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walaowey

Joined March 2012

walaowey 2016-05-31T16:32:20+00:00

IRC mod

2016-05-31 22:43 KuranteMelodii: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/878022 Mami Kawada - Contrail ~Kiseki~]
2016-05-31 22:43 KuranteMelodii: That beyond the skies diff
2016-05-31 22:43 KuranteMelodii: IDK did i just messed up
2016-05-31 22:43 walaowey: wait lemme check
2016-05-31 22:44 KuranteMelodii: IDK does 01:24:016 (2,3,1) - flows well
2016-05-31 22:45 walaowey: sec
2016-05-31 22:46 walaowey: lemme check wht else does monstrata say xd
2016-05-31 22:46 KuranteMelodii: [https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5182132 just in case you want a shortcut :p]
2016-05-31 22:48 walaowey: gimme some time xD
2016-05-31 22:48 walaowey: i'll tell u when i'm ready
2016-05-31 22:48 KuranteMelodii: lol
2016-05-31 22:48 walaowey: i've got something to do now
2016-05-31 22:48 KuranteMelodii: ok
2016-05-31 23:31 walaowey: alright i'm back
2016-05-31 23:31 walaowey: sorry for the wait
2016-05-31 23:31 walaowey: damn near 1 hour lol
2016-05-31 23:31 KuranteMelodii: I just took a bath
2016-05-31 23:32 walaowey: ohh about flow
2016-05-31 23:32 walaowey: yeah some of them are not that nice to play
2016-05-31 23:32 walaowey: they're like very angle
2016-05-31 23:34 walaowey: 00:07:588 (1,2,3) - flow liek this
2016-05-31 23:34 walaowey: not really nice to play imo
2016-05-31 23:34 walaowey: they're like very straight
2016-05-31 23:34 KuranteMelodii: So do i need to adjust 00:08:302 (3) - to give it a little curve?
2016-05-31 23:35 walaowey: mm
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: sec i'll give suggestion
2016-05-31 23:36 KuranteMelodii: ok done
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: ohh nice
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: move on
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: 00:09:552 (2,3) - 
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: the flow was not that nice too
2016-05-31 23:36 walaowey: its too sharp 
2016-05-31 23:37 KuranteMelodii: Hmmmm... that emphasize 00:09:731 (3) - ?
2016-05-31 23:37 KuranteMelodii: The guitar sound transition is clearer on there
2016-05-31 23:37 walaowey: the emphasize was ok, but the flow was so sharp there imo
2016-05-31 23:37 KuranteMelodii: So where should i put though
2016-05-31 23:38 KuranteMelodii: IDK how to fix it D:
2016-05-31 23:38 walaowey: wait
2016-05-31 23:39 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbCcy/dd2454da10.jpg
2016-05-31 23:39 walaowey: try this
2016-05-31 23:40 walaowey: its just a suggestion xd
2016-05-31 23:40 walaowey: i prefer to have more circle flow, its nicer to play
2016-05-31 23:40 KuranteMelodii: At least better then the current one
2016-05-31 23:40 KuranteMelodii: same
2016-05-31 23:40 KuranteMelodii: Not just i like circle flow
2016-05-31 23:40 KuranteMelodii: I am too weak to create patterns XD
2016-05-31 23:41 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbCiM/41a55b3663.jpg
2016-05-31 23:41 walaowey: the previous looks not that nice for me xd
2016-05-31 23:42 walaowey: 00:13:838 (2,3) -
2016-05-31 23:43 walaowey: this too, the slider (3) was curving at  a different position 
2016-05-31 23:43 walaowey: the flow was kinda cut off there
2016-05-31 23:43 KuranteMelodii: But if i curve 3 in the other way
2016-05-31 23:43 KuranteMelodii: then the flow will be bad on 4
2016-05-31 23:44 walaowey: mm, let me think 
2016-05-31 23:45 walaowey: 00:14:552 (5,1) - 
2016-05-31 23:45 walaowey: and since this part the flows was not that nice, u can try to shift 4 of them to adjust the flow
2016-05-31 23:48 KuranteMelodii: [http://puu.sh/pbCEX/545a22218a.jpg ok i remapped the entire pattern, hope this is readable]
2016-05-31 23:48 walaowey: 00:34:909 - until  00:40:445- 
2016-05-31 23:49 walaowey: this part the flow was quite nice
2016-05-31 23:49 walaowey: yeah the one u show me was ok xD
2016-05-31 23:49 KuranteMelodii: The power of modding~
2016-05-31 23:49 walaowey: LOL
2016-05-31 23:50 walaowey: 00:19:195 (1,2,3) - i dun really like this flow too, the flow is weird imo
2016-05-31 23:50 walaowey: well, its still acceptable though
2016-05-31 23:51 KuranteMelodii: not sure about this one though
2016-05-31 23:51 walaowey: it should be ok 
2016-05-31 23:52 KuranteMelodii: Well, let's see does monstrata also don't think this kind of flow is acceptable
2016-05-31 23:52 walaowey: 00:44:731 (1) - i think this should have more spacing lol
2016-05-31 23:52 walaowey: the beat is stronger here
2016-05-31 23:53 KuranteMelodii: Well, since monstrata also mentioned this so fixed
2016-05-31 23:53 walaowey: ok
2016-05-31 23:54 walaowey: 00:52:409 (2,3) - i personally dont like this pattern tbh
2016-05-31 23:54 KuranteMelodii: This part is fine for me...
2016-05-31 23:54 walaowey: and the flow for (3,4,1) is kinda sharp there
2016-05-31 23:55 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/pbD92/4528fa6515.jpg ?
2016-05-31 23:55 walaowey: 01:06:159 (1,2,3) - this flow was not that nice too :P
2016-05-31 23:57 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbDfW/9cfcec524a.jpg
2016-05-31 23:57 walaowey: try something like this?
2016-05-31 23:57 KuranteMelodii: This was mentioned so many times
2016-05-31 23:57 KuranteMelodii: Not i am lost of how do it fix
2016-05-31 23:57 walaowey: yeah that flow was weird imo
2016-05-31 23:57 KuranteMelodii: fixed that pattern though
2016-05-31 23:58 walaowey: ok
2016-05-31 23:59 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbDoD/9a32b9abbe.jpg
2016-05-31 23:59 walaowey: well flow from 1->2 is fine, but 2->3 was not that nice imo
2016-06-01 00:01 KuranteMelodii: [http://puu.sh/pbDs7/9181629929.jpg & then i did this lol]
2016-06-01 00:01 walaowey: that part is still sharp there
2016-06-01 00:01 walaowey: well i'll suggest it my idea, lets see
2016-06-01 00:02 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbDz3/3bca7cd4a0.jpg
2016-06-01 00:02 walaowey: and this way from 4->1 will have bigger spacing
2016-06-01 00:03 walaowey: since (1) has strong beat too
2016-06-01 00:03 walaowey: 01:14:195 (4,5,1) - same like the previous one i've told u about
2016-06-01 00:03 walaowey: the flow feels sharp to me
2016-06-01 00:04 KuranteMelodii: Yeah since i have a concept of trying to emphasize the claps with jumps
2016-06-01 00:04 KuranteMelodii: I put 5 under those sliders
2016-06-01 00:05 walaowey: mmm
2016-06-01 00:06 KuranteMelodii: Wait
2016-06-01 00:06 walaowey: which slidert u mean?
2016-06-01 00:06 KuranteMelodii: Let me update so i can let you see does the current pattern also flows bad
2016-06-01 00:07 KuranteMelodii: Ok update plz
2016-06-01 00:07 walaowey: ok
2016-06-01 00:07 KuranteMelodii: I remapped the pattern on 01:15:088 - but it still feel bad for me
2016-06-01 00:09 walaowey: mmm
2016-06-01 00:09 walaowey: wait
2016-06-01 00:10 walaowey: 01:15:623 (5,6,7,8) - tbh
2016-06-01 00:10 walaowey: i dont really liek the flow here
2016-06-01 00:10 walaowey: its messy
2016-06-01 00:11 walaowey: its nice until 6, then from 7 u make a reverse hee
2016-06-01 00:11 walaowey: here*
2016-06-01 00:11 walaowey: it feels weird
2016-06-01 00:12 KuranteMelodii: idk what should i do there
2016-06-01 00:12 walaowey: wait i'll make suggestion, see if you'll have some idea after that
2016-06-01 00:13 walaowey: i stack 7 on 2 and 8 on 3
2016-06-01 00:14 KuranteMelodii: What about 4 though
2016-06-01 00:14 KuranteMelodii: I also feel weird on 4
2016-06-01 00:14 walaowey: 01:16:338 (1) - and then i rotate about -35 degree
2016-06-01 00:14 walaowey: for better flow from 8->1
2016-06-01 00:15 walaowey: yeah the overlap on 4 make it looks weird
2016-06-01 00:15 KuranteMelodii: Playfield center?
2016-06-01 00:15 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbElc/82b0d2ac58.jpg
2016-06-01 00:15 KuranteMelodii: Then should i move 4 between 1 and 6?
2016-06-01 00:16 walaowey: try 300|273
2016-06-01 00:17 walaowey: yeah move it between 1 and 6
2016-06-01 00:17 KuranteMelodii: k
2016-06-01 00:18 walaowey: 01:18:123 (2,3,4) - err i still got triggered by this flow :P
2016-06-01 00:19 walaowey: well nvm, see what other will says about this
2016-06-01 00:19 walaowey: 01:23:481 (1,2) - about this u ask earlier, the flow is find here for me
2016-06-01 00:20 KuranteMelodii: But then what about 01:24:552 (3,1) - ?
2016-06-01 00:21 walaowey: yeah its fine from 3->1 
2016-06-01 00:21 walaowey: but
2016-06-01 00:21 walaowey: the flow after that was a bit weird
2016-06-01 00:21 KuranteMelodii: The sprial pattern?
2016-06-01 00:22 walaowey: http://puu.sh/pbEMd/617b74f234.jpg
2016-06-01 00:22 walaowey: well its just my opinion though
2016-06-01 00:22 walaowey: i think it should be ok, since its NC
2016-06-01 00:22 KuranteMelodii: Maybe i should flip it horizonally
2016-06-01 00:23 walaowey: well its kinda same if u flip it
2016-06-01 00:23 walaowey: i think just leave it be now
2016-06-01 00:23 KuranteMelodii: If you say so, then i keep this atm
2016-06-01 00:23 KuranteMelodii: I think it looks better without flipping
2016-06-01 00:23 walaowey: oh wait
2016-06-01 00:24 walaowey: ok nvm if u want to keep it
2016-06-01 00:24 KuranteMelodii: ok then i'll update this then
2016-06-01 00:25 walaowey: waitt
2016-06-01 00:25 walaowey: i forget to say smth
2016-06-01 00:25 KuranteMelodii: Lol sure, i can update one more time :p
2016-06-01 00:25 walaowey: 00:44:195 (4) - fix the overlap
2016-06-01 00:25 walaowey: although not that noticable xD
2016-06-01 00:25 walaowey: but fix it just in case
2016-06-01 00:26 KuranteMelodii: hmmmm this one is intentional
2016-06-01 00:26 KuranteMelodii: Maybe put a little bit down
2016-06-01 00:26 walaowey: oh ok then
2016-06-01 00:26 walaowey: wait 
2016-06-01 00:26 walaowey: i think i notice 1 sacking proble
2016-06-01 00:26 walaowey: stacking*
2016-06-01 00:27 KuranteMelodii: go on
2016-06-01 00:27 walaowey: 00:58:123 (2) -
2016-06-01 00:28 KuranteMelodii: fixed though, even it's not pretty noticeable
2016-06-01 00:28 walaowey: yeah not really noticable
2016-06-01 00:28 walaowey: since its quite late after that
2016-06-01 00:28 walaowey: well guess thats all from me
2016-06-01 00:28 KuranteMelodii: ok
2016-06-01 00:28 walaowey: GL ranking it xD
2016-06-01 00:28 KuranteMelodii: Post on thread plz :p
2016-06-01 00:29 walaowey: sure xd

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-05-31T16:34:10+00:00

Now waiting for Ky's reply

Bizarre, now i feel that all of my flowing issues are gone

Edit: all fixed on ky's diffs, now finding rechecks

RE-edit: I do got a mod from ky, but seems he refused to post the log and get kds so i guess i'll post it there

23:07 Kyle Y: hi
23:07 KuranteMelodii: hi
23:07 Kyle Y: I will write a modding for you later
23:07 Kyle Y: for this
23:07 *Kyle Y is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/878022 Mami Kawada - Contrail ~Kiseki~ [Beyond the Skies]]
23:07 KuranteMelodii: ok
23:09 KuranteMelodii: We're close to rank :D
23:11 Kyle Y: 感覺玩上去應該不太順手
23:11 Kyle Y: 我先去洗澡....工作了整天很熱
23:12 Kyle Y: [http://puu.sh/pcPa4/44a7dac000.rar here is updates]
23:17 KuranteMelodii: DId you forget to change the timing on adv
23:17 KuranteMelodii: or should i change them for you since it's so simple to fix
23:18 KuranteMelodii: Also, feel free to play beyond the skies with CS 4
23:18 KuranteMelodii: Since i change it to CS 4.5 for spread
23:24 Kyle Y: you fix the timing and other setting problem for me please
23:26 KuranteMelodii: done
23:34 Kyle Y: um.... you care about ranking.. or quality?
23:34 KuranteMelodii: both
23:34 KuranteMelodii: You need quality to give it to rank tbh
23:35 Kyle Y: um...
23:35 Kyle Y: quality higher than ranking, or just for rank
23:36 KuranteMelodii: I just to have a ranked map tbh
23:36 KuranteMelodii: The community think people without a ranked map have no experiance nowadays
23:42 Kyle Y: I think you set CS 4 will be better
23:42 KuranteMelodii: Ok then... i actually want to give free pp (getting slapped)
23:43 Kyle Y: 00:51:159 (2) - this slider seems not following everything
23:44 KuranteMelodii: So then a 1/2 and a circle?
23:45 Kyle Y: circle first, I think better
23:46 KuranteMelodii: k
23:46 Kyle Y: 01:01:695 (1) - this slider also. I think delete it will be better
23:47 KuranteMelodii: This map the violin at the background
23:47 Kyle Y: becasue you use beat mapping mainly, therefore mapping vocal for once or twice will be weird
23:48 KuranteMelodii: I actually uses custom rhythm
23:49 KuranteMelodii: So in this case i created this kind of rhythm by my feeling
23:49 KuranteMelodii: same goes to Prima Stella
23:49 Kyle Y: Prima stella? what's that??>
23:49 *KuranteMelodii is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/967401 Kano - Prima Stella]
23:50 KuranteMelodii: I remembered that i shown you before
23:50 Kyle Y: yup.... I do not remember all song's name
23:50 KuranteMelodii: lol
23:50 Kyle Y: um.... I still think beat mapping should not map here for feeling
23:51 KuranteMelodii: I still think it still work...
23:52 KuranteMelodii: And notice those 3/4 slider does not have any sound support on the downbeat
23:55 Kyle Y: it work... but just for felling
23:58 Kyle Y: 01:07:409 (4,1) -  I think here can break flowing a little bit, for emphasis the strong beat
23:58 Kyle Y: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5290338
23:58 Kyle Y: for example this
23:59 KuranteMelodii:  k
23:59 KuranteMelodii: I am a noob at mapping
00:04 Kyle Y: 01:14:552 (5,1) -  add a jump
00:04 KuranteMelodii: I can but then i can't emphasize the clap it have on 5
00:05 KuranteMelodii: So i guess it can give more priority to emphasize 5
00:14 Kyle Y: 00:27:588 (1) - del nc
00:14 Kyle Y: 00:33:838 (2) - unstack?
00:14 KuranteMelodii: Passed, This passed though downbeat, so nc is better
00:15 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/pcSKx/dab30f890f.jpg ?
00:16 Kyle Y: seems better
00:16 Kyle Y: becasue stacking like 1/4 snapped
00:16 Kyle Y: 00:47:588 (4,1) - why jumpiing?
00:17 KuranteMelodii: Adjust a tiny bit
00:18 KuranteMelodii: http://puu.sh/pcSSV/f4c232aa48.jpg
00:26 Kyle Y: other is fine
00:26 KuranteMelodii: OK then should i update?
00:27 Kyle Y: you can
00:30 KuranteMelodii: done
00:33 KuranteMelodii: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl8UlQ1dAQY
00:34 KuranteMelodii: Also, post in thread so i can give kd

Winnie

1,343 posts

Joined November 2013

Winnie 2016-06-07T19:31:09+00:00

Ayyyyy Lmao Just wanted to push this forward with some fixes

[Beyond the Skies]

00:02:409 (2,2) - Only my opinion but these notes early on add a bit of pace to the song that you don't need. Sure there is sounds backing up the note but considering the song is at it's slower states I don't think it's really necessary to have them
00:08:123 (2,3,4,5) - Again only my opinion but this pattern here is kind of bland, it doesn't really do anything and somewhat looks like a half ass square
00:09:016 (6,7,1) - Spacing here if off, it's too close especially since a NC is going to be hit, it transitions from 1.6-1.9 then all the way down to 1.1 at a NC which is kind of weird to play 2.1 or 2.3 should be your ideal spacing
00:22:766 (2,3,4) - These could all be the same spacing, feels pretty nice that way since I don't how if there is really much emphasis to map this part besides that one sound in the BG I don't find is good enough
00:23:481 (1) - Also the start of the slider, anchors are very strange even this would've been nicer http://puu.sh/pkkav/ae600e2d72.jpg Since you don't have to move so much for a slider and it's straight forward
00:24:909 (1,1) - NC is very strange here, you are NCing the vocals and I find that to be strange but to me what needed to be change was 00:24:909 (1) - back to the previous one and then this section would be better since the other slider has a sound in it that can be utilized which is fine by me
00:38:838 (4) - This seems like a random slider, it doesn't seem like it does anything, would've been nicer if it had some curves since it's just out there with no purpose since flow 00:38:838 (4,1) - is a lot more weird to play then you expect
00:52:231 (1) - You can give this a little bit more spacing maybe 1.4-1.5 would actually play better
00:56:159 (1) - This could've been a symmetrical slider but I guess this is okay if you want to keep it
01:02:052 (1,4,1) - I see what you're doing but to me it just plays weird. It's either that or make this 01:03:123 (5) - consistent spacing with 01:02:588 (3) - so it plays better
01:09:373 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Damn that is a lot of singles
01:14:731 (1) - This needs more spacing, it's too close for a kiai and plus these 01:14:552 (5,1) - have vocal emphasis that can be backed up with extra spacing
01:19:016 (6,1) - This is as same as above, you can emphasize this part and make (1) a little further
01:24:552 (3) - This was just like the same slider above, it just feels out of the open and seems so weird to play and hit, like look at this pattern http://puu.sh/pkkUV/a70e4e41f0.jpg Could've been something different
01:24:909 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Only my opinion but you didn't need to NC this whole part but it works so I guess it's fine
Not the greatest of insane imo, spacing was rather awkward to play. The most awkward spacing in this map was a slider-note-slider. You make the note-slider too close which restricts movement when hitting jumps and move onto new patterns. 00:12:409 (2,3) - 00:15:266 (2,3) - The rest were just sliders and star pattern spam but I guess it's ok

[Ky's Hard]

First and foremost don't extend sliders like this 00:01:159 (2,2,2,2) - It's really bad and destroys the rhythm the song had, It all perfectly ended on proper snaps but you extended them and made different rhythm which is awkward to hear and play
00:07:052 (4,5) - Ctrl+G is better here, the sounds play better this way
00:10:088 (3) - Definitely better note as an extended slider
00:10:445 (1,2,5,6) - That's a lot of overlaps, quite unsightly
00:12:052 (1,2,3) - Hmm that's weird how come this spacing isn't as even using 1.2 as the next set of notes does after this?
00:12:588 (4) - Proper flow would've been at x:436 y:44 since it's more rotational rather than linear
00:19:195 (1) - It plays strangely here because of how the slider is placed. There are two options that can work for you if you decide to use it. http://puu.sh/pklMD/36f8400bcb.jpg Add a little extra spacing or just making the slider more like this http://puu.sh/pklPk/f83ac6c2ae.jpg
00:20:266 (5,1,1,2,1,2,1) - This is too clustered. Even I got confused looking at this so it will definitely be hard for the learning players to play it. Especially if they will add mods like hidden. Sliders are better here but if you don't please flip 00:21:159 (1,1) - switching patterns over and over really messes up players
What I mean by that is literally just use Ctrl+G
00:24:909 (2) - I don't preferably like this overlap
00:27:588 (2) - Or this, and the slider is nice and all but just weird
00:36:338 (1,2,3) - Flow is awkward to play
00:39:552 (2,3,4) - What's with the random change man, you're doing too much
00:52:231 - Should've used a triple to emphasize with the song
01:00:534 - Triple please, this stands out wayyy too much, Hitting singles but you hear a triple in the BG that distracts you
00:59:373 (2,3,1,2) - Again some sliders would be nice
01:01:159 (5) - You started your slider too early and sounds weird, it should be the next tick over (red)
01:05:267 (2,3,4) - This sounds very bad, just a random triple in there that has nothing to back it up with, literally you can copy paste like 01:05:981 (4,1) -
Hmm I wouldn't say this is a great hard imo. The sliders are extended too much that really kills the element of a solid map. Then you have singles in place of the build up instead of sliders which can throw even the best of players off.

[Ky's Advanced]

00:02:766 (6,3,4) - All the sliders that make rhythm awkward in this part
00:20:623 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jesus
00:31:873 (1) - Damn looks really strange to me stacked maybe it's because you didn't add a note here 00:31:695 -
00:34:552 (7) - Rhythm here is messed up, starting from here it should be http://puu.sh/pknLe/cd099a284e.jpg Especially if you want it to be ideal to your previous rhythm
00:35:802 (4,5) - Slider is better here than 2 random stacked notes
00:51:338 (5,6) - Can space the same with (4) since stacking is strange especially with the amount of time the the signature looks like
00:59:373 (1,2,3,1) - Holy shit you did it

[Normal]

00:07:588 (3) - You're extending your sliders too much
00:10:445 (3) - NC would've been cool here, but with what's already implemented all of it would've look like a clusterfuck if that was NC
00:11:873 (1) - Ended on a downbeat, not the best ideal here
00:17:766 (1,2) - No please Ctrl+G right now
00:22:766 (5) - No extended sliders please, either this http://puu.sh/pkmNA/751d249707.jpg or http://puu.sh/pkmOX/d781de74cb.jpg
00:30:981 - Could've had a note here and here 00:33:838 -
00:42:409 (5,5) - There we go
00:48:481 (4,1) - This is wrong rhythm you implemented, since that downbeat needs to be utilized, look at this clearly http://puu.sh/pkn2I/efb0191fe3.jpg
01:09:909 (5,1) - Make spacing here consistent with previous ones
01:11:695 - Such a strong beat here why note make 01:11:338 (2) - into a slider
01:17:231 (2) - usually with this time of area in the song, you can make a repeat slider and remove this otherwise it's kinda choppy. 01:16:338 (1) - repeat slider here. Here just try this rhythm starting at (1)

As of now if I was BN I wouldn't push this, I'd get 2 more decent mods to check up on different elements of the map besides my own implementations I suggested. If you can do that and I read the mods to be half decent then you can ask to move this forward, but that's just my opinion. I would like to see 2 more modders do this after me and I'll check up on what they wrote to see things they said were good fixes for you. other than that GL. Soon this will be ranked, Soon (P.S. - I'm sad there is no easy diff

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-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-08T07:12:51+00:00

Kocari wrote:
Ayyyyy Lmao Just wanted to push this forward with some fixes

[Beyond the Skies]
00:02:409 (2,2) - Only my opinion but these notes early on add a bit of pace to the song that you don't need. Sure there is sounds backing up the note but considering the song is at it's slower states I don't think it's really necessary to have them So that means they don't need to emphasized then? I fixed it though, i think this also give more consistency on what i did on 00:01:159 (2) - and 00:05:266 (2,3) -
00:08:123 (2,3,4,5) - Again only my opinion but this pattern here is kind of bland, it doesn't really do anything and somewhat looks like a half ass square The intention is make those stronger guitar notes clickable, The shape is fine too, imo
00:09:016 (6,7,1) - Spacing here if off, it's too close especially since a NC is going to be hit, it transitions from 1.6-1.9 then all the way down to 1.1 at a NC which is kind of weird to play 2.1 or 2.3 should be your ideal spacing OH GOD YOU'RE RIGHT, i didn't notice this on mapping
00:22:766 (2,3,4) - These could all be the same spacing, feels pretty nice that way since I don't how if there is really much emphasis to map this part besides that one sound in the BG I don't find is good enough Fine imo, the kick slider's head and those 2 notes looks kinda same distance for me, not too hard to catch on
00:23:481 (1) - Also the start of the slider, anchors are very strange even this would've been nicer http://puu.sh/pkkav/ae600e2d72.jpg Since you don't have to move so much for a slider and it's straight forward No, this is intentional
00:24:909 (1,1) - NC is very strange here, you are NCing the vocals and I find that to be strange but to me what needed to be change was 00:24:909 (1) - back to the previous one and then this section would be better since the other slider has a sound in it that can be utilized which is fine by me I didn't NCing for vocals though, What i did there is to make consistancy by NCing those downbeats
00:38:838 (4) - This seems like a random slider, it doesn't seem like it does anything, would've been nicer if it had some curves since it's just out there with no purpose since flow 00:38:838 (4,1) - is a lot more weird to play then you expect Again, fine imo there, i don't wanna force my slider to curve there, It's pretty easy to catch up 00:39:195 (1) - with dropout flow, too
00:52:231 (1) - You can give this a little bit more spacing maybe 1.4-1.5 would actually play better maybe...
00:56:159 (1) - This could've been a symmetrical slider but I guess this is okay if you want to keep it So... no changes :3
01:02:052 (1,4,1) - I see what you're doing but to me it just plays weird. It's either that or make this 01:03:123 (5) - consistent spacing with 01:02:588 (3) - so it plays better Accepted, but the flow is questionable
01:09:373 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Damn that is a lot of singles lol this is what i wanted to be there,Originally 01:10:445 (1) - Is a 1/1 slider but then there's a mod complained there's a sound supported on 01:10:623 (2) - downbeat so i desired to use 3 circles instead in order to support both
01:14:731 (1) - This needs more spacing, it's too close for a kiai and plus these 01:14:552 (5,1) - have vocal emphasis that can be backed up with extra spacing What i did there is to give priority to drum emphasis, i guess it doesn't play well
01:19:016 (6,1) - This is as same as above, you can emphasize this part and make (1) a little further Adjust a bit, making it too far will damage the playability
01:24:552 (3) - This was just like the same slider above, it just feels out of the open and seems so weird to play and hit, like look at this pattern http://puu.sh/pkkUV/a70e4e41f0.jpg Could've been something different Attempted to fix, i guess this is the closest for me
01:24:909 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Only my opinion but you didn't need to NC this whole part but it works so I guess it's fine So no fix, the purpose is to indicate them more like a 1/1 and yet also removes the following point.
Not the greatest of insane imo, spacing was rather awkward to play. The most awkward spacing in this map was a slider-note-slider. You make the note-slider too close which restricts movement when hitting jumps and move onto new patterns. 00:12:409 (2,3) - 00:15:266 (2,3) - The rest were just sliders and star pattern spam but I guess it's ok Those close spacing is intentional, this give priority for those drums to be emphasized, And i don't find any major playability problems on my hands even i tried to "flow" and "snap" those notes either

[Normal]
00:07:588 (3) - You're extending your sliders too much ~~ok dad~~
00:10:445 (3) - NC would've been cool here, but with what's already implemented all of it would've look like a clusterfuck if that was NC For consistency of NC per 2 downbeats
00:11:873 (1) - Ended on a downbeat, not the best ideal here k
00:17:766 (1,2) - No please Ctrl+G right now no maybe
00:22:766 (5) - No extended sliders please, either this http://puu.sh/pkmNA/751d249707.jpg or http://puu.sh/pkmOX/d781de74cb.jpg No sir, 3 of them were acceptable but i wanted to let the rhythm simple as possible so i'll keep this
00:30:981 - Could've had a note here and here 00:33:838 - k
00:42:409 (5,5) - There we go
00:48:481 (4,1) - This is wrong rhythm you implemented, since that downbeat needs to be utilized, look at this clearly http://puu.sh/pkn2I/efb0191fe3.jpg But the vocal starts on the red tick, i guess both are okay then
01:09:909 (5,1) - Make spacing here consistent with previous ones k
01:11:695 - Such a strong beat here why note make 01:11:338 (2) - into a slider Fixed in my way
01:17:231 (2) - usually with this time of area in the song, you can make a repeat slider and remove this otherwise it's kinda choppy. 01:16:338 (1) - repeat slider here. Here just try this rhythm starting at (1) no, feels better currently

As of now if I was BN I wouldn't push this, I'd get 2 more decent mods to check up on different elements of the map besides my own implementations I suggested. If you can do that and I read the mods to be half decent then you can ask to move this forward, but that's just my opinion. I would like to see 2 more modders do this after me and I'll check up on what they wrote to see things they said were good fixes for you. other than that GL. Soon this will be ranked, Soon (P.S. - I'm sad there is no easy diff )

thanks for the mod

-Atri-

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Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-09T09:33:50+00:00

Time to graveyard

I am tired, really, give me a break

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2016-06-10T03:25:46+00:00

Missing video on Ky's Hard.

That's all.

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-10T05:54:25+00:00

Let's wait for Kyle's response

Also i gonna disagree Kocari's point about ky's hard，the extended slider were supposed to emphasize the holding sounds, not to hard to play, too

EDIT: I updated ky's hard with video, I do some chat with kyle and he said that he only changed one on his hard, but it never said what did he change on both, nor giving me the update version of his diff, I guess i'll consider that he have no changes with kocari's mod.

Will update once again if he give the updates on ky's diff, or if this map bubbled, i'll update within next bn's mod

Kyle Y

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Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2016-06-12T17:12:12+00:00

Kocari wrote:
Ayyyyy Lmao Just wanted to push this forward with some fixes

[Ky's Hard]
First and foremost don't extend sliders like this 00:01:159 (2,2,2,2) - It's really bad and destroys the rhythm the song had, It all perfectly ended on proper snaps but you extended them and made different rhythm which is awkward to hear and play remain, for the whole map, it is mainly based on vocal mapping, with mapping transition. here is one of the examples.
00:07:052 (4,5) - Ctrl+G is better here, the sounds play better this way remain, again this is vocal-mapping, therefore I make clickable item at 00:07:231 - .
00:10:088 (3) - Definitely better note as an extended slider remain, it is not that feeling if notes placed here.
00:10:445 (1,2,5,6) - That's a lot of overlaps, quite unsightly remain, stacking don't mean unreadable.
00:12:052 (1,2,3) - Hmm that's weird how come this spacing isn't as even using 1.2 as the next set of notes does after this? fixed
00:12:588 (4) - Proper flow would've been at x:436 y:44 since it's more rotational rather than linear remain, I think flowing is okay here.
00:19:195 (1) - It plays strangely here because of how the slider is placed. There are two options that can work for you if you decide to use it. http://puu.sh/pklMD/36f8400bcb.jpg Add a little extra spacing or just making the slider more like this http://puu.sh/pklPk/f83ac6c2ae.jpg
remain, I think there is no problem here, it is new part of music, a little bit flow-breaking is okay to do that.
00:20:266 (5,1,1,2,1,2,1) - This is too clustered. Even I got confused looking at this so it will definitely be hard for the learning players to play it. Especially if they will add mods like hidden. Sliders are better here but if you don't please flip 00:21:159 (1,1) - switching patterns over and over really messes up players
What I mean by that is literally just use Ctrl+G
00:24:909 (2) - I don't preferably like this overlap remain, this is common overlapping.
00:27:588 (2) - Or this, and the slider is nice and all but just weird I have no other solution atm.
00:36:338 (1,2,3) - Flow is awkward to play it is drop-off flowing.
00:39:552 (2,3,4) - What's with the random change man, you're doing too much remain, I think it is okay as snapping is changed.
00:52:231 - Should've used a triple to emphasize with the song rejected. as mentioned, I am mapping on vocal, triple added will destroy the strong vocal sound at 00:52:409 -
01:00:534 - Triple please, this stands out wayyy too much, Hitting singles but you hear a triple in the BG that distracts you fixed
00:59:373 (2,3,1,2) - Again some sliders would be nice remain again.
01:01:159 (5) - You started your slider too early and sounds weird, it should be the next tick over (red) remain. slider start based on beat at 01:01:159 - . and 01:01:338 - is too weak that weird to have a clickable object.
01:05:267 (2,3,4) - This sounds very bad, just a random triple in there that has nothing to back it up with, literally you can copy paste like 01:05:981 (4,1) - mapped based on music transition.

Hmm I wouldn't say this is a great hard imo. never mind, just becasue different mapping style.The sliders are extended too much that really kills the element of a solid map. This song is relax and cute, if I mapped too soild, with 1/2 snapped, then it will become boring.Then you have singles in place of the build up instead of sliders which can throw even the best of players off. at least I am not going to do so, just map MY VERSION.

[Ky's Advanced]
00:02:766 (6,3,4) - All the sliders that make rhythm awkward in this part same rhythm with Hard diff
00:20:623 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Jesus
00:31:873 (1) - Damn looks really strange to me stacked maybe it's because you didn't add a note here 00:31:695 -
00:34:552 (7) - Rhythm here is messed up, starting from here it should be http://puu.sh/pknLe/cd099a284e.jpg Especially if you want it to be ideal to your previous rhythm
00:35:802 (4,5) - Slider is better here than 2 random stacked notes
00:51:338 (5,6) - Can space the same with (4) since stacking is strange especially with the amount of time the the signature looks like
00:59:373 (1,2,3,1) - Holy shit you did it

As of now if I was BN I wouldn't push this, I'd get 2 more decent mods to check up on different elements of the map besides my own implementations I suggested. If you can do that and I read the mods to be half decent then you can ask to move this forward, but that's just my opinion. I would like to see 2 more modders do this after me and I'll check up on what they wrote to see things they said were good fixes for you. other than that GL. Soon this will be ranked, Soon (P.S. - I'm sad there is no easy diff )

update: (Hard)

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-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-15T06:36:35+00:00

updated for now

-Atri-

3,047 posts

Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-19T15:08:26+00:00

Remapped ky's Normal

Damn, why you remap when i almost can tell bn to check it D:

-NanoRIPE-

2,021 posts

Joined October 2013

-NanoRIPE- 2016-06-25T11:17:19+00:00

Hi ~ Kurante :>
i came here just give some suggestion about this map :3

[Normal]
00:18:481 (3) - i think curve slider is better imo ~
00:29:016 (1) - move to (92,184) for better flow
00:42:588 (6) - decrease the curve *try to make the curve similiar like 00:41:873 (4)
01:06:159 (3) - curve slider is better imo ~

[Ky's Normal]
00:04:016 (2,3) - too close :3
00:34:552 (7,1) - remove these and add 1/2 slider then 1/1 slider *emphatize with the downbeat at 00:34:909
00:45:445 (6) - ctrl j would be better imo
01:00:981 (2) - remove the reverse slider

[Ky's Hard]
00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern really confused and too hard to read it ~ how about this 00:22:231 (1,2)

[Beyond the skies]
00:01:873 (1) - make the slider straight please *honestly i dont like slider with same shape as previous slider,its make the flow are bad :<
00:10:088 (4) - straight slider *same as 00:09:731 (3) for consistensy
00:18:302 (4) - same as above ~ the flow are bad (maybe ctrl j for better)
00:41:516 (5,1) - overlap
01:03:838 (3,4) - remove these and add 1/2 slider instead *emphatize vocal
01:09:552 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmmm maybe remove some and add slider instead? (its looks incosistent if only add circles imo~ )

GL ~ and sorry for my terrible english ~ i hope u understand what i said ~

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-25T13:43:40+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
Hi ~ Kurante :>
i came here just give some suggestion about this map :3

[Normal]
00:18:481 (3) - i think curve slider is better imo ~ But i think both will work...
00:29:016 (1) - move to (92,184) for better flow Adjusted, but not your suggestion
00:42:588 (6) - decrease the curve *try to make the curve similiar like 00:41:873 (4) Hmmmmmm.... nope, prefers mine
01:06:159 (3) - curve slider is better imo ~ No need to force it to curve here, i think as long the flow is okay i think it will be fine...

[Beyond the skies]
00:01:873 (1) - make the slider straight please *honestly i dont like slider with same shape as previous slider,its make the flow are bad :< Currently it's okay
00:10:088 (4) - straight slider *same as 00:09:731 (3) for consistensy ... Nope, intentional
00:18:302 (4) - same as above ~ the flow are bad (maybe ctrl j for better) But then the flow get worse later on
00:41:516 (5,1) - overlap ......Nope, common overlap
01:03:838 (3,4) - remove these and add 1/2 slider instead *emphatize vocal Hmmmm... the map is drum based, not planning to emphasize vocals
01:09:552 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hmmm maybe remove some and add slider instead? (its looks incosistent if only add circles imo~ ) Same reason above here, as long the drum rhythm is still there i think it's fine

GL ~ and sorry for my terrible english ~ i hope u understand what i said ~

Cheers for mod, although i rejected most, i do know that you have put some efforts on modding

Kyle Y

1,204 posts

Joined November 2013

Kyle Y 2016-06-27T18:47:27+00:00

-NanoRIPE- wrote:
Hi ~ Kurante :>
i came here just give some suggestion about this map :3

[Ky's Normal]
00:04:016 (2,3) - too close :3 fixed for ds problem.
00:34:552 (7,1) - remove these and add 1/2 slider then 1/1 slider *emphatize with the downbeat at 00:34:909 fixed
00:45:445 (6) - ctrl j would be better imo fixed
01:00:981 (2) - remove the reverse slider remain, as there is ending sound at 01:01:338 - .

[Ky's Hard]
00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern really confused and too hard to read it ~ how about this 00:22:231 (1,2) will stacking help?

GL ~ and sorry for my terrible english ~ i hope u understand what i said ~

K's N

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256,192,84998,12,0,87766,0:0:0:0:

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-06-28T13:13:18+00:00

うｐだて

-Nya-

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Joined December 2011

-Nya- 2016-07-07T15:59:15+00:00

Hey~ You posted in my queue quite a while ago.

General:

You wrote “four rhythm” in the tags two times. Remove one of them.
Usually the surname of the japanese name has to be first, so in this case it should actually be “Kawada Mami”. I know there are recent ranked maps with “Mami Kawada” but then there are also recent ranked maps with “Kawada Mami”, so I advise doublechecking this with a metadata expert.
Add this soft-sliderslide soundfile into the folder: http://puu.sh/pTsPH/e8fc2ac2ab.wav

Beyond the Skies:

I guess you can lift the stack leniency to at least 0.3 to be safe. This is just a recommendation.
00:04:016 (2,1) –Rather create a blanket here. While playing this also felt uncomfortable for me.
Picture
You can increase the distance in the top pic.
00:00:624 (1,2,1,3) – etc. (The heads of the sliders) I suggest adding a kind of hitsound here to emphasize those sounds. I think a soft-hitwhistle will be nice (the default one)
00:06:873 (3,4) –This flow can be improved. Try something like this instead:
Picture
They can also be straight sliders. Just avoid 00:07:231 (4) – (the head) being lower than 00:06:873 (3) –
00:07:588 (1) –Not really a fan of this since the slider is overlapping itself making it look untidy. Maybe:
Picture
The pic looks meh, I know, but try something where the borders are visible. The ranking criteria also advises that the slider borders have to be visible for a nice comfortable sliderpath to follow.
00:10:088 (4) –Also make this a straight slider to support 00:09:731 (3) – or (3) can be a curved slider like (4). Just for parallel and neatness reasons, make their shapes similar.
00:10:088 (4,2) –Rather stack (2) on the tail of (4) for neatness reasons. The overlap should rather be avoided.
00:12:588 (3,4) –Decrease this spacing. I suggest making the spacing similar to 00:12:409 (2,3) – The reason is because there’s nothing to support the jump there and then the jump here: 00:13:123 (5) – will be emphasized more. Take note: If you follow this suggestion, just make sure the jump here 00:13:123 (5) – isn’t too big.
00:12:052 (1,2,1,2) –These two jumps (the 2) is following the same clap sound but the first jump (2) is bigger than the second jump. Always try to keep similar jumps’ spacings consistent for tidyness and an overall well structured map. Take note: There may be more similar cases like this.
00:14:373 (4) –This is the kind of spacing I was talking about here: 00:12:588 (3,4) –
00:15:981 (5) –Please lower this slider to avoid the overlap with 00:14:909 (1) –
00:16:338 (1,2) –Please watch out for this: This jump (at the (2)) is much larger than the previous jumps’ at the same beat.
00:17:231 (4,5) –For consistency with the previous jumps at this beat with the slider, you’ll have to make this spacing bigger.
00:22:588 (1) –Remove the NC here and add NC here: 00:22:766 (2) – since the strong sound is on the (2).
00:27:588 (1) –The overlapping tail is bothering me a lot >.< Uncurl the tail to show the border:
Picture
00:30:266 (6) –I would place this circle on 00:29:552 (2) – to emphasize that clap more by making the spacing larger. Take note: If you follow this, remember to then increase this spacing.
00:45:445 (3) –Instead of stacking, rather make the spacing here bigger to emphasize that vocal more. Right now the jump is smaller than the jump here: 00:44:731 (1,2) –
00:45:445 (3,4) –Check this spacing again. It’s not similar to 00:34:016 (3,4) -. Try to keep the spacing of similar patterns like this similar.
00:45:266 (2,6) –Avoid the overlap.
00:52:409 (2) –This slider looks like the old mapping style Rather change it.
00:53:838 (2,3) –Same as 00:45:445 (3,4) –
00:55:445 (4,5) -^, etc.
00:56:695 (2) –Increase this slider’s spacing to emphasize the clap.
01:01:338 –I think it would be a good idea to place a note here to support that important vocal.
01:02:052 (1,4) –This plays a bit weird since both these sliders flow the same way. Try changing (4) so it isn’t placed in the same line as (1). So Ctrl+H or something.
01:07:409 (4) –For better flow, rather Ctrl+G this slider and change its shape. Like this:
Picture
01:10:623 (2) –I would place this (2) somewhere else and not stack it because it has a different sound. So to emphasize it more.
01:14:731 (1) –Increase the jump for more emphasism on the vocal on the head.

Ky’s Hard:

Why not “Kyle’s Hard/Kyle’s Normal”? Makes more sense, lol.
Also check out my hitsound advice that I gave for the “Beyond the Skies” diff.
00:05:623 (2,1) –Stack properly for neatness reasons.
00:06:338 (1) –Lower this slider’s tail a bit so the flow to 00:06:695 (2) – is better.
00:13:481 (1) –Lift this slider upwards a bit to about: X:88 Y:80 for better flow from 00:13:123 (5) –
00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) –Keep these spacings similar. I apologise if they are. Also, I’m a teeny bit worried these spacings may be too big for a Hard diff.
00:36:873 (2) –Ctrl+G this slider for better flow.
00:47:588 (1,2) –I don’t really like this overlap. Perhaps you can create a blanket by making 00:48:123 (2) – a curved slider.
00:48:481 (3,4) – Not the best flow. Something like this will work better:
Picture
00:50:445 (6) –This jump feels very unnecessary since there’s nothing in the music to support the jump. It will make more sense if a jump is here: 00:50:266 (5) – since there’s a clap that can be emphasized.
01:01:159 (6) –Place a NC here to show that there’s a SV change.

Ky’s Normal:

There are duplicated green lines in this diff that must be removed: 01:01:159 (two at the same spot)
Uncheck widescreen support.
00:02:766 (4) –It would have been better if this slider started here: 00:02:588 – instead since that long beat starts on the red tick, so something like this instead:
Picture
00:05:623 (4) -^

I don’t really see any problems with the flow or patterns, but some of the objects that are almost touching looks a bit “meh”. To be honest, because of the BPM that’s high, I would rather lower the distance spacing so the objects are overlapping. Would look neater imo.

Normal:

The one thing that I don’t understand is why you wouldn’t rather map an Easy diff. The Normal from Kyle already qualifies as a fine Normal, so an Easy would thus be needed for a great spread. I suggest nuking the many ½ rhythms and making this diff easier so it qualifies as an Easy. I guess if you don’t want to do this, you can always keep this as a Normal and just rename “Ky’s Normal” to “Ky’s Advanced”. Having two diffs named Normal is just weird.

Overall:

I feel more mods are needed to improve the hardest diff. Taking my mod into consideration for the other diffs, will make them fine.

Good Luck~!
If you have any questions, catch me in-game.

-Atri-

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Joined March 2013

Topic Starter

-Atri- 2016-07-08T06:36:46+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hey~ You posted in my queue quite a while ago.

General:
You wrote “four rhythm” in the tags two times. Remove one of them. ~~One of them were from the official romanization of title and the official English title, so i guess i'll keep it as it is~~ Discussed with various people, i desired to remove it
Usually the surname of the japanese name has to be first, so in this case it should actually be “Kawada Mami”. I know there are recent ranked maps with “Mami Kawada” but then there are also recent ranked maps with “Kawada Mami”, so I advise doublechecking this with a metadata expert. Even it's true, i DO have a metadata source that said "Mami Kawada" Instead

http://aokana-anime.com/products/cd/199/

EDIT: but i am not still sure which one is correct, Following the RC nor using the original metadata source, If i remember correctly, StarR's mapset even asked KwaN for metadata check so i guess it's fine of it, waiting further discussion

http://puu.sh/pULh8/0a2d5ff0aa.png
Add this soft-sliderslide soundfile into the folder: http://puu.sh/pTsPH/e8fc2ac2ab.wav k

Beyond the Skies:
I guess you can lift the stack leniency to at least 0.3 to be safe. This is just a recommendation. Hmmmm... Not pretty much complains about that... I'll keep it...
00:04:016 (2,1) –Rather create a blanket here. While playing this also felt uncomfortable for me. k
Picture
You can increase the distance in the top pic.
00:00:624 (1,2,1,3) – etc. (The heads of the sliders) I suggest adding a kind of hitsound here to emphasize those sounds. I think a soft-hitwhistle will be nice (the default one) I guess i'll keep this... It's weaker then 00:06:338 - , Which only have soft whistle per 2 white ticks, so i'll leave the first part unhitsounded to give the level of energy on the song
00:06:873 (3,4) –This flow can be improved. Try something like this instead:
Picture
They can also be straight sliders. Just avoid 00:07:231 (4) – (the head) being lower than 00:06:873 (3) – Well... i'll keep it, i kinda like this flow here.
00:07:588 (1) –Not really a fan of this since the slider is overlapping itself making it look untidy. Maybe:
Picture
The pic looks meh, I know, but try something where the borders are visible. The ranking criteria also advises that the slider borders have to be visible for a nice comfortable sliderpath to follow. Attempted to fix, But i ended up making the slider too ugly there, so i'll keep it unless someone also complain here
00:10:088 (4) –Also make this a straight slider to support 00:09:731 (3) – or (3) can be a curved slider like (4). Just for parallel and neatness reasons, make their shapes similar. No..... I don't wanna force them to become straight or curve, That will look weird for me...
00:10:088 (4,2) –Rather stack (2) on the tail of (4) for neatness reasons. The overlap should rather be avoided. They aren't really visible in-game, I am fine with the overlap, too.
00:12:588 (3,4) –Decrease this spacing. I suggest making the spacing similar to 00:12:409 (2,3) – The reason is because there’s nothing to support the jump there and then the jump here: 00:13:123 (5) – will be emphasized more. Take note: If you follow this suggestion, just make sure the jump here 00:13:123 (5) – isn’t too big. I guess the distance between a un-emphasized and the emphasized jump is clear enough here, so it won't make a big problem here, the flow would be questionable if i force 00:12:945 (4) - to reduce spacing, too.
00:12:052 (1,2,1,2) –These two jumps (the 2) is following the same clap sound but the first jump (2) is bigger than the second jump. Always try to keep similar jumps’ spacings consistent for tidyness and an overall well structured map. Take note: There may be more similar cases like this. Same from above
00:14:373 (4) –This is the kind of spacing I was talking about here: 00:12:588 (3,4) –
00:15:981 (5) –Please lower this slider to avoid the overlap with 00:14:909 (1) – .....No fix
00:16:338 (1,2) –Please watch out for this: This jump (at the (2)) is much larger than the previous jumps’ at the same beat. Remapped
00:17:231 (4,5) –For consistency with the previous jumps at this beat with the slider, you’ll have to make this spacing bigger. ^
00:22:588 (1) –Remove the NC here and add NC here: 00:22:766 (2) – since the strong sound is on the (2). But it splits the violin parts perfectly, and the follow points will look ugly if i remove NC there
00:27:588 (1) –The overlapping tail is bothering me a lot >.< Uncurl the tail to show the border:
Picture
.....Nope, i like it.
00:30:266 (6) –I would place this circle on 00:29:552 (2) – to emphasize that clap more by making the spacing larger. Take note: If you follow this, remember to then increase this spacing. It will look very weird both visually and flow... Also, this note isn't pretty strong compared to the claps that i emphasized, so i don't think making a jump is necessary here.
00:45:445 (3) –Instead of stacking, rather make the spacing here bigger to emphasize that vocal more. Right now the jump is smaller than the jump here: 00:44:731 (1,2) – Nah i am not emphasizing the vocals here, the map itself is mostly beat/drum mapping
00:45:445 (3,4) –Check this spacing again. It’s not similar to 00:34:016 (3,4) -. Try to keep the spacing of similar patterns like this similar. k
00:45:266 (2,6) –Avoid the overlap. Fixed this one, though
00:52:409 (2) –This slider looks like the old mapping style Rather change it. I am fine about this, i wanted it to blanket 00:51:695 (1) -
00:53:838 (2,3) –Same as 00:45:445 (3,4) – k
00:55:445 (4,5) -^, etc. ^
00:56:695 (2) –Increase this slider’s spacing to emphasize the clap. k
01:01:338 –I think it would be a good idea to place a note here to support that important vocal. .......Nope
01:02:052 (1,4) –This plays a bit weird since both these sliders flow the same way. Try changing (4) so it isn’t placed in the same line as (1). So Ctrl+H or something. Nah as it follows the flow on the previous objects perfectly
01:07:409 (4) –For better flow, rather Ctrl+G this slider and change its shape. Like this:
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I am intended to, the purpose is to emphasize 01:07:766 (1) - better, and since i don't wanna force it to make a jump, i used the flow separating method instead
01:10:623 (2) –I would place this (2) somewhere else and not stack it because it has a different sound. So to emphasize it more. ...Nope, want to keep my concept simple there
01:14:731 (1) –Increase the jump for more emphasism on the vocal on the head. Again, this is a Drum/beat mapping so i am not gonna emphasize the vocals there

Normal:
The one thing that I don’t understand is why you wouldn’t rather map an Easy diff. The Normal from Kyle already qualifies as a fine Normal, so an Easy would thus be needed for a great spread. I suggest nuking the many ½ rhythms and making this diff easier so it qualifies as an Easy. I guess if you don’t want to do this, you can always keep this as a Normal and just rename “Ky’s Normal” to “Ky’s Advanced”. Having two diffs named Normal is just weird. Well, It originally an Easy diff, i discussed with Kyle before i started this mapset and plan to make an "E-N-H-I" spread, But later on, Kyle made his normal diff too hard, so i desired to named it "Ky's Advanced" instead, and i added some 1/2 rhythm to fit the spread of his

After few months later, Kyle desired to remap his Advanced diff, but he later on he finally maps a fine normal diff, since his rhythm is same as the Advanced diff , i desired to keep the normal diff as it is, oh well, i am asking kyle for this one

Overall:

I feel more mods are needed to improve the hardest diff. Taking my mod into consideration for the other diffs, will make them fine. Honestly i rather keep it as it is, Not because i am too lazy to find mods, This map is focused on playability rather then how fit it does to the song, And i rather keep my concept simple, Which completely defined in my reply of my mods

Good Luck~!
If you have any questions, catch me in-game.

Cheers for the mod :p

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-07-08T17:30:17+00:00

Maybe I should remove my diffs and leave it for rank

-Nya-

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-Nya- 2016-07-08T22:21:27+00:00

KuranteMelodii wrote:
Maybe I should remove my diffs and leave it for rank

No, don't give up. I saw that there are BN's that are interested in this. I hope my mod didn't discourage you >.<

Kyle Y

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Kyle Y 2016-07-09T13:45:30+00:00

-Nya- wrote:
Hey~ You posted in my queue quite a while ago.

General:
You wrote “four rhythm” in the tags two times. Remove one of them.
Usually the surname of the japanese name has to be first, so in this case it should actually be “Kawada Mami”. I know there are recent ranked maps with “Mami Kawada” but then there are also recent ranked maps with “Kawada Mami”, so I advise doublechecking this with a metadata expert.
Add this soft-sliderslide soundfile into the folder: http://puu.sh/pTsPH/e8fc2ac2ab.wav

Ky’s Hard:
Why not “Kyle’s Hard/Kyle’s Normal”? Makes more sense, lol.
two reasons:
I did found someone called Kyls's ___ already, and I don't want to repeat it.
And, I used Ky's _____ before until now, check: https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist?q=%22ky%27s%22
Also check out my hitsound advice that I gave for the “Beyond the Skies” diff.
00:05:623 (2,1) –Stack properly for neatness reasons. increased ds
00:06:338 (1) –Lower this slider’s tail a bit so the flow to 00:06:695 (2) – is better. fixed
00:13:481 (1) –Lift this slider upwards a bit to about: X:88 Y:80 for better flow from 00:13:123 (5) – remain, I want a little flow-breaking here.
00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) –Keep these spacings similar. I apologise if they are. Also, I’m a teeny bit worried these spacings may be too big for a Hard diff. fixed, and I think ds here is still reasonable.
00:36:873 (2) –Ctrl+G this slider for better flow. remain, ctrl+g want break the flowing to (3)
00:47:588 (1,2) –I don’t really like this overlap. Perhaps you can create a blanket by making 00:48:123 (2) – a curved slider. fixed
00:48:481 (3,4) – Not the best flow. Something like this will work better: fixed
Picture
00:50:445 (6) –This jump feels very unnecessary since there’s nothing in the music to support the jump. It will make more sense if a jump is here: 00:50:266 (5) – since there’s a clap that can be emphasized. fixed
01:01:159 (6) –Place a NC here to show that there’s a SV change.
fixed

Ky’s Normal:
There are duplicated green lines in this diff that must be removed: 01:01:159 (two at the same spot) fixed
Uncheck widescreen support.fixed
00:02:766 (4) –It would have been better if this slider started here: 00:02:588 – instead since that long beat starts on the red tick, so something like this instead:
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00:05:623 (4) -^
I think both are okay here, like what I did in Hard diff.
I don’t really see any problems with the flow or patterns, but some of the objects that are almost touching looks a bit “meh”. To be honest, because of the BPM that’s high, I would rather lower the distance spacing so the objects are overlapping. Would look neater imo.

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-07-09T17:05:44+00:00

Update

Sooooo.. A-L-I-E-N is trying to get it ranked... wow, just,wow, I mean, Judging how immature this community is, they even rank a "purposely messy" map as long the mapper is popular and no one gives a shit about it

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2016-07-27T16:16:21+00:00

Ze mods by ze Meep

Beyond the skies
00:31:873 (1) - This slider is bent very weirdly，把他的curve做好一点 https://gyazo.com/2b5e86ec831078e5ee99a98ec22b0a19
00:44:731 (1) - 把这个做成https://gyazo.com/c0fff9a9f8978e8035b26e0ef44be2d2
01:13:481 - Make another kiai time here?(applies for all modes)

Sorry not much,ur mapping 2gud

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-07-27T16:30:25+00:00

_Meep_ wrote:
Ze mods by ze Meep
Beyond the skies
00:31:873 (1) - This slider is bent very weirdly，把他的curve做好一点 https://gyazo.com/2b5e86ec831078e5ee99a98ec22b0a19 K
00:44:731 (1) - 把这个做成https://gyazo.com/c0fff9a9f8978e8035b26e0ef44be2d2 不明白
01:13:481 - Make another kiai time here?(applies for all modes) 不分開都沒問題
Sorry not much,ur mapping 2gud

Thanks for sudden mod

Will update when after monstrata rechecks

nvm mind i update sin

_Meep_

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_Meep_ 2016-07-27T16:42:02+00:00

00:44:731 (1) - 把这个做成https://gyazo.com/c0fff9a9f8978e8035b26e0ef44be2d2 不明白 <-- Because there is a bit of a higher curve at the start of ths slider,you can ignore this if you want to

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2016-08-26T06:52:52+00:00

Fixed an offscreen slider.

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-26T06:53:57+00:00

First bubbled map

Thanks monstrata~

To next BN:

00:16:695 (2,3) - Distance is too close D:

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Underforest

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Underforest 2016-08-26T07:04:20+00:00

HYPE :O

-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2016-08-26T12:12:17+00:00

Underforest wrote:
HYPE :O

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-26T12:14:34+00:00

Underforest wrote:
HYPE :O

Kyle Y

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Kyle Y 2016-08-26T17:04:36+00:00

Bubble good~~
Congrat
You can have first ranked map soon~~~

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2016-08-26T18:54:39+00:00

As I saw this in #modreqs I got curious, so I gave it a look

Underforest wrote:
HYPE :O

Sorry, but I'm here for the opposite reason (and I'm not doing this on bad intentions, please don't misunderstand)

Generally speaking, I find various flaws in this mapset which need to be fixed in order to take the mapset to a qualifiable quality from my point of view.

Beyond the Skies

00:06:338 - The hitsounds before this point are awkwardly loud and unfitting for the song's atmosphere. Using the default soft sampleset is way better. While this is not totally objective, I highly recommend changing it. (at least remove them from slider ends since that's the most awkward part)

00:09:552 (2,3) - weak jump here, since you're literally enforcing a jump on a weak beat. The fact that the slider shape is also the opposite direction of the jump makes the whole passage even less strong.
Same happened at 00:06:695 (2,3) - btw. Following the guitar is not the best option here, since it's not the main instrument that creates the rhythm

00:09:731 (3,4) - general aesthetics stuff, but why are they different here? Whether they follow guitar, drum or idk what sound they sound the same in the music to me

00:12:052 (1,2,3,4,5) - let's take this as an example, but it repeats various times in the map.
This whole combo has a random spacing (literally. Try selecting each one of these objects and tell me how many times you can see the same spacing, or even close values, being the same between them) and a general structure seems to be missing here. With structure I mean any sort of relation of the pattern with the song/theme/bg/previous patterns that you may come up with. In this case, there is none I could find unfortunately
00:16:338 (1,2,3,4,5) - same goes for this one

00:13:481 (1,2,3,4,5) - ok, you have this pattern that has a decent structure on its own, but when compared to the patterns around it I can see there aren't many relations

00:22:588 (1,2,3,4) - I'd say there is a random jump you could have avoided here because 00:23:123 (4) - has no particular emphasis from the song, so keep DS constant

00:34:909 (1,2,3) -
I will try to explain why this sort of movements feel weak using a bit of geometry:
the green line is the perpendicular line of the first jump. This line is used as the "ground", the "point 0" from where you must consider the next jump.
the blue lines are highlighting a cone in which every next jump will steal all the emphasis from (2), making (2) feel weaker to the player.
This is basically how every jump works: if (3) is inside the blue cone, it will have more emphasis. If 3 is outside of the blue cone, but still beyond the green line, both notes will have a similar emphasis and therefore they will feel almost the same. If 3 is before the green line, all the emphasis will go on 2.

Now, why am I pointing this out? That's because you simply used a bigger jump on (2) since it was on a white tick (hence, stronger beat), yet you placed the next object in the blue cone, so all the emphasis goes on it.
What is even worse is that the next object is also a slider, and sliders have a higher emphasis on their head due to their nature.
In the end you have both direction and type of objects going against a natural rhythm, and this happens a lot in your map here.
As a test, try moving 3 at least on the green line and you'll notice the difference already, even if the type of the object is still wrong. Also, check out this suggestion, in the hope I could get my message through

00:38:302 (3,4) - same concept here, just different angle. The jump on 4 is unnatural and therefore feels forced (also take the whole combo 00:37:766 (1,2,3,4) - and try to analize their meaning. In other words, the reason they are where they are)

00:39:731 (3,4) - same ^

00:40:981 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this is instead a good example of how things should be done. It works perfectly and it has a sweet circular flow, since you also take advantage of the slider leniency from 00:40:445 (1) -

00:44:731 (1,3) - then again, random shapes. While it ""may"" work for parts like 00:46:338 (1,2) - or 00:49:195 (1,2) - due to the pseudo-blankets, here it has no particular meaning to be like that

00:45:445 (3,4,5) - refer again to my screen and you'll notice how emphasis goes to the wrong beat once again. Also, the 3/4 slider is not a good choice here at all. 1) Because there is no beat at all in the music there. 2) Because it is altering the emphasis on the objects nearby it in a bad way.
If you just remove the beat and make a 1/1 slider instead you'll notice the difference

00:49:195 (1,2) - not so flowy, considering you have to go in a certain direction, then stop midway and go back. Once you go back you once again have to go the opposite way since the second slider was in the same direction as the first one. Holy, that's stressing and it feels unnatural in gameplay, unless the music requires (and here it doesn't)

00:52:409 (2) - your mania for blankets brings you on the verge of strange shapes overall. Ok, that's personal, I know, but use a general concept for all your sliders and not just random waypoints to place a blanket wherever you want. That's not so good to see, you know

00:52:409 (2,3) - again, another 3/4 slider ending on a non-existing beat in the music. It is fine to use this sliders, don't misunderstand me, but if the song calls for it, not if you call for it
00:55:445 (4,5) - same

00:57:052 (3,4,5,6) - these notes are almost identical to 00:56:695 (2) - in rhythm (on vocals)? Yet they are placed as something is changing in the music (different angles mean different rhythms, at least among a single pattern). Just a suggestion

01:00:623 (3,4,5,6) - I wanted to just point out little things that make up for a good and nice appealing map: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5942082
(I took 3 and 5 and copied them, then rotated. That's basically the dark blue combo)

01:03:123 (5,1) - what I pointed out in my screen above also applies to jump with sliders. Instead of having the (3) as a circle we consider the slider body as the direction of an hypothetical circle. That's why jumps and sliders with opposite directions feel weaker than normal and most of the times they don't fit if the song doesn't call for them

01:03:302 (1,2) - these 3/4 sliders are everywhere for no reason...
Above all when I go ahead of 2 seconds in the map and I find 01:06:159 (1,3) - which doesn't have that sort of thing, yet you use 3/4 sliders sometimes and sometimes you don't (even tho it's the same sort of vocal/rhythm/pattern)

01:07:409 (4) - minor, but this was calling for a couple of circles instead hearing the vocals

01:09:373 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - "spot the difference" I'd say, but the game would end soon enough since there are no differences. Sorry for the my sharp tounge here, but it's true there is no difference between all these notes. Spacing is almost identical, yet the song has some variations. Not expressing those variations makes the map plain, without any real "feedback" for the player"

01:13:123 (4) - minor, the blanket on the tail is not really visible like this (and I would also use circles instead)

01:14:195 (4,5,1) - compare the jump between these 3 and tell me where the map's emphasis goes. Then try to listen to the song and find where the song's emphasis is. Does the map's emphasis matches the song's emphasis?
The real jump should fall on 01:14:731 (1) - due to vocals accentuation, yet your pattern offers a bigger jump on 01:14:552 (5) -

01:20:623 (1,2,3) - sudden low spacing, out of nowhere. Patterns before and after this part have a totally different spacing, therefore this part is inconsistent with the rest and it is noticeable in gameplay. A lot.

01:24:909 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - probably personal, but this spam of NCs is not needed, but idk...

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Ky's Hard

00:07:052 (4,5) - I see both of you using the guitar's rhythm here but it feels way too off.

00:10:088 (3) - I bet you can silence this x) Unless there is a beat there I can't hear

00:11:695 (6,1) - this time is not really suited at all here, since there's no beat at 00:11:963 - at all

00:11:695 (6,4) - a bit of an avoidable overlap

00:12:231 (2) - not necessary clap

00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - either stack them all or either make all of them like 00:20:802 (2,1) - . Consistency matters

00:22:677 (4) - why making things more complex with this triplet? YOu're focusing the player's attention on the violins (or whatever instrument is the high pitched one), yet you add a bit of drum beats out of nowhere. Rhythm and spacing is not so intuitive, or rather, fitting for this diff

00:29:016 (1,2) - again with the 3/4 sliders. Above all with that strong hitsounding. There is no beat at 00:29:284 -

00:29:909 (4) - minor, but what about stacking it on 00:30:088 (5) - ? The flow is not that great

00:30:088 (5,1) - there are many of these, and I don't intend to point them out one by one since on this diff there shouldn't be any

00:39:552 (2,3) - where do you get that rhythm from?

00:47:588 (1) - strong beat that gets weakened by the opposite directions of jump and slider body. Check the diff above ^ and in particular my screen to know the reasons I say this

01:16:873 (2,3) - finish goes on the slider

01:24:998 (1) - does the spinner needs such a strong hitsound ?

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Ky's Normal

00:09:731 (2) - don't ignore the strong beat on the white tick please

01:00:981 (2) - the last beat is not needed, since there is none in the song (switching to vocals is not an option since those 2 rhythms don't have a merging point)

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Light Normal

is the name a meme or... ?

00:23:481 (1) - mentioned on the other diff too, but give a meaning to a slider shape to be like that, not "just because you wanted it to be like that"

overall this diff looks cramped. The problem is that basic SV and general DS are too low

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General

How did you even achieve this o.O? I honestly have no clue what that problem is

Seriously, this map is no near ready to qualification status, sorry.
I'll keep monitoring this mapset. Contact me (or any other BN) for any questions regarding anything

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-27T02:00:56+00:00

Wow, what a long mod, but it's still 10:00 am here, i am still sleepy, give me few hours

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-27T05:46:42+00:00

12:52

MrSergio wrote:
Beyond the Skies

00:06:338 - The hitsounds before this point are awkwardly loud and unfitting for the song's atmosphere. Using the default soft sampleset is way better. While this is not totally objective, I highly recommend changing it. (at least remove them from slider ends since that's the most awkward part) ok

00:09:552 (2,3) - weak jump here, since you're literally enforcing a jump on a weak beat. The fact that the slider shape is also the opposite direction of the jump makes the whole passage even less strong.
Same happened at 00:06:695 (2,3) - btw. Following the guitar is not the best option here, since it's not the main instrument that creates the rhythm
First of all, I am not sure which kind of guitar is not the best option here, There's 3 different guitar sounds in this part:
1. The bass guitar that plays every red tick
2. The quiet guitar that begins from the beginning of the song
3. The louder guitar that i also follows
Secondly, It's true that there's a jump on a weak beat, but i am going to emphasize the higher pitch guitar sound, not the beat, there's another guitar note at 00:06:873 (3) - , which deems a louder guitar sounds for me, so i desired to emphasize the guitar sound but putting a jump there, not on a previous note.

But i adjust the latter pattern for consistency

00:09:731 (3,4) - general aesthetics stuff, but why are they different here? Whether they follow guitar, drum or idk what sound they sound the same in the music to me
I guess i fixed that above

00:12:052 (1,2,3,4,5) - let's take this as an example, but it repeats various times in the map.
This whole combo has a random spacing (literally. Try selecting each one of these objects and tell me how many times you can see the same spacing, or even close values, being the same between them) and a general structure seems to be missing here. With structure I mean any sort of relation of the pattern with the song/theme/bg/previous patterns that you may come up with. In this case, there is none I could find unfortunately
00:16:338 (1,2,3,4,5) - same goes for this one For this map, i wanted to emphasize every single claps by putting a tiny jump here, even the song is kinda calm, the claps is the most outstanding in this part, so it's safe to have them emphasized, yes, kinda weird in structure, but not without a reason

00:13:481 (1,2,3,4,5) - ok, you have this pattern that has a decent structure on its own, but when compared to the patterns around it I can see there aren't many relations But the clap jumps does well, doesn't it?

00:22:588 (1,2,3,4) - I'd say there is a random jump you could have avoided here because 00:23:123 (4) - has no particular emphasis from the song, so keep DS constant Although the jump is to emphasize the finish here, but ok...

00:34:909 (1,2,3) -
I will try to explain why this sort of movements feel weak using a bit of geometry:
the green line is the perpendicular line of the first jump. This line is used as the "ground", the "point 0" from where you must consider the next jump.
the blue lines are highlighting a cone in which every next jump will steal all the emphasis from (2), making (2) feel weaker to the player.
This is basically how every jump works: if (3) is inside the blue cone, it will have more emphasis. If 3 is outside of the blue cone, but still beyond the green line, both notes will have a similar emphasis and therefore they will feel almost the same. If 3 is before the green line, all the emphasis will go on 2.

Now, why am I pointing this out? That's because you simply used a bigger jump on (2) since it was on a white tick (hence, stronger beat), yet you placed the next object in the blue cone, so all the emphasis goes on it.
What is even worse is that the next object is also a slider, and sliders have a higher emphasis on their head due to their nature.
In the end you have both direction and type of objects going against a natural rhythm, and this happens a lot in your map here.
As a test, try moving 3 at least on the green line and you'll notice the difference already, even if the type of the object is still wrong. Also, check out this suggestion, in the hope I could get my message through I don't like to do that complicated, but meh

00:38:302 (3,4) - same concept here, just different angle. The jump on 4 is unnatural and therefore feels forced (also take the whole combo 00:37:766 (1,2,3,4) - and try to analize their meaning. In other words, the reason they are where they are) ....ok?

00:39:731 (3,4) - same ^ ^

00:40:981 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - this is instead a good example of how things should be done. It works perfectly and it has a sweet circular flow, since you also take advantage of the slider leniency from 00:40:445 (1) -

00:44:731 (1,3) - then again, random shapes. While it ""may"" work for parts like 00:46:338 (1,2) - or 00:49:195 (1,2) - due to the pseudo-blankets, here it has no particular meaning to be like that I keep this though, although the shape is kinda weird, but map itself is meant to be snapped, not flowed, and the notes were locked each other, there's not pretty much method to fix that if that's true

00:45:445 (3,4,5) - refer again to my screen and you'll notice how emphasis goes to the wrong beat once again. Also, the 3/4 slider is not a good choice here at all. 1) Because there is no beat at all in the music there. 2) Because it is altering the emphasis on the objects nearby it in a bad way.
If you just remove the beat and make a 1/1 slider instead you'll notice the difference Fixed the jumps though, but i use 3/4 because i think it could emphasize the difference on 00:45:445 (3) - , Which have no flute(?) sound and 00:45:802 (4,5,6) - does

00:49:195 (1,2) - not so flowy, considering you have to go in a certain direction, then stop midway and go back. Once you go back you once again have to go the opposite way since the second slider was in the same direction as the first one. Holy, that's stressing and it feels unnatural in gameplay, unless the music requires (and here it doesn't) Keep this though, I like it. I really love anti flow....

00:52:409 (2) - your mania for blankets brings you on the verge of strange shapes overall. Ok, that's personal, I know, but use a general concept for all your sliders and not just random waypoints to place a blanket wherever you want. That's not so good to see, you know Again, keep, I am not gonna map for aesthetics

00:52:409 (2,3) - again, another 3/4 slider ending on a non-existing beat in the music. It is fine to use this sliders, don't misunderstand me, but if the song calls for it, not if you call for it To emphasize the vocal at 00:52:766 (3) - there, and this slider's purpose is to emphasize the vocal hold at 00:52:409 (2) -
00:55:445 (4,5) - same same

00:57:052 (3,4,5,6) - these notes are almost identical to 00:56:695 (2) - in rhythm (on vocals)? Yet they are placed as something is changing in the music (different angles mean different rhythms, at least among a single pattern). Just a suggestion For me, they look like they're same pattern, and your suggestion is have too large jump on 00:57:588 (6,1) -

01:00:623 (3,4,5,6) - I wanted to just point out little things that make up for a good and nice appealing map: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5942082
(I took 3 and 5 and copied them, then rotated. That's basically the dark blue combo) Maybe it's just personal preference i guess, keep.

01:03:123 (5,1) - what I pointed out in my screen above also applies to jump with sliders. Instead of having the (3) as a circle we consider the slider body as the direction of an hypothetical circle. That's why jumps and sliders with opposite directions feel weaker than normal and most of the times they don't fit if the song doesn't call for them But it cut the flow perfectly..... I guess both works well as starting a new line of vocals

01:03:302 (1,2) - these 3/4 sliders are everywhere for no reason...
Above all when I go ahead of 2 seconds in the map and I find 01:06:159 (1,3) - which doesn't have that sort of thing, yet you use 3/4 sliders sometimes and sometimes you don't (even tho it's the same sort of vocal/rhythm/pattern) Fixed this one though

01:07:409 (4) - minor, but this was calling for a couple of circles instead hearing the vocals Changed into 2 notes

01:09:373 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - "spot the difference" I'd say, but the game would end soon enough since there are no differences. Sorry for the my sharp tounge here, but it's true there is no difference between all these notes. Spacing is almost identical, yet the song has some variations. Not expressing those variations makes the map plain, without any real "feedback" for the player" But they have the equal strength on all the notes, Yet I am not going to make my map too complicated , A patterns that plays well and not too uncomfortable, that's what i need, and i never planned to express those variation in a tiny part, never.

01:13:123 (4) - minor, the blanket on the tail is not really visible like this (and I would also use circles instead) ok

01:14:195 (4,5,1) - compare the jump between these 3 and tell me where the map's emphasis goes. Then try to listen to the song and find where the song's emphasis is. Does the map's emphasis matches the song's emphasis?
The real jump should fall on 01:14:731 (1) - due to vocals accentuation, yet your pattern offers a bigger jump on 01:14:552 (5) - ~~That's what i wanted to do there, I wanted to emphasize the claps like before, not the vocals~~ After further discussion, fixed

01:20:623 (1,2,3) - sudden low spacing, out of nowhere. Patterns before and after this part have a totally different spacing, therefore this part is inconsistent with the rest and it is noticeable in gameplay. A lot. ok

01:24:909 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - probably personal, but this spam of NCs is not needed, but idk... Keep

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General

How did you even achieve this o.O? I honestly have no clue what that problem is removed

Seriously, this map is no near ready to qualification status, sorry. Yeah, let's wait for 2078, And my Prima Stella is 1 million times better then this shitty tobitateba map and it also need to wait for another 62 years to get ranked, so stay tuned
I'll keep monitoring this mapset. Contact me (or any other BN) for any questions regarding anything

I am gonna remap my lowest diff back to Easy

Woah, it's 1:52 now??? :O

Last edited by -Atri- 2016-08-27T06:42:02+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Kyle Y

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Kyle Y 2016-08-27T06:22:18+00:00

MrSergio wrote:
As I saw this in #modreqs I got curious, so I gave it a look

Ky's Hard

00:07:052 (4,5) - I see both of you using the guitar's rhythm here but it feels way too off. remain here, I think it is not weird at all as it is the ending sound for the guitar with a beat sound, therefore it is reasonable to have a slider.

00:10:088 (3) - I bet you can silence this x) Unless there is a beat there I can't hear fix for silent slider.

00:11:695 (6,1) - this time is not really suited at all here, since there's no beat at 00:11:963 - at all remain, it is true that no beat, but this slider is for the background music sound. Another function for extented here is to emphasise the strong beat 00:12:052 -
Extra change: switch nc 00:10:445 (4,1) - for clear reading.
00:11:695 (6,4) - a bit of an avoidable overlap as long as it do not affect reading when playing.

00:12:231 (2) - not necessary clap fixed.

00:20:623 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - either stack them all or either make all of them like 00:20:802 (2,1) - . Consistency matters sorry, it is my mistake. As a lot of modder complain about using 00:20:802 (2,1) - this pattern, I changed for stacking.... but just missing one.

00:22:677 (4) - why making things more complex with this triplet? YOu're focusing the player's attention on the violins (or whatever instrument is the high pitched one), yet you add a bit of drum beats out of nowhere. Rhythm and spacing is not so intuitive, or rather, fitting for this diff nc added on 00:22:588 (1) - for clear reading of 1/1 space and 1/2 spacing. I think it is enough.

00:29:016 (1,2) - again with the 3/4 sliders. Above all with that strong hitsounding. There is no beat at 00:29:284 - remain, this diff is focusing on the vocal. vocal is ended at 00:29:284 -

00:29:909 (4) - minor, but what about stacking it on 00:30:088 (5) - ? The flow is not that great remain, the flowing here I think it is okay. I do not like linear flow but "Z" pattern.

00:30:088 (5,1) - there are many of these, and I don't intend to point them out one by one since on this diff there shouldn't be any why hard diff cannot map for vocal with extented slider?

00:39:552 (2,3) - where do you get that rhythm from? background music transition.

00:47:588 (1) - strong beat that gets weakened by the opposite directions of jump and slider body. Check the diff above ^ and in particular my screen to know the reasons I say this I think it is okay to have this for the claim part.

01:16:873 (2,3) - finish goes on the slider fixed

01:24:998 (1) - does the spinner needs such a strong hitsound ? I guess you mean volume? if yes then fixed.

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MrSergio wrote:
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Ky's Normal

00:09:731 (2) - don't ignore the strong beat on the white tick please remain, becasue 00:10:445 - is much more stronger.

01:00:981 (2) - the last beat is not needed, since there is none in the song (switching to vocals is not an option since those 2 rhythms don't have a merging point) fixed

Seriously, this map is no near ready to qualification status, sorry.
I'll keep monitoring this mapset. Contact me (or any other BN) for any questions regarding anything

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160,221,55981,1,8,0:0:0:0:
107,274,56159,2,0,P|87:235|96:182,1,100
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444,224,59016,2,0,P|398:269|403:317,1,100,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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95,338,60445,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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481,143,62766,2,0,P|498:190|479:241,1,100,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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50,282,64731,6,0,P|82:232|78:180,1,100
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199,80,76338,6,0,P|164:90|97:63,1,100,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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-Atri-

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Stay tuned for 2078

I have 62 years to play eroge, by that time i already finished all sets of my eroge

Electoz

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Electoz 2016-08-27T14:27:16+00:00

You can ask me for a recheck in 2078, don't worry

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-27T14:33:45+00:00

IDK does i alive in 2078 lol

Electoz

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Electoz 2016-08-27T17:13:26+00:00

Pass your account to your kids so they can rank this one.

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-27T17:18:04+00:00

I don't have one

moonlightleaf

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moonlightleaf 2016-08-28T05:06:18+00:00

[Easy]

00:40:266 (4) - seem this should put at 00:40:088 -

some NC will check ,like 00:44:731 (1) - | 00:57:766 (1) - etc..

[Ky's Normal]

01:14:731 (3,4) - use the same shape?

[Ky's Hard]

00:52:231 (2) - add triplet?

01:05:356 (3) - delete , here no sound

[beyond the Skies]

nothing to say..

-Atri-

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-Atri- 2016-08-28T05:15:42+00:00

moonlightleaf wrote:
[Easy]

00:40:266 (4) - seem this should put at 00:40:088 - Hmmmm... The sound on the white tick is stronger then red tick

some NC will check ,like 00:44:731 (1) - | 00:57:766 (1) - etc.. OK

Thanks for the mod~

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