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ok first of all I wanna apologize for my rude behaviour, I was upset and acted carelessly.juankristal wrote:
As Kamikaze said we will do some testings tomorrow to see what can we do. I still think changing stuff now is a nope for the low amount of time that we do have but worth the shot.
How about if you also try to give some data and input related to that? Like people already said, your post was just some images telling how bad this is without real arguments and if I have to guess thats why it was deleted.
We will see what do we find tomorrow
Second, I think I mentioned enough con-arguments, but I can list the main ones again:
- since some people see visual mods as handicap while others find them helpful it would strongly depend on the type of player a country is represented by instead of their actual skill
- banning mods in the default bracket makes no sense other than upsetting players who prefer them since they can be skinned anyway so you can just leave them in
- mod multipliers are very unbalanced atm and overall yet to be discussed
- it makes no sense to give a choice between 2 mods that have different multipliers
- the absolute majority of players doesn't like this system overall (its your choice whether you make this tournament for the community or for development purposes)
I'd rather say it's your turn to give some pro-arguments. the only one I recall atm is "we need to test scoreV2 somehow", which brings us back to con-argument #5.
Also, what about the testing results you mentioned?
EDIT: btw am I allowed to pick HD/FI ADDITIONALLY in the mod bracket when I decide to pick HR?
Okay so:LastExceed wrote:
ok first of all I wanna apologize for my rude behaviour, I was upset and acted carelessly.
Second, I think I mentioned enough con-arguments, but I can list the main ones again:
- since some people see visual mods as handicap while others find them helpful it would strongly depend on the type of player a country is represented by instead of their actual skill
- banning mods in the default bracket makes no sense other than upsetting players who prefer them since they can be skinned anyway so you can just leave them in
- mod multipliers are very unbalanced atm and overall yet to be discussed
- it makes no sense to give a choice between 2 mods that have different multipliers
- the absolute majority of players doesn't like this system overall (its your choice whether you make this tournament for the community or for development purposes)
I'd rather say it's your turn to give some pro-arguments. the only one I recall atm is "we need to test scoreV2 somehow", which brings us back to con-argument #5.
Also, what about the testing results you mentioned?
EDIT: btw am I allowed to pick HD/FI ADDITIONALLY in the mod bracket when I decide to pick HR?
#1 - That is fine in my opinion because 1) that's still a part of tactics around the tournament to either get a player to learn the mod or pick one who already can do the mod 2) people who find those mods to be helpful more often than not will struggle on nomod so you have a drawback either way
#2 - Those mods are banned (or moved to nomod rather) exactly because they can be skinned away and the effects of them can be neglected or neutralized by a decent amount. While I personally would leave FI in, that's staff's decision and I understand it
#3 - They are not yet to be discussed, they have been discussed and after I've tested some things (p/5317537 and presented it to smoogi he said the multipliers will be adjusted
#4 - That's arguable, while that is a valid point, I personally think that the harshness of the timing windows on OD10 + HR (+/- 24,5ms for 300, +/- 11,5ms for a max) warrants a slightly bigger multiplier to reward top tier accuracy more
#5 - I don't find that argument, or at least the back half of it a good excuse to just abandon all changes. People are afraid of changes, especially when you're changing something that has roots VERY deep in the community. I also can bet that half of the players hating on the changes didn't test it and just saw screens of the first version with 500k S score and other type of broken things alongside, while they may not be aware of all the changes and adjustments that have been done to v2 since then
And yes, you can use HD/FI alongside HR (since HD/FI and FL cancel out eachother) in freemod, they just count the same as nomod.
Aaah this is the kind of reply i've been looking for all the time, thank you so much-Kamikaze- wrote:
Okay so:LastExceed wrote:
ok first of all I wanna apologize for my rude behaviour, I was upset and acted carelessly.
Second, I think I mentioned enough con-arguments, but I can list the main ones again:
- since some people see visual mods as handicap while others find them helpful it would strongly depend on the type of player a country is represented by instead of their actual skill
- banning mods in the default bracket makes no sense other than upsetting players who prefer them since they can be skinned anyway so you can just leave them in
- mod multipliers are very unbalanced atm and overall yet to be discussed
- it makes no sense to give a choice between 2 mods that have different multipliers
- the absolute majority of players doesn't like this system overall (its your choice whether you make this tournament for the community or for development purposes)
I'd rather say it's your turn to give some pro-arguments. the only one I recall atm is "we need to test scoreV2 somehow", which brings us back to con-argument #5.
Also, what about the testing results you mentioned?
EDIT: btw am I allowed to pick HD/FI ADDITIONALLY in the mod bracket when I decide to pick HR?
#1 - That is fine in my opinion because 1) that's still a part of tactics around the tournament to either get a player to learn the mod or pick one who already can do the mod 2) people who find those mods to be helpful more often than not will struggle on nomod so you have a drawback either way
#2 - Those mods are banned (or moved to nomod rather) exactly because they can be skinned away and the effects of them can be neglected or neutralized by a decent amount. While I personally would leave FI in, that's staff's decision and I understand it
#3 - They are not yet to be discussed, they have been discussed and after I've tested some things (p/5317537 and presented it to smoogi he said the multipliers will be adjusted
#4 - That's arguable, while that is a valid point, I personally think that the harshness of the timing windows on OD10 + HR (+/- 24,5ms for 300, +/- 11,5ms for a max) warrants a slightly bigger multiplier to reward top tier accuracy more
#5 - I don't find that argument, or at least the back half of it a good excuse to just abandon all changes. People are afraid of changes, especially when you're changing something that has roots VERY deep in the community. I also can bet that half of the players hating on the changes didn't test it and just saw screens of the first version with 500k S score and other type of broken things alongside, while they may not be aware of all the changes and adjustments that have been done to v2 since then
And yes, you can use HD/FI alongside HR (since HD/FI and FL cancel out eachother) in freemod, they just count the same as nomod.
I have trouble understanding #2 though, how can visual mods be neglected via skin and why is that a reason to bann them? (since they dont give any score advantage)?
You can completely nullify the effect of cover increasing wiith combo and tbh you don't even need a skin for it, you can use your shirt, a piece of paper or whatever, and due to mods not being tied to hitposition of the skin, you can lower hitposition to the very bottom of your screen for FI and gain a lot more room to read.
I still dont understand how that would eliminate the visual handucap because your screen would still be covered. Adding a skinned cover would even increase the handicap since that way you have maximum shadow ALL THE TIME. I do understand the judgement line thing you mentioned for FI though.-Kamikaze- wrote:
You can completely nullify the effect of cover increasing wiith combo and tbh you don't even need a skin for it, you can use your shirt, a piece of paper or whatever, and due to mods not being tied to hitposition of the skin, you can lower hitposition to the very bottom of your screen for FI and gain a lot more room to read.
But even if it was possible to completely remove the shadow and regain full vision, why is that a reason to bann the mod? Theres no advantage to it
The shadow distance is not the largest inhibitor for everyone - it's the shadow changing position that turns out to be an issue.LastExceed wrote:
I still dont understand how that would eliminate the visual handucap because your screen would still be covered. Adding a skinned cover would even increase the handicap since that way you have maximum shadow ALL THE TIME. I do understand the judgement line thing you mentioned for FI though.-Kamikaze- wrote:
You can completely nullify the effect of cover increasing wiith combo and tbh you don't even need a skin for it, you can use your shirt, a piece of paper or whatever, and due to mods not being tied to hitposition of the skin, you can lower hitposition to the very bottom of your screen for FI and gain a lot more room to read.
But even if it was possible to completely remove the shadow and regain full vision, why is that a reason to bann the mod? Theres no advantage to it
Oh really? Didn't know that o.OHalogen- wrote:
The shadow distance is not the largest inhibitor for everyone - it's the shadow changing position that turns out to be an issue.
But still, I don't see why this is a reason to bann the mod, there's still no advangage to it.
Thats why FL is easier for most people because of stable vision area so you dont need any lanecovers.-Kamikaze- wrote:
You can completely nullify the effect of cover increasing wiith combo and tbh you don't even need a skin for it, you can use your shirt, a piece of paper or whatever, and due to mods not being tied to hitposition of the skin, you can lower hitposition to the very bottom of your screen for FI and gain a lot more room to read.
I dont know whether staff realize that FI doesnt help in reading for 99,9% people even with lanecovers about staff is scared (heh, make FL vision area combo dependent and almost everyone will make lane covers for it) and make FL as a pick in freemod bracket (with score multiplier) that is significantly easier for most people than FI (we have also FL mains) is totally absurd.
Yes, I feel better with FI than with FL because my reading is focused on top of the screen (upscroll) so FL is unplayable for me and putting FI free to pick in nomod bracket is like saying "fu*k you" to those people because they will do better without mods and automatically put them on worse position in freemod bracket.
Atm its totally favourzing players who are more capable with FL, unfortunately.
Yeah, but as long FL+HR is not playable you can always pick HR and win anyways. Yeah, it hits your accuracy but idk.Tidek wrote:
Thats why FL is easier for most people because of stable vision area so you dont need any lanecovers.-Kamikaze- wrote:
You can completely nullify the effect of cover increasing wiith combo and tbh you don't even need a skin for it, you can use your shirt, a piece of paper or whatever, and due to mods not being tied to hitposition of the skin, you can lower hitposition to the very bottom of your screen for FI and gain a lot more room to read.
I dont know whether staff realize that FI doesnt help in reading for 99,9% people even with lanecovers about staff is scared (heh, make FL vision area combo dependent and almost everyone will make lane covers for it) and make FL as a pick in freemod bracket (with score multiplier) that is significantly easier for most people than FI (we have also FL mains) is totally absurd.
Yes, I feel better with FI than with FL because my reading is focused on top of the screen (upscroll) so FL is unplayable for me and putting FI free to pick in nomod bracket is like saying "fu*k you" to those people because they will do better without mods and automatically put them on worse position in freemod bracket.
Atm its totally favourzing players who are more capable with FL, unfortunately.
I just mean that vision mods are not balanced, people who are not able to read FL but can read other vision mods (that is FI) are automatically put in lose position.
Allowing only 1 vision mod because the rest is "broken" doesnt make sense, its fawourizig people who are able to play FL. Allow all vision mods in freemod (except HD) or disallow all of them. We want balanced tournament or not?
Allowing only 1 vision mod because the rest is "broken" doesnt make sense, its fawourizig people who are able to play FL. Allow all vision mods in freemod (except HD) or disallow all of them. We want balanced tournament or not?
Edit: nvm i'm stupid
I'm pretty sure what Loctav said means you can use them in both, the only difference is that HD/FI do not satisfy the requirement of mods used in free mod. That means that you could have a team doing no mod, no mod, HR and satisfy the condition of it because of the HR player, but you can't have a team doing no mod, no mod, HD because HD is not considered eligible for qualifying for FM. One of the players would need to add either HR/FL (obviously will be HR because HD + FL = nope).
Oops you're right o.O nvm thenHalogen- wrote:
I'm pretty sure what Loctav said means you can use them in both, the only difference is that HD/FI do not satisfy the requirement of mods used in free mod. That means that you could have a team doing no mod, no mod, HR and satisfy the condition of it because of the HR player, but you can't have a team doing no mod, no mod, HD because HD is not considered eligible for qualifying for FM. One of the players would need to add either HR/FL (obviously will be HR because HD + FL = nope).
surely you want to take players out of their comfort zone, however, did you know some of the players have been playing HD for many years and they will be forced to switch to nomod just because of the rules of this tournament? They will never compare with hardcore nomod players since they will not have enough time to practice or they do not have enough experience. Also if you think in the opposite way its also true as nomod players will never hit as accurate compared to pro HD players since it is not their best ability to play with such mod. This is why its not fair at all. I believe the better way to do is to release the scoreV2 however give a certain amount of time for players to adjust their skill sets (maybe a few months or even a year) so mostly everyone will be on the same level. Just my opinion.-Kamikaze- wrote:
FI on upscroll does the exact same thing as on downscroll. And why FI? Because FI unlike HD forces you to cut your scroll speed to about 40% just to be able to read it properly. On HD, you're using a scroll speed relatively close to your nomod scroll so it's not that hard to learn it. However FI requires a lot more practice.
Also for the "who even plays FI" question - everyone who has their focus point on the screen (the area where you look at notes) below middle and/or people who play on relatively slow scroll speed. If you have your focus point directly in the middle, FL will be better for you, but if you look lower - FI is the way. I myself prefer FI over FL actually.
Quoted from the announcement:blackout3015 wrote:
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Optionally, everyone can activate Hidden or FadeIn at any map they choose.
I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
was the bolded part really necessarySoul Evans wrote:
I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?Halogen- wrote:
was the bolded part really necessarySoul Evans wrote:
I know not everyone is gonna agree with this but.
I think having scoreV2 in official MWC would be a really fun experience, you know why? because think about the ''challenges'' you are facing as a player that way, getting everyone off their comfort zone, where everyone could have an advantage (or not) on a lot of things, it would be a truly significant experience to people in this MWC. If you're not a wuss about loosing your precious ''prize and profile badge' then this might be the best thing that could come to you as a player, i'm pretty sure winning a tourney when you're that high leveled in skillset you'd be pretty much bored and wouldn't find it
remotely interesting at all. plus on the other hand this could actually furthen the development for our beloved game mode, it would be pretty hilarious seeing one of the top 4k players getting these absurd scores and would be pretty entertaining to watch from viewers perspective aswell imo, so yeah i'm not really doubting the staffs choices on it at all, it's something i'm looking forward to see and remember lmao.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.[/quote]
You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.[/quote]
You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
gah... you didn't quite get the point either.blackout3015 wrote:
Was trying to look at it from a top player's perspective i mean, the whole point of the tourney should be competing and challenging yourself am i wrong?You are completely wrong... Yes i get it for people like you are not predicted to be finalists can say that its not about winning, but did you think about the ones like Halogen- and his other teammates who have already won one championship and due to the change in rules they might not be able to win again. Did you watch the 2015 4k world cup? I mean they definitely deserved it, from the accuracy, the combo and the score, they defeated every single country in this world. They did not just win because they followed the rules or better at manipulating it by finding the best player for certain mods etc. So if you think in their persepctive, every one of them wants to win and its the reason why they took the hassle to sign up and even create a thread like this, you get me? Competitiveness is already real.
And i find it pretty stupid to fear over score v2 because you wouldn't win easily.
The point that I was insinuating off of my post is that I'm actually extremely open to the changes and have no issue dealing with them, regardless of whether or not it affects me or the rest of my team. Remember that I am someone who is an open advocate to score v2, and I am also an advocate that is quite critical and wanting to help in the process by testing, whether that testing involves data or actual play.
But it's not about that: the change in rules is just an additional challenge that I personally appreciate, it's just... not refined. For me, it has nothing to do with winning, and that's why I highlighted the bold part. Winning or losing doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is that everyone has a good time, disagreements with the rules aside. It should be a reasonably level playing field.
This is exactly what this specific mwc needs actually, people like you AJ, but that might not be the case for everyone however i was just pointing out that there can be ~those~ kind of mindset as to why they dislike ScoreV2 being featured in this years tourney.
This tournament should be called "V2 tournament" instead of "world cup", just as the brackets should be called "free-bracket" and "mod-bracket" instead of "NoMod" and "FreeMod", because
- winning a tournament that is about something new/a specific cathegory doesnt make you a "champion" in general
- a bracket where FI/HD are optional isnt NoMod
- a bracket where you're forced to use a mod isn't FreeMod
That shouldn't matter that much since everyone basically knows of ''scoreV2'' and they probably checked the wiki / all teams should've read the rules to understand what's going on.LastExceed wrote:
This tournament should be called "V2 tournament" instead of "world cup", just as the brackets should be called "free-bracket" and "mod-bracket" instead of "NoMod" and "FreeMod", becauseIt's not bad the way it is, the names are just very misleading.
- winning a tournament that is about something new/a specific cathegory doesnt make you a "champion" in general
- a bracket where FI/HD are optional isnt NoMod
- a bracket where you're forced to use a mod isn't FreeMod
Hii, i'm 2k full 4k, can i go for the MWC :3
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
bit late mate. registrations have already closed. and yes, it's one 1 per countryLeHuuks wrote:
Hii, i'm 2k full 4k, can i go for the MWC :3
And btw, only 1 team allowed ?
Oh shit :/ is there any other way to rgister or its closed closed ? 
its closed closed. you're way too late.LeHuuks wrote:
Oh shit :/ is there any other way to rgister or its closed closed ?
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
to be fair, you wouldn't even be in the team anyways-Classy wrote:
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
edit: yea you have a point for the cilent thing on foresight
There was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed-Classy wrote:
Why wasn't there an announcement for signups in the client?
I've seriously been waiting a long time to sign up, only to find they've already closed...
What.
So there is seriously nothing I can do? Im screwed?
-Classy does have a point in here since all other world cups were announced both in the client AND in the news feed.Cryolien wrote:
here was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed
Oh, that's my bad then.whoopsLastExceed wrote:
-Classy does have a point in here since all other world cups were announced both in the client AND in the news feed.Cryolien wrote:
here was an announcement in the news section here since nearly a month ago though. That probably would've sufficed
Topic Starter
Rolling out the first teams to the wiki.
On a side note, I believe score v2 is now available on Stable, too. Keep in mind that if you use Fallback, you won't be able to play.
On a side note, I believe score v2 is now available on Stable, too. Keep in mind that if you use Fallback, you won't be able to play.
I am already shaking
Just asking, did Venezuela qualify to take part in this year's MWC 4k?
You can at least do something decent ^^.juankristal wrote:
I am already shaking
I am just a casual newb passing by.
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
it isn't allowed since few years ago for official tournamentsPiggy wrote:
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
Topic Starter
You can reside wherever you are, what matters alone is your profile flag. However, if your entire team is in Canada and you are in China, I hardly can have the match times align properly for you and the rest of your team, so be aware that I can't take your unusual timezone (relative to your team) into consideration.Piggy wrote:
Is it allowed that I will be in another country when the cup is happening?
commentators are now on the wiki for those interested. i'm sure there'll be a few names there many of you will know
SOFT squad assembled o7
-Kamikaze- wrote:
SOFT squad assembled o7
InBigSister
I think you should contact tournaments@ppy.sh tho it might be a bit late at this moment.InBigSister wrote:
Loctav
Hello
I am from Macao OSU！Mania！ Player.
I world like to ask you about this 4k World Cup.
I have entered the competition.
But why the Players list without me.
My ID is InBigSister
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The wiki is updated now! check it out!
A very minor detail, Chile now uses UTC-4, it changes back to UTC-3 on August, 13th. 
why
Topic Starter
I'll keep that in mind for the future stages!WalterToro wrote:
A very minor detail, Chile now uses UTC-4, it changes back to UTC-3 on August, 13th.
Hello i've got a question and it is how can i enter? Im #5 in spain but im not in but i see a #24 and he is in the team...
You were suppose to go here and register but it ended already if you look at the date for the Registration Phase (28 Jun - 17 Jul 2016) it already ended. Pretty much you're too late.Grek69 wrote:
Hello i've got a question and it is how can i enter? Im #5 in spain but im not in but i see a #24 and he is in the team...
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
If this is going to be SPFT rippoff....... Where are the pink fluffy unicorns?
Is this now good or...?
You need to use at least Stable for the MWC. You cant use fallback.lim38 wrote:
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
I NEVER BREAK MY PROMISESFeerum wrote:
Is this now good or...?
ok
Pretty sure that this is a binding contract by law. Pretty sure.Feerum wrote:
Is this now good or...?
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.juankristal wrote:
You need to use at least Stable for the MWC. You cant use fallback.lim38 wrote:
Can we use the fallback version on the mwc? Does the score couldl be changed if we use this version?
Thats because V2 is not implemented on fallback. So when you have songs that are OD8 or higher the accuracy room is tighter.lim38 wrote:
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.
Yeah I know, but my latency is different between those versions.juankristal wrote:
Thats because V2 is not implemented on fallback. So when you have songs that are OD8 or higher the accuracy room is tighter.lim38 wrote:
Okay thanks, because my accuracy is less good than the Fallback version. Need to play on Stable version to try to fix it.
fuck too late to sign up
dont worry im ok, still in the FFR tourney 
Waiting for Korea vs. USA GF's like
Brain Power isn't original enough.... Try that instead https://osu.ppy.sh/s/435882
I CAN FINALLY SLEEP.
Amazing match between Sweden and Germany, if you have some time watch the VoD.
Amazing match between Sweden and Germany, if you have some time watch the VoD.
Topic Starter
wiki updated, yo!
Quick question, When the support banners will be released?
soonTM.WalterToro wrote:
Quick question, When the support banners will be released?
Likely to be released before this weekend, still not sure the exact moment.
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Profile banners are now up for sale! http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/150
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I already put the mappool on the wiki. Schedule and rest will follow tomorrow!
Todestrieb wrote:
LOL
Come on Team America I believe in you.
I made the Team America 2016 op.
Enjoy.
I made the Team America 2016 op.
Enjoy.
THAT VIDEO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WHAT
Damn XIZ, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE PARODY VIDEOS
Damn XIZ, BACK AT IT AGAIN WITH THE PARODY VIDEOS
Best of luck to all teams in the upcoming round. I won't be there to commentate as I've been in the hospital since Monday. Looking forward to watching live or seeing the vods though!
Regarding the SK vs Japan WBD - Snow Wind apparently couldn't make it due to work (https://twitter.com/HNC_KSnyan/status/766966874345082880) and denkyu is mentioning some typhoon effect (https://twitter.com/denkyu_estlight/status/767044306804678656) but I don't understand it well enough to know, whether he is talking about himself or not.
The typhoon thing aside, I would imagine in case of Snow Wind, he knew about the upcoming work and hence Japan maybe didn't like the time? This is what I found in rules:
Anyways, too bad we missed the highlight of quarterfinals Hopefully Halogen delivers lots of rainbow later today
The typhoon thing aside, I would imagine in case of Snow Wind, he knew about the upcoming work and hence Japan maybe didn't like the time? This is what I found in rules:
In the stages Quarter-finals and higher: Please inform tournament management before Sunday, if you expect a specific time slot to be unavailable in the following week. Wishes are tried to be followed, alas no promises can be made.The way I understand it, teams must inform you before schedule is done by you, so they must preventively declare unwanted time slots. Did Japan screw up by not telling you about Snow Wind's unavailability during this time?
Anyways, too bad we missed the highlight of quarterfinals
Hopefully Halogen delivers lots of rainbow later today
Topic Starter
Wiki updated!
Topic Starter
Wiki updated! (again lol)
Halolgen did put a background in this finals map... Is this the end of the world?!
The end is near...juankristal wrote:
Halolgen did put a background in this finals map... Is this the end of the world?!
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
- Will Ztrot sing Brain Power if another WBD appear?
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
- Will Ztrot sing Brain Power if another WBD appear?
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
SK vs Japan confirmed? It can be, but I would say it is unlikelyVse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
If it wasnt for SK tho, this tourney would be sooo much harder to predict! Taking them down will be a pain for all the teams remaining at this point.
And I WOULD LOVE a tiebreaker in the finals
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
uh dude, did you forgot USA and Brazil ? i know they're not that strong as last year but still...
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
pls no lolololol
Grand finals will be South Korea vs. USA/Brazil/(slight shot: Japan?)
- Hayabusa has been really ruining things for the United Kingdom team with his lack of practice (although, Pipper is doing a hell of a job improving!). Yipyapyop will be a very welcome return, and honestly, Pipper -> Hayabusa sub seems viable for numerous maps given the aforementioned lack. Hayabusa's stronger as a player physically, for sure.
- Japan's roster is not deep, but inteliser is a fucking monster and Snow Wind is also great in his own right. PiraTom adds some depth by having a super-solid LN ability as a third player, but falls a little short on the speed side, making the team vulnerable against super speed picks. The wild-card who wasn't on the team last year, DenkyuSM, could be that bridge that mitigates some of that damage.
- Brazil is downright fucking dangerous, and a likely contender for the third place match against the loser between South Korea and USA. Their team is solid all-around, and their specialization in speed helps them tremendously. They also perform well on LN. Their struggles will be on the accuracy fronts on the speedier stuff, but their ability to combo can circumvent that.
- Hayabusa has been really ruining things for the United Kingdom team with his lack of practice (although, Pipper is doing a hell of a job improving!). Yipyapyop will be a very welcome return, and honestly, Pipper -> Hayabusa sub seems viable for numerous maps given the aforementioned lack. Hayabusa's stronger as a player physically, for sure.
- Japan's roster is not deep, but inteliser is a fucking monster and Snow Wind is also great in his own right. PiraTom adds some depth by having a super-solid LN ability as a third player, but falls a little short on the speed side, making the team vulnerable against super speed picks. The wild-card who wasn't on the team last year, DenkyuSM, could be that bridge that mitigates some of that damage.
- Brazil is downright fucking dangerous, and a likely contender for the third place match against the loser between South Korea and USA. Their team is solid all-around, and their specialization in speed helps them tremendously. They also perform well on LN. Their struggles will be on the accuracy fronts on the speedier stuff, but their ability to combo can circumvent that.
projectc1 wrote:
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
uh dude, did you forgot USA and Brazil ? i know they're not that strong as last year but still...
- Will Loctav stop catching pokemons and being mad if something not goes right?
pls no lolololol
Yeah, I agree that USA and Brazil can impress us in finals. But USA playing vs SK, and Brazil also can play with Japan. So it's like "now or never". But still waiting to see their strength with that damn non humans xD.
France wins the whole tournament as the biggest surprise of the tournament confirmed!bumpinho wrote:
Meanwhile nobody knows anything about France.
I am looking for a cool match/matches from you tho!
juankristal wrote:
Vse_Bude_Dobre wrote:
Main questions of the tournament:
- Asian derby final (Japan vs South Korea) confirmed?
- Tiebreaker Hype in final is real?
- Does any non-Asian country has chance to win this tournament?
SK vs Japan confirmed? It can be, but I would say it is unlikely
If it wasnt for SK tho, this tourney would be sooo much harder to predict! Taking them down will be a pain for all the teams remaining at this point.
And I WOULD LOVE a tiebreaker in the finals
That must be fabulous, maybe one of the most hard predictive final stages!
The memes of this world cup are great.
juankristal wrote:
The memes of this world cup are great.
This picture is amazing
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The wiki has been updated! Grand Finals hype \o/
Yeah hype ...
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
e..his profile had changed in mwc7k 2016...not now..pivco wrote:
Yeah hype ...
I was thinking which team setup had realistic shot at playing close match with SK and this is the conclusion:
Halogen- + SillyFangirl + inteliser
How to call them though? United BraPan?
On the other hand, WindyS seems to have retired according to his profile, so perhaps slight LNs advantage for Brazil?
Grats to south korea, gj to brazil to getting to finals
good stuff all around
good stuff all around