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Xexxar
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Xexxar
lololol owntrolf you got spies working for you?





Absolute Duo


Ah yes, the epitome of memehelp memes, the quintessential know of map for anyone who maps. Well, someone finally cohered me into modding this map, so lets begin.

A couple things I want to preface this with.

When I mod, I have a tendency to subject some of my personal stylistic choices when mapping. Pardon this, as I try to remain as unbias as possible, but I know I will likely try to sprinkle some of my own flavor into this mod.

I will not hold back any comments that I make as I know you wish to see you're map actually ranked. I will do my utmost to try and help you achieve this goal.

Welp! let's go.
  1. 00:00:871 (4) - when I see this, it looks bad. Why? because its location serves no actual benefit towards the visual construction of this beatmap. What I mean is, there is no geometric or symmetric or quality reason for such a note to be placed here. What you could do, is create a triange pattern via the slider start 3, 2 and 4. This atleast provides a more satisfying visual aesthetic, and prevents the claim "this is randomly placed"

    SPOILER

    HOWEVER! By doing this, we still have a problem which is the fact that the slider design of 3 has no merit. In order to fix this, what I like to do is create a air blanket around 4. What is an air blanket? This:

    SPOILER

    This allows for the entire structure to have merit behind its construction. I recommend applying a similar structure to other sections of your map as you see fit.

  2. 00:01:350 (6,1,2) - There are two issues with the construction of these notes. One, why is the spacing more on 2 but less on 1? Consider the rhythm we have a strong beat on 1 but a weak soft beat on 2. This sort of beat has two options, we can replace 1 with a slider to allow for a more impactful and appreciable note, or we can stick with the circles and create a pattern that satisfies the intensity in the notes. One way I would suggest designing your jumps for such a pattern would be as follows:

    SPOILER

    If we follow the red path, we hit the note 1, which has a jump leading up to it, the path then changes direction on the purple circle then leads to 2. The purple circle shows a point where the player has to change directions significantly enough that it will affect their playstyle. In otherwords, people are going to stop on 1, and then turn to go to 2. It's makes the note more impactful because not only is the player clicking the note, their movements reflect a similar notion, stopping and starting. This is one way to create additional impact. Now, 2 is located in this location because of the symmetry brought on by the yellow lines. This is purposeful as the beat for 2 is very weak and not emphatic.

  3. 00:04:062 (1,2,3,4) - There is a problem with this pattern. What is the problem you may wonder? The design of this shape is poorly executed. There is inconsistency in the design and placement of the notes. It looks rickety and unstructured. A cleaner suggestion is as follows:

    SPOILER

    Why is this cleaner? because it relies on visual coherency, the notes all fall on a linear line (not necessary but seemed to be what you were going for. Not only that, but the notes 1-3 and 2-4 are seperated by a equal amount of space, allow the pattern to come off as thought out, and consistent.

  4. This will be my last comment: 00:04:860 (5,1,2,3,4) - with this, 5 and 1 create what i call a line of symmetry. But, with 3 and 4 you fail to follow this line of symmetry. Here is what I did to clean this up (it's easier to explain with a picture:

    SPOILER

    The purple line is this created axis of symmetry. With it, I altered the structure to preserve visual consistency with your patterns as seen with the orange lines dictating this design. With this, I also try to keep all of the notes the same distance apart from each other, as seen by the yellow lines. This is all for creating a visually consistent pattern in your design. Now, keep in mind this pattern is simply cleaning up what you have done. I did not pay any notice to your choice of spacing. I simply did what I felt would be appropriate given what you already had.
I choose to stop here because I feel that, while I could continue to point out flaws in your design, there's no need. Ultimately, if this map is to get anywhere, serious attention to design logic and thought will be needed. This design logic also must be EXPERTLY in tune with the overall understanding of what type of play you want the player to experience at all moments. I hope my post will help you in having some new tools for trying to create more consistent and visual appealing patterns.
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Anxient
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Joined June 2014
Anxient
*xexxar modding something
what universe is this is this real life
ConsumerOfBean
453 posts
Joined April 2015
ConsumerOfBean
if i fc the insane diff it gets bubbled
100% guarantee
theramdans
1,253 posts
Joined September 2012
theramdans
Anxient did you mod my updated diff or..... (im not sure if owntrolf did update or not)
EDIT
Nevermind, here's the updated diff (again)
EDIT 2
updated diff link http://puu.sh/m6MPU/d85b9bcbca.zip
Yauxo
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Joined June 2011
Yauxo
I was wondering what all the memes were about, clicked the collapsed box and saw my name. Took me a while to realize what Ive modded this a year ago. Damn
Blizs
898 posts
Joined November 2013
Blizs
just come over and reminds you~
The romanised artist should be "Konomi Suzuki" as mentioned here

and no kds
Anxient
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Joined June 2014
Anxient

Blizs wrote:

just come over and reminds you~
The romanised artist should be "Konomi Suzuki" as mentioned here

and no kds
OBJECTION!

Kuki
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Kuki

Blizs wrote:

just come over and reminds you~
The romanised artist should be "Konomi Suzuki" as mentioned here

and no kds
it's cause in japan your first and last name are swapped i guess but loads of people change that to make more sense, though the other map was dqd for this very reason, so it's sort-of a grey area.

here's quote for anyone that didn't check link
Eastern artists must be written in the proper 'surname firstname' format (e.g. Japanese/Chinese/Korean). For artists which have a preferred romanisation, use this one. If you're unsure of your artist's name, then check previously ranked maps, Google, Wikipedia, or ask a BN for help.
strickluke
433 posts
Joined March 2015
strickluke
When is rank going to be Absolute Souled?








































edit:remap kds
Anxient
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Joined June 2014
Anxient
day 28: still waiting for reply to mod
-Kanzaki
889 posts
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-Kanzaki

Anxient wrote:

day 28: still waiting for reply to mod

and he is still spamming on #modhelp
Bursthammy
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Joined May 2015
Bursthammy




Absolute Soul > Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon
Graf
25 posts
Joined May 2014
Graf
do you want mod?
qwr
111 posts
Joined August 2013
qwr
My suggestions

Light Insane
00:00:552 (3) - personally I think this is better as not a straight slider for its sound
00:22:094 (3) - move left
00:23:850 (4,1) - should match
00:26:243 (3,4,5) - strange change of direction - make the spacing more similar or gradually increasing
00:26:881 (1,3) - do not look very nice, are they symmetric
00:34:302 (3,4) - widen angle
00:34:860 (1) - rotate a bit CCW
00:36:137 (1) - rotate CW
00:38:690 (1,2,3,4) - not a nice looking angle, maybe move 2 and 3 up a little
01:04:381 (3,5) - too close, move 3 left

Insane
00:02:626 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - cool pattern but the change in spacing and direction might be too great
00:08:371 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - spacing should be greater due to previous patterns
00:50:658 (2,3) - this is confusing and 00:51:136 (6,1) - is difficult relative to the map
00:53:850 (1) - curved
01:02:307 (2) - move up and left a bit
01:11:562 (1) - curved
01:23:371 (2,1) - too close for their rhythm

Extra
00:20:897 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - the stack just goes nowhere?

Absolute Duo
Overall the map lacks structure (subjectively) - the spacing is too similar. Play around with notes close to each other and then big jumps, along with different angles. For example you can move these closer 00:00:552 (3,4,5)
00:02:626 (1) - curved
00:05:498 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - there's gotta be a better pattern than this
00:05:498 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - curved
00:07:733 (1,2,3) - closer
00:09:169 (1,2,3,4) - strange but it could work
00:10:286 (1,2,3) - overall does not look nice
00:11:562 (1,2) - change angles or make curved
00:14:913 (4,5) - looks weird
00:21:456 (10) - move left
00:23:850 (4) - curved or change direction
00:24:647 (2) - move all the way right
00:28:318 (1,2,3,4) - align on same line or modify so they are not parallel
00:32:786 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - combining linear and very curved stream so closely doesn't look nice, at least make 00:33:025 (6,1) not so distinct
00:37:094 (4) - rotate CW
00:37:892 (1,2,3) - overall you should not be overdoing this pattern, there are plenty of other options to mess around with
00:40:924 (5,1) - too rapid change of direction, same 00:43:238 (3,4)
00:43:637 (1) - can add cool slider art optionally
01:03:903 (1) - move right and rotate CCW
01:09:647 (4) - nudge right
01:18:264 (2,3,4,5) - change pattern looks awkward
01:25:924 (1,2,3,4) - instead of zigzag you can make back and forth or rotated increasing jumps

Meme aside, I'd like to see this map ranked, however right now it's not ready. I have recently seen sloppier maps get ranked, though.
Owntrolf
546 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Owntrolf

Anxient wrote:

this isn't going to be fun. remember that this is all my opinion.

easy
as a whole i would remap this because i think that this easy diff is too clustered, as in, the spacing between diffs is too low. if youre going to remap this, alter the DS to a point where the follow point would be visible.

00:01:509 (3) - copy slider from 00:00:233 (1) - to show relation. These are similar parts so you wanna make them look related.
00:03:424 (2) - get rid of red tick, its unecessary.
00:16:190 (1,2) - blanket
00:20:977 (3) - make into a 1/1 slider
00:23:850 (2,3,4) - theres a term i like to use which is called slider entry and slider exit. Basically if there is stuff like http://puu.sh/m3Dtg/88d8e19e43.jpg, i would like to have it fixed by doing [url][http://puu.sh/m3Duu/589d62cebd.jpg/url]. see the pattern? yeah you know what to fix. If there are any questions regarding this, feel free to forum pm me. btw theres a reason why i hl'd 2 as well.
00:26:403 (4,5,1) - what is this spacing on easy lol
00:28:318 (1,2,3) - try to keep a consistent rhythm hmm? this is an easy diff.
00:33:424 (1,2,3) - make 3 the same position as 1 and 2. basically if you turn 3 into a slider to stream with 1/1 distance and you get 1 and 2, you already fixed it. if you didnt understand, just rotate it by 13 degrees.
00:37:254 (2) - red tick unnecessary.
00:39:169 (4,1,2,3) - blanket pls
01:03:903 - to end, justified to my claim on the beginning of the easy diff mod, the low spacing causes this map to feel and appear unbearably clustered; something that we do not want in 2015 and the upcoming year of 2016. If this were to get ranked, you would need to time warp up to 2012. Even then its not a guarantee.

verdict for this diff: unrankable, because of issues mentioned above, clustered all the way to hell and inconsistent rhythm.

normal
this one no longer has the spacing problem. but there are some notes that brush way too close to the other notes, making it seem clustered. spacing these notes would help. also with the easy diff, remap is recommended.

00:06:296 (3) - ctrl h and reposition
00:09:488 (5,1) - example of notes that brush way too close
00:13:318 (2,5) - blanket this. looks good too.
on normal diffs i tend to avoid to use two circles in a row because of the lack of patterning that is allowed to do with 2 circles in normal diffs. that being said...
00:15:552 (1,2) - change to slider. i recommend using 5 and ctrl h+j+g and reposition
00:16:828 (4,5) - slider entry is bad, please fix.
00:23:371 (1) - 00:23:211 - place here, and reposition so that distance isnt broken
00:26:881 (3) - flip this thing around http://puu.sh/m3Ebu/93223c0ca6.jpg
00:33:424 - rhythm gets a bit confusing. use easier to pick up rhythm please.
00:36:615 (2,1,2) - this is a bit hard to read in normal diffs imho
00:43:637 (1) - woah this looks ugly. try making some shapes and ask modhelp what they think. make an omega symbol? thats always a good thing.
00:47:467 (3) - this looks out of place.
00:49:701 (3) - flip this around. using the same slider curve position twice really isnt screaming quality for you.
00:51:296 (1) - flip around. part links from the previous to the next, so yea
00:51:296 (1,2,3) - just do this http://puu.sh/m3El5/3e7fcbe86e.jpg it looks way better. fix any spacing problems that may arise from this.
00:53:211 (4,2) - overlap
01:09:009 (4,2) - too curvy, make it wider so that blanket is more visible
01:15:552 (3,2) - alter 2 (rotate in a way that 3 would be able to sliderblanket 2)
01:16:669 (2,3) - slider entry, rotate 3 to fix (-89 degrees) also put it more up (339:184)
01:17:467 (3,4,5) - doesnt this look bad to you? do something like this. or do this http://puu.sh/m3EFl/16adf89e9c.jpg. Itll make it look better.
01:24:647 (1,2,1) - i dont understand this overlapping. please dont.

verdict: unrankable, because of lack of overall quality as well as some really bad overlapping and brushing of notes. Honestly if you tried to rank this then youre going to have a really bad time. As a normal diff, this map fails. Remap is recommended. and if you do, please use more spacing and avoid overlapping like the PLAGUE.

ramdans' hard
well this diff is alot better than from what ive seen. As expected from rammy. BUT this diff still shouldnt be ranked due to a few problems. Allow me to explain.
hopefully youll get around to remapping it because this looks like 2014 ramdans. and 2014 ramdans shouldnt be going for rank in 2016 era.

00:00:552 (3,4,1) - DS is waaay too low. please increase.
00:01:509 (1,2,3) - what is DS consistency?
00:03:105 (2,3) - as i said from the previous diff mods, i dont recommend this because of lack of available patterning. use a slider instead and make it pretty.
00:05:658 (2,3) - this is fine tho. this is cool.
00:08:211 (2,3,4) - slider maybe?
00:11:084 (5,6) - slider entry improvement please. rotate 6 more downwards. thatll help. ALSO fix any destroyed distance that may happen should this mod be applied. (it should be applied)
00:12:998 - onwards - DS IS TOO CLUSTERED ASDF
00:23:052 (3,1,2) - what is this slider entry wth?
00:25:286 (5,6) - what is with slider ends landing on strong beats?
00:31:669 (3) - http://puu.sh/m3FaZ/9b948840bf.jpg try this. itll look better.
00:34:062 (2,3,1) - place 3 more downwards so that it looks more linear. fix 1 so that slider entry doesnt suck. read above mods regarding slider entry so you know what im talking about.
00:45:552 (3,1) - well this looks stiff af
00:53:850 (1,2,3) - f this slider entry
00:54:488 (3,4) - bad overlap
00:56:084 (7,8) - slider pls. it looks bad.
00:56:403 (1,2) - rotate 2 so that you actually get a curve if you use one slider.
00:57:041 (2,3) - better do a slider blanket instead of a sliderend blanket.
01:03:903 - whee the spacing is fine!
01:06:935 (2,3) - place this more up so that 3 looks better when youre exiting 2 http://puu.sh/m3FrQ/92b544ca46.jpg
01:09:647 (3) - make a curve downwards slider http://puu.sh/m3FuP/f4bd2811dd.jpg
01:26:881 (1) - SV CHANGE WOOO

verdict: rankable, but not recommended. as mentioned, some parts of the song were lacking the 2015 feel. which means slider entry being absolute rekt, and certain parts of the map's DS is far too low for comfortable viewing. from your winter map, you displayed an awesome hard diff. Try to remap this so that we get that required quality.

light insane
aah the root of all this map's problems. Lets see whats wrong with this.

00:00:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - well this looks extremely stiff. Listen. if youre gonna map an insane, or light insane i dont care, map it like an insane.
00:02:307 (2,1,2) - 00:03:424 - white tick on slider end = NONONONONO
00:03:105 (2) - rotate 2 so that it blankets 00:03:584 (3) - doing this also fixes slider entry issue
00:04:860 (3,1) - slider blanket please
00:05:658 (2) - make it curve, i dont understand why its a straight slider. doesnt look nice.
00:06:456 (1) - strong beat in a slider end? please no
00:09:647 (3) - ctrl h+g and blanket slider end of 3 with 2. 00:09:967 (3,1) - slider entry = check and 00:09:169 (1,2,3) - circle flow = check.
00:14:115 (1) - whats with you and slider ends on white ticks? :<
00:14:594 (3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/m3Gta/bdafce02bc.jpg to improve slider entry and overall flow.
00:16:190 (1) - ctrl g for better flow and emphasis.
00:16:669 (3) - slider end on white tick
00:18:105 (9,1) - i dont understand this placement? try doing http://puu.sh/m3GBZ/6ba7e850f4.jpg this. it helps with visual and flow.
00:20:977 (3) - ctrl g to improve flow. and because of that 1/1 break time it doesnt matter about the flow to the next note.
00:24:328 (1) - slider end white tick???
00:25:445 (5) - ctrl g, turn this to a 1/2 slider, make it repeat.
00:38:690 (1,2,3,4) - make it a proper square pls. use polygon objects.
00:41:084 (3,2) - blanket??
00:43:637 (4) - might wanna use a higher DS to emphasize the new part of the song
00:46:190 (4) - i vote ctrl g to keep flow. flow break is something we dont need rn
00:45:552 (3,5) - try to relocate 5 so that it can slider blanket 3. make sure 3 starts on the bottom so we get that flow. fix any note inconsisencies.
00:53:052 (3,4,5,6) - i dont understand this antijumps. people might mistake for doubles and triples. at least make em a slider?
00:53:850 - onwards dammit DS too low
00:57:520 (4) - slider end white tick hue
01:03:424 (1,2) - use slider unless you use two hitcircles for emphasis?
01:05:818 (3) - use a curve lol why is this jagged
01:06:456 (1,2,3,4) - this is random lol. did you decide to put a random pattern here?
01:07:733 (1) - if youre gonna keep it at least make the transition to this flow better. ctrl g actually helps
01:08:211 (2) - blanket with 1. helps with flow to 3 and emphasis with vocals.
01:10:764 (2,3) - blanket?
01:12:839 (4) - NC lol
01:12:998 (1) - continue combo
01:13:956 (1) - ^
01:14:115 (2) - NC
01:19:222 (1,2,3) - i dont understand the fancy sliders.
01:20:498 (1) - WHY. did you get lazy or something?!
01:20:498 (1,1) - slider blanket. or fix it so it doesnt look like shit if you decide to remap 01:20:498 (1) - this... THING.
01:25:605 (1,4) - dont make them touch pls

verdict: this diff has CLEARLY gone through alot of polishing. But still unrankable. well, it IS rankable, but certainly not recommended, mostly due to that thing near the end and visual and flow issues. Even though this diff has gone through alot of polishing, if its bad to begin with, it will always be bad. remap is recommended, coz your mapping style MUSTVE changed in the course of one year. (in the case in which it didnt, youre fucked.)

insane
well this diff isnt so bad!

00:09:488 (3,4) - slider entry fix
00:11:562 (1) - you were going with cross jumps so position this in a way where it will cross again in the resulting jump. well better if you just did this:
00:11:562 (1) - 411:238
00:11:881 (2) - 210:265
00:12:201 (3,1) - lol if youre really going to do this then at LEAST stack them properly
00:14:594 (3) - dont do a flow break here bro still the same song part
00:16:669 (1) - slider end on white??
00:17:147 (3,4,5) - this is triggering me so hard right now. slider entry fix pls
00:20:179 (5) - better to do a 3 hit jump actually... make a triangle or something
00:21:775 (1) - ctrl g for emphasis
00:22:094 (2) - ^
00:22:094 (3) - ^ and so 00:22:733 (4) - this gets the emphasis it deserves
00:23:131 (5,1) - just do auto stack
00:24:169 (6) - turn this into a 1/2 slider
00:24:328 (1) - if ^ is applied, 00:24:488 - hitcircle
00:26:881 (1) - i dont understand why you keep doing this
00:27:360 (3) - ctrl g coz flowbreak isnt necessary here rn
00:27:679 (4) - move to 135:144 for flow if ^ mod is used
00:26:881 (1) - 2 hitcircles. made for jumping pls
00:29:435 (1) - NGAAAAAAAAAAH turn to a 3 hit jump pls
00:45:552 (3) - lyrics are very prominent here. turn to a 1/1 slider.
00:50:658 (2,3,4,5,6) - holy shit this looks terrible. do this instead http://puu.sh/m3ItL/9af9765b34.jpg
01:01:669 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - might wanna make a jump without flow breaks thanks
01:03:584 - missing note
01:04:860 (5) - place in 422:171 for pattern consistency and 01:05:179 (1) - flow improvement
01:05:179 (1,2) - you missed the opportunity to add a blanket
01:13:956 - missing note. maybe stack it with 1?
01:15:552 - 01:15:233 (5) - copy this slider, ctrl h+j+g and place in 01:14:913 (4) - slider end. BOOM flow improvement.
01:15:552 (6,1,2) - overmap
01:25:605 (1) - lol just make it a hitcircle.
01:26:881 (1) - ctrl g and place doubles in appropriate area

verdict: rankable, but not recommended coz of issues above and visual problems.

irre's extra
just gonna point out a few suggestions since i cant play this diff

00:13:158 (2,3) - might wanna change into something more readable buddy
00:14:435 (7,8) - ^
00:18:743 (4,5,6) - this flows like terrible and you know it. please change unless you have a reason as to why it should stay
00:20:897 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,1) - were you even serious when you were making this diff lol this stream doesnt even have consistent ds or any sort of emphasis

verdict: if this set gets ranked with this diff i will jump over a bridge thats over a bridge

absolute duo
right now im really freaking tired so... remap?

map looks really messy tho... random jumps left and right... patterns starting and stopping... inconsistent jumps?
yep needs a remap. or... you can delete the diff. your pick man. you can end the set with insane and itll be all kay.
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Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
about time
im freaking done with this map. rot in graveyard for all i care
Kuki
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Kuki
jew
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
everyone is annoyed when he writes absolute soul in modhelp
why is no bn looking at it

WHY
please let this come to an end rofl
Battle
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Joined February 2014
Battle
it's the the grave shhhhh
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient

Irreversible wrote:

everyone is annoyed when he writes absolute soul in modhelp
why is no bn looking at it

WHY
please let this come to an end rofl
there are literally no active BNs for standard

everyone is too busy with their own sheet
Battle
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Battle
o god it's back
_handholding
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Joined April 2014
_handholding

Battle wrote:

o god it's back
o good it's back

ftfy
Xenans
37 posts
Joined October 2009
Xenans
Kill it with fire
Bursthammy
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Joined May 2015
Bursthammy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi8za2kTJDs
Kagetsu
796 posts
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Kagetsu
hype
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient
maybe youll properly reply to my mod? :D
MBomb
MBomb
there's still qwr's mod to reply to too xd
Bursthammy
1,254 posts
Joined May 2015
Bursthammy
small mod because I can't listen to this song for more than 15 minutes before wanting to throw up in disgust

Light Insane

The changing spacing in this diff is really what kills this. Either put the effort in to fix it or remap, otherwise:

BLANKETS: 00:18:264 (1,3) - 00:32:786 (2,3) - (ALL OF THIS: 00:54:807 (4,1,2,3,4) - ) 00:56:881 (2,3) -
00:23:850 (4) - Literally no reason for this to have a sharp curve
00:39:169 (4) - Move to x:196, y:164

Absolute Duo

00:09:647 (4,5) - Sounds awkward when in the forefront of the music is one continuous note, and this is mapping to the drums in the background, unlike anything else in the song. Pls change to one big slider.
00:51:137 (2) - This note positioned here makes 00:50:977 (1,2,3) - look awkward as shit
00:54:328 (2) - x:232, y:276 is a more consistent blanket for the next section of notes
01:14:435 (3) - Try x:272, y:148 :^)
01:16:669 (1,2,3,4,5) - This whole pattern is inconsistent and plays super awkward because of it
01:18:264 (2,3,4,5) - ^

E P I C

M E E M Z
Owntrolf
546 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Owntrolf

Anxient wrote:

this isn't going to be fun. remember that this is all my opinion.

easy
as a whole i would remap this because i think that this easy diff is too clustered, as in, the spacing between diffs is too low. if youre going to remap this, alter the DS to a point where the follow point would be visible. Literally every easy ever

00:01:509 (3) - copy slider from 00:00:233 (1) - to show relation. These are similar parts so you wanna make them look related. No
00:03:424 (2) - get rid of red tick, its unecessary. What drugs there is no redtick
00:16:190 (1,2) - blanket Done
00:20:977 (3) - make into a 1/1 slider Would make density too high
00:23:850 (2,3,4) - theres a term i like to use which is called slider entry and slider exit. Basically if there is stuff like http://puu.sh/m3Dtg/88d8e19e43.jpg, i would like to have it fixed by doing [url][http://puu.sh/m3Duu/589d62cebd.jpg/url]. see the pattern? yeah you know what to fix. If there are any questions regarding this, feel free to forum pm me. btw theres a reason why i hl'd 2 as well. Pleaseshortenicantseejackshitin notepad
00:26:403 (4,5,1) - what is this spacing on easy lol Wotm8
00:28:318 (1,2,3) - try to keep a consistent rhythm hmm? this is an easy diff. No
00:33:424 (1,2,3) - make 3 the same position as 1 and 2. basically if you turn 3 into a slider to stream with 1/1 distance and you get 1 and 2, you already fixed it. if you didnt understand, just rotate it by 13 degrees.
00:37:254 (2) - red tick unnecessary. Whatredtick
00:39:169 (4,1,2,3) - blanket pls It already is
01:03:903 - to end, justified to my claim on the beginning of the easy diff mod, the low spacing causes this map to feel and appear unbearably clustered; something that we do not want in 2015 and the upcoming year of 2016. If this were to get ranked, you would need to time warp up to 2012. Even then its not a guarantee.
SPOILER
###yousuck go look at at every other goddamn absolute soul

verdict for this diff: unrankable, because of issues mentioned above, clustered all the way to hell and inconsistent rhythm.
fuckdickyousuck

normal
this one no longer has the spacing problem. but there are some notes that brush way too close to the other notes, making it seem clustered. spacing these notes would help. also with the easy diff, remap is recommended.

00:06:296 (3) - ctrl h and reposition Watno
00:09:488 (5,1) - example of notes that brush way too close Then why do overlaps exist
00:13:318 (2,5) - blanket this. looks good too. No
on normal diffs i tend to avoid to use two circles in a row because of the lack of patterning that is allowed to do with 2 circles in normal diffs. that being said...
00:15:552 (1,2) - change to slider. i recommend using 5 and ctrl h+j+g and reposition Slider doesnt fit
00:16:828 (4,5) - slider entry is bad, please fix. Deal with it
00:23:371 (1) - 00:23:211 - place here, and reposition so that distance isnt broken No vocals
00:26:881 (3) - flip this thing around http://puu.sh/m3Ebu/93223c0ca6.jpg No
00:33:424 - rhythm gets a bit confusing. use easier to pick up rhythm please. Its already easy
00:36:615 (2,1,2) - this is a bit hard to read in normal diffs imho You can literally see the start and repeat points
00:43:637 (1) - woah this looks ugly. try making some shapes and ask modhelp what they think. make an omega symbol? thats always a good thing. I should make a shape of your d/color]
00:47:467 (3) - this looks out of place.
00:49:701 (3) - flip this around. using the same slider curve position twice really isnt screaming quality for you. Quality is subjective triggered
00:51:296 (1) - flip around. part links from the previous to the next, so yea How about no
00:51:296 (1,2,3) - just do this http://puu.sh/m3El5/3e7fcbe86e.jpg it looks way better. fix any spacing problems that may arise from this.
00:53:211 (4,2) - overlap "overlap"
01:09:009 (4,2) - too curvy, make it wider so that blanket is more visible Great now you should start complaining about those chinese supertight slider curves
01:15:552 (3,2) - alter 2 (rotate in a way that 3 would be able to sliderblanket 2) Too clustered
01:16:669 (2,3) - slider entry, rotate 3 to fix (-89 degrees) also put it more up (339:184) No
01:17:467 (3,4,5) - doesnt this look bad to you? do something like this. or do this http://puu.sh/m3EFl/16adf89e9c.jpg. Itll make it look better. No
01:24:647 (1,2,1) - i dont understand this overlapping. please dont. Welcome to distance snapping dicks

verdict: unrankable, because of lack of overall quality as well as some really bad overlapping and brushing of notes. Honestly if you tried to rank this then youre going to have a really bad time. As a normal diff, this map fails. Remap is recommended. and if you do, please use more spacing and avoid overlapping like the PLAGUE. dicks

light insane
aah the root of all this map's problems. Lets see whats wrong with this.

00:00:233 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - well this looks extremely stiff. Listen. if youre gonna map an insane, or light insane i dont care, map it like an insane. It is an insane
00:02:307 (2,1,2) - 00:03:424 - white tick on slider end = NONONONONO My head hurts
00:03:105 (2) - rotate 2 so that it blankets 00:03:584 (3) - doing this also fixes slider entry issue No
00:04:860 (3,1) - slider blanket please Already is
00:05:658 (2) - make it curve, i dont understand why its a straight slider. doesnt look nice. No
00:06:456 (1) - strong beat in a slider end? please no Hi guitars
00:09:647 (3) - ctrl h+g and blanket slider end of 3 with 2. 00:09:967 (3,1) - slider entry = check and 00:09:169 (1,2,3) - circle flow = check. No
00:14:115 (1) - whats with you and slider ends on white ticks? :< what are vocals
00:14:594 (3,4,5) - http://puu.sh/m3Gta/bdafce02bc.jpg to improve slider entry and overall flow. No
00:16:190 (1) - ctrl g for better flow and emphasis. No
00:16:669 (3) - slider end on white tick Hi vocals
00:18:105 (9,1) - i dont understand this placement? try doing http://puu.sh/m3GBZ/6ba7e850f4.jpg this. it helps with visual and flow. Hi jumps
00:20:977 (3) - ctrl g to improve flow. and because of that 1/1 break time it doesnt matter about the flow to the next note. You forgot to check your own OH MY GOD SLIDER ENTRY
00:24:328 (1) - slider end white tick??? Hi vocals
00:25:445 (5) - ctrl g, turn this to a 1/2 slider, make it repeat. How much drugs, its still completely fine as a 1/1
00:38:690 (1,2,3,4) - make it a proper square pls. use polygon objects. Hi diamond shapes
00:41:084 (3,2) - blanket?? Blankets are overated
00:43:637 (4) - might wanna use a higher DS to emphasize the new part of the song You do realize 4 is a different ds from 1,2,3
00:46:190 (4) - i vote ctrl g to keep flow. flow break is something we dont need rn doesnt match
00:45:552 (3,5) - try to relocate 5 so that it can slider blanket 3. make sure 3 starts on the bottom so we get that flow. fix any note inconsisencies. It was already blanketed from the start
00:53:052 (3,4,5,6) - i dont understand this antijumps. people might mistake for doubles and triples. at least make em a slider? No
00:53:850 - onwards dammit DS too low What are you expecting? DS 5x?
00:57:520 (4) - slider end white tick hue Hi vocals
01:03:424 (1,2) - use slider unless you use two hitcircles for emphasis? Gee I wonder what I wanted to do
01:05:818 (3) - use a curve lol why is this jagged Variety
01:06:456 (1,2,3,4) - this is random lol. did you decide to put a random pattern here? At least it's just a mirror of itself
01:07:733 (1) - if youre gonna keep it at least make the transition to this flow better. ctrl g actually helps No
01:08:211 (2) - blanket with 1. helps with flow to 3 and emphasis with vocals. TFW you talk about flow but you start screaming about slider entrys
01:10:764 (2,3) - blanket? Why would I even blanket something again
01:12:839 (4) - NC lol Hi vocal ncing
01:12:998 (1) - continue combo
01:13:956 (1) - ^
01:14:115 (2) - NC
01:19:222 (1,2,3) - i dont understand the fancy sliders.
01:20:498 (1) - WHY. did you get lazy or something?!
01:20:498 (1,1) - slider blanket. or fix it so it doesnt look like shit if you decide to remap 01:20:498 (1) - this... THING.
01:25:605 (1,4) - dont make them touch pls

verdict: this diff has CLEARLY gone through alot of polishing. But still unrankable. well, it IS rankable, but certainly not recommended, mostly due to that thing near the end and visual and flow issues. Even though this diff has gone through alot of polishing, if its bad to begin with, it will always be bad. remap is recommended, coz your mapping style MUSTVE changed in the course of one year. (in the case in which it didnt, youre fucked.)

insane
well this diff isnt so bad! My head hurts from people not reading who made this

00:09:488 (3,4) - slider entry fix Enter your eyes
00:11:562 (1) - you were going with cross jumps so position this in a way where it will cross again in the resulting jump. well better if you just did this:
00:11:562 (1) - 411:238
00:11:881 (2) - 210:265
00:12:201 (3,1) - lol if youre really going to do this then at LEAST stack them properly Its already stacked
00:14:594 (3) - dont do a flow break here bro still the same song part Plays fine
00:16:669 (1) - slider end on white?? Vocals
00:17:147 (3,4,5) - this is triggering me so hard right now. slider entry fix pls Your very existence is triggering me
00:20:179 (5) - better to do a 3 hit jump actually... make a triangle or something N 0
00:21:775 (1) - ctrl g for emphasis N 0 , if this was ctrlg'd from the start you would be raging about slider fucking entry
00:22:094 (2) - ^N 0 , if this was ctrlg'd from the start you would be raging about slider fucking entry
00:22:094 (3) - ^ and so 00:22:733 (4) - this gets the emphasis it deserves What the hell you just used 00:22:094 twice
00:23:131 (5,1) - just do auto stack Autostack is garbage
00:24:169 (6) - turn this into a 1/2 slider Causes conflicts pls look at what is there
00:24:328 (1) - if ^ is applied, 00:24:488 - hitcircle No
00:26:881 (1) - i dont understand why you keep doing this I dont know why you're so butthurt over vocals
00:27:360 (3) - ctrl g coz flowbreak isnt necessary here rn No
00:27:679 (4) - move to 135:144 for flow if ^ mod is used No
00:26:881 (1) - 2 hitcircles. made for jumping pls You just went back in time and reused the same goddamn time
00:29:435 (1) - NGAAAAAAAAAAH turn to a 3 hit jump pls No hi vocals
00:45:552 (3) - lyrics are very prominent here. turn to a 1/1 slider. Unneeded
00:50:658 (2,3,4,5,6) - holy shit this looks terrible. do this instead http://puu.sh/m3ItL/9af9765b34.jpg No
01:01:669 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - might wanna make a jump without flow breaks thanks No
01:03:584 - missing note No, 1/2 after a spinner is just weird since "kimi" arent both pressed
01:04:860 (5) - place in 422:171 for pattern consistency and 01:05:179 (1) - flow improvement No
01:05:179 (1,2) - you missed the opportunity to add a blanket Screw your blankets
01:13:956 - missing note. maybe stack it with 1? Polarity
01:15:552 - 01:15:233 (5) - copy this slider, ctrl h+j+g and place in 01:14:913 (4) - slider end. BOOM flow improvement. No
01:15:552 (6,1,2) - overmap No
01:25:605 (1) - lol just make it a hitcircle. No
01:26:881 (1) - ctrl g and place doubles in appropriate area No

verdict: rankable, but not recommended coz of issues above and visual problems.


absolute duo
right now im really freaking tired so... remap?

map looks really messy tho... random jumps left and right... patterns starting and stopping... inconsistent jumps?
yep needs a remap. or... you can delete the diff. your pick man. you can end the set with insane and itll be all kay.
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Xexxar
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Xexxar
rip anxient

also 00:12:201 (3) - this slider end isnt snapped. :\ no wonder a remap was suggested
_handholding
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Joined April 2014
_handholding

Xexxar wrote:

rip anxient

also 00:12:201 (3) - this slider end isnt snapped. :\ no wonder a remap was suggested
lmao
Sotarks
Mapping Architect
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Sotarks

Xexxar wrote:

rip anxient

also 00:12:201 (3) - this slider end isnt snapped. :\ no wonder a remap was suggested
lmao xDDDD
Anxient
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Anxient
at least its something \;d/
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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BeatofIke
wow
DeletedUser_3044645
DeletedUser_3044645
is this star icon the one i gave you a year ago? lmao
Doormat
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Doormat

Moeka wrote:

is this star icon the one i gave you a year ago? lmao
don't think it was your that gave the star icon-

SPOILER

back on topic, good luck with this owntrolf oxo/
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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BeatofIke
That's....actually my star icon XD
p/4696096
The mapset was popped for a very long time, so I just moved it back to star icon lol
ConsumerOfBean
453 posts
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ConsumerOfBean
why am i modding this..
not modding gds btw too lazy
also this mod is bad because i'm a bad mapper
Easy
00:03:424 (2,3) - Weird. 2/1 repeating slider followed by a 1/2 slider. Why not 2 1/1 sliders, 1 circle, then a 1/2 slider? it sounds a lot better imo.
00:30:233 (2,3) - Very bad looking. Try https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4794777, if anything.
Normal
00:07:094 (4) - extend to white tick? you're clearly not afraid of using 1/2.
01:12:201 (2,3) - blanket please
Light Insane
00:04:860 (3,1) - blanket please
00:09:967 (3) - personally, i'd use 2 circles instead of a slider. your choice though.
01:12:839 (1,2,3,4,5) - only jump in the map. it feels.. weird. i don't know how to describe it.
Insane
Inconsistent kiai
00:00:233 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - increase the spacing a bit? it's kinda cluttered.
00:17:626 (5,1,2) - blanket with 5 and 2 could be better.
00:47:467 (1,2) - there's never enough blankets in this world.
01:22:733 (5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2) - try a triple then 1/4 slider jumps until the next 1/2 slider. seems better, imo.
Absolute Duo seems fine
CircleChu
190 posts
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CircleChu
Why graveyard? Go rank it dude! #nevergiveup
Kibbleru
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Kibbleru
i just realized, isnt the bg swapped around?

blonde chick is supposed to have big boobs and julie is supposed to be flat. wtf
Kathex
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Kathex
Never forget to say BN's are shit and Quality is just a denial to say u're not inside the BN circlejerking! :)
Reddit
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Reddit
RANK ABSOLUTE SOUL
Joe Castle
802 posts
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Joe Castle
Rank this map. Now
sahuang
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sahuang
Pls rank this... I will rank Blade of Hope together with u :)
2015 January anime lets go!
Melter
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Melter
kill yourself owntroll
Shiguma
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Shiguma
Have you even played your own difficulty?
Owntrolf
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Topic Starter
Owntrolf
Im quite sure I played it a few hundred times by now
ConsumerOfBean
453 posts
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ConsumerOfBean
alright here's some quick opinions for easy and normal because fuck i was bored
Easy
Honestly you're better off remapping this, and here's why:
00:05:020 (3,1) - Stuff like this is kinda FUCK for newbies because it throws em WAY off, 1/2 in an easy is generally a bad idea at this BPM anyway
The slow parts are in 2/1, which by itself is not a problem, but when you have sudden jerky transitions like 00:20:977 (3,1,2,3,1) - (1/2 AGAIN owntrolf WHAT ARE you DOING) it can be REALLY awkward and i mean REALLY awkward
01:15:871 (1) - Stuff like this is WEIRD since the slider doesn't seem to be following an obvious rhythm
01:18:424 (4,1) - All of the weird changes in slider length, such as here, may fit within the song but ONCE AGAIN confusing the heck out of a new player, might just want to stick to a 1/1 rhythm with an occasional 2/1 slider when it fits within the song
If you don't want to remap it that's k but I think you'd benefit greatly from doing so.
Normal
Why is the SV so slow? It could easily be better at 1.1 or 1.2 rather than 0.9.
00:09:169 (4,5,6) - This is kind of a bit of a weird flow, isn't it?
Honestly if you haven't remapped it in the year this map has existed I'd do it now if you ACTUALYL want it ranked, since it'd be better purely based off of experience then what you have currently, same with Easy.
IT'S JUST AN OPINION BRO
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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BeatofIke
Going once, going twice...
@Owntrolf: Are you still planning to ranking this mapset?
Owntrolf
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Topic Starter
Owntrolf

BeatofIke wrote:

Going once, going twice...
@Owntrolf: Are you still planning to ranking this mapset?
Sure
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined September 2011
BeatofIke
You know what. Fix this and I'll end this meme once and for all.
This mapset is technically an old bubble anyways.

[Absolute Duo]
  1. 00:12:201 (3) - This slider is unsnapped. Please fix.
Owntrolf
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Owntrolf

BeatofIke wrote:

You know what. Fix this and I'll end this meme once and for all.
This mapset is technically an old bubble anyways.

[Absolute Duo]
  1. 00:12:201 (3) - This slider is unsnapped. Please fix.
Done, sorry for your BN points hit
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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BeatofIke
Good Luck~
Battle
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Battle
o
Electoz
Nomination Assessment Team
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Electoz
Is this happening
Akiyama Mizuki
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Akiyama Mizuki
whoa really
HecterUs
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HecterUs
Thank you
Endaris
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Endaris

Kibbleru wrote:

i just realized, isnt the bg swapped around?

blonde chick is supposed to have big boobs and julie is supposed to be flat. wtf
unrankable issue ? :o
Hula
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Hula
I don't think owntrolf deserves this
Yuii-
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Yuii-
The pressure, dude
Lanturn
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Lanturn
good stuff. Good luck Owntrolf o/
Irreversible
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Irreversible
KIMI -

never forget bearizm 2k16

before it gets ranked i need to fix some nc's , plz wait
Kroytz
703 posts
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Kroytz
I'm really disappointed in you BeatofIke. It feels like you only bubbled this because you felt obligated to rather than trying to improve the quality of the mapset before pushing it forward.
Whatever the case may be, I'll address some issues in the last difficulty I hope you and Owntrolf should review first before trying to move this set any further.

Absolute Duo
Probably the only diff that's most trigger inducing in this set.

00:01:350 (6,1,2) - The way this is structured seems a bit odd because the way it's played seems like these 3 circles would be part of the same combo but they're split on the downbeat. Especially when you show a similar relationship with 00:01:828 (3,4,5) - it makes the former combo's (6) look a bit out of place.

00:04:381 (3,4,5) - Spacing difference here might be strange. ctrl-g the (5) could improve flow but the next combo would have to be adjusted to continue it.

00:05:818 (4,5,6,7) - the entire sequence spells laziness to me especially because the last part of this combo isn't a perfect triangle like the first part. why is that?

00:09:488 (3) - I would imagine this being around 66;79 to continue this flowy movement and the slider on the right side of this combo.

00:14:115 (1,2) - Rhythm should be ctrl-g'd to hit the downbeat but you do this so frequently (albeit a weak decision) that it'd be redundant to point them all out.

00:18:105 (7) - Should be NC'd since you do it previous combos. Sure the vocal is next but it's a weak decision imo..

00:19:222 (5) - NC since you do it before.

00:20:020 (1) - Remove NC

00:20:658 (3) - NC

00:17:147 (3,5,1) - I'm not sure what it is you're making with this formation of sliders since they don't really compliment each other nor overlap pleasantly. The flow also gets altered as you hit this so it doesn't really make sense to me..

00:19:222 (5) - NC problems again, you get the idea. I won't point these out anymore.

00:23:211 (7) - ^ one last one kek

00:32:786 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't understand why split the stream so intently when the only difference between the first half and second is a drum beat. What could make for a neat effect is making either accelerating streams to empower the vocals or decelerating streams to emphasize the next section of the song. Either way might work better than what you have currently.

00:35:339 (3) - According to your logic, this should be NC'd as well where 00:34:860 (1) - gets no NC. This whole section has a bit of NC problems so keep them consistent pls.

One other thing - from a structural point - of view is just look at how congested this is 00:37:892 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1) - they are all falling within the same boxed area within the editor. Nothing deviates these patterns apart which makes for a rather repetitive beatmap.

00:47:467 (1) - Why not make this slider blanket the previous slider's tail? Right now it overlaps unnecessarily so I'm just thinking about aesthetics with this.

00:49:701 (1) - You can reduce this slider by 1/2 to add a circle on the white and start an NC there with 4 beats. In that way: 00:51:296 (3) - will be NC'd on the downbeat.

00:51:775 (4) - this might look better if it was the same slider as (3) but flipped onto the other side instead.

00:59:754 (1) - remove NC and add NC 01:00:073 (3) -

01:01:190 (1,2) - NC stuff here too

01:01:350 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this entire sequence might just be better if it was all circles and one or two consistent NCs.

01:05:179 (1) - Remove NC

01:06:296 (7,1,2,3,1) - DS varies here too much. Strong beats should have larger spacing (theoretically) than the weaker beats. Also NC problems and I think ion general the pattern could be improved so it doesn't look like, well, im not sure what design you were going with this entire thing 01:06:296 (7,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) -

01:16:669 (1,2,3) - Lots of undermapping here when the other diffs don't do it. Your previous phrase you didn't undermap it here either so why start undermapping?

01:19:860 (3) - personally I don't think these look attractive but that's debatable to whomever thinks otherwise.

01:21:296 (3) - Overlap seems a bit unnecessary here. Get partially overlapped with 01:21:775 (1) - and I think that those two sliders don't really work well, given just how much is being undermapped in the chorus. It's kiai time after all.

01:23:052 (1) - Might be better to map as circles to bring more emphasis around.

01:24:647 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - The second half is a bit off from being a perfect triangle.

01:27:201 (1,2,3) - Dunno about that overlap.

Keep in mind these are only SOME of the issues I have with THIS difficulty. I've ignored many structural flaws and lack of patterning alternatives, but that's something you can be able to create on your own given the proper circumstance. Editor space usage seems a bit tight too, so a lot of the combos and stuff are pretty congested and centralized when there's still a lot of room to use. The other difficulties definitely have some moddable things to look out for too but this diff in particular has the most issues imo from the entire set.

I'm not so concerned with the map itself, but moreso as to why BeatofIke thought it was in good reason to nominate and push this set forward when it's clearly not ready yet.
Athrun
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Athrun
Oh my lord...
lit120
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lit120
Ohh boy...
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
before you go on with this, i suggest you to have a read of t/465718

it explains alot in the sense of what we call 'structure' and what your map lacks of.

Right now there are various curved sliders placed without harmony in respect to each other, sure individually they may look nice, but they lack a place as a whole in the mapset. To simply put it, they don't look great together.

As a mapper we should all strive to place our objects so that they fit and interact with each other. Every object should look as if it compliments each other, and the map as a whole. Hence, we call it structure, because it explains each object building upon each other, giving everything a place to belong. A building isn't made by randomly placing beams and material on each other, but rather planned out and placed orderly so that each beam can support each other allowing it to climb the heights.

tldr; just click the god damn link and try to learn something form it xD
Little
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Little
^ worth reading, but has little to do with structure.
Owntrolf
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Topic Starter
Owntrolf
ill probably check over after thursday afternoon or something since I needa do something
Akiyama Mizuki
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Akiyama Mizuki
since the time passed you might have improved, worth reworking stuffs.
Irreversible
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Irreversible 
osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: AS.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 63344
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Title:Absolute Soul
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Artist:Suzuki Konomi
ArtistUnicode:鈴木このみ
Creator:Owntrolf
Version:Irreversible's Extra
Source:アブソリュート・デュオ
Tags:Duo Opening theramdans tv size irreversible
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Rave-up
302 posts
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Rave-up
Rank this or ill cry
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined September 2011
BeatofIke
I don't think any BN is going to push this mapset forward until, huge improvements are made and more effort is put into this mapset (especially Light Insane and Absolute Duo difficulties). Repairing this bubble won't help at all, so there's no point in doing so (my mistake on my part), so I won't do it again until I see some good improvements. I could mod those difficulties endlessly, but in the end you would have to be willing to put more effort towards improving them first, so it is rankable. You're not going to attract BNs if you keep spamming them. Desperation is not good orz.
Owntrolf
546 posts
Joined December 2013
Topic Starter
Owntrolf
Still sadder than usual because of the long wait lmao
BeatofIke
Beatmap Nominator
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BeatofIke
lol sorry about that :P
Kibbleru
osu! Alumni
5,846 posts
Joined August 2013
Kibbleru
What you need to do is drop this set for a while, and move on to something else. then later comeback and remap when u get better.
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
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Irreversible
Hi, can u delete my map once you update it? I gave it someone else to rank , sorry
Shiguma
476 posts
Joined May 2014
Shiguma
Shouldn't Irreversible be removed from the tags since he isn't in the set anymore?
Ashton
2,039 posts
Joined February 2016
Ashton

Shiguma wrote:

Shouldn't Irreversible be removed from the tags since he isn't in the set anymore?
Bursthammy
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Joined May 2015
Bursthammy

Whirl wrote:

Shiguma wrote:

Shouldn't Irreversible be removed from the tags since he isn't in the set anymore?
was quoting that really necessary?
Ashton
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Joined February 2016
Ashton

Tatsuyu wrote:

Shiguma wrote:

Shouldn't Irreversible be removed from the tags since he isn't in the set anymore?
was quoting that really necessary?[/quote]


it means I agree with the suggestion
Ashton
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Joined February 2016
Ashton
Hello, here's the mod you've been waiting for!




Easy

-Overall a nice difficulty but still needs a bit of polishing

-Starting 00:23:211 - here volume seems low, I would suggest making it louder


00:23:850 (2) - this can be hard to read for beginners/novices

01:01:350 (1,2) - make these the same exact shape for a better look

01:06:615 (3) - remove this and extend 01:05:977 (2) - this slider 01:07:254 - here

01:17:786 (3,4) - honestly, if you blanket these then you'll have a better look + blanket

01:27:201 (2) - no sliders this short in easy please


Normal

-Overall solid difficulty


00:05:977 (2) - this overlaps 00:07:094 (4) - this giving it a 'meh' look, it could be better

00:09:488 (5) - stack the beginning of this slider with 00:11:084 (2) - this

00:24:807 (5) - I, personally, disagree with these shapes of sliders

00:27:360 (4) - vocalist is a lot more fast, so I would suggest raising sv on this

00:47:467 (3) - make make this a curve, looks to edgy for a slow part of the song

00:49:701 (3) - make this a more expressive shape, as it is currently it feels too curved

00:52:254 (3) - I would just suggest making this an S shape slider, but idk it might be good the way it is already

01:00:073 (3) - curve more for a better looking blanket

01:12:201 (2,3) - why not fully blanket these?


theramdans (god) Hard

-I can see most of your problems have been solved with previous mods

00:15:552 - your missing a pretty important beat

00:53:690 (7,1) - this stack isn't that necesarry tbh



Light Insane

-I honestly think this diff is a little bit worse than last time, but still nice!

(I think the higher the star rating you make the worse your diffs become, I would have honestly just gotten a GD for absoloute dou and Insane)

-change cs to 3.8

00:00:233 (1,2,3) - I would just keep spacing consistant for a light insane tbh

00:08:690 (4,5,6) - ctrl + shift + d to make a perfect triangle

00:09:647 (2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix all the overlap here, it's pretty easy too see

00:17:147 (5,6,7,8) - this ruins the flow, I would suggest moving 00:17:467 (6,7) - these two circles so they aren't straight

00:23:052 (6,7,8) - I would honestly just stack these

00:25:924 (1,2,3) - same thing as before, this ruins the flow for me imo

00:31:828 (3,4) - ^

00:43:637 (4) - seems a bit too curved

01:03:424 (1,2) - the volume for these seem a little too low

01:17:945 (1,2,3,4) - I personally don't like these stacks, I would just make this into a square because as it is right now it doesn't flow that good



Okay i'll stop here because I need to finish a lot of things



I hope this gets ranked, good luck!
fat pear
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fat pear
ra nk aaboslute OSul hahahah!
ferret irl
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Joined July 2015
ferret irl

microism wrote:

ra nk aaboslute OSul hahahah!
ya i agree
Cerulean Veyron
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Cerulean Veyron
here's my mod u absolute annoying little c-
2kds k thank

[- - Light Insane - -]
  1. 00:17:147 (5,6,7,8) - I think having a higher spacing on these circles would allow for the flow between the two sliders look visually appealing, and it would improve cursor guiding a little bit too. Try the same thing you've did on 00:25:924 (1,2,3) - , 1.1x spacing. Might put a suitable consistency here.
  2. 00:18:264 (1,2,3) - I would suggest spacing these out a little more, about 1.7x spacing as you defaulted on the previous tracks. That might give a bit more density alongside with the music change over this part.
  3. 00:27:679 (4,5) - Optional objective: There's nothing very important and it's quite nazi here, just a minor thing. What a great blanketing, btw. Could've just moved a bit higher up even though trying to not intend a perfect blanket. But I believe x:161|y:90 or somewhere around that grid might get you the best spacing.
  4. 00:31:190 (2,3,4,1) - Probably the same issue as 00:17:147 (5,6,7,8) -
  5. 00:37:892 (1,2,3) - The end of the slider (3) doesn't really fit the tightness of the rhythm around this track, I would probably stick to using 00:36:615 (2,3,4) - in order to follow that tense downbeat on 00:38:530 - .
  6. 00:55:924 (4) - What's this slider end snapped into? Doesn't look like 1/8 snap division.
  7. 01:05:818 (3) - Shouldn't you make this sharp slider differ somehow? It's too steep and linear that would probably make it look very clunky imo.

[- - Insane - -]
  1. 00:14:115 (1,3) - If you're attempting for a back-and-forth flowing or something, then this didn't really worked well. I think this doesn't have much flow and kind of clashes through other notes like circle (2). I think having these two straight sliders make a bit of variation like getting them rotated, flip or curved. It'd give a better feel with the upcoming tracks as you could at least make a better patterning on this part.
  2. 00:24:807 (3,6) - I would think moving the angle outward more so the slider (6)'s head don't overlap the tail very much, but it's not important making the head more visible. At least just a half of it, while keeping the structure the same due to the spacing here.
  3. 00:45:552 (3) - You could've mainstreamed the vocals more just before following the melody on 00:46:350 - as the rhythm composition changes. I literally suggest a usual 1/1 slider and a circle on the downbeat for this part. The note density doesn't increase a lot, so you can adjust it if you don't mind.
  4. 01:03:903 (1,3,5) - 01:06:935 (2,3,4) - 01:17:307 (4,5) - This is pretty much repetitive, both rhythm and structure doesn't really suit much over these tracks. Unlike 01:23:690 (1,2,3) -, it followed the upbeats that landed on red ticks more accurately along with the track. But these three slider patterns have totally different emphasis and transition. I recommend changing every single structure, more like....... remapping.

[- - Absolute Dog- -]
  1. 00:05:100 (4) - This 1/4 circle just appeared out of nowhere, as I assume you haven't even added a circle on a similar part alike 00:10:206 - . So I highly suggest you remove it.
  2. 00:14:914 (4) - I would actually onward the slider tail position towards the circle on 00:15:154 (5) - in order to smoothly flow without an edgy guiding.
  3. 00:23:372 (1,2,3) - The spacing here is pretty low and could actually not be considered an anti-jump or something like that. It's legitimately comparable to the similar parts like 00:25:925 (1,2,3) - or 00:28:478 (2,3,4) - . So I can see there's a patterning inconsistency.
  4. 00:33:105 (1) - The direction change seems really overdone, an enforced movement while streaming this. Well, you could probably space them out or you should map some prep for stream patterns. Like curving the flowing or something rather than straight and linear streams.
  5. 00:35:340 (3,4,5) - 00:36:616 (2,3,4) - 00:39:169 (1,2,3) - 00:40:445 (3,4,5) - 00:41:723 (3,4,5) - I actually don't understand these as why you haven't made the slider velocity change, as how you've been doing on 00:34:063 (1,2,3) - . It's not a bad thing imo, but they don't really support an awkward transition as sampling these five. So It's quite unfitting and breaks a lot of consistency.
  6. 00:49:701 (1) - Optional objective: You could at least polish the slider's curves a little bit more. Somehow similar to this may describe much better.
  7. 00:52:574 (1,2,3,4,1) - I might suggest redoing the placements of these circles, for an improved polygon ofc. It mostly increases up aesthetics and a little bit of structure, so it wouldn't hurt giving a try.
  8. 01:18:264 (2) - A reverse arrow you're attempting to do a symmetry here doesn't make a great impact including the rhythm composition. As there's quite a really intense hit landed on 01:18:584 - which sounds really audible and deserves a click on this tick. If you want to keep the reverse, you could at least try Ctrl + G by selecting 01:18:264 (2,3,4) - for another way changing this rhythm.

Poke me when you see something orange on my forum post.
Mordred
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Mordred
Loved inc
Linada
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Joined November 2014
Linada

Yoshino-- wrote:

Loved inc
no
pls
Azrael_-
Azrael_-
Hello, I can make an extra difficulty for your map?
Weedy
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Joined January 2014
Weedy

Azrael_- wrote:

Hello, I can make an extra difficulty for your map?
for fuks sake look at his spread before commenting lol
Mordred
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Joined October 2015
Mordred

Linada wrote:

Yoshino-- wrote:

Loved inc
no
pls
well yeah about that...
Anxient
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Anxient
The absolute madman
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fuck
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