14:27 SnowNiNo_: o/
14:27 SnowNiNo_: you there?
14:27 NeilPerry: yup
14:27 NeilPerry: o/
14:27 SnowNiNo_: got time to irc now?
14:28 NeilPerry: yes
14:28 SnowNiNo_: k
14:29 SnowNiNo_: first thing i wanna say this 00:10:806 (4,5,6) - this kinda stuff
14:29 SnowNiNo_: avoid linear flow, cuz is hard to play for players
14:30 SnowNiNo_: 00:31:668 (1) - unnecessary nc
14:30 SnowNiNo_: 00:33:047 (6,1) - spaced more, cuz we usually used this spacing for 1/1, but is 1/2 here, itll cause misread
14:32 NeilPerry: yup fixed
14:32 SnowNiNo_: 00:55:461 - oky start from this part
14:32 SnowNiNo_: mute all sliderend would sound nicer
14:33 SnowNiNo_: cuz there isnt any clear sound at the sliderend
14:33 SnowNiNo_: so if you didnt mute it would sound rly weird
14:33 SnowNiNo_: 01:22:013 (4,5,6) - avoid lol
14:34 NeilPerry: mby just make lower volume?
14:34 SnowNiNo_: i would said mute is better
14:34 SnowNiNo_: like decreased the volume to 5%
14:35 SnowNiNo_: or used a silence hitsound
14:35 SnowNiNo_: tell me when you are done lol
14:36 NeilPerry: we can continue
14:37 SnowNiNo_: oj
14:37 SnowNiNo_: ok
14:37 SnowNiNo_: .
14:37 SnowNiNo_: next i want to say is 01:28:564 -
14:37 SnowNiNo_: from this part
14:38 SnowNiNo_: is there any reason to used different spacing for streams lol?
14:38 SnowNiNo_: stuff like 01:30:633 (4,5,6,7,8) -
14:38 SnowNiNo_: 01:31:668 (2,3,4) -
14:38 SnowNiNo_: obviously the spacing is different
14:38 SnowNiNo_: 01:32:702 (1,2,3) - and 01:33:392 (5,6,7,8,9) -
14:38 NeilPerry: i take ideas from aiceo's maps. He rotate spacing through patterns
14:39 SnowNiNo_: can i have the map lol?
14:39 SnowNiNo_: cuz usually we used different spacing for streams cuz the music is different
14:39 SnowNiNo_: rather higher pitch or lower
14:40 NeilPerry: .тз
14:40 *NeilPerry is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/687303 TwoThirds & Feint - Epiphany (feat. Veela)]
14:40 SnowNiNo_: using different spacing is good way to express the music
14:41 SnowNiNo_: ok where is the part
14:42 NeilPerry: w8
14:42 SnowNiNo_: so far i see the streams got a same spacing tho
14:42 SnowNiNo_: oky
14:42 NeilPerry: real, he dont change space
14:42 NeilPerry: just stack
14:43 SnowNiNo_: yap
14:43 SnowNiNo_: he got consist structure
14:43 SnowNiNo_: k back to your map
14:44 SnowNiNo_: so from 01:28:564 - itll be better if you consist the spacing of the streams
14:45 SnowNiNo_: things like 01:30:633 (4,5,6,7,8) - 01:31:668 (2,3,4) - that are not connect with sliders
14:45 SnowNiNo_: and you can have a different sapcing usage that connect with slider like 01:29:254 (4,5,6) - 01:32:702 (1,2,3) - 01:35:461 (1,2,3) -
14:45 SnowNiNo_: rtc
14:45 SnowNiNo_: etc*
14:46 SnowNiNo_: stay consist
14:46 SnowNiNo_: consistent*
14:46 NeilPerry: oky, i will change this pattern
14:46 SnowNiNo_: oky
14:46 SnowNiNo_: move on xd
14:46 NeilPerry: but not now, some later after mod. cuz need to think how to change structure
14:47 SnowNiNo_: yea i know
14:47 SnowNiNo_: take a note first xd
14:47 SnowNiNo_: k next part 01:47:875 -
14:47 SnowNiNo_: i dont get it why you used smaller spacing at the most intense part lol?
14:48 SnowNiNo_: and i mean much smaller then 01:47:530 (1,2) -
14:48 NeilPerry: i see it from skystars map, when he expressed the intesne parts wil lower space
14:48 NeilPerry: with*
14:48 SnowNiNo_: thats suck
14:49 SnowNiNo_: lo
14:49 SnowNiNo_: which map
14:49 NeilPerry: 01:49:082 (4,1) - and this is a culmination
14:49 SnowNiNo_: im not talking about dat tho =w=
14:50 SnowNiNo_: i mean 01:47:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) -
14:51 SnowNiNo_: well nvm
14:51 NeilPerry: well
14:51 SnowNiNo_: just want to tell you 01:47:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - deserved largest spacing xd
14:51 SnowNiNo_: cuz 01:47:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - is more intense then 01:47:185 (1,2,1,2) - so yea
14:51 NeilPerry: i will think about it
14:52 SnowNiNo_: k
14:52 SnowNiNo_: 01:51:840 (3) - i suggest kickslider here either
14:52 SnowNiNo_: cuz you used a kick at 01:52:185 (2) - either and the sound is the same
14:53 SnowNiNo_: same thing here 01:53:220 (2) -
14:53 SnowNiNo_: 01:54:599 (2) -
14:53 SnowNiNo_: etc
14:53 SnowNiNo_: 01:55:978 (3) -
14:53 SnowNiNo_: well is just weird to used different usage at the same sound xd
14:53 SnowNiNo_: at least for me
14:54 SnowNiNo_: cuz i mainly focus on consistent when im mapping so ill be nazi at these stuff aha xd
14:54 NeilPerry: oky, will think about it later too
14:55 SnowNiNo_: cuz you used a different usage at 01:57:185 (1,2,1,2) -
14:55 SnowNiNo_: compare with 01:51:668 (2,3,1,2) - 01:54:426 (1,2,3,4) - and 01:57:185 (1,2,1,2) -
14:56 SnowNiNo_: obviously the usage is different
14:56 SnowNiNo_: better stay consist
14:56 SnowNiNo_: and the NC usage is different either
14:56 NeilPerry: 01:57:702 (2) -
14:56 NeilPerry: just change this
14:57 NeilPerry: to kickslider?
14:57 SnowNiNo_: yap
14:57 NeilPerry: oky
14:57 SnowNiNo_: and NC 01:54:771 (3) -
14:57 NeilPerry: i have probs with nc
14:57 NeilPerry: i cant do it intuatively
14:57 SnowNiNo_: and NC here 01:51:668 (2) -
14:57 NeilPerry: just for me: new sv - new nc
14:57 NeilPerry:
14:58 NeilPerry: fixed
14:58 SnowNiNo_: um
14:58 SnowNiNo_: not exactly corrent
14:58 SnowNiNo_: if the sv change isnt that obvious then you dont need to nc
14:59 SnowNiNo_: thing like x1 to x1.2 you dont need to nc this
14:59 SnowNiNo_: but from x0.5 to x1.5 you need to nc
14:59 SnowNiNo_: stuff like this
14:59 SnowNiNo_: hmm
14:59 NeilPerry: I know, Byfar told me that i should change nc only with a great gap of sv
15:00 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:00 SnowNiNo_: thats right
15:00 SnowNiNo_: 01:50:633 (1,1,1) -
15:00 SnowNiNo_: see here
15:00 SnowNiNo_: the NCs is unnecessary
15:00 NeilPerry: But i realy rarely feel this moments
15:00 NeilPerry: for nc
15:00 SnowNiNo_: well you can NC, but is unnecessary
15:01 NeilPerry: better delete nc
15:01 NeilPerry: 01:56:151 (1,2,3) -
15:01 NeilPerry: cuz here i dont use it
15:01 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:01 NeilPerry: for consistency
15:01 NeilPerry: right?
15:01 SnowNiNo_: and the sv change better to stay consist either
15:01 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:01 SnowNiNo_: xd
15:01 SnowNiNo_: you got it
15:01 NeilPerry:
15:01 NeilPerry: okay
15:01 NeilPerry: nc fixed
15:02 NeilPerry: and i add kick slider
15:02 SnowNiNo_: oky
15:02 NeilPerry: 01:57:702 (2) -
15:02 NeilPerry: here
15:02 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:02 SnowNiNo_: move on
15:02 SnowNiNo_: 01:59:944 (3,4,5) - here
15:02 SnowNiNo_: i would say change to 2 kick
15:03 SnowNiNo_: more fit to the music imo xd
15:03 NeilPerry: 02:00:030 (4) -
15:03 NeilPerry: delete this note?
15:03 SnowNiNo_:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586552215:03 SnowNiNo_: try this
15:04 NeilPerry: oky, i will do, but later
15:04 NeilPerry: beat more cool
15:04 SnowNiNo_: k
15:04 SnowNiNo_: 02:13:909 (4,1,2) - avoid linear
15:05 SnowNiNo_: 02:15:806 (1) - dont need to NC here
15:05 SnowNiNo_: 02:18:564 (1) - same ^
15:05 NeilPerry: fixed
15:05 NeilPerry: dunno how to avoid
15:06 NeilPerry: 02:13:909 (4,1,2) -
15:06 NeilPerry: this
15:06 SnowNiNo_: nah you donr need to fix dat lol
15:06 SnowNiNo_: jus when you mapping next map just avoid it xd
15:06 NeilPerry: uh, okay
15:06 SnowNiNo_: 02:36:840 (4,5,6,7) - meh
15:07 SnowNiNo_: this pays suck
15:07 SnowNiNo_: plays*
15:07 SnowNiNo_: i know you are trying to express the synth
15:07 NeilPerry: how say naitoshi: 2012 russians flow
15:07 SnowNiNo_: =w=
15:08 NeilPerry: mby i will restruct this part
15:08 SnowNiNo_: if you only want to make 02:37:357 (7) - different spacing
15:08 SnowNiNo_:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586553615:08 SnowNiNo_: this is much better
15:08 SnowNiNo_: then the original one
15:09 SnowNiNo_: same thing at 02:39:599 (2,3,4,5) - 02:42:357 (3,4,5,6) - etc
15:09 NeilPerry: 02:47:530 (2,3,4,5) -
15:09 NeilPerry: like here?
15:09 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:09 SnowNiNo_: but
15:10 SnowNiNo_: make spacing 6>7 bigger
15:10 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5865539 try this]
15:10 NeilPerry: oky
15:11 SnowNiNo_: i moved 7 and change 02:48:564 (1) -
15:11 SnowNiNo_: so all the similar part change to 02:47:530 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) -
15:11 SnowNiNo_: would play more better
15:11 SnowNiNo_: much*
15:11 SnowNiNo_: yap 02:50:633 (3,4,5,6) - etc..
15:11 SnowNiNo_: not mentioning again xd
15:12 SnowNiNo_: k next
15:12 SnowNiNo_: 02:54:771 (3,4,5) - and 02:55:461 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
15:12 NeilPerry: hah
15:13 SnowNiNo_: spacing is similar to 1/4, ill cause misread, so make the spacing bigger here
15:13 NeilPerry: 02:54:771 (3,4,5) -
15:13 NeilPerry: so
15:13 SnowNiNo_: 02:54:771 (3,4,5) - expecially here
15:13 NeilPerry: i can stack it
15:13 SnowNiNo_: no sont stack
15:13 SnowNiNo_: you can stack 02:56:151 (1,2,3) -
15:13 SnowNiNo_: but not 02:54:771 (3,4,5) -
15:13 SnowNiNo_: cuz is still intense at 02:54:771 (3,4,5) -
15:14 NeilPerry: okay
15:15 SnowNiNo_:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586555915:15 SnowNiNo_:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/586556215:16 SnowNiNo_: hopr you can read xd
15:16 SnowNiNo_: oh wait
15:17 SnowNiNo_: 02:54:771 (3,4,5) - dont change this
15:17 SnowNiNo_: fk i thought is 1/2 here
15:17 NeilPerry: sure
15:17 NeilPerry:
15:17 SnowNiNo_: just cahnge 02:55:461 (1,2,3,1,2,3) -
15:17 NeilPerry: yup
15:17 NeilPerry: fixed
15:17 SnowNiNo_: you can consult with my second picture
15:18 SnowNiNo_: ok
15:18 NeilPerry: ye, do same
15:18 SnowNiNo_: 02:57:530 (1) - dont NC here for consistent
15:18 SnowNiNo_: and here
15:18 SnowNiNo_: 03:06:323 (1,2,3,4) -
15:19 SnowNiNo_: first NC 03:06:495 (2) - instead of 03:06:323 (1) -
15:19 SnowNiNo_: and separate 03:06:323 (1,2) - here
15:19 SnowNiNo_: cuz the music dat youre following is different
15:19 NeilPerry: can u show me explain?
15:20 SnowNiNo_: uh
15:20 SnowNiNo_: wait
15:20 SnowNiNo_: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5865585 something like this]
15:22 NeilPerry: yup
15:22 SnowNiNo_: done?
15:22 NeilPerry: fixed
15:22 SnowNiNo_: oky
15:22 NeilPerry: but in my own way
15:22 SnowNiNo_: sure sure xd
15:22 SnowNiNo_: and next
15:22 SnowNiNo_: 03:09:944 (4,5,6,7) -
15:22 SnowNiNo_: again
15:22 SnowNiNo_: lol
15:22 SnowNiNo_: just do the same thing like 02:47:185 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
15:22 SnowNiNo_: you know
15:23 SnowNiNo_: we talk about this xd
15:23 NeilPerry: yup
15:23 NeilPerry:
15:23 SnowNiNo_: oh
15:23 SnowNiNo_: 03:09:944 (4) -
15:23 SnowNiNo_: NC
15:23 SnowNiNo_: for consistent
15:24 NeilPerry: yup
15:24 SnowNiNo_: 03:17:530 (1) - unnecessary nc
15:24 SnowNiNo_: 03:22:702 (8) - missing clap
15:25 NeilPerry: fixed
15:25 SnowNiNo_: 03:27:875 (3,4,5) - make the spacing same as 03:26:495 (5,6,7,8,9) - for consist
15:25 NeilPerry: 03:29:254 (4,5,6,7,8) -
15:25 NeilPerry: im rise up
15:26 NeilPerry: through pattern
15:26 SnowNiNo_: but 03:27:875 (3,4,5) - here should got dat large spacing tho
15:27 SnowNiNo_: compare to others here got more intense spacing change then others
15:27 NeilPerry: oky
15:28 NeilPerry: fix it
15:28 SnowNiNo_: k
15:28 SnowNiNo_: move on
15:29 SnowNiNo_: 03:30:633 (3,4,5) - make the spacing same as 03:32:013 (4,5,6) -
15:29 SnowNiNo_: for consistent
15:29 SnowNiNo_: 03:46:151 (4) - NC for emphasized
15:29 SnowNiNo_: 03:49:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - same thing b4
15:29 SnowNiNo_: =w=
15:30 SnowNiNo_: tell me when you are done
15:30 NeilPerry: fixed
15:31 SnowNiNo_: k
15:31 SnowNiNo_: 03:52:013 - from this kiai
15:32 SnowNiNo_: aw
15:32 SnowNiNo_: similar part like 03:53:047 - 03:55:806 - 03:58:564 -
15:32 SnowNiNo_: etc
15:33 SnowNiNo_: i would say
15:33 SnowNiNo_: make them all the same as 03:58:564 -
15:33 SnowNiNo_: uh no
15:33 SnowNiNo_: 04:04:082 -
15:33 SnowNiNo_: make them all the same as 04:04:082 -
15:34 SnowNiNo_: you know why lol?
15:34 NeilPerry: sure
15:34 NeilPerry: for consistence
15:34 SnowNiNo_: oky xdd
15:34 NeilPerry:
15:34 SnowNiNo_: and 04:04:082 - this part you express music really good
15:35 SnowNiNo_: and same 04:09:599 -
15:35 SnowNiNo_: and the NC usage better to stay consist either
15:37 SnowNiNo_: tell me when you are done
15:37 NeilPerry: i will fix it later
15:37 SnowNiNo_: or you gonna fix later
15:37 SnowNiNo_: o
15:37 SnowNiNo_: oky
15:37 NeilPerry: cuz need to think about structure
15:37 NeilPerry: with new sliders
15:37 SnowNiNo_: sure sure
15:38 SnowNiNo_: k 04:12:702 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - here
15:38 SnowNiNo_: try this
15:38 SnowNiNo_:
http://puu.sh/qEiyM/4f515e7cfe.jpg15:38 SnowNiNo_: fir the musicmore
15:39 NeilPerry: will think about it
15:39 NeilPerry: good idea
15:39 NeilPerry: but need to remap stream then
15:39 SnowNiNo_: and consist the structure here
15:39 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:40 SnowNiNo_: 04:16:151 (4,5,6,7) - and yea this part again xdd
15:41 NeilPerry: hah
15:41 SnowNiNo_: oh you havent fix 04:24:857 (8,1,2,1) - yet
15:41 NeilPerry: i have no ideas
15:41 NeilPerry: but i will fix it soon
15:41 SnowNiNo_: need suggestion?
15:42 SnowNiNo_: or youll do it yourself
15:42 NeilPerry: i ll invent it myself.
15:42 NeilPerry: i dunno about spacing
15:43 NeilPerry: need to surf some captin's maps
15:43 SnowNiNo_: okyoky
15:43 SnowNiNo_: k from 04:36:151 -
15:44 SnowNiNo_: all the triplet like 04:36:840 (3,4,5) -
15:44 SnowNiNo_: should have the smaller spacing
15:44 SnowNiNo_: then
15:44 SnowNiNo_: 04:26:840 (2,3,4) -
15:44 SnowNiNo_: cuz compare with the music
15:44 SnowNiNo_: 04:26:840 (2,3,4) - is calmer then 04:26:840 (2,3,4) -
15:44 NeilPerry: 00:17:530 (3,4,5) -
15:44 SnowNiNo_: so the spacing shouldnt be the same
15:44 NeilPerry: like here?
15:45 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:46 SnowNiNo_: 04:57:530 (6,1) -
15:46 SnowNiNo_: same spacing problem
15:48 SnowNiNo_: oky thats it
15:49 NeilPerry: fixed
15:49 NeilPerry: UH
15:50 NeilPerry: thats all?
15:50 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:50 NeilPerry: so i need to fix this part
15:50 NeilPerry: 01:28:564 -
15:50 NeilPerry: stream after second kiai
15:50 NeilPerry: and restructure jumps before kiai
15:51 SnowNiNo_: yap
15:51 NeilPerry: big thanks <3
15:52 NeilPerry: u will post it on forum plz?
15:52 SnowNiNo_: sure