bit too often
  4. 00:16:643 (4,1) - are 4 and 1 is supposed to be blanket? if not, making them blanket would be nice for me they're supposed to flow, I personally feel like a blanket would hurt the angle I was going for
  5. 00:17:432 (2,3,4) - rough angle for me. i mean, it isnt rough at all but considering this is the lowest difficulty the angle for each objects should'nt be "intense" or anything like that. could you place the placement of 00:18:222 (4,5) - to a smoother angle? like, curved angle is okay but dont straight >< it's a post hardcore song, how am I supposed to reflect it without agressive patterns? the patterns are playable, they're just a bit rough as I intended them to look
  6. 00:19:011 (1,2) - is it okay to make (1)>(2)'s spacing inconsistent? ;; most probably it is. there is clearly a long gap, so, consistent spacing would mess it up
  7. 00:23:222 (1,2) - blanket seems a bit off imo xD maybe you can do a minor change on 00:23:222 (1) - 's tail :3 did you really notice it just from looking at something like this? there is no point in making the blanket perfect up untill every single pixel as long looks and flows in a way we intended it to
  8. 00:25:327 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing? applies to 00:25:985 (2,3) - . 2 and 3's spacing is kinda beyond the limit if you understand what i mean xD my bad!
  9. 00:35:459 (3,1) - same i guess? (3)>(1)'s spacing is 0,74x while the main spacing you are using is 0.9x lol at least I'm consistent with lower-DS values!
  10. 00:42:169 (1,2) - i dont think making this into 1/1 reverse would fit there :/ i know you are trying to make some variety instead doing 1/2 reverse like 00:40:064 (1,2) - . but, 00:42:169 - the rhythm are almost the same with the previous. so why dont make them consistent instead? :D did the second one, it's 3/2 now. the first one sounds cooler the way it is
  11. 01:03:748 (4,5) - maybe blanket them? xD nah, the music is having some kind of a slowdown-break here, let these messy patterns reflect it
  12. 01:10:590 (3) - maybe place this to 99|231? so it can be a triangle shape there :) I'd rather go for a flow than hunt triangles. besides, messy patterns should work here better as the song itself is pretty agressive
  13. 01:17:959 - can you try, to map the beat here? ignoring or making it unmapped/mapped it on reverse sounds weird to me :? but this is a lowest diff so it should be okay i guess it's either polarity or vocals>drums shift. I prefer polarity.
  14. 01:57:959 (1) - place this on 225|91? you know, triangles xD but it'll overlapped a bit with 01:56:906 (4) - 's sliderborder if you're okay with it ;; that's the closest I could get, not a huge fan of overlaps on E/N diffs.

    Actually fine and unique diff i just wanted to know that is it allowed to use 0,7x and such spacing since the gap between rhythm is "far enough" xD
    yeah thats all. hope it helps you bakari ><
Thanks a lot! Don't mind the amount of red colour, the mod was pretty cool and helpful.

Also, if somebody could contact VINXIS and ask them to write sentences in understandable English, I would gladly apply the mod.

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Title:Texas Is Forever
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Artist:Pierce The Veil
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Tags:Kaifin BoberOfDarkness pishifat Milan- pkhg fieryrage Bakari PXT PTV Misadventures Vic Fuentes Equal Vision Fearless Records Post-hardcore Progressive Punk Alternative Rock
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Topic Starter
puxtu

VINXIS wrote:

Bakari

  1. 00:14:801 (4) - nc here please
  2. 00:46:380 (4,1) - should switch ncs here because of downbeat / new measure
  3. 00:46:643 (1,2) - isnt this weird design because of how the slider heads overlap + the slider shapes are kinda zzz when they put so close together in the same angle
  4. 00:54:801 (4,1) - should switch here, vocals gives a new measure feeling at 4
  5. 00:56:906 (1) - and then nc here because of the new measure thingy
  6. 01:01:380 (5,1) - 01:03:222 (3) - nc
  7. 01:20:064 (2,1) - 01:22:169 (2) - nc
  8. 01:49:538 - same thing here
  9. the ncing choices just feel random to me through the map because its sometimes basing off of new measures/downbeats and then its basing off for something that i have no idea what it actually is bashing off but yeah
why you made me do this omar.........
riffy
Thank you very much! I am not a native English speaker, so it helped me out a lot!

Will reply tomorrow!
VINXIS
trold. . . . .,
pkhg
no changes lo
riffy
The comboing is based around vocals/drum pitch changes and is meant to be as consistent as possible, as for the overlap you have mentioned, I did not notice it at all and the flow was quite alright there, in my opinion.

Thank you for the mod!
BoberOfDarkness

Blushing wrote:

Small Mod for Bodom's Rain
00:51:906 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Feels kinda awkward with the doubles, I feel like they should either make it so you can just very slightly move the catcher/stay still/ or make it so you have the dash to them, and not awkwardly move your catcher

01:39:011 (1,2,3) - make the before doubles more like these, so its 1. easier to read and easier to grab and 2. not put so much strain on the fingers

01:56:511 (3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - it continues to around 2 minutes with the awkward slider/doubles
Since Rain is Insane difficulty we can introduce harder patterns. Those patterns you are talking about might be uncomfortable but they follow song in 100%. Well if some of those patterns is too hard to rain level feel free to point it.

No changes, sorry.
Moeruattack
just some #quickmod I can do for now :3

Bodom's Rain
# I think Hitsounding could be better if its volume even higher, because it was a bit quiet even I set 100% volume sound effects.
#Disable Widescreen support if there`s no SB.

00:31:511 (7,1) - I think prefer if its H-Dash starts at (7) instead of (1) or make (1) a bit near to the (7) if wish to keep H-dash.
00:32:696 (1) - I`m not sure if it is follows vocal or beat, as 00:32:696 (1) sounded like from 00:32:827, while single note was from 00:32:696.
01:23:090 (5) - Should put H-dash in this one, strong vocals here.
01:26:380 (1,2,3,4) - Kinda far between slider and triplet notes, try move 01:26:643 (2,3,4) a bit to the right to x:32

Kinda hard rain 8-)
Stream a bit questionable but I guess I let other give opinion I guess.

Thats all, good luck for ranking :)
BoberOfDarkness

murutattack wrote:

just some #quickmod I can do for now :3

Bodom's Rain
# I think Hitsounding could be better if its volume even higher, because it was a bit quiet even I set 100% volume sound effects. Inscreased a bit
#Disable Widescreen support if there`s no SB. fixed

00:31:511 (7,1) - I think prefer if its H-Dash starts at (7) instead of (1) or make (1) a bit near to the (7) if wish to keep H-dash. I added hyper-chain
00:32:696 (1) - I`m not sure if it is follows vocal or beat, as 00:32:696 (1) sounded like from 00:32:827, while single note was from 00:32:696. Welp, I think thats is fine like it is since totally fits vocals but I will consider changing it
01:23:090 (5) - Should put H-dash in this one, strong vocals here. Added
01:26:380 (1,2,3,4) - Kinda far between slider and triplet notes, try move 01:26:643 (2,3,4) a bit to the right to x:32 I don't feel that was necessary but done

Kinda hard rain 8-)
Stream a bit questionable but I guess I let other give opinion I guess. Well, I wanted to keep it as easy as posible

Thats all, good luck for ranking :)
Thanks a lot!

http://puu.sh/qjRaU/205cc992eb.osu
Riari
M4M and shit

[Bodom's Rain]
  1. 00:09:538 (1,2) - Swap these two to be like 00:09:011 (2,3) - ? They both fit when changed and just having 1/1 sliders (especially with the 1/1 gap) creates a awkward flow. You could have the sets of 1/4 sliders increase in width, creating a nice buildup for a hyper into 00:10:590 (1) - to set a good pace for the pattern. The 1/1 sliders feel lazy in a Rain when you could do more with it.
  2. 00:11:643 (1) - Drop this 1/2? The spinner is really sudden and I like the effect but i think having a circle at 00:12:169 - to fit with 00:12:432 (1) - would be a great addition to what you have now.
  3. 00:29:538 (1) - I personally don't like this 1/2 repeater here. I feel that the movement between 00:29:669 - and 00:29:801 - shouldn't be as strong as 00:29:538 - 00:29:669 - because the tail and repeat don't connect well. The movement between 00:29:538 - and 00:29:669 - shows the pitch change whilst 00:29:669 - and 00:29:801 - shows nothing in comparison. I'd turn it into a triplet with 00:29:867 (2,3) - like you have done previously for consistency and it sounds nice.
  4. 00:30:590 (1,2,3) - same as above.
  5. 00:53:090 (3) - maybe turn this into a 1/2 repeater? 00:53:222 - is a key point for a pitch change through this slider and I think a 1/2 repeater could create a smoother 'curve' than what you have here.
  6. 00:55:853 (1) - Swap this for two 1/2 sliders? You've gone over sounds like this before, but this one is very prominent due to the lack of a solid background. For the sake of this I'd suggest changing it as it stands out a lot as it is right now.
  7. 02:23:485 (1) - - This spinner feels very out of place. Whilst you can hear what you are placing it on, it is very faint throughout and doesn't fit with the rest of the map in my opinion. The hardest standard diff doesn't use a spinner at the end and I think that a hyper into 02:23:222 (2) - is a much more impact ending than this spinner.
Good luck with your set.
pishifat
00:21:117 - i wish iw asnt fuckjgin retarded so i knew wot u and kaifin r mapping 2 at this part FUCk Pierce The Veil - Texas Is Forever [Osu|CatchTheBeat|OsuMani
if u havmt, get testplays and chek the spacing gimmik thing (wher ur 1/1 spacing is 2742394x smallr than 1/2 lik 01:27:696 (1,2,1,2) - 01:13:748 (1,2,1) - as an exampl of wot im talkgina bout) thy look lik thy will notelok/play bad for som ppl.. . will do
Kaifin
update
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Cowboy
M4M with puxtu \:D/

[Bodom's Rain]
Turn off Widescreen Support (Don't have a SB.)
  1. 00:33:222 (3,4) - This is so rare, but hey its something which I fully comprehend that yours is a map lol, 00:33:353 (4) - try Ctrl+H move to the same position and then Ctrl+G, should be fix.
  2. 00:42:037 (6,1) - An h-dash can help.
  3. 00:46:380 (1) - I do not know how to explain it, but positions the slider as shown in the picture:
  4. Nothing else to say here triplets, triplets there, good luck.
melon boy
Helped Kaifin out a bit!
IRC stuff
21:07 Kaifin: hi do you want to m4m??
21:07 Kaifin: i'm just looking for single diff ircs for my gd for a map
21:08 Fuccho: sure!
21:09 Kaifin: i hav new version
21:09 Kaifin: uploading
21:10 Kaifin: it doesnt change very much though, only like 1 pattern
21:10 Fuccho: ok
21:10 Fuccho: 1 sec
21:10 Fuccho: ah, nevermind
21:10 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qLMkI/856f3787a3.osz
21:10 Kaifin: here you go
21:10 Kaifin: o
21:11 Kaifin: if you dont want to thats fine omar just told me to ask you lol
21:11 Fuccho: I will
21:11 Fuccho: I'll look through with auto once first
21:14 Fuccho: let's go!
21:14 Kaifin: okay
21:15 Fuccho: 00:10:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - I'm not sure why but this pattern just doesn't feel right as the very first
21:15 Fuccho: either something without overlap
21:16 Fuccho: or something more round and flowy might work better
21:16 Kaifin: yeah i agree
21:17 Kaifin: i'm not sure where to put the 1 if i move the pattern
21:17 Kaifin: lik 00:10:590 (1) -
21:18 Fuccho: http://puu.sh/qLMMr/983583a2b0.jpg something like this could also work
21:18 Fuccho: a bit more straight forward
21:18 Kaifin: is the stack the hard part of that pattern?
21:18 Kaifin: i didnt realize
21:19 Fuccho: not really... I'm actually not sure :/
21:19 Fuccho: just didn't feel right
21:19 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qLMSa/29e5630d92.jpg
21:19 Kaifin: its probably bc of the sharp angle from 00:10:459 (2,1) -
21:20 Kaifin: but i wanted the sharp flow bc of how the drum sounds
21:20 Fuccho: if you feel like keeping it, please do :>
21:20 Fuccho: next!
21:20 Fuccho: 00:12:169 (1,1,1,2,3,4,5) - this is a mess
21:20 Kaifin: okay
21:21 Fuccho: way too much I just wouldn't do...
21:21 Kaifin: do you mean the overlap, the flow, or both
21:21 Fuccho: mostly the overlaps and maybe slidershapes
21:22 Fuccho: http://puu.sh/qLN1K/79e715e58c.jpg http://puu.sh/qLN3M/db950c5e64.jpg
21:22 Fuccho: you can take some inspiration from this
21:22 Kaifin: yeah the slider shape is pretty ugly
21:23 Fuccho: zigzag sliders can almost always the most pretty when using just two white anchor points
21:23 Kaifin: i dont agree about the overlaps because thats how basically the whole map is structured
21:23 Kaifin: i wasnt trying to make a zigzag slider i was trying to make it ugly
21:23 Kaifin: but if its too ugly i'll change it
21:23 Fuccho: ah, well
21:24 Fuccho: 00:12:959 (3,4,5) - I still suggest moving this down
21:24 Fuccho: that way you can have (4) on
21:24 Fuccho: 00:13:353 (2) -
21:24 Kaifin: i agree that its pretty fuckd tho, i think its bad ugly rn LOL
21:24 Fuccho: the same way you did with00:13:485 (3,4,5,1,2) -
21:25 Fuccho: heh
21:25 Kaifin: 00:13:024 (4,2) -
21:25 Kaifin: but these are stcked
21:25 Kaifin: as of rn
21:25 Fuccho: ah, they were?
21:26 Kaifin: is your copy different than mine? lol
21:26 Fuccho: well, then move them together, I might have done that
21:26 Fuccho: ye, I did
21:26 Kaifin: i just hav a couple concerns with moving them down
21:27 Kaifin: if i move it down, then the flow of 00:12:696 (1,2,3,4,5) - is basically broken
21:27 Kaifin: as well as 00:13:222 (1,2,3,4,5) - assuming i'm moving 00:13:353 (2) - with it
21:28 Fuccho: you think so?
21:28 Fuccho: 00:13:222 (1) - can be moved a bit down and to the right as well
21:29 Kaifin: muh triangle
21:29 Kaifin: sec lemme change the sliders so i can tweak accordingly
21:29 Fuccho: eh, you wanted ugly, no? xdd
21:30 Kaifin: i'm changing anyways, its bad ugly rn
21:30 Kaifin: not good ugly
21:30 Kaifin: : O
21:31 Kaifin: ok, now the angles on the sliders are slightly different
21:31 Kaifin: and i smoothed out hte first slider a bit and changed the angle on 00:12:696 (1) -
21:31 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qLNHb/a169af429b.jpg
21:32 Kaifin: i think this is a good compromise
21:32 Fuccho: sure sure
21:32 Fuccho: I see we have different taste in overlaps
21:32 Fuccho: xd
21:32 Kaifin: okay
21:32 Fuccho: 00:21:511 (1) - These
21:32 Kaifin: xd
21:33 Fuccho: probably not the best for 3/4 sliders..
21:33 Fuccho: best places*
21:33 Fuccho: I understand you have tick rate 2
21:33 Kaifin: why not?
21:33 Fuccho: but pls...
21:33 Fuccho: There's no reason and you're skipping a strong bass drum
21:34 Kaifin: i switch to the guitar here for the whole section
21:34 Fuccho: and the places where it really fits it doesn't seem as special
21:34 Fuccho: like here 00:32:827 (1,2,3) -
21:35 Kaifin: its hard for me to even hear the bass drum over the vocal and guitar
21:35 Kaifin: thats why i chose to use that rhythm here
21:35 Kaifin: you'll note the top diff also uses this rhythm choice
21:36 Fuccho: rrmmm!
21:36 Fuccho: at this bpm
21:36 Fuccho: these kind of sliders are more often a pain to play than not
21:36 Fuccho: from my experience
21:37 Fuccho: but if you feel like it fits then please do keep it
21:37 Kaifin: okay
21:37 Kaifin: well, to that i'd say this map is difficult consistently throughout
21:37 Kaifin: (barring the song slowing down)
21:38 Fuccho: 00:31:774 (1,2,3) - here at least
21:38 Fuccho: I'd like you to either
21:38 Fuccho: make these 1/2 so
21:38 Fuccho: 00:32:827 (1,2,3) - these crashes are emphasised more with the 3/4
21:38 Fuccho: or!
21:38 Fuccho: 00:32:827 (1,2,3) - do something crazier with the spacing for these
21:40 Fuccho: 00:48:880 (1,2,3,1) - at this bpm for singletappers at least
21:42 Kaifin: hello
21:42 Fuccho: hey
21:42 Kaifin: sorry bancho died there
21:42 Kaifin: the last message i got was "or!"
21:43 Fuccho: http://puu.sh/qLOsm/9ef2dbbaba.jpg
21:43 Fuccho: 00:48:880 (1,2,3,1) - at this bpm for singletappers at least
21:44 Fuccho: ending on your non-dominant key is a pain
21:44 Fuccho: 1/1 slider might be better
21:44 Kaifin: bancho zz
21:44 Kaifin: changed the sliders to 1/2
21:44 Fuccho: oke
21:45 Kaifin: ye i know that its a bit awkward
21:45 Kaifin: i'm not sure because i wanted to make those two sounds clickable but i can change
21:45 Fuccho: 1/2 slider could also work
21:46 Fuccho: ah, maybe not
21:46 Fuccho: that's definitely a sound that needs holding
21:47 Kaifin: yea i'll change that
21:47 Fuccho: 00:50:590 - love the slow parts!
21:47 Fuccho: the only comment I wanna make is that
21:47 Fuccho: I don't get your nc's
21:47 Fuccho: 00:50:853 (1) - specifically these
21:47 Fuccho: 00:55:064 (1) -
21:48 Fuccho: feel like you could easily remove those
21:48 Kaifin: thanks
21:49 Kaifin: o, i forgot to mention i ended up just buffing the spacing on the second set of those 3/4 sliders
21:49 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qLOOf/8d8f1e95f4.jpg
21:49 Fuccho: ooh nice
21:50 Fuccho: 01:23:748 (1,1,2) - here I think you should either remove the NC on the second slider
21:50 Kaifin: i think i literally just nc'd to make it look nice then made it consistent
21:50 Fuccho: or make an SV increase on the second
21:51 Fuccho: otherwise the nc is sort of arbitrary
21:51 Kaifin: i think i literally just nc'd to make it look nice then made it consistent
21:51 Kaifin: i mean i guess i could argue that the NC happens on the drums but i mean like i'll just remove the ncs lol
21:51 Kaifin: i'll remove them in the other slow part at the end as well
21:51 Fuccho: okay
21:52 Fuccho: 01:40:590 (1,1) - a little too much NC?
21:53 Fuccho: you could remove the second
21:54 Fuccho: 01:56:511 (1,2,3,1) - stacks like these with a NC at the end look kind of weird to me...
21:54 Fuccho: so either remove it or
21:54 Fuccho: make the spacing between the last circle and the slider different
21:54 Fuccho: 02:00:722 (1,2,3,1) - same here
21:55 Fuccho: 02:11:643 (1) - bad anglllle!
21:55 Fuccho: 7 degrees clockwise would be nice
21:55 Fuccho: thas it!
21:57 Fuccho: ah, one more thing
22:02 Fuccho: one last thing
22:02 Fuccho: 02:22:696 (3,4) - I feel for at least the last two repeat sliders here you could do something different
22:03 Fuccho: either stream or 1/4 kick sliders
fieryrage
irc with kaif xd
2016-08-23 16:52 fieryrage: ok
2016-08-23 16:53 Kaifin: ok
2016-08-23 16:53 Kaifin: ok
2016-08-23 16:53 fieryrage: ok
2016-08-23 16:54 fieryrage: 00:10:327 (1,2) - this is pretty weird changing rhythm at the last repeat
2016-08-23 16:54 Kaifin: its bc the drums come in hard
2016-08-23 16:55 Kaifin: all the repeats are the same length
2016-08-23 16:55 Kaifin: so i think is ok
2016-08-23 16:55 Kaifin: especially bc its consistent with 02:22:432 (2,1) -
2016-08-23 16:55 Kaifin: map starts and ends the same way
2016-08-23 16:58 fieryrage: 00:11:643 (1,2) - ugly stack nmissing triple - _-
2016-08-23 16:58 fieryrage: sry if im slow modding im watching shige
2016-08-23 16:59 Kaifin: o woops i didnt EVEN HEAR it
2016-08-23 16:59 Kaifin: thats fine
2016-08-23 16:59 fieryrage: DUDE NICE
2016-08-23 16:59 Kaifin: link shige stream
2016-08-23 16:59 fieryrage: https://www.openrec.tv/live/shigetora_osu
2016-08-23 17:00 Kaifin: ok i just stacked the triple
2016-08-23 17:00 Kaifin: ont he 00:11:906 (1) -
2016-08-23 17:00 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qM4uj/b52e424d43.jpg
2016-08-23 17:00 fieryrage: ya that worfks
2016-08-23 17:01 Kaifin: ok
2016-08-23 17:02 fieryrage: 00:12:169 (1,1) - silence slider ends pls
2016-08-23 17:03 Kaifin: ok
2016-08-23 17:03 Kaifin: silencd.
2016-08-23 17:03 fieryrage: 00:17:169 (1,1,2,3) - idk why this isnt a triple since as it is right now is like really awkward for flow tbh
2016-08-23 17:03 fieryrage: also nc spam :d
2016-08-23 17:04 Kaifin: keeping ncs
2016-08-23 17:04 Kaifin: not a triple bc different sound + edge
2016-08-23 17:04 fieryrage: kk
2016-08-23 17:04 Kaifin: i wanted to represent the muted strumming differently
2016-08-23 17:04 fieryrage: 00:18:222 (1,2,3) - why didnt you make this the same one then
2016-08-23 17:04 fieryrage: or am i retarded
2016-08-23 17:05 Kaifin: i found it gets too straining 3 times in a row so i wanted to "root" the flow before 00:18:748 (1,2) - so it had impact
2016-08-23 17:05 Kaifin: if that makes sense
2016-08-23 17:05 Kaifin: i can't think of another word for it
2016-08-23 17:05 Kaifin: i understand what you mean
2016-08-23 17:06 fieryrage: ya
2016-08-23 17:06 fieryrage: it makes sense
2016-08-23 17:06 fieryrage: 00:29:143 (2,3,4) - feel like these should have more emphasis instead of the same
2016-08-23 17:06 Kaifin: hmmm
2016-08-23 17:07 Kaifin: i'd argue the emphasis comes from the stack but do you think its enough when playing?
2016-08-23 17:07 Kaifin: if not i can make them more spaced
2016-08-23 17:07 fieryrage: ya the triple doesnt really give it that much emphasis imo
2016-08-23 17:07 fieryrage: 00:31:774 (1) - ncing this after 00:31:643 (1) - is pretty useless
2016-08-23 17:07 fieryrage: 00:33:748 (1,2) - this stack is asking to be read as a triple which doesnt really matter at this bpm but still :d
2016-08-23 17:08 Kaifin: removed
2016-08-23 17:08 Kaifin: idk why the stack isnt stacked
2016-08-23 17:08 Kaifin: so i stacked it
2016-08-23 17:08 Kaifin: the 00:33:353 (3,3,4,5) -
2016-08-23 17:08 fieryrage: it tends to do that
2016-08-23 17:08 fieryrage: on random sldiers
2016-08-23 17:08 fieryrage: idk
2016-08-23 17:09 Kaifin: ok wel restacked
2016-08-23 17:09 fieryrage: 00:37:696 (1) - xd
2016-08-23 17:09 Kaifin: 00:29:143 (2,3,4) - im keeping this
2016-08-23 17:09 Kaifin: whats xd about this
2016-08-23 17:10 Kaifin: is it fuckd
2016-08-23 17:10 fieryrage: ur silence
2016-08-23 17:10 fieryrage: slider end
2016-08-23 17:10 Kaifin: O
2016-08-23 17:10 Kaifin: ya
2016-08-23 17:10 Kaifin: that one
2016-08-23 17:10 Kaifin: silencd.
2016-08-23 17:10 fieryrage: 00:39:538 (1,2,3) - idk why the spacing changes here when it really shouldn't since it's the same rhythm from what i hear
2016-08-23 17:10 fieryrage: 00:48:222 (1) - remove nc
2016-08-23 17:11 fieryrage: 00:58:485 (1,2,1) - missing 1/4 notes here :d
2016-08-23 17:11 Kaifin: spacing changes (throughout the section) are to emphasize how the same sound is repeated
2016-08-23 17:11 Kaifin: comparing 00:41:117 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2016-08-23 17:12 Kaifin: to 00:41:643 (1,2,3) - for example
2016-08-23 17:12 Kaifin: the first one has vocal emphasis, the vocals fade out and the instrumentation becomes slightly more slacked so the spacing lowers
2016-08-23 17:12 Kaifin: does that make sense?
2016-08-23 17:12 Kaifin: nc removed
2016-08-23 17:12 fieryrage: ya
2016-08-23 17:12 Kaifin: man I LIK that emphasis i got gOIN there tho with the skipped 1/4 fuk
2016-08-23 17:13 fieryrage: 01:13:880 (1) - also pretty useless nc imo but whTev
2016-08-23 17:13 Kaifin: gonna make it kicks somehow i think
2016-08-23 17:13 fieryrage: i mean ud ont have to map it
2016-08-23 17:13 fieryrage: tbh
2016-08-23 17:13 Kaifin: that nc is for readability
2016-08-23 17:13 fieryrage: thats what i figured
2016-08-23 17:13 Kaifin: i nc spam too much but that one is OK
2016-08-23 17:13 fieryrage: 01:16:117 (3) - map literally every triple but this 1 ?????
2016-08-23 17:14 fieryrage: 01:27:959 (1,2) - slider ends :d
2016-08-23 17:14 Kaifin: does 01:20:064 - to 01:24:143 -
2016-08-23 17:14 Kaifin: feel fine
2016-08-23 17:14 Kaifin: playability wise
2016-08-23 17:14 Kaifin: to you
2016-08-23 17:14 Kaifin: when you played it did it feel fine
2016-08-23 17:15 Kaifin: its the hardest section of the map
2016-08-23 17:15 Kaifin: just wanted to make sure
2016-08-23 17:15 Kaifin: also im gay changed to repeat slider
2016-08-23 17:15 Kaifin: at 01:16:117 (3) -
2016-08-23 17:15 fieryrage: :d
2016-08-23 17:15 fieryrage: ya those felt ok
2016-08-23 17:15 fieryrage: nothing really flow breaking there
2016-08-23 17:16 Kaifin: ok
2016-08-23 17:16 fieryrage: 01:31:380 (1) - remove nc
2016-08-23 17:16 fieryrage: 01:32:696 (1,2) - are kiai times really need here xd
2016-08-23 17:16 fieryrage: you didnt have them at the start
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: fuk i want to keep the slider because it messes with my pattern to replace
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: but it fuks my rhythm
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: going to think about it
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: also kiai times are there because its more intense than the start
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: seeing as there is a vocal there
2016-08-23 17:17 fieryrage: kk
2016-08-23 17:17 Kaifin: DONT DA NC E A ROUND m E I KNO W AT IT MEANs
2016-08-23 17:18 Kaifin: nc removed btw
2016-08-23 17:18 fieryrage: 02:00:722 (1,2,3) - stacking this is ruining rhythm Xd
2016-08-23 17:18 fieryrage: at least unstack the first note
2016-08-23 17:18 Kaifin: do you think its fine the first time?
2016-08-23 17:18 Kaifin: 01:56:511 (4,5,6,1) -
2016-08-23 17:18 fieryrage: o i didnt even notice that
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: no that suffers the same problem imo
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: the whole sectoin
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: you dont move unless the strum pattern stops
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: the first note has more emphasis but its stacked with less emphasized notes
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: ya ik but its still kind of weird i guess?
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: idk how to really explain it
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: yeah i gotcha
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: 02:11:643 (1) - feel free to ignore this but this slider istn perfect and i got triggered
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: thats the feel i WANT tho
2016-08-23 17:19 fieryrage: i want my dick
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: shieeet ur rite
2016-08-23 17:19 Kaifin: fixd
2016-08-23 17:20 Kaifin: i think i fixed it at least
2016-08-23 17:20 Kaifin: im autistic at sliders
2016-08-23 17:20 fieryrage: no its ok i point that shit out to like literally everyone
2016-08-23 17:20 fieryrage: because my ocd gets triggered
2016-08-23 17:20 Kaifin: sending screenshot
2016-08-23 17:20 fieryrage: 02:22:696 (1,2,1,2,1) - this is fine but it threw me off guard on sightread so y
2016-08-23 17:20 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qM5zA/cfb43082f4.jpg
2016-08-23 17:20 Kaifin: fuccho told me to
2016-08-23 17:20 fieryrage: no the left portion is larger than the RIGHT SLIDER fVJ UCK
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: and i agreed with him bc that way i get the start same as the end meme
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: and i think that its the most intense part of that buildup
2016-08-23 17:21 fieryrage: ya fair enough
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: cant wait to see people break there
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: on fc
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: how about now
2016-08-23 17:21 Kaifin: screenshot loading
2016-08-23 17:22 Kaifin: http://puu.sh/qM5EF/9f1c63ba8b.jpg
2016-08-23 17:22 fieryrage: ok thats good enough
2016-08-23 17:22 fieryrage: im not gonna like mod this 4ever just to make it perfect
2016-08-23 17:22 Kaifin: ok nice
2016-08-23 17:22 fieryrage: even tho my ocd is like
2016-08-23 17:22 Kaifin: fair
2016-08-23 17:22 fieryrage: do it
2016-08-23 17:22 fieryrage: but dsaijh
2016-08-23 17:22 Kaifin: its not meant 2 be perfect perfect
2016-08-23 17:23 Kaifin: tyty for the mod plz post log thanks
2016-08-23 17:23 Kaifin: idk if you can get kudos from a set you're in
2016-08-23 17:23 fieryrage: i got one from blue dragon so :d
2016-08-23 17:24 Kaifin: :d

2016-08-21 17:39 Kaifin: ok wait 1 sec
2016-08-21 17:39 Kaifin: ok wait 1 sec
2016-08-21 17:39 Kaifin: ok wait 1 sec
2016-08-21 17:39 Kaifin: ok wait 1 sec
2016-08-21 17:39 fieryrage: ok wait 1 sec
Kaifin
my bancho died but i accepted everything from fuccho at the end of the log

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Crono
Hi! Quick Mod for Bodom's Rain.

Feel free to reject

01:01:511 (2) - This could use a slightly steeper angle. On Hard Rock no movement needed and doesn't look like it suits the drum being played here.

01:19:274 (2,3,4) - A little misplaced, make this similar to the angle at 01:18:485 (1,2,3) - to polish it

02:03:222 (1,2) - perhaps shift end points a little more left and right? I mean a slightly steeper angle

Opinions: It feels a little WIP on play but that may just be because I prefer more left right movement. The angles are very vertical for the most part making it easy to play which makes me think people will target this map for pp gain rather then enjoying the map and having fun. It is a good map but sometimes easy and comfortable play is too much of a good thing. Again just my opinion, I find this map fun of course. I just feel it could be more challenging because it feels really easy compared to playing the mania diffs. I am a mania/ctb after all.

Anyhow that's my 2cents,

Pux your diffs are simple mapped and fun as usual. Had some thoughts playing the MX and decided to mod them too

0 1 2 3

MX

00:49:011 add a note here if your gonna play these. Otherwise make SVs to replace the notes for this sound

00:50:064 (50064|1) - move to 2
00:50:196 (50196|3) - move to 1

00:57:169 (57169|3,57169|1,57301|3,57301|1,57432|2,57432|0,57564|3,57564|1,57696|2,57696|0,57827|0,57827|2) - ctrl+h to make this more like the outro. also different pitch so different chords too :P
00:59:932 (59932|2) - seems to be another sound here. Add note?

HD

00:49:209 (49209|0) - move to 1 please
01:04:472 (64472|3,64538|1) - ctrl+j for better flow.

GL Puxtu! <3
-Sh1n1-
ok, saving slot :3
pkhg
^
Absolute Zero
[Bodom's Rain]
Overall: Needs some polishing. WOAH turn it down a bit! This is really difficult at sections for a rain player and I'll point out a few things. Reminder that this is 200+bpm and the same movements that work at ~150bpm can be too difficult in some sections.

00:04:274 (1,2) - Starting with a hyper here is unexpected and kind of hard to reach right after a slider. I would suggest that you don't make this a hyper.
00:09:011 (2,3) - Slider ends here are unnecessary as while it follows the drums, the second hits clutter up the screen.
00:11:643 (1) - Spinner feels like it doesn't belong here and creates confusion. Replace with a 1/1 repeat slider.
00:13:748 (1,2,3,4) - I don't feel myself moving anywhere here... please make more motion since it's a huge contrast from the last part.
00:23:222 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:13:748 (1,2,3,4). It's strange how I don't need to use dash.
00:25:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This pattern crams itself into the middle. There's not that the catcher can do but quickly hit shift so that they don't miss the jumps back and forth. Change up the pattern a little bit.
00:27:432 (1,2,3,4) - The hypers here don't really fit at all... There's not in the music to indicate doing so, especially with a hyper reversing direction. Rethink the spacing here.
00:29:274 (4,1) - Angle of this is a little strange to move to (1). Slant it slightly more and move (1,2,3) more left to preserve the hyper.
00:31:511 (7,1,2) - The hyper on (1) should be on (7) because that's going to the downbeat instead. Move (1) closer to (2).
00:33:090 (2,3,4) - This double hyper movement feels a little strange and emphasizes things weirdly. I would make a larger gap between (2,3) and keep (3,4) at a non-hyper.
00:39:932 (8,1) - Please make this a hyper. It's really hard to catch so far.
00:45:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The hyper pattern here plays really strangely.
00:48:222 (4,1) - This jump is really awkward. It's close to a timing jump because the bpm is way higher than you estimated.
00:50:590 (1) - Curve this slider to the left to allow a cushion so players don't miss as many droplets.
00:51:643 (1,2,3,4) - I would reconsider these snaps. I don't personally think it fits the music, even the drums, and is awkward to play.
00:51:643 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is quite frustrating because you've confined the player to the right side of the screen with very little movement for the kiai. Please use the whole space!
00:55:853 (1,2) - I would make this a 1/1 slider because I don't hear the end of the sliders here.
00:58:222 (3,4,5) - This movement here is really strange because it's sandwiched in between two required stops. Please rethink this hyperchain.

I think it's not worth repeating things for the rest of the map but some words of advice.
  1. Please make movement more regular. Sometimes the catcher can just stand relatively still and other times I jump across the screen.
  2. Difficulty is stagnant.
  3. Careful with where you put HDashes!
  4. Reminder that you don't have to hit every drum note because the rhythms get really repetitive over time.
Kaifin
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BoberOfDarkness

Absolute Zero wrote:

[Bodom's Rain]
Overall: Needs some polishing. WOAH turn it down a bit! This is really difficult at sections for a rain player and I'll point out a few things. Reminder that this is 200+bpm and the same movements that work at ~150bpm can be too difficult in some sections.

00:04:274 (1,2) - Starting with a hyper here is unexpected and kind of hard to reach right after a slider. I would suggest that you don't make this a hyper. reduced DS instead
00:09:011 (2,3) - Slider ends here are unnecessary as while it follows the drums, the second hits clutter up the screen. Idk what you mean :(
00:11:643 (1) - Spinner feels like it doesn't belong here and creates confusion. Replace with a 1/1 repeat slider. stream is better
00:13:748 (1,2,3,4) - I don't feel myself moving anywhere here... please make more motion since it's a huge contrast from the last part. not sure if you want me to add more movement if yes so I fixed
00:23:222 (1,2,3,4) - Same as 00:13:748 (1,2,3,4). It's strange how I don't need to use dash. fixed
00:25:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This pattern crams itself into the middle. There's not that the catcher can do but quickly hit shift so that they don't miss the jumps back and forth. Change up the pattern a little bit. idk what to do :(
00:27:432 (1,2,3,4) - The hypers here don't really fit at all... There's not in the music to indicate doing so, especially with a hyper reversing direction. Rethink the spacing here. fixed
00:29:274 (4,1) - Angle of this is a little strange to move to (1). Slant it slightly more and move (1,2,3) more left to preserve the hyper. I re:worked that part
00:31:511 (7,1,2) - The hyper on (1) should be on (7) because that's going to the downbeat instead. Move (1) closer to (2). yea fixed
00:33:090 (2,3,4) - This double hyper movement feels a little strange and emphasizes things weirdly. I would make a larger gap between (2,3) and keep (3,4) at a non-hyper. its totally fine here
00:39:932 (8,1) - Please make this a hyper. It's really hard to catch so far. fixed
00:45:327 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The hyper pattern here plays really strangely. now they flow better
00:48:222 (4,1) - This jump is really awkward. It's close to a timing jump because the bpm is way higher than you estimated. I catch it with a slack
00:50:590 (1) - Curve this slider to the left to allow a cushion so players don't miss as many droplets. fixed
00:51:643 (1,2,3,4) - I would reconsider these snaps. I don't personally think it fits the music, even the drums, and is awkward to play. actually is fun to play and its totally suits vocals here
00:51:643 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is quite frustrating because you've confined the player to the right side of the screen with very little movement for the kiai. Please use the whole space! lol.. its one part which uses tight movement, if I would spread that on whole screen or something that might be too much movement
00:55:853 (1,2) - I would make this a 1/1 slider because I don't hear the end of the sliders here. vocals and guitar ends there
00:58:222 (3,4,5) - This movement here is really strange because it's sandwiched in between two required stops. Please rethink this hyperchain. actually it is nice :(

I think it's not worth repeating things for the rest of the map but some words of advice.
  1. Please make movement more regular. Sometimes the catcher can just stand relatively still and other times I jump across the screen.
  2. Difficulty is stagnant.
  3. Careful with where you put HDashes!
  4. Reminder that you don't have to hit every drum note because the rhythms get really repetitive over time.
thanks for mod :)

Crono wrote:

Hi! Quick Mod for Bodom's Rain.

Feel free to reject

01:01:511 (2) - This could use a slightly steeper angle. On Hard Rock no movement needed and doesn't look like it suits the drum being played here. fixed

01:19:274 (2,3,4) - A little misplaced, make this similar to the angle at 01:18:485 (1,2,3) - to polish it I re:worked this part

02:03:222 (1,2) - perhaps shift end points a little more left and right? I mean a slightly steeper angle fixed

Opinions: It feels a little WIP on play but that may just be because I prefer more left right movement. The angles are very vertical for the most part making it easy to play which makes me think people will target this map for pp gain rather then enjoying the map and having fun. It is a good map but sometimes easy and comfortable play is too much of a good thing. Again just my opinion, I find this map fun of course. I just feel it could be more challenging because it feels really easy compared to playing the mania diffs. I am a mania/ctb after all. Its not my aim to give people free pp, and I think that I used the limit of difficulty on that Rain

Anyhow that's my 2cents,
Thanks (:

Jusenkyo wrote:

M4M with puxtu \:D/

[Bodom's Rain]
Turn off Widescreen Support (Don't have a SB.) fixed
  1. 00:33:222 (3,4) - This is so rare, but hey its something which I fully comprehend that yours is a map lol, 00:33:353 (4) - try Ctrl+H move to the same position and then Ctrl+G, should be fix. fixed
  2. 00:42:037 (6,1) - An h-dash can help. added
  3. 00:46:380 (1) - I do not know how to explain it, but positions the slider as shown in the picture: I think some easy anti-flow is fine, no change sorry
  4. Nothing else to say here triplets, triplets there, good luck.
Thanks dude :)
Topic Starter
puxtu
updated
Protastic101
u lewd-tu

col 1|2|3|4

uwu
[General]
  1. your drum-hitclap sounds low quality to me. Try this one instead. I tried to keep the pitch as close as possible but it may be a little off. I tested it, it doesn't really sound different though.
[HD]00:12:432 (12432|1) - I'd consider making this an LN and ending at 00:12:696 - to act as a transition into the next section of the song, and for the guitar.
00:12:169 (12169|2,12432|1) - If the above is accepted, control H this so that it looks like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6476947
00:12:169 (12169|0,12169|1) - Also relating to the above, I may also consider making one of these notes (maybe the one in 2) into an LN and end at 00:12:432 - cause again, guitar, but it's also fine as a short note.
00:23:024 (23024|0,23222|0) - god, my eyes, please, use a 1/1 space between notes in the same column at least. Try this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6476966
00:24:406 (24406|0,24603|0) - Similar to the above. I just think these 3/4 gaps between notes is a bit too short to make it natural to play between all the 1/4 bursts. Try moving it to 2, and then 00:24:801 (24801|1) - to 3
00:31:643 - y. I get that it's supposed to act as a transition, but in the context of the difficulty, it's just so out of place since the music is the same as before, but you suddenly switched to accent the upbeats, when the upbeats are only accented at 00:32:696 - . My suggestion is to map 00:31:643 - the same way you mapped everything before, and leave 00:32:696 - the same.
00:33:090 (33090|3,33222|0,33353|3) - Just for direction, I'd consider moving the notes to 1, 4, and 2 respectively like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6476992
00:35:985 - Awkward pause here since there's still a kick playing here. I get the patterns are done for emphasis, but this song changes from downbeats to upbeats getting the emphasis all the time. Just map it the way it would normally be mapped, cause some of these sudden changes in style when the music is the same are random af to me.
00:48:485 (48485|3,48617|0,48748|1,48880|3) - for the guitar, try this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477014
00:57:432 (57432|3,57432|1) - why double? The snare comes in at 00:57:564 - , not on the downbeat. Hell, I might consider removing both notes completely since there's no kick there, but then I'm contradicting myself from earlier :^)
01:06:709 (66709|0,66774|1,66774|3,66840|2) - Feels unnatural to play for me, but that's probably cause I hate [24] chords with a passion. Anyways, try this instead maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477023
01:25:130 (85130|0,85196|1,85327|0) - I cri cause again, it looks like a simple 1/2 mini trill but it's 1/4 and then I hit a 200 and I'm sad. 01:25:327 (85327|0) - Consider moving to 4 as a solution.
01:48:748 (108748|3,109011|2,109274|1) - I'd consider making these 1/2 LNs to accent the vocals/guitar emphasis here.
01:54:801 (114801|0) - Move this to 3 cause this right after 01:54:406 (114406|0,114538|0,114801|0) - felt unnatural to play imo. If accepted, move some of the other notes around to accommodate the [23] chord.
01:56:643 (116643|0,116774|2) - Stack these in 3 for the guitar and move 01:56:248 (116248|2) - to 2 for hand balance if accepted.
01:59:011 (119011|3,119011|2,119011|0) - This is the first time you've used a triple at all in this song, and it isn't even for a crash. Reduce it to 2 notes similar to places like 00:12:696 - 00:21:117 - Anyways, don't use a triple so far into the song if you haven't introduced one previously.
02:20:064 (140064|0,140064|2,140130|1) - shoots, but no suggestion here since it plays fine.
That's quite the difficulty spike you have at the very end of the diff. I would suggest rather than using a full on 1/4 burst, trying to use broken streams instead like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477080

[MX]00:16:117 (16117|0,16182|1,16248|0) - 00:15:590 (15590|3,15656|2,15722|3) - stuff like this triggers me pls. Try doing something like this instead https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477090
00:29:274 (29274|1,29274|0) - You're probably going to think this is dumb, and it probably is, but I'd consider moving this over to be [34] since 00:29:143 (29143|3,29143|2,29274|0,29274|1,29406|3,29406|2) - are all the same pitch. Alternatively, you could map the kick at 00:29:209 - and make it like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477101
00:33:682 - ur undermapping leik mi nao https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477109
00:36:906 - shoots Don't oppress the guitar. Use single notes.
00:57:169 - I'd suggest making the pattern like this for comfort cause the one right now is like, "o, there are notes on both hands. ok" https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477120
01:14:801 - shoots again
01:58:748 - Add an LN in 2 and end at 01:59:011 - for the reverse cymbal sound?
Topic Starter
puxtu

Protastic101 wrote:

u lewd-tu

col 1|2|3|4

uwu
[HD]00:12:432 (12432|1) - I'd consider making this an LN and ending at 00:12:696 - to act as a transition into the next section of the song, and for the guitar. just following drum sound only
00:35:985 - Awkward pause here since there's still a kick playing here. I get the patterns are done for emphasis, but this song changes from downbeats to upbeats getting the emphasis all the time. Just map it the way it would normally be mapped, cause some of these sudden changes in style when the music is the same are random af to me. this one has a weaker sound compared with the kick right here 00:35:722 (35722|2) - maybe the drummer screwed and missed it or idk
00:57:432 (57432|3,57432|1) - why double? The snare comes in at 00:57:564 - , not on the downbeat. Hell, I might consider removing both notes completely since there's no kick there, but then I'm contradicting myself from earlier :^) yeahj it's for cymbal
01:06:709 (66709|0,66774|1,66774|3,66840|2) - Feels unnatural to play for me, but that's probably cause I hate [24] chords with a passion. Anyways, try this instead maybe https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477023 hm funny, tbh I like them :v
01:48:748 (108748|3,109011|2,109274|1) - I'd consider making these 1/2 LNs to accent the vocals/guitar emphasis here. ye just drums
01:59:011 (119011|3,119011|2,119011|0) - This is the first time you've used a triple at all in this song, and it isn't even for a crash. Reduce it to 2 notes similar to places like 00:12:696 - 00:21:117 - Anyways, don't use a triple so far into the song if you haven't introduced one previously.since it's the beginning of kiai and the sound is kinda differently loud, I guess it's fine to add a triple here
That's quite the difficulty spike you have at the very end of the diff. I would suggest rather than using a full on 1/4 burst, trying to use broken streams instead like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477080 I tried to make the stream as simple as I can without ruinning the consistency and this is the best I can do, sorry but those broken streams feels really weird for me when I'm testing it :/

[MX]
00:36:906 - shoots Don't oppress the guitar. Use single notes. idk man, I just feel don't like to. the std guys also didn't map the guitar here so ye
00:57:169 - I'd suggest making the pattern like this for comfort cause the one right now is like, "o, there are notes on both hands. ok" https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6477120
01:14:801 - shoots again dodges
01:58:748 - Add an LN in 2 and end at 01:59:011 - for the reverse cymbal sound? hm nah, the sound is too quiet
I did everything else
thanks!
Protastic101
Mania check
Hitsounds
[HD]00:04:274 (4274|3,4406|3,6380|0,6511|0) - Claps. You have claps here in MX, but not HD you baka.
01:31:906 (91906|2,92169|2,92432|3) - Add claps to these like you did in MX.
02:18:946 (138946|3,139011|2) - I think the hitsound on this is supposed to be flipped lol.
02:19:011 (139011|2) - I'd also consider adding a finish here cause there's one in the music.
02:23:222 (143222|2) - Add a clap here since there's one in MX.

[MX]00:17:038 (17038|0) - Remove one finish you baka; you have 2 here of the same drum sample set
01:23:551 (83551|0,83682|1) - Add a clap to these since HD uses claps here instead of finishes.
01:39:801 (99801|0,100064|0,100327|3) - I don't think these claps are necessary

Diffs
[HD]01:02:696 (62696|2) - I think this is easier to hit at 1 since the player can read the next 3 chords at [14] with 01:02:959 (62959|3,62959|0,63222|0,63222|3) - and focus on hitting the 1/4 correctly.
01:04:801 (64801|0) - Move to 2 to avoid a 1/1 stack 01:05:064 (65064|0) - which I don't think looks as nice as if the notes were spaced out farther between columns.
01:49:011 (109011|2,109274|1) - I'd still like to see this stacked with 01:48:748 (108748|3) - but whatever u meenie
01:54:011 (114011|0,114143|3) - and 01:54:406 (114406|0,114538|3) - Why are these the only two unjacked notes in this section? Stack the notes on the 1/2 line with the note in the double.
Still a large diff spike at the end :<<<

[MX]00:24:932 - There's a crash here. Not sure if you wanna add a triple or not since it might appear randomly to players.
00:25:327 - Also maybe triple for this, but then again, you don't use triples that much in this diff so I think it's fine.
00:31:774 (31774|1,31774|3,31774|2,32038|0,32038|2,32038|1,32301|1,32301|3,32301|0) - Since these are all on the upbeat, I think it'd be a nice idea to stack them all in the same column as 00:32:564 (32564|2,32564|3,32564|0) - , so it'd look like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6493969 Also, SVs would be 10/10 here, but whatever you choose.
00:58:222 (58222|2,58353|3) - Imo, it's easier to read this if you control J since column 3 won't be as empty, so better hand balance I guess.
01:07:169 (67169|3,67169|2,67301|0,67301|1) - Again, jacks are a nice idea for this since the sounds are the exact same and it's a transition.
I'll leave the other diffs to the other BNs who are 10x better than me for bubble and qual I guess?
Topic Starter
puxtu
rank is near
Topic Starter
puxtu
nerfed my last stream
didn't add any sv
did everything else
Protastic101
rechecked and found no problems, mania 10/10 packs bags and leaves thread
Topic Starter
puxtu
thx for the b-day present <3
Natsu
pishi's Extreme
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  1. 00:19:011 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't get your comboing, mainly 00:19:932 (4) - I think it should be a NC, since it doesn't belong to the same pattern 00:19:274 (1,2,3) - and its spacing increases a lot, I'd just group them 00:19:932 (4,5,1) - in the same combo.
  2. 00:28:485 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing is super weird, visually and rhythmically talking, since 00:28:617 (2,4) - have similar pitch, I understand that maybe is because 00:28:814 (3) - , but still the spacing feels really short compared to 00:28:485 (1,2) -, maybe try a similar spacing to 00:27:761 (3,4) -
  3. 00:32:827 (1,2,3) - not a fan of this sliders, anyways maybe you can make a better blanket with 2 and 3
  4. 01:10:853 (3,4,5) - this is touching the HP bar and doesn't looks nice. 02:10:064 (2) - same
  5. HP 6 is better :l
Kaifin's Expert
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  1. 00:12:169 (1,1,1) - the sliders shapes don't looks nice and the overlap 00:12:169 (1,1) - also don't looks nice, the whole pattern looks more like a mistake than a planned thing, I believe you can do something better.
  2. 00:16:906 (1,2,1,1) - 00:17:696 (1,1) - the comboing is weird and don't make sense with the song, I'd agree with this if you remove this NC 00:17:301 (1) - and 00:17:827 (1) -
  3. 00:37:696 (1) - mapping this is super weird, since why you would map the last beat in the break section, just start mapping where the new section is starting 00:37:959 (1) -
  4. 00:38:485 (1,2,1,2) - 00:40:590 (1,2,1,2) - 00:42:696 (1,2,1,2) - 00:45:853 (1,2,1,2) - etc some sliders tails in this patterns don't land in nothing in the music, so I don't see a reason for this kind patterns to exist in the first place, mapping to the song is always better.
  5. 00:47:169 (2,1) - this looks like 1/4 spacing , you should increase the distance here, since the other similar beats have bigger spacing
  6. 01:05:327 (1) - the slider tail sounds too loud
  7. 01:11:906 (1,1) - 01:12:432 (1,1) - same as 00:16:906 (1,2,1,1) -
Fiery's Extra
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  1. 00:36:774 (1) - this beat is really strong and the spacing 00:36:511 (7,1) - is too short :l
call me back if the bolded things are fixed
Topic Starter
puxtu
If there's still no ctb bn check by the time std set ready, I'm afraid I have to remove that diff.
Kaifin

Natsu wrote:

Kaifin's Expert
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  1. 00:12:169 (1,1,1) - the sliders shapes don't looks nice and the overlap 00:12:169 (1,1) - also don't looks nice, the whole pattern looks more like a mistake than a planned thing, I believe you can do something better. my life is a mistake, fixed first slider shape and spaced more so it wasnt cluttered
  2. 00:16:906 (1,2,1,1) - 00:17:696 (1,1) - the comboing is weird and don't make sense with the song, I'd agree with this if you remove this NC 00:17:301 (1) - and 00:17:827 (1) - comboing is for readability: the player will have harder time reading if its not NC'd, and the NCs follow the sectioned guitar (1, 1 2 3) that the pattern is following
  3. 00:37:696 (1) - mapping this is super weird, since why you would map the last beat in the break section, just start mapping where the new section is starting 00:37:959 (1) - talked about in irc
  4. 00:38:485 (1,2,1,2) - 00:40:590 (1,2,1,2) - 00:42:696 (1,2,1,2) - 00:45:853 (1,2,1,2) - etc some sliders tails in this patterns don't land in nothing in the music, so I don't see a reason for this kind patterns to exist in the first place, mapping to the song is always better. talked about in irc
  5. 00:47:169 (2,1) - this looks like 1/4 spacing , you should increase the distance here, since the other similar beats have bigger spacing yes
  6. 01:05:327 (1) - the slider tail sounds too loud silenced
  7. 01:11:906 (1,1) - 01:12:432 (1,1) - same as 00:16:906 (1,2,1,1) - as explained above
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fieryrage
http://puu.sh/sGDKZ/1944774620.osu fixed by increasing spacing a bit and making the ugly out-of-place slider into two circles instead
pishifat
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puxtu
updated and removed the ctb diff.
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