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I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
was the bolded part really necessarySoul Evans wrote:
I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?Halogen- wrote:
was the bolded part really necessarySoul Evans wrote:
I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.[/quote]
You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.[/quote]
You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
gah... you didn't quite get the point either.blackout3015 wrote:
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.
The point that I was insinuating off of my post is that I'm actually extremely open to the changes and have no issue dealing with them, regardless of whether or not it affects me or the rest of my team. Remember that I am someone who is an open advocate to score v2, and I am also an advocate that is quite critical and wanting to help in the process by testing, whether that testing involves data or actual play.
But it's not about that: the change in rules is just an additional challenge that I personally appreciate, it's just... not refined. For me, it has nothing to do with winning, and that's why I highlighted the bold part. Winning or losing doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that everyone has a good time, disagreements with the rules aside. It should be a reasonably level playing field.
This is exactly what this specific mwc needs actually, people like you AJ, but that might not be the case for everyone however i was just pointing out that there can be ~those~ kind of mindset as to why they dislike ScoreV2 being featured in this years tourney.
This tournament should be called "V2 tournament" instead of "world cup", just as the brackets should be called "free-bracket" and "mod-bracket" instead of "NoMod" and "FreeMod", because
- winning a tournament that is about something new/a specific cathegory doesnt make you a "champion" in general
- a bracket where FI/HD are optional isnt NoMod
- a bracket where you're forced to use a mod isn't FreeMod
That shouldn't matter that much since everyone basically knows of ''scoreV2'' and they probably checked the wiki / all teams should've read the rules to understand what's going on.LastExceed wrote:
This tournament should be called "V2 tournament" instead of "world cup", just as the brackets should be called "free-bracket" and "mod-bracket" instead of "NoMod" and "FreeMod", becauseIt's not bad the way it is, the names are just very misleading.
- winning a tournament that is about something new/a specific cathegory doesnt make you a "champion" in general
- a bracket where FI/HD are optional isnt NoMod
- a bracket where you're forced to use a mod isn't FreeMod
Hii, i'm 2k full 4k, can i go for the MWC :3
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
bit late mate. registrations have already closed. and yes, it's one 1 per countryLeHuuks wrote:
Hii, i'm 2k full 4k, can i go for the MWC :3
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
Oh shit :/ is there any other way to rgister or its closed closed ? 
its closed closed. you're way too late.LeHuuks wrote:
Oh shit :/ is there any other way to rgister or its closed closed ?
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
to be fair, you wouldn't even be in the team anyways-Classy wrote:
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
edit: yea you have a point for the cilent thing on foresight
There was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed-Classy wrote:
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
-Classy does have a point in here since all other world cups were announced both in the client AND in the news feed.Cryolien wrote:
here was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed
Oh, that's my bad then.whoopsLastExceed wrote:
-Classy does have a point in here since all other world cups were announced both in the client AND in the news feed.Cryolien wrote:
here was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed
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Rolling out the first teams to the wiki.
On a side note, I believe score v2 is now available on Stable, too. Keep in mind that if you use Fallback, you won't be able to play.
On a side note, I believe score v2 is now available on Stable, too. Keep in mind that if you use Fallback, you won't be able to play.
I am already shaking
Just asking, did Venezuela qualify to take part in this year's MWC 4k?
You can at least do something decent ^^.juankristal wrote:
I am already shaking
I am just a casual newb passing by.
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
it isn't allowed since few years ago for official tournamentsPiggy wrote:
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
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You can reside wherever you are, what matters alone is your profile flag. However, if your entire team is in Canada and you are in China, I hardly can have the match times align properly for you and the rest of your team, so be aware that I can't take your unusual timezone (relative to your team) into consideration.Piggy wrote:
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
commentators are now on the wiki for those interested. i'm sure there'll be a few names there many of you will know
SOFT squad assembled o7
-Kamikaze- wrote:
SOFT squad assembled o7
InBigSister
I think you should contact tournaments@ppy.sh tho it might be a bit late at this moment.InBigSister wrote:
Loctav
Hello
I am from Macao OSU！Mania！ Player.
I world like to ask you about this 4k World Cup.
I have entered the competition.
But why the Players list without me.
My ID is InBigSister
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The wiki is updated now! check it out!
A very minor detail, Chile now uses UTC-4, it changes back to UTC-3 on August, 13th. 
why
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I'll keep that in mind for the future stages!WalterToro wrote:
A very minor detail, Chile now uses UTC-4, it changes back to UTC-3 on August, 13th.
Hello i've got a question and it is how can i enter? Im #5 in spain but im not in but i see a #24 and he is in the team...
You were suppose to go here and register but it ended already if you look at the date for the Registration Phase (28 Jun - 17 Jul 2016) it already ended. Pretty much you're too late.Grek69 wrote:
Hello i've got a question and it is how can i enter? Im #5 in spain but im not in but i see a #24 and he is in the team...
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
If this is going to be SPFT rippoff....... Where are the pink fluffy unicorns?
Is this now good or...?
You need to use at least Stable for the MWC. You cant use fallback.lim38 wrote:
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
I NEVER BREAK MY PROMISESFeerum wrote:
Is this now good or...?
ok
Pretty sure that this is a binding contract by law. Pretty sure.Feerum wrote:
Is this now good or...?
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.juankristal wrote:
You need to use at least Stable for the MWC. You cant use fallback.lim38 wrote:
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
Thats because V2 is not implemented on fallback. So when you have songs that are OD8 or higher the accuracy room is tighter.lim38 wrote:
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.
Yeah I know, but my latency is different between those versions.juankristal wrote:
Thats because V2 is not implemented on fallback. So when you have songs that are OD8 or higher the accuracy room is tighter.lim38 wrote:
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.
fuck too late to sign up
dont worry im ok, still in the FFR tourney 
Waiting for Korea vs. USA GF's like
Brain Power isn't original enough.... Try that instead https://osu.ppy.sh/s/435882
I CAN FINALLY SLEEP.
Amazing match between Sweden and Germany, if you have some time watch the VoD.
Amazing match between Sweden and Germany, if you have some time watch the VoD.
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wiki updated, yo!
Quick question, When the support banners will be released?
soonTM.WalterToro wrote:
Quick question, When the support banners will be released?
Likely to be released before this weekend, still not sure the exact moment.
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Profile banners are now up for sale! http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/150
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I already put the mappool on the wiki. Schedule and rest will follow tomorrow!
Todestrieb wrote:
LOL
Come on Team America I believe in you.
I made the Team America 2016 op.
Enjoy.
I made the Team America 2016 op.
Enjoy.
THAT VIDEO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHAT
Damn XIZ, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE PARODY VIDEOS
Damn XIZ, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE PARODY VIDEOS
Best of luck to all teams in the upcoming round. I won't be there to commentate as I've been in the hospital since Monday. Looking forward to watching live or seeing the vods though!
Regarding the SK vs Japan WBD - Snow Wind apparently couldn't make it due to work (https://twitter.com/HNC_KSnyan/status/766966874345082880) and denkyu is mentioning some typhoon effect (https://twitter.com/denkyu_estlight/status/767044306804678656) but I don't understand it well enough to know, whether he is talking about himself or not.
The typhoon thing aside, I would imagine in case of Snow Wind, he knew about the upcoming work and hence Japan maybe didn't like the time? This is what I found in rules:
Anyways, too bad we missed the highlight of quarterfinals Hopefully Halogen delivers lots of rainbow later today
The typhoon thing aside, I would imagine in case of Snow Wind, he knew about the upcoming work and hence Japan maybe didn't like the time? This is what I found in rules:
In the stages Quarter-finals and higher: Please inform tournament management before Sunday, if you expect a specific time slot to be unavailable in the following week. Wishes are tried to be followed, alas no promises can be made.The way I understand it, teams must inform you before schedule is done by you, so they must preventively declare unwanted time slots. Did Japan screw up by not telling you about Snow Wind's unavailability during this time?
Anyways, too bad we missed the highlight of quarterfinals
Hopefully Halogen delivers lots of rainbow later today
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Wiki updated!
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Wiki updated! (again lol)
Halolgen did put a background in this finals map... Is this the end of the world?!
The end is near...juankristal wrote:
Halolgen did put a background in this finals map... Is this the end of the world?!
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
- Will Ztrot sing Brain Power if another WBD appear?
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
- Will Ztrot sing Brain Power if another WBD appear?
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
SK vs Japan confirmed? It can be, but I would say it is unlikelyVse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
If it wasnt for SK tho, this tourney would be sooo much harder to predict! Taking them down will be a pain for all the teams remaining at this point.
And I WOULD LOVE a tiebreaker in the finals
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
uh dude, did you forgot USA and Brazil ? i know they're not that strong as last year but still...
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
pls no lolololol
Grand finals will be South Korea vs. USA/Brazil/(slight shot: Japan?)
- Hayabusa has been really ruining things for the United Kingdom team with his lack of practice (although, Pipper is doing a hell of a job improving!). Yipyapyop will be a very welcome return, and honestly, Pipper -> Hayabusa sub seems viable for numerous maps given the aforementioned lack. Hayabusa's stronger as a player physically, for sure.
- Japan's roster is not deep, but inteliser is a fucking monster and Snow Wind is also great in his own right. PiraTom adds some depth by having a super-solid LN ability as a third player, but falls a little short on the speed side, making the team vulnerable against super speed picks. The wild-card who wasn't on the team last year, DenkyuSM, could be that bridge that mitigates some of that damage.
- Brazil is downright fucking dangerous, and a likely contender for the third place match against the loser between South Korea and USA. Their team is solid all-around, and their specialization in speed helps them tremendously. They also perform well on LN. Their struggles will be on the accuracy fronts on the speedier stuff, but their ability to combo can circumvent that.
- Hayabusa has been really ruining things for the United Kingdom team with his lack of practice (although, Pipper is doing a hell of a job improving!). Yipyapyop will be a very welcome return, and honestly, Pipper -> Hayabusa sub seems viable for numerous maps given the aforementioned lack. Hayabusa's stronger as a player physically, for sure.
- Japan's roster is not deep, but inteliser is a fucking monster and Snow Wind is also great in his own right. PiraTom adds some depth by having a super-solid LN ability as a third player, but falls a little short on the speed side, making the team vulnerable against super speed picks. The wild-card who wasn't on the team last year, DenkyuSM, could be that bridge that mitigates some of that damage.
- Brazil is downright fucking dangerous, and a likely contender for the third place match against the loser between South Korea and USA. Their team is solid all-around, and their specialization in speed helps them tremendously. They also perform well on LN. Their struggles will be on the accuracy fronts on the speedier stuff, but their ability to combo can circumvent that.
projectc1 wrote:
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
uh dude, did you forgot USA and Brazil ? i know they're not that strong as last year but still...
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
pls no lolololol
Yeah, I agree that USA and Brazil can impress us in finals. But USA playing vs SK, and Brazil also can play with Japan. So it's like "now or never". But still waiting to see their strength with that damn non humans xD.
France wins the whole tournament as the biggest surprise of the tournament confirmed!bumpinho wrote:
Meanwhile nobody knows anything about France.
I am looking for a cool match/matches from you tho!
juankristal wrote:
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
SK vs Japan confirmed? It can be, but I would say it is unlikely
If it wasnt for SK tho, this tourney would be sooo much harder to predict! Taking them down will be a pain for all the teams remaining at this point.
And I WOULD LOVE a tiebreaker in the finals
That must be fabulous, maybe one of the most hard predictive final stages!
The memes of this world cup are great.
juankristal wrote:
The memes of this world cup are great.
This picture is amazing
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The wiki has been updated! Grand Finals hype \o/
Yeah hype ...
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
e..his profile had changed in mwc7k 2016...not now..pivco wrote:
Yeah hype ...
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
Grats to south korea, gj to brazil to getting to finals
good stuff all around
good stuff all around
ggs!
Korean wall of consistency
Nice commentating by Halogen- and Daikyi, always nice to hear players feedback about mappools and such
Korean wall of consistency
Nice commentating by Halogen- and Daikyi, always nice to hear players feedback about mappools and such
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Congratulations to South Korea for taking the cup! Brazil did an outstanding job, obtaining the 2nd place and the United States fought their way to the 3rd place, unfortunately able to defend their title but still remaining as one of the world strongest teams!
Thanks everyone for participating and watching! The wiki has been updated, user titles have been given out. profile badges and distribution of the prizes will happen in the course of the next days!
Thanks everyone for participating and watching! The wiki has been updated, user titles have been given out. profile badges and distribution of the prizes will happen in the course of the next days!
congrats to South Korea
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu!mania_4K_World_Cup_2016
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu!mania_4K_World_Cup_2016